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OmniRAN EC SG
Agenda and Meeting Slides
July 2013, Geneva, CH
2013-07-16
Max Riegel
(OmniRAN SG Chair)
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Meetings
• Tuesday, July 16th,
• Wednesday, July 17th,
– Joint w/ 802.11 ARC
• Wednesday, July 17th,
– Joint w/ 802.21
– w/ 802.15
• Thursday, July 18th,
– Joint w/ 802.16
• Thursday, July 18th,
13:30 – 15:30
08:00 – 10:00
08:00 – 09:00
13:30 – 15:30
13:30 – 14:30
15:00 – 15:30
08:00 – 10:00
08:00 – 09:00
13:30 – 15:30
Meeting Room:
• CCV – Room C
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July 2013 OmniRAN F2F Schedule
Mon
08:00
Tue
EC Opening Session
w/ 802.22
10:00
Wed
Thu
Fri
Joint w/ 802.11 ARC Joint w/ 802.16
(CICG Room 14)
Conclusion on use
cases
EC proposal
Joint w/ 802.21
OmniRAN
Closing Meeting
10:30
IEEE 802
Opening Plenary
12:30
13:30
w/ 802.1
EC Closing Session
OmniRAN
Opening Meeting
w/ 802.19
15:30
w/802.15
w/ 802.3
16:00
w/ 802.24
18:00
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Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings
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All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all
applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent
claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
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Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches
may be discussed in standards development meetings.
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Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers,
or division of sales markets.
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Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
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Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
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If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:
What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for
more details.
This slide set is available
at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt
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Resources – URLs
• Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation
– http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html
• Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines
– http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrustguidelines.pdf
• Link to IEEE Code of Ethics
– http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code
_ethics.html
• Link to IEEE Patent Policy
– http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/patslideset.ppt
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Meeting Etiquette
• IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional
technical organization
• Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly
and professional manner in accordance with
the policies and procedures governed by the
organization.
• Individuals are to address the “technical”
content of the subject under consideration
and refrain from making “personal” comments
to or about the presenter.
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LMSC Operations Manual
4.3 Study groups
4.3.1 Study group operation
Progress of each Study Group shall be presented at the
closing Sponsor meeting of each IEEE 802 LMSC plenary
session by the appropriate WG, TAG, or ECSG Chair. Study
Groups may elect officers other than the Chair, if necessary,
and will follow the general operating procedures for WGs
specified in the IEEE 802 LMSC WG P&P. Because of the
limited time duration of a Study Group, no letter ballots are
permitted.
4.3.2 Voting at study group meetings
Any person attending a Study Group meeting may vote on all
motions (including recommending approval of a PAR). A vote
is carried by 75% of those present and voting “Approve” or
“Disapprove.”
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OmniRAN ECSG
Resources
• Website:
http://www.ieee802.org/OmniRANsg/
• Document Archive on mentor:
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/documents
• Email reflector:
ecsg-802-omniran@listserv.ieee.org
• Email archive:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/OmniRANsg/email/
• Attendance:
Paper list (normative) + IMAT
– IMAT mandatory for participants seeking attendence
credits
– Reciprocal rights for most WGs
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Agenda for July 2013 F2F
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Call Meeting to Order
Attendance recording
Secretary position
Approval of agenda
Approval of minutes
Reports
Review dissemination of OmniRAN SG results into IEEE 802 WGs
Review of communication and dissemination with external
organizations
• Conclusion on OmniRAN use cases
– Gap analysis for the agreed use cases
– Documentation of results
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Potential standardization topics for IEEE 802
Refine scope of OmniRAN EC SG (crisp words)
Reporting slides for EC Closing Session
Summary report for communication inside IEEE 802
AOB
Adjourn
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Business #1
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Call Meeting to Order
– Session called to order by the chair at Tue 13:35
– The chair presented the mandatory guiding slides of IEEE SA.
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Attendance recording
– Chair explained that attendance recording is done by paper sheets with the possibility
to gain reciprocal attendence credits by using registration by IMAT as well.
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Secretary position
– Chair asked for volunteers to fill open secretary position
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No volunteers showed up. The position remains open.
– Juan Carlos Zuniga volunteered for taken minutes of the session.
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Approval of agenda
– Chair brought up the agenda propsal created in the teleconference on June 20 th and
published on the OmniRAN website.
– The chair asked for demand for additional agenda items or changes to the agenda
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No requests were brought up
– The chair went over the meetings of the week and pointed out that a joint meeting with
802.11ARC is planned for the first hour of the Wed AM1 meeting (in CICG room 14)
and with 802.21 in the first hour of the Wed PM1 session.
– A further joint meeting with 802.16 and a presentation to 802.15 are intended but are
not scheduled yet. The chair will keep the study group informed about schedules with
the other working groups.
– The chair asked for objections to acceptance of the proposed agenda
– The agenda was approved without objections.
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Business #2
• Approval of minutes
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0047-00-ecsgmeeting-minutes-for-may-2013-waikoloa-session.docx
• The chair brought up the minutes of the Waikoloa session and asked for
corrections or amendments. No request to change the minutes was raised.
• The chair asked for objections to approve the minutes of the waikoloa session.
• The minutes were approved without objections.
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0049-00-ecsgmeeting-minutes-of-june-20th-conference-call.docx
• The chair brought up the minutes of the June 20 th conference call and asked for
corrections or amendments. Antonio requested to correct the spelling of his
affiliation. The spelling of the affiliation was corrected and the revision of the
minutes was uploaded to Mentor.
• https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0049-01-ecsg-meetingminutes-of-june-20th-conference-call.docx
• No other requests for modifications were made.
• The chair asked for objections to approve the minutes of the June 20 th conference
call.
• The minutes were approved without objections.
• Reports
– The chair brought up the following two slides pointing out the objectives
and the current stage of the work.
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OmniRAN EC SG Objectives
• To perform a gap analysis that shows what pieces of
work that are relevant to 802 (standards and
standards under development) are not covered by
existing external SDOs (IETF, 3GPP,...) and internal,
and socialize that analysis with those SDOs;
• Having performed that gap analysis, define a crisp
scope of the ECSG (target 15 words or less);
• Define what piece(s) of work within that scope (a) fall
legitimately within 802's remit and (b) are achievable
within an 802 activity.
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OmniRAN EC SG
Plan and Timeline
Mar’21
Initial meeting
Apr’11
May’2
Jun’20
Jul’15
Use cases contributions
Draft Use cases document
Call for comments on Use cases document
Use cases document finalization
Classification of functional requirements
Functional requirements within scope of IEEE 802
Gap analysis to existing solutions
Socializing of gap analysis
Potential standardization topics for IEEE 802
Refine scope of EC SG (crisp words)
Conf Call
F2F meeting
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
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Business#3
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Reports, cont.
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The chair opened the slides provided to the EC opening meeting and explained that only a verbal
report was given due to shortage of time.
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0051-01-ecsg-jul2013-ec-opening-report.pptx
Review dissemination of OmniRAN SG results into IEEE 802 WGs
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The chair mentioned that presentations of OmniRAN EC SG findings were presented to 802.1,
802.19, 802.22 and 802.24 based on the following slides.
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The following two slides mostly capture the essential outcomes of the presentations to the 802.1,
802.3, 802.19, 802.22 and 802.24
The study group reviewed the slides and provided comments, in particular to create more concrete
statements for the directions of the EC SG going forward.
Due to the limited presentation time the presentation to 802.3 was done based on the following
slides with the invitation to the 802.3 attendents to come to the OmniRAN EC SG meetings to get a
more comprehensive insight into the findings of the EC SG
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0048-03-0000-omniran-ecsg-results-and-outlook.pptx
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0052-00-ecsg-omniran-liaison-report.pptx
The chair recessed the session at Tue 15:30 reminding that the group meets Wed AM1 first with
802.11ARC before reconveneing in CCV Room C at about 09:00.
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In the joined meeting with 802.11ARC the following slides were presented:
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0048-03-0000-omniran-ecsg-results-andoutlook.pptx (without slides 33-35)
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0055-00-0000-progressing-omniran.pptx
The second presentation raised quite some discussion finally leading to the conclusion that 802.11
ARC would support the extension of OmniRAN EC SG for creation of a draft PAR and 5C.
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Discussions with IEEE 802 WGs
• 802.1 (Mo, 13:30-14:30)
– Not concerned about sticking to PHY and DLL
• IEEE 802 may address higher layer functionality
– Not very concerned about consistency between IETF and IEEE 802
specifications
– Presented gaps are mostly addressed by existing 802.1 specifications
• Functionality may not be easily visible in the specifications
• Some minor details may be open
• => Needs further investigations into IEEE 802.1 specifications
– Further contributions to IEEE 802.1 invited on gaps to better understand
the missing pieces
• 802.19 (Mo, 14:30-15:30)
– 802.19.1 easily fits into OmniRAN Network Reference Model
• 802.19.1 defines further protocol going over R3
• CM located in Core, TV WS DB located in the Services domain
– 802.19.1 defines protocol on top of TCP/IP (primitives without encoding)
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Discussions with IEEE 802 WGs, cont.
• 802.3 (Mo, 15:30-15:40)
– Only OmniRAN Liaison Report presented
– Missing understanding of the ‘Stage 1 - Stage 2 - Stage 3’ approach
– Doubts that specification can be created without setting up a WG
• 802.24 (Mo, 16:45-17:45)
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Understanding of the benefits for Smart Grid TAG
Some missing understanding of an ‘architecture’ specification
Demand for ‘example document’
Possibilities discussed to create simple/initial document within 802.24
with specific focus on SmartGrid
• 802.22 (Tu, 08:30-09:30)
– Creates network side control interfaces (primitives without encoding)
– Much better understanding reached what OmniRAN provides
– Invitation to cooperate with 802.22 when group has been established
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Business #4
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Review of communication and dissemination with external organizations
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The chair reconvenend the meeting in CCV room C at 09:25 and called the meeting to order.
The chair announced that the joint meeting with 802.16 has been scheduled for the first hour of the
Thursday AM1 session, and a presentation to 802.15 has been reserved for Wednesday 15:00.
Following the announcement the study group continued on with the agenda.
No response received yet from 3GPP
Conclusion on OmniRAN use cases
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Gap analysis for the agreed use cases
Documentation of results
Juan Carlos presented the revision of the slides on the SDN use case pointing to the edits, which
went into the revision.
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0044-01-0000-sdn-use-cases-summary.pptx
Discussion came up on some editorial details in the slides finally leading to another revision.
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The group agreed on putting the slides in a new revision of the ec-results-and-outlook slides (ominran-13-004803).
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0044-02-0000-sdn-use-cases-summary.pptx
The meeting was recessed by the chair at 10:05.
-----------------The chair called the meeting to order at Wed 13:40 explaining that the first hour of the PM1 meeting
is reserved for the joint discussion with 802.21 and a presentation slot in 802.15 as reserved for
15:00 requireing the chair to recess the meeting latest 14:55.
The chair opened the joint meeting with 802.21.
The discussion with 802.21 was based and guided by the presentation
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0048-04-0000-omniran-ecsg-results-and-outlook.pptx
as revised according to the discussions in the AM1 meeting.
– Joe brought up in the discussion that the EC SG should address a full standard instead of a
recommended practice to show the importance of the work.
– There was no conclusion whether it would be more appropriate to go for full standard.
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Business #5
– After closing the joint meeting at Wednesday14:55 the chair recessed the meeting to
head for the assigned presentation slot in 802.15 at 15:00
– ------------------– Reconvening the meeting at Thursday, 08:30 the chair called the meeting to order and
opened the joint meeting together with 802.16.
– The discussion was following the presentation of the slides
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0048-04-0000-omniran-ecsgresults-and-outlook.pptx
– After closing the joint meeting with 802.16 at 09:30 the chair continued with the
agenda asking for the presentation of the following contribution:
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https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0054-00-ecsg-omniran-architecture.pptx
– As the submitter was not present for presentation, the chair continued with the
agenda.
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Potential standardization topics for IEEE 802
– The group addressed the wording of the plan to create a PAR and 5C for a
Recommended Practice
– The outcome of the edits were captured of the last slide of a slidedeck, which the chair
prepared as input for the creation of the report to the EC closing meeting.
– The chair recessed the meeting at 10:00.
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Business #6
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Refine scope of OmniRAN EC SG (crisp words)
Reporting slides for EC Closing Session
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Michael Montemurro presented his proposal for the summary report to working groups within IEEE
802.
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0053-00-ecsg-omniran-ec-sg-liaison-report-july2013.pptx
No proposals for corrections or amendments were raised.
The summary report was approved without objections.
AOB
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By discussion and online editing a revision of the jul13-conclusion with the presentation content for
the EC closing meeting was created and uploaded.
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0056-01-ecsg-omniran-ecsg-jul13conclusions.pptx
As a focused slide set without any back-up material is needed for the report a dedicated EC
reporting slideset was created and uploaded.
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0057-00-ecsg-omniran-ec-closing-report.pptx
A motion was brought up approving the report to the EC closing plenary together with requesting
the extension of the OmniRAN EC SG was brought up.
The motion passed by 7 yes/0 no/o abstain
Summary report for communication inside IEEE 802
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Reconvening the meeting the chair called the meeting to order at Thursday 13:40 asking for the
continuation of the discussion on the following two topics by working on the presentation
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0056-00-ecsg-omniran-ecsg-jul13conclusions.pptx
No other business was brought up
Adjourn
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The session of the OmniRAN EC SG was adjurned by the chair at 15:50.
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Motion
• Approve document omniran-13-0057-00ecsg as the report to the EC and request
of extension of OmniRAN EC SG until
November 2013.
– Moved: Juan Carlos Zuniga, Interdigital
– Yonggang Fang, ZTE
– 7/0/0, motion passes
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