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Ordsall Community Forum
4th September 2007
Ordsall Neighbourhood Building
Present:
Ross Spanner
Syd Cauldwell
Tom McMullen
Jim Doyle
Roy Sharples
Brian Thornley
Pat Robinson
H Richardson
Flo Turner
Danny McNicholas
Mark Gerrard
Jonathan Dale
Cheryl Williams
Gail Skelly
Sean Doyle
Jonathan Drake
Roy Marsh
Anne Marsh
Daniel Hewitt
Chris Edge
Barry Whitmarsh
Ann Marie Fahy
Janet Bolton
Jeanette Coward
Neighbourhood Manager (Chair)
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
Local Resident
PCSO - GMP
PCSO - GMP
New Barracks
SAYO/SPARKY
Ordsall Community Arts
SALIX Homes
LPC Living
Chair Ordsall & Langworthy Community
Committee
SARA
Urban Vision – Planning
Planning Manager, David McLean Homes
Salford City Council – Planning
Smoke Free Home Advisor
Salford PCT
Admin Officer Ordsall & Langworthy (Note taker)
Apologies:
Councillor Peter Dobbs
Charlotte Howarth
Madge Bown
Sylvia Sharples
Minutes from Previous Meeting and Matters Arising
Ordsall Community Development Trust
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Ross to contact Mike Scantlebury for an update on the Ordsall Community
Development Trust.
Action: Ross Spanner
Fly-tipping – Rudman Drive
Ross to make Rudman Drive a new hotspot for Environment Task Group.
The Environment Task Group is aware of Gloucester Street and is already on
the hotspot list.
Action: Ross Spanner
Additional Signage for Ordsall Park
Ross informed the Forum that signage prohibiting off-road vehicles in parks
has been deployed in the City, unfortunately there is an additional cost of
£125 per sign if more are required for Ordsall Park. Ross to see if the cost
can be reduced if large supply is bought for other areas in Salford.
Action: Ross Spanner
Trees on Regent Road
Jonathan Dale has now received feedback from Urban Vision regarding the
trees on Regent Road. The trees on Council owned land are maintained by
the City and there are no tree preservation orders in place. Urban Vision to
send Jonathan a full report.
Ross asked Jonathan to e-mail him with an update report along with the
Urban Vision report so this can be taken to the Environment Task Group.
Action: Jonathan Dale/Ross Spanner
Fly-tipping on former nursery site on Robert Hall Street
PCSO Mark Gerrard reported the fly-tipping on the former nursery site on
Robert Hall Street to the Salford Direct on 9th August 2007, flair no: 810/569.
Unfortunately, they have not been to remove this. Ross also has reported this
site around about the same time. Ross is to raise this with the Salford Direct.
Action: Ross Spanner
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Storm Damage
No further contact has been made with Brian Thornley. Sean Doyle, SALIX
Homes to speak to Brian after the meeting to try and resolve this matter.
Action: Sean Doyle
Update on Ordsall Development Framework
Monmouth Park
The Lowry Homes construction is not near completion, as was suggested in
the previous minutes and it is anticipated that the contractors parking on the
green is still going to be a problem. Barry Whitmarsh stated that there are two
options available to try and resolve this problem:
1.
Extend the wooden stumps around the green.
2.
Permanent fence in January 2008 to be installed as this is when
Monmouth Park will begin to be re-designed.
It was agreed that Barry would look at bringing forward the permanent fencing
around Monmouth Park.
Action: Barry Whitmarsh
PCSO Mark Gerrard has tried to contact traffic PCSOs but they have yet to
respond. Mark to continue to try and make contact with the PCSOs in traffic.
Action: PSCO Mark Gerrard
Ross to investigate parking restrictions and enforcement and update at next
meeting.
Action: Ross Spanner
Draft design plans for Monmouth Park will be ready for the Forum to see at
the next meeting in October.
Hulton Street
Work has commenced on site this week. Property was released for sale to
Ordsall residents 4 weeks ago, 22 homes have so far been sold. The
remaining properties will go on general sale in 2 weeks time.
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There will be some disruption to local residents as the building work is being
done. LPC Living is in discussion with Salford City Council and Urban Vision
Traffic Officers to determine if it is feasible to re-open the Hulton Street
junction onto Trafford Road. This would have the benefit of providing a
remote access and egress point for all construction traffic, however there are
some major points that are being worked through in terms of existing services,
street lighting and the physical requirements of such a junction bearing in
mind the present volume of traffic on Trafford Road.
St Ignatius Consultation
Consultation has been completed around the New Barracks and surrounding
area regarding the retaining of the St Ignatius Church with new developments
on the croft next to the church. Jonathan Drake showed the Forum the two
proposed options. LPC Living received 46 responses from the consultation
process. These draft options are in keeping with the possibility that the New
Barracks TA is granted conservation status. The two development options
are available for inspection at LPC Living Marketing Suite, West Park Street if
anyone would like to see them.
New Barracks support LPC Living for being sympathetic in keeping St Ignatius
church but have issues regarding the road and the croft which New Barracks
would like for an imaginative play area. Barry Whitmarsh stated that the
imaginative play area might not be possible due to the proximity to residential
properties.
It is hoped the completed plans will be ready for approval in October.
Problems with contractors on Radclyffe Mews Site
Pat Robinson complained that contractors on the LPC Living development at
Radclyffe Mews are parking outside residents’ houses on Lawler Avenue and
contractors are also asking residents to move their cars for the large trucks to
gain access to the site.
Jonathan Drake to contact Andy Roberts, LPC Living and the site manager to
arrange a meeting within the next two weeks to meet Pat to try and resolve
these problems.
Action: Jonathan Drake
Emergency Road access to Phase 1 of David McLean Homes site
Tom McMullen would like to point out that the road access for emergency
services is being used as a short cut by taxis and locals. Chris Edge,
Planning Manager of David McLean Homes stressed this emergency access
road is not for public use. Chris to look at measures to ensure that the road
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has no public access to the Phase 1 site. Chris is also to speak to the site
manager.
Action: Chris Edge, David McLean Homes
Witness Statements/Reporting of Anti-Social Behaviour
Jonathan Dale informed the Forum that there has been some progress in the
reporting of anti-social behaviour. The Local Partnership Delivery Group
which is responsible for local crime issues is to meet next week to discuss
this.
Housing Issues
Tom McMullen explained how residents find regular Housing Officers visits
beneficial and they help to reduce anti-social behaviour. Sean Doyle, SALIX
Homes explained Housing Officers do weekly site visits but tend not to be
approached by any residents.
Residents are concerned about the asb on Gloucester Street. PCSOs are
aware of the problems in Gloucester Street, it is also a hotspot area for flytipping at the Environment Task Group.
Ross asked if the South Ordsall TA could be revived. Tom explained this
group lapsed due to the lack of faith from tenants regarding the Council and
their complaints not taken seriously. Ross asked Tom if there could be a
possibility of the South Ordsall TA being revived as the TA could deal with
their issues together when tacking local officers. Sean Doyle informed Tom
that SALIX Homes would support/help the TA if they require it. Tom to discuss
this with South Ordsall residents and update at next meeting.
Action: Tom McMullen
West Craven Street
The empty caretaker’s house has now been boarded up. However, young
people are breaking into the school. Demolition is to be arranged as soon as
possible. St Clement’s School will take longer to demolish due to the
asbestos issues and not being owned by the Council. Ross encouraged
residents to continue to call the police to report young people breaking into
empty schools.
Action: ALL
Friends of Ordsall Park
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The first meeting of Friends of Ordsall Park is to take place on 13th September
2007, 6pm at Ordsall Community Café. This meeting will be a chance for
people to get together and discuss park issues and forthcoming projects
taking place in the park and see how they can be involved in projects and the
running of the park. This group can also access funding if residents attend.
Charlotte Howarth to update at next meeting.
Jim Doyle asked Jeanette to see if residents of Nine Acre Court TA have been
invited to the Friends of Ordsall Park meeting.
Action: Jeanette Coward
Secret Garden
Ross has not had any response regarding funding for this project. Funding is
available from URC to fund individuals or groups for unusual community
projects, up to £2,000. Anyone interested please contact Ross.
Action: ALL
TV Reception in South Ordsall – Chris Edge, Planning Manager, David
McLean Homes
Chris Edge explained he has been in post for 8 weeks. David McLean Homes
have carried out a TV reception report on Phases 2 & 3 of their planned
developments; this report does not include Phase 1. The outcome of the
report shows that the TV reception would be poor and David McLean Homes
have come up with the best solution of installing a digital box or satellite dish
free of charge to the homes affected. Those affected have been written to
and invited to call the office to discuss this option. Some residents already
have this facility and asked for an extra box in another room. All requests are
dealt on an individual basis. All residents who are affected by the poor TV
reception have to have their digital boxes or dishes installed before the first
new residents move into Phases 2 & 3.
Daniel Hewitt, Planning explained that the Council should now avoid TV
reception problems in the future by insisting that all new contractors, when
applying for planning permission, will now have a clause written into their
planning consent regarding TV reception.
Jim Doyle has contacted OFCOM and spoken to D McCartney. OFCOM are
reluctant to install any new transmitters due to the change over to digital
transmission in 2009. Jim has copies of correspondence from Urban Vision
and OFCOM which he is unhappy about. Daniel Hewitt to look at this
correspondence after the meeting to see what can be resolved.
Action: Jim Doyle/Daniel Hewitt
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Barry Whitmarsh informed the Forum that there are two TV transmission
stations in the Manchester area: Winter Hill and Hulme. LPC Living are using
the Hulme TV transmission station for their developments.
Future of Community Forum
Ross asked the Forum to take a couple of minutes to fill in the questionnaire
on how we can improve the Forum and what items people would like to see
on the agenda with any ideas for the Forum etc. Suggestions are:
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More local residents involved in the Community Forum. Ross
suggested producing a ‘marketing strategy’.
*
Local Councillors need to attend the Forum. Ross to pass on
resident’s concerns.
*
Resident’s section on the agenda.
*
Tenant Participation Officer to promote the Forum.
*
‘Armchair attendee’ – usually someone who cannot attend and
they receive all notes, agenda etc and they send items in for the
agenda. Look at a way of promoting this.
*
People are put off attending a formal meeting and it was
suggested that a pre-meeting half and hour before the Forum
meeting starts for an informal chat and coffee.
*
Different venues for meetings.
Any Other Business
New Equipped Play Area
Barry Whitmarsh informed the Forum of the two options for the new equipped
play area in Ordsall i.e. LPC Living Marketing Suite, West Park Street and the
grounds of Ordsall Neighbourhood Building. LPC Living Marketing Suite is a
poor option due to the location, too near resident’s properties and the road
junction. The proposed location for the new equipped play area is Ordsall
Neighbourhood Building and the necessary consultation will take place with
relevant sources such as Scallywags, Children’s Centre as well as residents
probably in October 2007.
The Bricklayer’s Arms
Jim Doyle asked Barry Whitmarsh if he could quash any rumours that the
Bricklayer’s Arms was being demolished as apparently a contractor from
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Bellway has been showing an interest in the site. Barry stated that he was
unaware of any plans to demolish of the Bricklayer’s Arms or that Bellway are
interested in the site. Barry to find out and update at the next meeting.
Action: Barry Whitmarsh
Update on the Lottery Bid for Irwell City Park
Tom McMullen explained that in October a final presentation will be given in
London and 23 projects will be reduced to 8.
A film crew from the lottery was in the area 2 weeks ago to record local
residents views on the proposed Irwell City Park and residents informed the
film crew that they are very committed to the project. Tom asked for the
continued support from the Forum and local residents to show their support
to this project.
Fireworks
Fireworks have already started to be set off in the Ordsall area. Ross stated
that there is a 3 week window in which retailers can sell fireworks legally.
Ross encouraged residents to continue to call the police on 872 -5050 or ring
Ross on 603-4090 when fireworks are being let off or if they know of any
resident selling fireworks from their property or vehicles. If someone is found
selling or storing fireworks and they are residents of SALIX Homes it could be
possible for SALIX Homes to write to the resident informing them of breaching
their tenancy agreement.
Action: ALL
Eco Week
Gail Skelly informed the Forum that Eco week starts the week beginning 24 th
September 2007. Eco week is aimed at re-cycling in Ordsall with workshops
and volunteer clean ups in the area. Key dates are:
29th September 2007 – Clean up of Ordsall Park
22nd October 2007 – Ordsall Festival
30th September 2007 – Salford Lads Club Bike Tour
Fit City Ordsall
Roy Sharples complained of the lack of gym equipment in Fit City Ordsall as
people in the area are having to travel elsewhere for this facility. Barry
Whitmarsh informed the Forum that funding has been identified from Section
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106 from David McLean Homes to refurbish the Fit City Ordsall gym.
Paperwork is currently with solicitors and once paperwork is completed
refurbishment can be planned.
Community Committee
Ross encouraged residents to attend the Community Committee where local
decisions are made and residents have direct contact with Officers and local
Councillors. The next Ordsall & Langworthy Community Committee is 6 th
November 2007. For further information please contact Ross on 0161 603
4090.
Action: ALL
Date, Time & Venue of Next Meeting
9th October 2007, 2pm at Ordsall Neighbourhood Building, 2 Robert Hall
Street.
Please note the start time of the meeting.
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