Minutes* Faculty Consultative Committee Thursday, February 27, 1996 (Part I) 1:30 - 4:30 Room 300 Morrill Hall Present: Virginia Gray (chair), Carl Adams, Carole Bland, Victor Bloomfield, W. Andrew Collins, Gary Davis, Sara Evans, Russell Hobbie, Michael Korth, Fred Morrison, Harvey Peterson, Michael Steffes, Craig Swan Absent: Dan Feeney, Laura Coffin Koch, Matthew Tirrell Guests: Senior Vice President Marvin Marshak Others: Martha Kvanbeck (University Senate); Maureen Smith (University Relations) [In these minutes: Various items; food service and support services standards; draft statement on budgetary matters (salaries, tuition, computing systems, parking, telephones) from the Finance and Planning committee; (with Senior Vice President Marshak:) matrix management, funding interdisciplinary research, biweekly payroll; legislative, student actions on making teaching evaluations public; (with Vice President Brenner) changes needed in the Academic Misconduct Policy to meet federal requirements] 1. Various Items of Business Professor Gray convened the meeting at 1:00 and said there were several items of business to be dealt with before Senior Vice President Marshak arrived. She began by distributing notes from the FCC retreat with the Executive Council the previous Friday. Most points were about agenda-setting, and implementation will have to await the presence of President Yudof. There was also discussion of whether to have a task force; at the suggestion of Professor Evans, it should perhaps be put on hold until President Yudof has made decisions about structure, and then the Committee can decide if it needs to do anything about the structure of the governance system. Professor Steffes reported on the meeting of President Yudof with the AHC faculty. It appeared, from his meetings with the Committee, that he has made no decision about the provostal structure, but it also appears that he wants the strength to be at the collegiate and departmental levels. That proposition gained applause when made to the AHC faculty. It seems that if there is to be a provostal level, it will be weak; if that is so, then there should not be one at all. Committee members discussed possible changes in structure that might ensue from the change in administration. Professor Gray noted that Dr. Yudof has said publicly he believes the University has too many administrators. * These minutes reflect discussion and debate at a meeting of a committee of the University of Minnesota Senate or Twin Cities Campus Assembly; none of the comments, conclusions, or actions reported in these minutes represent the views of, nor are they binding on, the Senate or Assembly, the Administration, or the Board of Regents. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 2 Professor Gray reported that she had just come from the legislative session to elect the regents; all five candidates had been elected. COMMITTEE MINUTES Professor Hobbie pointed out one item on the list Professor Gray had compiled, a question about the minutes of the Committee. ("The minutes are too long and identify administrators by name. This should be changed.") Professor Hobbie agreed that one administrator had made this point; he disagreed. One problem the Committee has had is credibility with the faculty, and he and others have received a number of comments preferring the more detailed discussions. Professor Morrison said he has heard from a number of people, including deans, that the only way they find out anything is through the minutes; the Committee should say that that was an interesting alternative. The Committee took no action on the question. SUPPORT SERVICES Professor Gray next inquired of Professor Morrison if the administration had consulted with the Finance and Planning Committee about selling the food service operations. He said there are two different ideas going forward. One is privatization, or contracting out, of food service; there was vague mention of it last spring. The other idea is putting all or some of the support services into a private corporation. The administration tried to consult on this issue, in which Peter Robinson was involved; they infer they have consulted on the food service as well. They have not; the Finance and Planning Committee should have it on the agenda. It appears to be moving forward, Professor Gray said; it should be considered. Professor Bloomfield cautioned that the Committee needs to be careful in picking its battles in establishing matters of principle on which it wishes to be consulted; this item is low on the list. There are no obvious academic implications. The implication is that the administration should consult on this kind of thing, which means in a meaningful way, which means taking time. He wondered if this issue does not fall below the bar. Professor Morrison said there should be a comment about it, but it should probably not be pursued at great length. What needs to be asked about a lot of administrative services is whether they could be delivered better with private sector contracts than with an established bureaucracy. In some cases, the answer may be "yes," and that seems to be the decision reached with food services. If it works properly, the University sets the service standards and the contractor must meet them. The faculty should have some say about service standards; the idea of contracting out is not itself a bad one. Professor Gray noted that the questions are whether food will be improved, what the hours of service will be, whether certain facilities are open or closed--issues that have community-building impacts. There have to be places where people can go to eat and sit and talk with people. It may be better; it sounds like it will be different. Professor Adams said that Professor Bloomfield's point is important, but there could be policy issues worthy of consideration. For example, there could be a monopoly, where the University earns money but the "customers" may not be happy or be getting what they need. Or if there are significant revenues earned, how are they treated or who controls them? Professor Bloomfield agreed, and said there are a range of services that might be better if Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 3 contracted out. There must be agreement on policy, and then the managers asked to perform, without using a lot of faculty time and good will with administrators that are needed on other issues. Policy issues and service standards may be the same thing, Professor Morrison said, and faculty need to be involved in them. Finance and Operations may not be the right unit to make the decisions, because they look at the profits, rather than the service delivered. DRAFT STATEMENT FROM FINANCE AND PLANNING Professor Morrison drew the attention of Committee members to a draft statement the Finance and Planning Committee (SCFP) will take up. It is combination of a number of things; they have not been acted on by SCFP, but they are items that will need to be called to the administration's attention if there is to be any impact on the decisions. Four items relate to the budget, and are an outgrowth of the golden grickle exercise: what would be done if there were a shortfall in a hypothetical university? The statements represent positions taken in the past: (1) the faculty salary increase MUST be retained and MUST be the highest priority; (2) tuition increases should be held to the rate of inflation or slightly less (there was also a sentiment that if there will be large faculty salary increases, they should not come in years with large tuition increases); (3) retrenchment should be based on judgmental decisions, not across-the-board, and SCFP should be consulted about them. It will take about $20 million to balance the budget; point (4) was an argument strongly made that there should be no more "administrative process redesign" until certain things happen. One such thing is that there be specific expected outcomes, and outcomes oriented to simplicity and efficiency rather that simply replicating an antiquated system in an electronic format. There is also a statement that there should not be separate personnel systems for the separate provosts; "that way lies madness," Professor Morrison remarked. Committee members made several comments intended to help clarify the intent of the statements: retrenchments AT ALL LEVELS should be judgmental; administrative computing systems that are not functioning must be made to work, if there is to be "administrative process redesign"; computing systems must be usable at all levels; the restriction on tuition increases should be in the aggregate, not for specific units; There was discussion about whether the salary target would be reached; Professor Morrison explained that he understands there will be two pots of money, one for inflationary increases and one to move toward the median of the top 30 research universities. Whether or not the goal will be reached will depend on how much money is set aside for salaries and what other institutions do; the legislature will provide a fixed amount of money, and the University is making a best estimate of what the median will be in two years. Even if the University received all the money it requested, it might not make the goal, Professor Morrison said, but "it would be much, much, much closer." Another item on the SCFP statement concerns graduate assistant tuition; the situation changes faster than statements can be drafted. A proposed surcharge on the fringe benefit rate will be paid from another source, so there will be no surcharge. What needs to be impressed on the administration, Professor Morrison told the Committee, is that there is a need for rationality and an academic orientation Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 4 in the policy. It will be necessary to come to grips with the fact that the University will either (1) discount tuition (which is acceptable, and simply means there is less revenue), or (2) pay out a benefit (which is also acceptable, and simply means costs are higher). It cannot say it will do both without having any economic impact. The academic element needs to be emphasized, not just the financial, he concluded, and there needs to be progress. The other two items on the SCFP statement have to do with the perennial parking rate problem and the long-distance telephone call rates. The latter is quite simple: the University pays more--significantly more--through its carefully bargained and negotiated rate than anyone would pay dialing a call from their telephone at home. There is much going on there that SCFP must become involved in. 2. Discussion with Senior Vice President Marshak Professor Gray now welcomed Professor Marshak to the meeting, who said he had two items he wished to mention. The President will announce a faculty salary proposal next week, Professor Marshak said. He expects that it will be positively received. The Governor is expected to recommend more one-time money for the University in his supplemental budget; it will be on the order of $25-30 million, targeted at certain areas. One such area will be for retention and attraction of quality faculty. It is not clear how one-time money can be used to retain and attract faculty, but perhaps it can flexible enough to be used for set-ups and the like. The University could also try to persuade the legislature to make it recurring. The University continues to have a positive reception at the legislature, which is gratifying. Professor Marshak related that he and Senior Vice President Jackson had had a discussion earlier in the day, following ongoing conversations about the management arrangements of the University. President-elect Yudof has indicated he wishes to review the central management structure, but that is not what he is raising now. Professor Marshak said the question is whether the University has at present, in effect, a matrix management system. There is the traditional disciplinary structure, with provost, college, department, that goes one way. Then, through the Graduate School and other structures, there is a second axis, and the two intersect; it is through the intersections that interdisciplinary activities have traditionally been supported. Some believe this to be a reasonable description of the structure; others do not find it useful. If one assumes it is useful, there has been a trend recently to put resources into the traditional disciplinary structure, and shift them from the Graduate School and other central functions. In discussions with a faculty member who is a former dean and center director, Professor Marshak said, he has begun to wonder if the matrix management system does not work: it creates too many conflicts at the points of intersection, or it is too inefficient, with two different management structures, or both. In the search for efficiency, there should be only one management structure; if there is to be only one, how will interdisciplinary activities be supported? The response of the faculty member was "am I supposed to go around with a tin cup and collect Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 5 money from provosts, deans, and department chairs?" There is a long tradition of doing that at the University, but if that is the way things are to go, it is important to think about ways of facilitating funding. One way might be long-term agreements (2, 3, or 5 years); another way would be to make it important, in management accountability and the review of provosts and deans and departments, to evaluate what they are doing to facilitate interdisciplinary activities. There could be a presumption established that some part of the unit's resources must be devoted to such activities and that they are responsible for ensuring that they occur. Professor Marshak invited comments on these issues. Professor Morrison said that his first reaction is that this is not matrix management, it is only one line (the Graduate School) of matrix management; if it were matrix management, there would be a number of other lines cutting across the provost/college/department columns. The problem has been, in part, that the Graduate School has not done well because it has never provided many resources. The resources have generally flowed through the traditional structure. Professor Morrison then remarked on the possible measure Professor Marshak mentioned (i.e., had colleges spend enough money on interdisciplinary activities). That is exactly the WRONG measure, he said; it is an input measure. What should be reviewed is whether the college produced interdisciplinary results, not what money did the college spend. Those are harder to measure, but if one looks at Compact 2000, that is what should be measured: what came out of it? There are three levels at which the Graduate School operates, Professor Hobbie said. One is in student support services, the second is the funding of interdisciplinary programs (where it is the only source of graduate student financial aid, and possibly a source for secretarial support for interdisciplinary programs), and the third is the big money for the centers. Centers probably ought to be funded by a college, or consortium of colleges, with a multi-year agreement. Is there not a university-level committee that provides seed money for centers, asked Professor Evans? There is a place for such support; she recalled having been in discussions, over many years, about the problems of funding interdisciplinary research. The frontiers of many fields will be at the interfaces among disciplines, but the University's structure often pulls people away from those interfaces. One thing to consider is whether the provostal structure accentuates the problem. The funding that has come from the Graduate School has been seed money, not perpetual financing for interdisciplinary centers, Professor Evans continued. One can be sympathetic to Professor Morrison's point, but the seed money has to come from somewhere, and the pressures on money are so extreme that if there is not a set-aside, either at the central or other level, one can fear that very little will be made available. That will hurt the University in the long run. Professor Bloomfield said Professor Marshak had raised a key question to the future of the University, and Professor Evans identified the most difficult point: how does the University chart its intellectual future? The interdisciplinary areas will, in many cases, BE the intellectual future. The University is not well-positioned to take advantage of them because it is so strapped for cash. What he has not liked about the matrix metaphor, Professor Bloomfield added, is that it implies Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 6 permanence; warp is always warp and woof is always woof. It should be possible for centers that are successful to live, and for departments that are outmoded to die--for woof to be converted into warp. If there is a way to do it without making everyone paranoid and insecure, it would be better to have a much more fluid model of organization, where there is running planning for a 10- or 20-year horizon. Some centers could grow; other units could disappear or be merged. He said he has always been skeptical about the Graduate School, because it has never had the resources it needed. At one Big Ten school, the Dean of the Graduate School is able to be very creative because he has money; here, the Dean has his hands tied behind his back. What the answer is is not clear, but the question is the right one. Professor Adams agreed, and said the Graduate School has been very helpful in his interdisciplinary work. It is possible to be more creative, however. If one asked people in the units, they would probably agree on the importance and significance of interdisciplinary work; the question is how to involve those people, collectively, in finding a way to support that work. One could talk about putting in place systems or activities that everyone could agree to collectively, even if not individually. It may not be necessary to have a totally separate Graduate School that is somehow at odds with interdisciplinary work. The question is what mechanism should be put in place to ensure that it is accomplished. His observation, Professor Marshak responded, is that the University is in a centrifugal situation; especially in the last few months, when there has been an effort to move the resources OUT into the provostries. The problem comes in pulling them together to support interdisciplinary work. Trying to look at it as an observer, Professor Marshak said, he has seen this centrifugal tendency. Given that, how does the University facilitate exchanges without everyone spending enormous amounts of time arranging each activity. Professor Adams replied that the danger, from Professor Marshak's point of view, is that Vice President Brenner may be inclined to accelerate the centrifugal force to the next level, to the deans. He appears to be comfortable with that approach. The University may not mirror the federal government very much, but there is a National Security Council or Economic Policy Council precisely because there are some things one WANTS driven across State, Defense, etc. But these won't just happen; they have to be systematized through mechanisms, and must involve the people in the units. Professor Morrison agreed one needs a National Security Council to coordinate Cabinet agencies, but one does not want the National Security Council to run its own shows; that's Oliver North. The Graduate School plays a very valuable coordinating function, but it sometimes creates obscure and difficult problems by running operations on the side that don't quite mesh with what the colleges and line officers are doing. There must be the staff function of stimulating the academic vice president or president to stimulate the deans to want to do the interdisciplinary work--rather than be constantly fighting with the deans to get 25% of the time of someone to do interdisciplinary work, but without paying them. Identification of line and staff functions more clearly would be helpful; were that to occur, then there are other cross-cutting functions that should receive thought, such as in undergraduate education, in finance and administration, human resources, which are not adequately served at present. Professor Bland commented that George Mason University has made the commitment that the basic building block of the institution is departments. In order to take advantage of interdisciplinary opportunities, one can propose a center; if approved, it has a life span of five years and then Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 7 automatically sunsets unless it can be justified for continuance. There is a separate incentive pool for centers. That has some advantages; it allows the flexibility to accommodate interdisciplinary activities, but eliminates the need to carry a tin cup around to seek funding. Professor Evans said the University has that, in part; it has a built-in sunset, but the small amount of money allows for good start-ups for very few centers. The implication is that centers should run themselves, Professor Bland said, and that may not be desirable; the University should be able to make longer-term commitments if they warrant it. A large part of the Graduate School money--$8.5 million per year--goes into one center, the Supercomputer Center, Professor Marshak pointed out. That has been going on for nearly ten years. The University now finds itself as landlord to a private corporation; it owns the building, has an internal loan for $3.5 million for the building, and finds itself in the real estate business for a private company. This is a center where one can wonder, from a technical basis, if it is going in the direction that is on the technological cutting edge. Computing technology may not be just cycles any more. This is an example of what Professor Evans was talking about: there may be an enormous investment in a center, over a long period of time, but the field may change and the academic and intellectual directions may change-but there is a significant amount of money invested in the center. Professor Gray next raised a topic about which she had received a call: what is the start date for people on B (9-month) appointments who are on the biweekly payroll? Professor Marshak said he was going to look once again at the biweekly payroll issue, although it is not his favorite topic. One thing that has become clear, in his mind, is that the relationship of biweekly payroll to grant encumbering has become more important than what he had originally thought. It is a crucial issue. The University has been able to produce on-line reports for principal investigators, but the reports are not now reliable because the encumbering does not work correctly all the time. That is simply not acceptable; the University cannot have reports with an error rate of even a few percent. He said he is told, for technical reasons that are not clear and that he cannot challenge, that there must be a single payroll system implemented for the encumbering to work. He said he has asked Payroll why the delay has to be 10 days; why cannot it be 5 days? Or some period shorter than 10 days? One of the concerns is about the time-delay; if it could reduced, so would the concern. He said he wants to get a firm answer on that before he would say to the President the University should go ahead with the biweekly payroll. There was also a suggestion that it might be possible to pay people on salaries on a different basis than those who are paid hourly, even though everyone would be paid on the same day. The problem with hourly employees is that it is not known how much they will work until the pay period is over, so the payroll cannot be calculated. Is it possible to pay salaried employees up to the pay day but have a delayed payroll for hourly employees? That is also being looked at. There is no implementation date, yet. Professor Morrison said that Professor Marshak had evaded the question. Under the old semimonthly system, payroll dates started September 16 and ended June 15. Under the new biweekly system, Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 8 the reason last year was proposed for the conversion was because September 16 fell on a Monday, so the first pay period would be a full period of two weeks. As he understands it, from his experience in the Law School, Professor Morrison related, Payroll has taken the position that the starting date for an employee will be the first-beginning-of-a-biweeklyperiod after September 16. In If it is later than September 16, everything will be shifted back. There are 14 days in a payroll period, and Payroll said they could not start paying people on the Monday in the middle of the period; they MUST do it on the Monday that is the BEGINNING of a period, and they did not want to pay anyone on a Monday that fell before the day they would otherwise have started. If the 16th is on a Tuesday, and Monday was the beginning of the payroll period, people do not get their pay started until the 29th. This is after classes start, Professor Morrison agreed. They went around and around with Payroll on this, Professor Morrison said; in the last analysis, they said they were going to do it and that they could not satisfactorily explain why. Professor Marshak said he had evaded the question because he had never heard it before. Where did he hear this, when, and from whom? Professor Morrison said he had been told this in August of last year, when the Law School payroll was pushed back two weeks, because the 16th of August was not on a Monday [the Law School starts and ends about a month earlier than the rest of the Twin Cities campus]; therefore, their pay period would be pushed back. The concern, Professor Gray said, is that there would be a floating start day, so also a floating end date, and grants for the summer could be messed up. Professor Morrison agreed, and said he pursued this issue last year with the payroll task force. There has never been a better explanation than administrative convenience. Professor Marshak said he did not mean to evade the question, and to be honest, he had never heard the question before. He promised to look at the issue again, and also reported that he had heard that President-elect Yudof had agreed biweekly payroll would start July 1; when Professor Marshak inquired of Dr. Yudof about that, he had responded "what's biweekly payroll?" That leads to her next question, Professor Gray said, which she asked last August: why cannot the University have a 12-month pay out for B appointees, starting on July 1--thus eliminating the problem? Professor Marshak said the University could do it. There is an issue with the cost-accounting for grants that would require internal loans, but that could be done. Every other university at which she has been employed has overcome this hurdle, Professor Gray said, so the University should also be able to do so. Professor Marshak said it is possible. Professor Morrison recalled that this question was asked 15 months ago; it was said then it would ease the transition to biweekly payroll. The administrative team said "we will get back to you." Professor Gray added that the finance people said it was an academic affairs policy that prohibits it. Professor Morrison said he understood the provosts took the position there should be no pay before work was performed, and would not permit it. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 9 Professor Marshak repeated that he would again look at the issue. Committee members warned that the issue will "blow up" if it comes. Professor Marshak said it will be his second priority; his first will be to get the most funding possible from the state, his second will be to keep the University calm. Professor Morrison added a footnote on the biweekly payroll issue. He pointed out there are 39 weeks in the academic year, plus or minus. The biweekly payroll people believe this must mean there will be 19 full paychecks and 1 half paycheck. One of the alternatives that was put to them, when the floating start date arose, was the option of starting on the Monday closest to the traditional starting date, September 16. The payroll task force said that could not be; one can END with half a paycheck, but cannot BEGIN with half a paycheck! Professor Morrison affirmed he was TOLD that by the task force! Professor Gray thanked Professor Marshak for joining the Committee. 3. Teaching Evaluations Professor Gray turned next to the issue of teaching evaluations, and asked Professor Swan to report on events at the legislature. Professor Swan recalled that he had sent a message to Committee members on this issue. There are students interested in making student evaluations available to students for registration information. There were students who began talking about this last spring; his understanding is that they approached the administration about it and were told they should talk to SCEP. They talked to SCEP in November. In the meantime, there was also a group of students who began talking with legislators about changing the Data Practices Act, to make student evaluations public. Professor Swan recalled that he and Professors Gray and Koch met with legislators, and he and Professor Gray have talked individually with a number of legislators (as have the students). Part of the message he and Professor Gray delivered was that when the issue was raised with SCEP, Professor Koch established a subcommittee to look into it and develop a report--and that this was the proper way to proceed, handling the matter on campus. They also said it is the faculty's responsibility to tell students that doing an end-run of the campus process does not build trust and the legislature should not reward that sort of behavior. There is a question about whether the information students want is being obtained in the evaluations; there is also a question about how the data are interpreted, given the differences that are documented with regard to student evaluations. He has been told by a psychologist, for example, that there is work that suggests the student's evaluation is formed in the first two and one-half minutes of the first class. These are the sorts of things that can be reviewed by the campus process, not by a change in the law. The students talked to the "data practices guru," who said the data ARE subject to the Data Practices Act, and if the University were to make it public, he would sue. This is interesting, inasmuch as the Carlson School has been making the information available for some time. The threat to sue was predicated on the assumption that the data would have to be made available, rather than voluntarily, as is the case in the Carlson school, Professor Gray commented. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 10 Professor Swan then told the Committee that he understood not all students agreed with the strategy of going to the legislature; there are others who have argued not to. He met with a group who testified before the Senate, primarily from the non-metropolitan campuses, who appeared to be sympathetic to the issues he had raised. The student legislative coalition passed a motion declaring that if there was no progress on campus on this issue by March 15, they would then pursue a legislative strategy. What "progress" means is not clear. He said he did not know when the SCEP subcommittee was expected to report. It was reported that the subcommittee would probably not issue a report before April. Last night he received an email message from a member of the legislature, Professor Swan reported, who said she would introduce the language the students had proposed. It does not make release of the evaluation data optional; it declares the data to be public. Presumably that means it would available to anyone who asked for it. Many Big Ten universities do make this information public, Professor Swan noted. For Wisconsin, much of the information is available on the web. Professor Hobbie reported on a recent faculty meeting with two legislators; one of them inquired how the faculty felt about this issue. She said she would not introduce legislation, but is in a position of responsibility with respect to the Data Practices Act; she reported, however, that other legislators would introduce language. No one in the room objected to the idea; one faculty member said only that evaluations of teaching assistants should be exempted because they are learning how to teach. This legislator's constituents were not telling her to slow down on the issue. Other faculty members have expressed contrary views. One problem is that since the issue has not come out of SCEP, Professor Gray observed, it is uncertain what position will be taken. It would be better to have the issue resolved on campus, where people can talk about it and be brought along. Professor Bland said she knew a considerable amount about the teaching evaluation literature but that she would be reluctant to make recommendations sitting around this table. It would be preferable to await the recommendations of the subcommittee; Professor Gray agreed they should not be hurried. Professor Adams said that requiring the information be made public might have exactly the wrong effect, which is that the University will stop conducting evaluations. Now there is a system working--the Carlson School is a good example--and that is moving in the direction of making the information accessible. This legislation could be counter-productive. This may represent the law of unintended consequences. Professor Swan noted that he had suggested that if President Clinton is successful, the IRS will want to know their grades. The easiest way to accomplish that is to make it available on the web as well. He added that he personally favored what the students are seeking, but believes there are issues that need discussion, rather than doing it by fiat from the Capitol. Professor Gray recalled that she has also argued rhetorically that if these are made available, then administrative reviews and reviews of all other employees should also be made public. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 11 Professor Korth said that making the results public may change the way the evaluations are perceived by students. There could be a problem in ascribing too many purposes to an evaluation; it can change the way they are filled out and the way they are interpreted. The results could be less useful. 4. Academic Misconduct Policy Professor Gray next welcomed Vice President Brenner to the meeting to discuss possible changes in the Academic Misconduct Policy. Dr. Brenner began by apologizing for the short notice of the need for the discussion, and suggested there should be discussion of how to proceed. He reported that he has been under notice from the Office of Research Integrity (ORI), which has responsibility for all cases which arise from funding from the Department of Health and Human Services. ORI reviewed policies from several institutions, including Minnesota, and identified several areas of concern. It is his view they are primarily technical issues, mostly related to notification. Dr. Brenner said he had held off ORI for a considerable period; he told them he could not discuss the issues with the faculty because of the cease and desist order, on advice from the General Counsel. ORI recently informed him they are anxious to obtain a revised policy, and specifically advised him that the University should not initiate any misconduct proceedings under the current policy, because it could be successfully challenged. Unfortunately, there is a case that the University must proceed with, so he believes the policy must be changed. Dr. Brenner told the Committee that some of the changes respond directly to issues raised by ORI; others were changes the University wishes to see made to deal with problems. He noted that the Regents have made it clear there can be NO changes, even administrative changes, without their approval. The policy needs a major reworking, and should be redone so that all the procedures are removed and this process need not recur. The policy should be adopted by the Regents; the procedures should be under the control of the Senate and the administration. Dr. Brenner suggested that the Committee discuss the changes and take the document up next week. The Committee concurred. Professor Morrison commented that even if changes are approved, any investigations that are started would be under the old policy, not the new one. Professor Bloomfield noted that this would be a Regents' policy; does it also have to go before the Faculty Senate? Dr. Brenner pointed out that FCC has the authority to act on behalf of the Faculty Senate between meetings, if required; any action is subject to affirmation at the next Faculty Senate meeting. Professor Adams noted that FCC has acted in this manner in the past, and brought its action to the Senate, so there is precedent. Dr. Brenner then briefly walked the Committee members through the proposed language changes in the policy, and identified which are required by ORI and which are institutional. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 12 Normally this item would go to the Committee on Faculty Affairs, Professor Bloomfield pointed out; he asked if this Committee is comfortable pre-empting the SCFA role. Dr. Brenner explained that he had communicated with Professor Feeney, who intended to report to SCFA on the issue; his intent is not to go around SCFA. What imperatives is he operating under, Professor Bloomfield asked? Dr. Brenner pointed out the language required by ORI, and reported that he had sent a letter to ORI indicating an intent to change the policy, and explaining the process the University was going through (including approval by this Committee). Asked about a deadline, Dr. Brenner said it was today for reporting on what he planned to do; the other is that no new misconduct case can be initiated before the policy is in place, and it should have started last week. Unfortunately, it has the potential to be a high-profile case. Professor Morrison asked if the proposed language is required by ORI; Dr. Brenner said it was not. Professor Morrison said the Committee should see whatever it is ORI requires before the next meeting. Will this again raise the issue, if there is an allegation of misconduct against a faculty member, what the obligation of the University is to assist in defending a faculty member against the charges? It could raise it, Dr. Brenner agreed. Then it should be anticipated, Professor Adams said. It is a separate discussion, Dr. Brenner said, but wanted it known that he believes present University provisions in this respect are seriously inadequate. He and Provost Cerra agree, and will meet with the General Counsel to develop a mechanism to ensure faculty receive good counsel, independent of the General Counsel's office, during the early phase of an investigation. If this comes to the Senate, Professor Morrison said, the Senate will raise the question and ask the Committee why it approved the policy. He said he understands these are independent issues, but they will not be seen that way in any debate. Professor Adams cautioned that Dr. Brenner could not be in the position of saying he had not thought about it; Dr. Brenner agreed, and added that something must also be DONE about it. Action is demanded on this item; it is creating much of the unease about the policy. What he has also heard about, Professor Morrison related, is that there is much protection in the policy for the whistle-blower who turns out to be inaccurate. That is reinforced in the policy. There is little protection for the individual who, it is determined, was falsely accused, and the role and responsibility of the University with respect to such individuals (such as what communication should be made that a false accusation was made). This gets to a balance between the whistle-blower and the accused, but the issue will come up. Another item is that this allows for administrative action before any inquiry has occurred, Professor Bland; she noted language that would permit it. There must be some description when that would happen. That part is right out of the regulations, Dr. Brenner said; if the University does not comply, it will have to seek funding elsewhere. There needs to be examples of when that would be appropriate, Professor Bland said. Professor Steffes said that the tenor of the discussion at this meeting is what it is because the University has not supported faculty, legally or organizationally. He said he would be comfortable letting Dr. Brenner go ahead with this if he--Professor Steffes--did not have to deal with an ORTTA that does not do its job, with a punitive attorney's office, and so on. The whole issue is that Drs. Brenner and Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 13 Marshak have come from the faculty, but are now part of an organization that makes faculty lives more difficult, rather than easier. If it were not for the General Counsel, he would not worry about what the University would do for faculty; with the present incumbent, he knows that the General Counsel's office will do nothing for the faculty. Professor Bloomfield asked about the definition of academic misconduct. Over the past few years, there has been a lot of debate in various places about the proper definition. The debate has especially revolved around terms such as "and other things that don't conform to scientific practice" Dr. Brenner said the language tried to respond to concerns expressed by others; he distributed a handout containing the University of Michigan definition and asked the Committee to think about whether it could be used. He told the Committee that his colleagues at Michigan had no objection to Minnesota using the same terminology. This is an alternative to terms such as "fraudulent." Professor Bloomfield's point, he said, was important. Committee members responded positively to the Michigan iteration of academic misconduct, and encouraged Dr. Brenner to pursue it as a proposed change to the policy. It should not be rushed, Dr. Brenner said; Michigan gave it a lot of thought, but there may be changes the Committee will wish. Professor Hobbie said that if Professor Morrison's point about the applicability of a new policy to investigations is correct, then the time pressure is off. Dr. Brenner said the federal government does not take that view and that Professor Morrison is probably wrong. Professor Morrison said it was his conclusion that when the University is all done, and imposes a penalty under the new policy, they will sue and get it reversed, and the University will have to start over. Dr. Brenner then noted other points of (largely procedural) change in the policy. Professor Bland inquired if the mishandling of money that is used in research would be handled under the academic misconduct policy. Dr. Brenner said he believed not, that it is a criminal problem, and that the institution ought to have a policy on it; Cornell has a very good one. The problem with fiscal issues is that there should be an ability to charge perjury. The court processes for dealing with financial misconduct are well-defined; they can work inside the University as well as outside. The outside community, however, does not know how to deal with academic misconduct issues, and the University would not want to take them to civil authorities. That is why the policy seeks to ensure academic misconduct is handled by the academic community. Spending money for reasons other than what was proposed in a grant would not be academic misconduct, Professor Bland asked? Professor Morrison said he agreed and disagreed with Dr. Brenner. He agreed that if someone took $1000 out of the till, it can dealt with by the county attorney. If the question is whether the $1000 was spent on appropriate research, that may be one on which the University would prefer an internal rather than district court decision. It could fit under provisions of the Michigan language, he agreed. It needs to be clarified where this would be decided, Professor Bland said, because an administrator would probably rather pull it out than have to go through the academic misconduct policy. Dr. Brenner asked the Committee members to call or email him with any suggestions, so he can return to the Committee with proposed language. Faculty Consultative Committee February 27, 1997 (Part I) 14 Professor Gray thanked Dr. Brenner for coming to the meeting. End of Part I. -- Gary Engstrand University of Minnesota