ORDSALL AND LANGWORTHY COMMUNITY COMMITTEE
Hawkshaw Court
Howard Street
Salford
5th October, 2004
Meeting commenced: 7.00 p.m.
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ended: 8.55 p.m.
PRESENT:
Roy Marsh
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in the Chair
Councillors Clague, Dobbs, Salmon, Slater and Warmisham
Jim Doyle
N.E.O.T.A.
Anne Marsh
S.A.R.A.
Alan Cruddos
S.C.C.A.G.
Lorraine Thomas
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New Barracks T.M.C.
Elaine Sands
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Jonathan Dale
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Eve Sandler
representing Hazel Blears, M.P.
Mike Scantlebury
Resident
Emily Dale
Ordsall Community Café
Janet McManus
Home-Start Salford
Marie Taylor
Salford PCT
Rachel Burkitt
Partners in Change
Jamie Shepherd
Salford Community Transport
Anver Zee
Salford Community Network
Simon Ashdown
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LPC
David Clifton
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Gillian Kenwrick
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OFFICERS IN ATTENDANCE:
Ross Spanner
Tony Walsh
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Neighbourhood Manager
SRB 5 Team
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Barry Whitmarsh
Dave Norbury
Dave Jolley
Simon Plowman
Daniel Mulvihill
Claire Edwards
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Development Services Directorate
Youth Service
Corporate Services Directorate
ACTION
29.
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Ken Derbyshire, Ilona Snow-Miller, Audrey Stevenson, Jo Sugden and Malcolm Sykes.
30.
ACTION SHEET
The Action Sheet arising from the meeting held on 3rd August, 2004, was agreed as a correct record.
31.
MATTERS ARISING
(a)
16 – Pattern of Community Committee Meetings
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(b)
Members of the Community Committee were invited to contact the Neighbourhood Manager with
suggestions as to how the pattern of meetings could be revised in order to avoid a meeting being
held during Council Recess in 2005 (and in future years), and it was agreed that a decision would
be made at a later date.
18(a) – Appointment of Budget Sub-Group
The Neighbourhood Manager indicated that further representation was required from the Ordsall
ward.
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Any community representatives from the Ordsall area interested in becoming a member of the
Budget Sub-Group contact the Neighbourhood Manager.
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(c)
18(c) – Langworthy Update
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(d)
It was reported that the item – ‘SRB 5 Progress Report’ was to be included on the agenda for the
next meeting.
Tony Walsh/
Ilona Snow-Miller/
Claire Edwards
18(d)(ii) – Pavements
It was noted that the appropriate department within the Development Services Directorate had been
made aware of the Committee’s concerns regarding instances where small areas of damaged paving
stones had been replaced with tarmac which, it was felt, had adversely affected the appearance of
some pavements in the area.
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(e)
A response to be provided at the next meeting.
Barry Whitmarsh
18(d)(iii) – Trees
It was noted that an officer had visited the South Clarendon estate regarding the problems that
residents were experiencing due to trees which were located close to their properties having grown
too big, and the matter was being considered by the Environmental Services Directorate.
(f)
19 – Budget Sub-Group
It was reported that (a) action was being taken to ensure that applications were encouraged from a
wide variety of community groups, particularly those involving elderly people, and (b) the extra
resources that were available to the Committee through the Devolved Budget were to be used more
strategically in order to reflect the priorities identified within the Community Action Plan.
(g)
24 – Can the Community Committee be run better?
Copies of the Evaluation Sheets that had been completed following the last meeting were circulated.
It was noted that (a) the comments received had generally been favourable, and (b) work was ongoing in relation to improving meetings of the Community Committee in the future.
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32.
SALFORD LOCAL LINK
Jamie Shepherd provided information with regard to (a) Salford Local Link (transport for local
residents), (b) Community Transport (group hire), (c) a furniture recycling scheme and (d) a low cost
removal service.
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33.
The telephone number to book Local Link - 08456 055505 – was noted.
NEW ANTI SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR POLICIES
Submitted copy of presentation – ‘Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003 – Housing Powers.’
Reference was made to the above document which Committee Members felt was, in the absence of
an accompanying presentation, difficult to understand due to the amount of jargon that it contained.
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34.
It was agreed that Marilyn Thornley be invited to give the above presentation at the next meeting.
Neighbourhood
Manager
BUILE HILL PARK – FORMER MINING MUSEUM - HOTEL PROPOSALS
Information was provided in relation to the proposed redevelopment of the former mining museum into
a hotel.
Concerns were expressed with regard to the following:– whether the sensory garden would be moved to another site in the park,
– the possibility that the proposed development would spoil the appearance of the building,
– the impact that the proposed development would have on the accessibility of the park to the
people of Salford,
– the increase in the amount of traffic travelling through the park that would be caused by the
proposed development, and the implications that this would have on the safety of children
using the park.
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It was reported that (a) the request for the sensory garden to be re-sited had already been taken on
board by the Director of Environmental Services, (b) the planning process would ensure that the
redevelopment of the former museum was in keeping with the existing building, (c) it had not been
possible for the City Council to bring the former museum back into use as a public building, (d) it was
proposed that attempts would be made to limit the number of vehicles entering the park, and (e) the
development of a positive use for the former museum was required in order for a lottery bid to be
considered.
It was reported that the planning application (Ref. 04/48982/COU), together with the listed building
application (Ref. 04/48981/LBC) could be accessed via the City Council website at www.salford.gov.uk.
35.
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Any letters of objection or support be sent to the Director of Development Services, Development
Control Section, Salford City Council, Salford Civic Centre, Chorley Road, Swinton, M27 5BW by
7th December, 2004.
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It was noted that none of the Elected Members in attendance at the meeting made any comment
on the proposed development.
SALFORD COMMUNITY RADIO
A report was submitted updating Committee Members on the activities of Salford Community Radio.
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The Committee endorsed the proposal that Salford Community Radio continue to provide training
and volunteer opportunities for Salford residents.
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The Committee endorsed the proposal that Salford Community Radio bid for a permanent radio
licence for Salford.
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Anybody interested in becoming involved contact Paul Miller on telephone number 0161212 4977.
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36.
ORDSALL DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK
Submitted a report of the Area Co-ordinator which (a) informed the Committee of the conclusions of
BPTW’s work, (b) set out the next steps, and (c) sought endorsement of the development framework
as the basis for further work.
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37.
The recommendation that the Committee receive the consultants’ report and endorse the
development framework as the basis for further work on the regeneration of Ordsall was
supported.
NEIGHBOURHOOD MANAGEMENT UPDATE
The Neighbourhood Manager provided an update regarding Neighbourhood Management and
reported that a Health Action Task Group had recently been formed.
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38.
Any community representatives wishing to be involved in the Health Action Task Group,
particularly from the Ordsall area, inform the Neighbourhood Manager.
BUDGET SUB-GROUP – MEETING HELD ON 24TH SEPTEMBER, 2004
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The recommendations arising from the above meeting of the Budget Sub-Group in respect of (a)
Fitzwarren Court Tenants’ Association, (b) Saint Luke with All Saints Parish Hall, (c) Community
Services (£206.25), and (d) Barracks Dream Scheme, were endorsed.
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With regard to the application from the Older People’s Development Board, it was agreed that (i)
further information be obtained, (ii) the application be resubmitted to the next meeting of the
Budget Sub-Group for consideration, and (iii) the recommendation of the Budget Sub-Group be
submitted to the next meeting of the Community Committee for approval.
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Neighbourhood
Manager
With regard to the application from Salford Community Leisure, it was noted that information
regarding the full co-ordinated programme was awaited from PAYP/SPARKY.
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39.
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The Financial Position Statements in respect of (a) the Devolved Budget, and (b) the Community
Use of Schools Budget, were noted.
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It was agreed that a request be submitted to the Community Services Section for the information
regarding the Community Use of Schools Budget to be presented more clearly.
Neighbourhood
Manager
TRAINING FOR COMMUNITY COMMITTEES
Information was circulated regarding a series of workshops for Community Committee members, or
for anybody wishing to become more active in the community.
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40.
BUDGET CONSULTATION
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41.
Anybody interested in attending any of the workshops contact Chris Wood on telephone number
0161 787 7795.
This item to be included on the agenda for the next meeting of the Community Committee.
Claire Edwards
INFORMATION EXCHANGE
 Workshops regarding ‘Lighting the Legend’ - Saturday afternoons at Ordsall Community Arts from
1.00 p.m. until 3.00 p.m. The event will take place on 4th November, 2004 at Ordsall Hall and
Ordsall Park.
 Ordsall Community Café – annual fundraising walk to take place on 28th November, 2004,
commencing at 2.00 p.m. from the café. (Interviews to be held on 28th October, 2004 regarding
the post of Café Manager).
 Seedley and Langworthy In Bloom – winner of the national Community Award, the regional
Community Effort Award and the regional Urban Regeneration Award, and runner up in the
national Urban Regeneration category. Thanks to the Community Committee for their support and
congratulations to all involved.
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42.
ITEM FOR INFORMATION
 Report regarding Church of England parishes in Ordsall – noted.
43.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
Tuesday 7th December, 2004.
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