March2016
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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
March 2016 Meeting
Sands Venetian Hotel, Macau, PRC
Submission
Slide 1
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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802.24 Overview
• Officers
– TAG Chair:
– Secretary & TAG Vice Chair:
Tim Godfrey
Ben Rolfe
• Task Groups
– 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG
– 802.24.2 IoT TG
Tim Godfrey
Chris DiMinico
• 38 Voting Members
• Agenda:
24-16-0007-00-0000
• Meetings for the Week
– Monday PM2
– Tuesday PM2
– Wednesday PM2
• Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members
Submission
Slide 2
March2016
Agenda - 24-16-0007-00-0000
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1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.5
1.6
1.7
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Monday PM2 session
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey
5
4:00 PM
Approval of Agenda
Godfrey
5
4:05 PM
Introduction/meeting objectives
Godfrey
5
4:10 PM
Approve January TAG minutes 24-16-0003-00-0000
Godfrey
5
4:15 PM
Review action items from previous meeting
Godfrey
5
4:20 PM
802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group business
Godfrey
0
4:25 PM
P2030.5 Liaison Report
Heile
10
4:25 PM
New Topic Introduction: White paper on FAN / NAN applications and terminology disambiguation
Godfrey
20
4:35 PM
New Topic: 802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI) and implications on overall network integration of 802 for grid applications
Godfrey
20
4:55 PM
New Topic Introduction: 802.1 Time Sensitive Network (TSN) - applications in utility networks
Godfrey
20
5:15 PM
Recess
Godfrey
0
5:35 PM
TAG Business - Call to Order
Godfrey
0
4:00 PM
Elections for 802.24 TAG chair and vice chair
Godfrey/Rolfe
20
4:20 PM
802.24.2 IoT Task Group business
DiMinico
0
4:20 PM
802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report
Diab
15
4:35 PM
P2413 Liaison Report
Winkel
15
4:50 PM
IIC Liaison Report, Incoming Liaison request from OPC
Diab
20
5:10 PM
Review and plan IoT white paper development
DiMinico
DiMinico
30
0
5:40 PM
Recess
1.8
1.9
1.10
2
2.1
Tuesday PM2 session
2.1
2.2
2.3
2.4
2.5
2.6
2.7
3
3.1
3.2
3.3
3.4
3.5
3.6
3.7
5:40 PM
Wednesday PM2 session
Call to Order - 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group business
Godfrey
0
4:00 PM
Development of Sub-1 GHz White Paper
Godfrey
20
4:20 PM
Finalize Smart Grid Whitepaper Companion Presentation
Godfrey
15
4:40 PM
802.24 TAG Business
Godfrey
0
4:55 PM
IEEE 802 Student Paper Contest Update
Gilb
4:55 PM
Review action items from current meeting
Godfrey
15
5
Adourn (breakout with 802.1 TSN TG for further discussion of TSN and utility networks)
Submission
Slide 3
Godfrey
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5:10 PM
5:15 PM
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings
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All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all
applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
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Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
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Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
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Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches
may be discussed in standards development meetings.
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Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers,
or division of sales markets.
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Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
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Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
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If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:
What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for
more details.
This slide set is available
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Administration
• Attendance take on IMAT
– Reciprocal rights for most WGs
• Web page
– http://www.ieee802.org/24
• Mailing list
– stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org
– 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list)
• Document archive
– http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents
• IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org
– Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the
– following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message
Subscribe stds-802-all
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Submission
Slide 5
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Monday: 802.24 TAG
• Approve January minutes
– 24-16-0003-00-0000
• Action Items:
– None
Submission
Slide 6
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Monday 802.24.1
Submission
Slide 7
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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New Liaisons and Industry Activity
relevant to 802.24.1
• Discussion on 24.1 liaisons and relevant industry activity
– SGIP OpenFMB
• Considered in January – no activity identified
– Smart Grid Coordination Group in Europe
• ETSI group parallel to SGIP
<http://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/Sectors/SustainableEnergy/S
martGrids/Pages/default.aspx>
• Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards
serve, and provide them to the industry.
– That can then define who is an appropriate liaison
• Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and
requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify
the tools we have available, and present the available
toolbox.
Submission
Slide 8
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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P2030.5 Liaison Report
• Update on February Meeting in Santa
Clara
Submission
Slide 9
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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FAN / NAN applications / terminology
• New Topic – call for interest:
• Potential white paper on FAN / NAN
applications and terminology
disambiguation
– 802.15.4g, 802.15.4k, and 802.16, and
802.11ah
– Glossary, framework, and annotations - link
to IEEE 2030 definitions
Submission
Slide 10
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
doc.: IEEE 802.24-16-0008r0
802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI)
• New Topic:
• 802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI) and
implications on overall network integration
of 802 for grid applications
– Incorporation of 802.15.9
– What is needed at layer 2 to enable routing at
layer 3?
– How is 6lowpan applied? E.G. in WiSUN.
• Is there a value to develop a white paper?
Submission
Slide 11
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
doc.: IEEE 802.24-16-0008r0
Time Sensitive Networks
• 802.1 / 802.3 Time Sensitive Network (TSN) - applications in
utility networks
• Deterministic Ethernet – how does it apply to utility industry?
– IEC has some requirements for realtime (in TC57) and also 61850
• Is there a value to develop a white paper?
• Breakout after Wednesday closing: join 802.1 TSN TG for
further discussion and collaboration
• TSN Summary (Michael Johas Teener - Chair, Time Sensitive
Networking Task Group)
– https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6Xurc4m_PVsZ1lzWWoxS0pTNV
E/view?usp=sharing
Submission
Slide 12
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
doc.: IEEE 802.24-16-0008r0
Tuesday: 802.24 TAG
• Election of Officers
• Procedure in 802.24 Operations Manual
document 24-14-0007-00-0000
• Announced Candidates
– Tim Godfrey (Chair)
– Ben Rolfe (Vice Chair)
• Election of Chair
– Vote: / /
• Election of Vice Chair
– Vote: / /
Submission
Slide 13
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Tuesday: 802.24.2
• 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report
– Wael Diab
• P2413 Liaison Report
– Ludwig Winkel
• IIC Liaison Report, any new liaison requests
– Wael Diab
• Review and plan IoT white paper development
– Chris DiMinico
Submission
Slide 14
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Wednesday 802.24.1
Submission
Slide 15
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Development of sub 1 GHz White Paper
• Draft updated: 24-15-0029r2
• Author Assignments:
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Submission
802.15.4g (SUN) Overview
802.11ah (S1G)
802.15.4m (TVWS)
802.11af
802.19.1
802.22
Sub-1GHz Applications
Coexistence
Global regulatory environment
Slide 16
Steve Pope 
Yongho Seok 
Kunal Shah, Ben Rolfe
(TBD – Rich Kennedy?)
Tuncer Baykas
Apurva Mody
Jeritt Kent (open for other contributors)
(TBA)
John Notor?
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Finalization of SG Companion
Presentation (24-14-0035-08)
• Slide 12: 802.1X Security.
– Mick Seaman?
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Slide 13: 802.11 Security (Tim)
Slide 14: 802.15 Tero?
802.16 Security - Tim
802.22 Security – Apurva
Non Mains and LP applications –
• Chris Calvert & Ruben Salazar
Submission
Slide 17
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Student Paper Competition
• Paper Deadline Extended to 15 March
– Any papers at the deadline should have been
forwarded to us by this time.
• Judging Committee Volunteers
– Ben Rolfe
– Jeritt Kent
– Ludwig Winkel
– Ruben Salazar
Submission
Slide 18
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
March2016
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Student Paper Competition
• Judging / Scoring
– Each aspect on a 0-10 scale
– Follow Published judging criteria document
24-16-0004r0
• Decision Timeline
– Final decision by teleconference in April
Submission
Slide 19
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Wednesday 802.24 TAG
Submission
Slide 20
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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802.24 TAG closing
• Any New Business?
• Capture action Items from this meeting
Submission
Slide 21
Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Adjourn
Submission
Slide 22
Tim Godfrey, EPRI