Sam Jamke/John Lisker
Trekking Patagonia - Chile and Argentina!
SUMMARY OF TRIP INFORMATION
Trekking Patagonia - Chile and Argentina!
Leader Sam Jamke
Co-leader John Lisker
El Calafate, El Chalten & Los Glaciares NP in Argentina, Torres del Paine NP and
Puerto Natales in Chile.
Feb 25 to March 11, 2012
Total # of days 16
Hiking
Downhill skiing
Kayaking
Title of trip
Leadership
Location(s)
Dates
Type of trip
check all that apply
Backpacking
Cultural
Road biking
Nordic ski
Mountain biking
Snorkeling
Other – please describe
Cultural or natural history tour to be included
Number of participants
(excluding leaders)
Advertised cost
Airfare range if not included
Do you wish to have your trip
listed online before it is
published in The Outdoors?
Smaller trips and leader
subsidization
Max 10
Min 8
$ 3950
Does it include airfare? Yes
No
$
Yes
No If yes, please list the approximate month (max is one year in
advance of trip)
May 15, 2011
Is this proposal for a small group trip – i.e., less than 14 participants and 2
leaders or 7 participants and 1 leader? Yes
No
If yes, why is a small group proposed? This is a technical trip because of the
backpacking component; additionally, getting accommodations in lodges in TDP
during high season for a larger group would be difficult.
If a participant fee increase of more than 15% is proposed, please explain
why? Portion of the trip in TDP is backpacking
LEADER AND CO-LEADER INFORMATION
Leader name
Leader address
Leader email
Leader phone
Wilderness first aid training
CPR training
Prior leading experience
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
Sam Jamke
96 Jenkins Road, Bedford, NH 03110
samjamke@myfairpoint.net
Home 603-472-2536
Work 603-867-5591/cell
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: Nov 2012
CPR
BLS
Expiration: April 2012
Please list the last three longer (5+ day) trips you have led for the AMC including
destination, type of trip, dates and number of participants. Feel free to list additional
trips you have led, particularly if they demonstrate experience related to the trip you
are proposing.
Death Valley and Southern Nevada, upcoming, 14 participants, L with Ron Janowitz
New Zealand's Great Walks, Feb 2010 CL with Lisker
Scottish Highlands, August 2009, 9 participants
Four season hike leader with NH; August Camp hike leader; did a service trip to TDP

To lead a major excursion you must have current CPR and WFA at the time of your trip (or AWFA for all backcountry
trips). If you do not have the required level of certification at the time you submit your proposal or it will expire before
the date of your trip, you will need to make arrangements to recertify in a timely manner.
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Trekking Patagonia - Chile and Argentina!
in 2008 during which I was a crew chief; we stayed at Paine Grande Lodge
Co-leader name
Co-leader address
Co-leader email
Co-leader phone
Wilderness first aid training*
CPR training*
Prior leading experience
John Lisker
2390 Commonwealth Ave, Auburndale, MA 02466
john.lisker@juno.com
Home 617-244-1636
Work
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: May 2013
CPR
BLS
Expiration: May 2013
If you are a new co-leader you must submit an application to be a major excursions
leader or co-leader prior to submitting this application.
Scouting
Have either of you led this trip
before or traveled to this
area?
Languages
Does either the co-leader or
leader speak the local
language?
Couples
Do the leader and co-leader
have a significant personal
relationship?
Private trips
Do either of you lead trips that
are private - not sponsored by
the AMC?
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below:
Leader was a crew chief on a trailwork trip to TDP in 2008 with another non-profit.
Executive summary
Please provide a brief
description of the trip and the
activities planned.
Accommodations
Please describe your plan for
accommodation(s)
Meals
Please describe your plan for
providing meals
Permits or permissions
Does the trip require special
permits or permissions?
(required on many U.S.
federal lands and national
parks)
Fly on LAN from MIA to Buenos Aires to El Calafate. Glacier tour. Travel to El
Chalten for 2 day hikes in Los Glacieres NP (Fitzroy & Cerro Torre). Travel to Chile to
hike the W in TDP, staying four nights in lodges. Return flight on LAN from Punta
Arenas via Santiago to JFK. See itinerary at end.
Hotels, hostels and lodges; Lodges average about $80 pppn with all meals; hotels about
$50 or less pppn, some with breakfast.
Co-leader: Yes
No
Leader: Yes
No
Not applicable:
Yes
No
If yes, please list who has agreed to be your back-up in case one or
both of you need to drop out. This is required for approval!
Yes
No
If yes, please note that you cannot advertise AMC and private trips
together unless there is a clear distinction between the two in any marketing
materials you send out.
LOGISTICAL DETAILS OF TRIP
Special equipment
Does the trip require special
equipment?
Special experience
Does the trip require special
skills on the part of the
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All meals in TDP included; all breakfasts will be provided when outside the park. First
and last night's dinners included. Other meals on own in restaurants.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will need to do to obtain them:
If no, please describe the process you went through to find out that they were not
required:
Previous travel to area; there is a one time fee for first time visitors to Chile, which
individuals must pay (about $130 US).
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of equipment and how you
will ensure that people know how to use it:
Backpacks for gear, clothing and sleeping bags. Careful phone interviews will be
conducted if participants are not known to the leaders.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of experience? Also describe
how you will ensure that the participant has this experience?
Participants must have at least intermediate backpacking experience and exhibit good
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participant?
Pre-trip activities
Do you plan to get your group
together before the trip for an
activity or social event?
Conservation, education and
recreation
How will this major excursion
meet the mission of the AMC?
www.outdoors.org/about/
mission.cfm
personal condition. The trip screening process will involve e-mail and telephone
communications, augmented with personal reference checks (i.e. speaking with
leaders of past trips that included participants) as necessary.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will do:
Day hike and/or social event, depending on group's background
We will be seeing and learning about an entirely different ecology than that of the
Whites and New England; there will be the opportunity to see animals such as guanaco,
flamingos, rhea, huemul (a threatened species) and Magellenic penguins.
TOUR OPERATOR AND GUIDE SERVICE INFORMATION
Will this trip require a tour
operator or guide service
during part, or the entire
trip?
Name of tour operator/guide
service
Tour operator website
Safety record
Please provide information
about their safety record.
Insurance
Do they have liability
insurance?
Emergency response
Please describe the outfitters’
response plan in the case of an
emergency.
Yes
No
Please describe their services. If you are using a tour operator for the entire trip,
please describe why you will be using them rather than doing this trip on your own:
Liability? Yes
No
Are they willing to list AMC as an
additional insured?
Maximum amt: $
Yes
No
RISK ASSESSMENT
Please assess the risks and hazards of your trip. Carefully consider each area of risk and how it may affect your trip.
Devise a plan to prevent each hazard and to respond to it if it becomes necessary. Please be very specific for each section
if applicable.
Trail conditions, river crossings, weather, wildlife (bears, snakes, etc.)
Climate/terrain
Potential hazards
Weather in the regions of Chile and Argentina can be quite variable. High winds are
common; there are a few stretches of trail in TDP with hairy stream crossings and rough
terrain.
Response
Due caution and proper footwear is essential
Political concerns, crime, language translation, terrorism
Foreign Country
Potential hazards
No problems currently in either country for US travelers
Response
Will check State Dept web site in advance of travel
Road conditions, drivers, insurance
Transportation
Potential hazards
Response
We will be using public transportation.
Level of fitness, screening concerns, experience with equipment or activity
Participants
Potential hazards
Injury, lack of proper gear
Response
Screening to ensure fitness, experience and gear
Conditions unique to this type of trip
Other
Potential hazards
Medical facilities are far from TDP
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Response
There is communication to the outside world at the various lodges we will use. In
Argentina, we will be staying in towns and hotels with phone service and local police
and fire departments
EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN
Please describe your plans for dealing with emergencies. Use as much detail as possible, and list any special
communications equipment you may need to ensure the safety of your participants. DO NOT LEAVE THIS SECTION
BLANK
CONAF: Chilean Park Service (56-61) 247845
Emergency communication
Phone contacts, language,
All the refugios have radios
documentation, distance from
All the refugios have caretakers
emergency services
Police - dial 133 from any phone in Chile; medical emergency numbers in Argentina are
4923-1051, 1052 nd 1053; US Embassy in Argentina, 5777-4533/4; in Chile, (56-2) 3303000.
Group first aid kit. International cell phone (coverage likely to be spotty). AMC satellite
Emergency equipment
What sort of emergency first
phone if available.
aid or communication
equipment (satellite phone,
two-way radios) do you plan
to use, if any?
All refugios in TDP have comunication with outside world and we will never be more
Evacuation
Please describe your plan for
than a several hours from one of them; this is high season in the Park and there will be
evacuation from the
many hikers.
backcountry location if
applicable?
El Calafate and El Chalten are pretty small places. The nearest real medical facility
Medical care
Please describe the medical
appears to be in Rio Gallegos, about 450km. Medical facilities are three to six hours
care available in the area(s)
away from TDP (in Puerto Natales and Punta Arenas)
where you will be traveling
and list names and telephone
numbers for these facilities.
COST AND BUDGET DETAILS
Foreign currencies
For int’l trips list each foreign
currency, the current $US
dollar exchange rate and what
contingencies you have if that
rate changes. If a tour
operator or agent is being
used, what currency is the
agent to be paid in?
Deposits
What deposits will be required
by airlines, hotels, tour
operators, etc., and when?
Refunds
What is the latest date you can
cancel and still receive a full
refund?
Participant deposit
What are the initial deposit
and your schedule of
payments?
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As of 23 March 2011:
Chile peso - $1 USD = 481.25 CLP
Argentine peso - $1 USD = 4.042 ARS
As of 19 April 2011:
Chilean peso - $1 USD = 473.35 CLP
Argentine peso - $1 USD = 4.071 ARS
www.xe.com
The airline will want refundable seat deposits which the leaders can finance. We cannot
book lodging until late summer or early fall of 2011.
30 June 2011
Registration deposit of $500 due with application. A second payment of $1,000 is due
two weeks after acceptance. The final balance of $2,450 is due November 1, 2011.
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Cancellation policy
What will your cancellation
policy be for the participants?
Minimum numbers
Will you still run the trip if you
do not get the minimum
number?
Reference web links:
MEC Home Page:
Forms:
Deadlines:
E-Mail Addresses:
Club House:
MEC Chair:
Published minimum penalty schedule: Zero before July 2011, $400 from July through
September 2011, $800 after September 2011. If actual costs (expenses already incurred
on your behalf and any unavoidable future expenses that will be incurred as a result of
your registration and cancellation) are higher, they will be assessed instead, unless they
can be applied toward another acceptable participant.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe conditions:
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Detailed Itinerary
Date
Sat
Sun
Mon
Tue
Wed
Thu
Fri
Sat
Sun
Mon
Tue
Wed
Thu
Fri
Sat
Sun
What/Where
25 Feb
26 Feb
27 Feb
28 Feb
29 Feb
1-Mar
2-Mar
MIA to EZE; Dep ~ 9pm
Arr EZE 7 am; Transfer to AEP; dep for FTE 12:30
Day Excursion, Perito Moreno Glacier
Bus to El Chalten
Day Hike
Day hike
Bus to El Calafate
Bus to Puerto Natales
3-Mar Rest Day in PN
4-Mar Bus to Laguna Amarga
TDP Admission
Shuttle to Los Torres
Hike to Chileno, then DP Lookout
5-Mar Hike to Los Cuernos
6-Mar Hike to Paine Grande/opt'l trip to French Valley
7-Mar Hike to R. Grey
8-Mar Hike to Paine Grande and catamaran
Bus to Puerto Natales
9-Mar free day and bus to Punta Arenas
10-Mar Fly to Santiago and then JFK
11-Mar Arrive JFK about 7:15 am
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