March 2007 AEG meeting Chapter 17 - pensions Main substantive comments Question 1: three systems • Paragraphs 17.91 to 17.95 essentially describe two pension systems: – Universal pension – Employment related • Universal includes « social assistance »? • Better to present three systems: – Social security pension scheme – Other employment related schemes – Social assistance schemes Question 1 • Three systems = Three treatments of pension liabilities: – Social security = not in core accounts but in supplementary table – Other employment related schemes = in core accounts (optional for government) – Social assistance = no recognition at all Question 1 Does the AEG agree that these three categories should be clearly presented in the chapter? Question 2 : supplementary table • AEG (near) consensus on compromise on pension • => supplementary table • Objective = controlled flexibility for better international comparisons • Principles: – (1) all non government pension liabilities in the core accounts – (2) government sponsored: optional in the core accounts, but compulsory in the supplementary accounts. Question 2 • Does the AEG agree that the principles governing the supplementary table should be introduced in a prominent position in the chapter? Question 3: transfer of pension entitlements • Paragraphs 17.145 and 17.146 describe pension transfers between pension funds. • But no description of transfers between different types of pension schemes, in particular when no liability is recorded for one of them (government sponsored) • Frankfurt AEG: « when the obligation to pay pensions passes from one unit to another, this should be recorded as a trabsaction in pension liabilities even if neither unit has previously recorded them » Question 3 • Does the AEG recommend that this principle is included in Chapter 17 or, a reference is made in Chapter 17 to relevant paragraphs of the future Chapter 21? Question 4: sub-social security schemes • Social security scheme = no pension liability • Social security unit can include several schemes, including independent defined contribution scheme, or funded defined benefit scheme. • Frankfurt AEG => separate these schemes and record liability correspondingly Question 4 • Does the AEG agree that the principle of recording pension liabilities for a scheme « where the benefits are related to contributions » even though the scheme may be described as part of a social security unit, is referenced in Chapter 17? Question 5: sponsor and pension • AEG principle: pension funds have zero net worth => any underfunding is attributed to the sponsor (employer) • Paragraph 17.133 describes the possibility of this asset of the pension fund towards its sponsor. • But does not propose a classification of this asset. Question 5 • Also, the paragraph does not introduce the necessary imputation of a property income from the sponsor to the pension fund, based on this asset. • This imputed property income is necessary to ensure that the net saving of the pension is zero (zero net worth). • Property income = amount of increase in (past service) pension liabilities due to passing of one year, minus any property income received by the pension fund on its funds. Questions 5 a and 5 b 5. b: Does the AEG agree that it is essential to record this imputed property income from the sponsor to the pension fund? • 5 a: Does the AEG agree to classify this asset as F6 (insurance, guarantees and pension) rather than in « Other accounts receivable payable »?