Bob Knudsen/Sonya Korabelnikova
Weminuche Wilderness Backpack
SUMMARY OF TRIP INFORMATION
Weminuche Wilderness Backpack
Leader Bob Knudsen
Co-leader Sonya Korabelnikova
Colorado Rockies
Saturday 17 Aug - Sunday 25 Aug,
Total # of days 9
2013
Backpacking
Bicycling-Mountain
Bicycling-Road
Title of trip
Leadership
Location(s)
Dates
Type of trip
check all that apply
Camping
Cultural
Family
Hiking
Paddling-Canoeing
Paddling-Sea-Kayaking
Skiing-CrossCountry (Nordic)
Walks
Number of participants
(excluding leaders)
Advertised cost
Airfare range if not included
When should the trip notice be
published in AMC Outdoors?
Do you wish to have your trip
listed online before it is
published in AMC Outdoors?
Smaller trips and leader
subsidization
Minimum 10
Skiing-Downhill
(Alpine)
Other – please describe
Snorkeling
Maximum 10
$ 972
Does it include airfare? Yes
No
$ 550-900
First Appearance: Month Nov
Year 2012
Last Appearance: Month May
Year 2013
Note: AMC Outdoors is only published in Jan., March, May, July, Sept., Nov.
Yes
No If yes, please list the approximate month and year when it should
be posted on line. Nov 12
Is this proposal for a small group trip – i.e., less than 14 participants and 2
leaders or 7 participants and 1 leader? Yes
No
If yes, why is a small group proposed? Wilderness area regulations limit group size
for backcountry camping. Although this area limits groups to 15, backpacks simply
don't work for large groups.
If a participant fee increase of more than 15% is proposed, please explain
why? This kind of trip-Backpack- is a lot of work for the leaders, and there are several
good reasons (including LNT in Wilderness areas) why the group size should be
limited.
LEADER AND CO-LEADER INFORMATION
Leader name
Leader address
Leader email
Leader phone
Wilderness first aid training
CPR training
Prior leading experience
Robert Knudsen
12-B Lawrence Street, Wburn, MA 01801
rknudsen@rcn.com
Home 781-491-0698
Work 978-657-1078
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: WFA-5/2014, AWFA-5/2013
CPR
BLS
Expiration: 5/9/12
If this is your first Adventure Travel trip as a Leader you must be present at the AMCATC meeting at which the trip proposal is considered.
Please list the last three longer (5+ day) trips you have led for the AMC including

To lead an Adventure Travel trip you must have current CPR and WFA certifications at the time of your trip (or AWFA
for all backcountry trips). If you do not have the required level of certification at the time you submit your proposal or it
will expire before the date of your trip, you will need to make arrangements to recertify in a timely manner and you
should describe your plans to do so in a note.
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Weminuche Wilderness Backpack
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
Co-leader name
Co-leader address
Co-leader email
Co-leader phone
Wilderness first aid training*
CPR training*
Prior leading experience
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
Scouting
Have either of you led this trip
before or traveled to this area?
Languages
Does either the co-leader or
leader speak the local language?
Couples
Do the leader and co-leader
have a significant personal
relationship?
Private trips
Do either of you lead trips that
are private - not sponsored by
the AMC?
destination, type of trip, dates and number of participants. Feel free to list additional
trips you have led, particularly if they demonstrate experience related to the trip you
are proposing.
Leader, Trip 1126, Canadian Rockies BP, Mt Assiniboine & Banff 8/7-8/15/2011 with
5 participants. This trip included 5 nights 6 days backpacking plus a dayhike at the
start of the trip
Co-Leader, Trip 1020, Lake Louise and The Rockwall, Canadian Rockies backpacking
trip 8/7-8/15/2010 with 8 participants. This trip was a backpack of 5 days with day
hikes on each end of the trip.
5 Day Backpack, 7/21-26/2009, AT in Maine, Rt 4-27
Sonya Korabelnikova
12 Bryon Road, # 6, Chestnut Hill, MA 02467
s_korabel@yahoo.com
Home 434-806-9967
Work
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: 5/2013
CPR
BLS
Expiration: 04/15/2013
If you are a new co-leader you must submit an application to be an Adventure Travel
leader or co-leader prior to submitting this application. Also, it is strongly
recommended that you be present at the AMC-ATC meeting at which the trip proposal
is considered.
Please list the last three longer (5+ day) trips you have led for the AMC including
destination, type of trip, dates and number of participants. Please indicate if you were
the leader or co-leader.
Sedona, AZ 10/22/12-10/29/12, Hiking around Sedona
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below:
Co-leader: Yes
No
Leader: Yes
No
Not applicable:
Yes
No
If yes, please list who has agreed to be your back-up in case one or
both of you need to drop out. This is required for approval!
Yes
No
If yes, please note that you cannot advertise AMC and private
trips together unless there is a clear distinction between the two in any materials
you send out.
LOGISTICAL DETAILS OF TRIP
Summary
Please provide a description
of the trip and the activities
planned. If available please
include or attach an itinerary.
Accommodations
Form Revised March 2012
Saturday - Arrive Durango, CO. Shop for and repackage trip food.
Sunday - Dayhike for acclimatization and additional travel contingency day
Monday - Take Train to Elk Park, begin BP
Tuesday-Thursday Backpack in Weminuche Wilderness
Friday - BP to Needle Creek Stop and board train back to Durango
Saturday - Contingency day or post BP dayhike.
Sunday - Travel Home
Sat, Sun Night - Hostel, Mon-Fri - Camping, Fri, Sat Hostel
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Please describe your plans for
accommodation(s)
Meals
Please describe your plans for
providing meals
Local Transportation
Please describe your plans for
local transportation
Permits or permissions
Does the trip require special
permits or permissions?
(required on many U.S.
federal lands and national
parks)
Bob Knudsen/Sonya Korabelnikova
The trip will provide all backpacking breakfasts, lunches, and suppers, plus lunch food
for a day hike and 2 only breakfasts at hostels. Participants will pay for dinners off the
trail, and for snack supplements.
Shuttle bus or Taxi from Airport to Town and Return. City Transit within Town.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will need to do to obtain them:
Recreation Event Special Permit Required. To begin the process, you are required to
contact the Forest Service office in the area where you wish to have your activity before
you have worked out the details. This contact will determine whether your activity meets
the following pre-application screening requirements applicable to all special uses:
1.
The proposed use is consistent with federal, state, and local laws, regulations,
orders, and policies that apply to national forests and grasslands;
2.
The proposed use is consistent or can be made consistent with the Forest Plan
that established standards and guidelines for management of the land where the activity
will take place;
3.
The proposed use will not create a serious and substantial risk to public health
or safety;
4.
The proposed use will not create an exclusive or perpetual right of use or
occupancy;
5.
The proposed use will not unreasonably conflict or interfere with administrative
use by the Forest Service, other authorized existing uses, or uses of adjacent non-NFS
lands;
6.
The proponent must not owe any fees to the Forest Service from a prior or
existing special-use authorization;
7.
The proposed use does not involve gambling or providing of sexually-oriented
commercial services, even if permitted under state law;
8.
The proposed use does not involve military or paramilitary training or exercises,
unless such training is federally funded;
9.
The proposed use does not involve disposal of solid waste or disposal of
radioactive or other hazardous substances.
If you meet the initial screening requirements, the Forest Service administrator will
provide guidance on what information will be required to complete your application. If
your proposed event does not meet the screening requirements you will be notified that
the proposal, as submitted, is denied.
A proposal that passes the initial screening proceeds to second level screening. Your
proposal will be accepted as an application if it meets all of the following:
1.
The proposed use would be consistent or compatible with the purposes for
which the lands are managed; and
2.
The proposed use would be in the public interest; and
3.
The proponent is qualified; and
4.
The proponent can demonstrate technical or financial capability to undertake the
use and fully comply with the terms and conditions of the permit; and
5.
There is someone authorized by the proponent to sign a permit or there is
someone willing to accept the responsibility of the terms and conditions of the permit.
Upon satisfactory passing of this screen the Forest Service will process your request.
Is a fee required?
Yes, land use rental fees are required and there are two ways to determine the fees:
1.
Five percent of adjusted gross receipts for one time events and 3 percent of
adjusted gross receipts for multiple events under a single permit; or
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2.
Using the minimum fees for recreation events that have been established, but
may vary, by National Forest.
There may be other costs for which you are responsible as part of your authorized
activity. Liability insurance coverage and a performance bond to ensure protection of the
environment and site cleanup may be required.
If no, please describe the process you went through to find out that they were not
required:
Special equipment
Does the trip require special
equipment?
Special experience
Does the trip require special
skills on the part of the
participant?
Pre-trip activities
Do you plan to get your group
together before the trip for an
activity or social event?
Conservation, education and
recreation
How will this AMC-AT trip
meet the mission of the AMC?
www.outdoors.org/about/
mission.cfm
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of equipment and how you
will ensure that people know how to use it:
Standard backpacking gear for each participant. Shared tents, stoves, and water filters.
For group equipment, large pots and a tarp which I have. We will be interviewing each
prospective participant, and will ask what equipment they have. Bear canisters TBD
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of experience? Also describe
how you will ensure that the participant has this experience?
Appropriate prior backpacking experience is required. We will be interviewing each
prospective participant, and will ask. We will also ask for references and check them.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will do:
Possibly - Main purpose would be check hike for applicants w/o references. If most of
the group is nearby might schedule pretrip social.
San Juan National Forest has several education programs. The Steam Train transport to
the trail head is an active museum (not SJNF) demonstrating historical transportation.
Rail Rangers are trained volunteers that ride the Durango-Silverton Narrow Gauge
Railroad, answering questions about forest history, flora and fauna, fire information, and
multiple-use management. LNT principles will be practiced and discussed before and
during the hike in Wilderness Area.
TOUR OPERATOR AND GUIDE SERVICE INFORMATION
Will this trip require a tour
operator or guide service
during part, or the entire
trip?
Name of tour operator/guide
service
Tour operator website
Safety record
Please provide information
about their safety record.
Insurance
Do they have liability
insurance?
Emergency response
Please describe the outfitters’
response plan in the case of an
emergency.
Yes
No
Please describe their services. If you are using a tour operator for the entire trip,
please describe why you will be using them rather than doing this trip on your own:
Liability? Yes
No
Are they willing to list AMC as an
additional insured?
Maximum amt: $
Yes
No
RISK ASSESSMENT
Please assess the risks and hazards of your trip. Carefully consider each area of risk and how it may affect your trip.
Devise a plan to prevent each hazard and to respond to it if it becomes necessary. Please be very specific for each section
if applicable.
Trail conditions, river crossings, weather, wildlife (bears, snakes, etc.)
Climate/terrain
Potential hazards
Rain, lightning, wind, river crossings, bears, altitude.
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Response
Foreign Country
Potential hazards
Response
Transportation
Potential hazards
Response
Participants
Potential hazards
Response
Other
Potential hazards
Response
Everyone will carry appropiate rain and wind protection. We will watch the weather
carefully, especially looking out for thunderstorms and adjust itinerary to be off ridges in
afternoons. May require Bear canisters - TBD but no mention on Forest Service website.
High Altitude requires some acclimitization - Durango is at 6700 feet and we will be
there 24+ hours then camping the first night at 8500 - 10000 feet.
Political concerns, crime, language translation, terrorism
N/A
Road conditions, drivers, insurance
US drivers on mountain roads, in small city area and wildlife in the road.
Drive carefully. We will rent nothing larger than a minivan. It is possible that cars will
be used only at start of trip by leaders for grocery shopping.
Level of fitness, screening concerns, experience with equipment or activity
Participants need to be fit and able to keep up with the group; pace will be moderate.
A full screening process will eliminate many potential problems and those that arise
willbe dealt with on an individual basis. Both leaders have group leadership experience
and are practiced at handling uncomfortable situations. Potential health threats will be
aired during the screening process so leaders will be aware of participants'risks.
Conditions unique to this type of trip
Bears and other varmits attacking our food.
We will use whatever methods required. Cannisters may be needed - TBD.
EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN
Please describe your plans for dealing with emergencies. Give as much detail as possible and list any special
communications equipment you may need to ensure the safety of your participants. DO NOT LEAVE THIS BLANK
Distance to closest emergency service (see below) ~20 miles
Emergency communication
Phone contacts, language,
documentation, distance from
emergency services
We will bring a non-trivial first aid kit. Cell phones are not likely to work in the
Emergency equipment
What sort of emergency first
wilderness area but there will be one on the trip in case there are coverage areas.
aid or communication
equipment (satellite phone,
two-way radios) do you plan
to use, if any?
If possible, we will evacuate ourselves. If not, we will send two people out (maximum
Evacuation
Please describe your plan for
less than 10 miles) to call the relevant
evacuation from the
backcountry location if
applicable?
Mercy Urgent Care
Medical care
Please describe the medical
10 Purgatory Blvd, Durango, CO 81301 (~20 miles from the trailhead)
care available in the area(s)
(970) 385-2129
where you will be traveling
and list names and telephone
Mercy Regional Medical Center (~45 miles from the trailhead)
numbers for these facilities.
1010 Three Springs Boulevard, Durango,
970-247-4311
COST AND BUDGET DETAILS
Foreign currencies
For int’l trips list each foreign currency, the
current $US dollar exchange rate and what
contingencies you have if that rate changes. If
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N/A - US Trip
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a tour operator or agent is being used, what
currency is the agent to be paid in?
Airline Reservation only - plan to book May
Deposits
What deposits will be required
Hostel - no deposit but credit card in play - 8 day free cancellation
by airlines, hotels, tour
operators, etc., and when?
Approx May 31, 2013 Based on planned booking of Airfares.
Refunds
What is the latest date you can
Hostel Reservation may be cancelled 8 days in advance w/o charge
cancel and still receive a full
refund of any deposits?
Initial deposit of $200 is due with application. Second payment of $400 is due two
Participant deposit
What are the initial deposit and
weeks after acceptance. Final balance of $396 is due June 1, 2013. Deposit checks
your schedule of payments by
from wait listed applicants will not be cashed unless and until we accept them AND
participants to you?
they confirm continued interest.
Our cancellation policy is based on several considerations. Cancellation will not be
Cancellation policy
What will your cancellation
allowed to raise the cost to the other participants or to the leaders. Published minimum
policy be for the participants?
penalty schedule: zero during or before March 2013, $200 in April and May, and $400
after May 2010. If actual costs (expenses already incurred on your behalf and any
unavoidable future expenses that will be incurred as a result of your registration and
cancellation) are higher, they will be assessed instead, unless they can be applied
toward another acceptable participant. If we cannot find an acceptable replacement,
you may forfeit most or all of the trip fee.
Minimum numbers
Yes
No
If yes, please describe conditions:
Will you still run the trip if you
do not get the minimum number?
Reference web links:
AMC-ATC Home Page:
Forms:
Deadlines:
E-Mail Addresses:
Club House:
AMC-ATC Chair:
Form Revised March 2012
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/application/
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/committee/proposals/
cyout@outdoors.org
amcatchair@comcast.net
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