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OmniRAN EC SG
Agenda and Meeting Slides
November 2013, Dallas, TX
2013-11-14
Max Riegel
(ECSG Chair)
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Meetings
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Tuesday, Nov 12th,
Wednesday, Nov 13th,
Wednesday, Nov 13th,
Thursday, Nov 14th,
13:30 – 15:30
08:00 – 10:00
13:30 – 15:30
08:00 – 10:00
Meeting Room:
• Cockrell
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Agenda Proposal for Nov 2013 F2F
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Call Meeting to Order
Attendance recording, secretary
Approval of minutes
Reports
Comment resolution and responses on PAR & 5C
comments
Presentation to closing EC meeting
Conditional extension of OmniRAN EC SG
Technical presentations on OmniRAN related matters
AOB
Adjourn
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Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings
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All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all
applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent
claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
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Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches
may be discussed in standards development meetings.
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Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers,
or division of sales markets.
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Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
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Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
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If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:
What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for
more details.
This slide set is available
at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt
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Resources – URLs
• Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation
– http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html
• Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines
– http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrustguidelines.pdf
• Link to IEEE Code of Ethics
– http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code
_ethics.html
• Link to IEEE Patent Policy
– http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/patslideset.ppt
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Meeting Etiquette
• IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional
technical organization
• Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly
and professional manner in accordance with
the policies and procedures governed by the
organization.
• Individuals are to address the “technical”
content of the subject under consideration
and refrain from making “personal” comments
to or about the presenter.
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LMSC Operations Manual
4.3 Study groups
4.3.1 Study group operation
Progress of each Study Group shall be presented at the
closing Sponsor meeting of each IEEE 802 LMSC plenary
session by the appropriate WG, TAG, or ECSG Chair. Study
Groups may elect officers other than the Chair, if necessary,
and will follow the general operating procedures for WGs
specified in the IEEE 802 LMSC WG P&P. Because of the
limited time duration of a Study Group, no letter ballots are
permitted.
4.3.2 Voting at study group meetings
Any person attending a Study Group meeting may vote on all
motions (including recommending approval of a PAR). A vote
is carried by 75% of those present and voting “Approve” or
“Disapprove.”
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OmniRAN ECSG
Resources
• Website:
http://www.ieee802.org/OmniRANsg/
• Document Archive on mentor:
https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/documents
• Email reflector:
ecsg-802-omniran@listserv.ieee.org
• Email archive:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/OmniRANsg/email/
• Attendance:
Paper list (normative) + IMAT
– IMAT mandatory for participants seeking attendence
credits
– Reciprocal rights for most WGs
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Business#1
• Call Meeting to Order
– Meeting was called to order at 13:40
• Attendance recording, secretary
– Nobody volunteered for secretary
– Juan Carlos taking notes
• Approval of agenda
– See next two slides
• Comment resolution will happen in Wed AM1 and PM1 meeting
• Technical presentation on Tue PM1 meeting
• Organizational requirements and liaison activities added to the agenda for
Thu AM1 meeting
– Agenda approved without objections
• Approval of minutes
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0087-00ecsg-meeting-minutes-for-10-october-2013-teleconference.docx
– Minutes of Oct 10th call approved without objections
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OmniRAN EC SG Plan Nov 2013 F2F
• Meetings
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Tuesday, Nov 12th,
Wednesday, Nov 13th,
Wednesday, Nov 13th,
Thursday, Nov 14th,
13:30 – 15:30
08:00 – 10:00
13:30 – 15:30
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• Meeting Room: Cockrell
• Approved Agenda:
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Call Meeting to Order
Attendance recording, secretary
Approval of minutes
Reports
Technical presentations on OmniRAN related matters
Comment resolution and responses on PAR & 5C comments
Organizational set-up requirements
Liaison activity
Presentation to closing EC meeting
Conditional extension of OmniRAN EC SG
AOB
Adjourn
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Nov 2013 OmniRAN F2F Schedule
Mon
08:00
Tue
• EC Opening
Session
Wed
Thu
Comment resolution
Organizational Reqs.
Liaison activities
EC report
AoB
Fri
10:00
10:30
12:30
• EC Closing Session
13:30
Opening
Reports
Techn. presentation
Comment resolution
Approval of revised
PAR proposal
15:30
16:00
18:00
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Business #2
• Reports
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-009000-ecsg-nov2013-opening-report-to-8021.pptx
• To introduce OmniRAN to University Outreach participants chair
went through complete slideset comprising also slides presented
to EC and contained for reporting in this slide deck.
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-008900-ecsg-nov2013-ec-opening-report.pptx
• Short presentation to show content of report
• Following reporting slides were skipped as already presented.
– Paul Congdon gave verbal report about OmniRAN related
activities in ONF
– Juan Carlos gave short verbal report about OmniRAN
related discussions in the previous IETF meeting.
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OmniRAN EC SG
Current Status and Objectives
• OmniRAN EC SG submitted PAR proposal on ‘Recommended
Practice for Network Reference Model and Functional Description of
IEEE 802 Access Network’ on October 10th for consideration in the
November plenary meeting
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-0086-00-ecsgproposed-par-and-5c.docx
– More information on the following slides
• It is proposed to run the project within 802.1 WG
– No conclusion yet, how this would/should work within 802.1 WG
– Technical discussions took place between OmniRAN EC SG and 802.1
(Security TG) in the September interim
• OmniRAN EC SG will review comments on PAR proposal and will
submit final proposal for the EC closing plenary.
• Organizational arrangements of running the project in 802.1 will be
discussed during the week (and in the EC workshop on Saturday)
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OmniRAN EC SG
Timeline
Sep
Apr’11 May’2
Feb’28
Initial meeting
Jun’20
Aug’7
Oct
‘4 ‘17 ‘27‘4‘10
Use cases contributions
Use cases harmonization
Requirements within scope of IEEE 802
Gap analysis to existing solutions
Socializing of gap analysis
Potential standardization topics for IEEE 802
Refine scope of EC SG (crisp words)
Plan for PAR proposal submission until Oct’11
Create draft PAR proposal
Refine wording of draft PAR proposal
Finalize PAR proposal
Conf Call
F2F meeting
Oct’11
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Nov’11
Oct
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Creation of the draft PAR proposal
• The proposed PAR text was mainly drafted in the interim
meeting in York on September 4th and refined by a series of
conference calls from mid September to mid October with
varying participation by a core team of about 9 people.
– The core team represented good interest of big network vendors
and operators and was guided by several experienced IEEE
standardization professionals.
• The PAR proposal was finally approved by the OmniRAN EC
SG in a conference call on October 10th with 6 participants,
after a call for review comments was send out on October 4th
to the OmniRAN EC SG mailing list with about 50 subscribers.
The call for comments led to two final comments, which were
unanimously resolved in the final call with the commenters
being present in the call.
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Business #3
• Technical presentations on OmniRAN related matters
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-006700-0000-omniran-architecture-suggestions.pptx
• Presentation created discussions about relation and scope of
OmniRAN
– Proposal is not comprehensive in providing rationale for the split between
control plane and management plane.
– 3GPP related examples are out of scope of OmniRAN, as OmniRAN
exclusively addresses existing IEEE 802 technologies
• Comment resolution and responses on PAR & 5C
comments starts in Wed AM1 meeting
– Chair will assemble and sort received comments in
spreadsheet.
– Participants are kindly asked to browse spreadsheet and
consider potential solutions before Wed AM1 meeting.
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Business #4
• Comment resolution and responses on
PAR & 5C comments, cont.
– started in Wed AM1 meeting based on
comments sheet
– Concluded with revision of PAR and
explanatory answers to the commenters.
– Final motion, see following slide:
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Motion #1
• The OmniRAN EC SG approves the documents
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-009102-ecsg-nov-2013-collected-comments-on-draft-parproposal.xlsx
– https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/13/omniran-13-008602-ecsg-proposed-par-and-5c.docx
as the outcome and the conclusion of the comment
resolution on the draft PAR proposal submitted to EC
on Oct. 10th subject to editorial clean-up by the chair.
Moved:
Paul Congdon, Tallac
Seconded: Jeffry Handal, LSU
Motion carried by 10/0/2
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Business #5
• Organizational set-up requirements
– See following slides
• Liaison activity
– Communication should go out to
• IETF, ONF, WFA, WBA, WiMAX Forum, ETSI NFV
– No immediate need to inform about approval
by the IEEE 802
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Organizational Considerations
• 802.1 is an excellent home for the project
due to its competence and central role
• The project can’ t be completed by 802.1
alone but requires active contributions
from each of the other 802 WGs
• So far, the topic was driven mainly by
members of the wireless WGs
• Question: How to ensure that the engaged
people are able/willing to continue?
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Organizational set-up
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Group status
– Project assigned to TG within 802.1 named ‘OmniRAN TG’
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Co-location of F2F sessions
– OmniRAN TG SHOULD meet on interims with the wireless WGs
– Depending on topic needs OmniRAN TG MAY decide to meet at interim with the other
802.1 TGs
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Alignment of meeting schedules
– Avoid scheduling OmniRAN at plenary meeting slots of the other WGs
– Should meet during usual meeting hours during the day (not regularly pushed out in
evening meetings)
– Keep F2F meetings focused (usually max 4x 2-hours meetings during a F2F)
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Conference calls
– Should be used whenever feasible to allow participation out of other WGs
– Using WebEX
– Setting up an IEEE 802 wide calendar of electronic meetings to avoid collisions
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Arrangement of agenda to enable ‘joint’ meetings
– Specific text in agenda
– Define precisely the question, which should be discussed and clarified
– Solicitate participation of experts of other WGs
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Organizational set-up
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Mailing list
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Attendance credits
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Voting reserved to the members of 802.1
Access to the documents
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Commenting in the TG/WG ballots open to whole 802
Participation in the votings
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If peer groups are available (like 11ARC), they should be specifically addressed
Participation in ballots
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Liaison person for each of the WGs
Only for communication, no special role in balloting process
Peer groups in the WGs
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Initial voting rights in the TG when moving over to 802.1 to be set up
Attendance credits for teleconferences?
Reciprocal credits for F2F meetings
Communication to the WGs
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Maintain separate mailing list for OmniRAN
Move over current subscribers to the new list
Keep mentor
Submission of documents
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Can happen without interception by the TG chair
Maintain current templates
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Business #6
• Presentation to closing EC meeting
– Chair will put slides together based on material
contained in this slide-deck
• Extension of OmniRAN EC SG
– What happens when PAR gets approved?
– See Motion #2
• AOB
– No other topics brought up
• Adjourn
– Adjourned at 10:33am
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Outcome of OmniRAN EC SG
• Draft PAR proposal (PAR + 5C) submitted to EC on Oct 10th
• 44 comments received until Tue, 5pm CT
• All comments addressed and resolved
– Most leading to modifications in the text of PAR and 5C
• Revised PAR proposal submitted to EC before Wed, 5pm CT
• Presentation to 802.1 to support the idea that 802.1 is running
the project
• Discussions in OmniRAN EC SG how to keep interested
people engaged in the project
– EC SG participants mainly members of the wireless WGs
– Results to be discussed with 802.1 and in the EC workshop
• Motions:
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Continuation of Work
• Two options:
– Extend OmniRAN EC SG until March 2014 to
allow the group to further develop the foundation
of the project until PAR is approved by NesCom.
– Less preferred solution would be to establish
Study Group in IEEE 802.1 to allow OmniRAN to
to further develop the foundation of the project
until PAR is approved by NesCom.
• OmniRAN EC SG prefers to get extension
until March because of established
environment.
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Motion #2
• Extend OmniRAN EC SG until March 2014 to
allow the group to further develop the foundation
of the project until PAR is approved by NesCom.
– Moved: Harry Bims, Bims Labs.
– Seconded: Juan Carlos Zuniga, Interdigital
– Motion carries by 9y/0n/0a.
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