Coast to Coast Walk in England - Lake District
John Lisker/Sam Jamke
May 21-31, 2008
SUMMARY OF TRIP INFORMATION
Coast to Coast Walk in England - Lake District
Leader John Lisker
Co-leader Sam Jamke
England's Lake District and Yorkshire Dales, northern UK
May 21-31, 2008
Total # of days 10
Hiking
Downhill skiing
Kayaking
Title of trip
Leadership
Location(s)
Dates
Type of trip
check all that apply
Backpacking
Cultural
Road biking
Nordic ski
Mountain biking
Snorkeling
Other – please describe
Walking or tramping, as the Brits say.
Max 10
Min 8
$ 1600 (10) or $1700 Does it include airfare? Yes
No
(8), plus airfare
$ $700-850 (Leaders will advise and recommend if requested)
Number of participants
Advertised cost
Airfare range if not included
LEADER AND CO-LEADER INFORMATION
Leader name
Leader address
Leader email
Leader phone
Wilderness first aid training
CPR training
Prior leading experience
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
Co-leader name
Co-leader address
Co-leader email
Co-leader phone
Wilderness first aid training*
CPR training*
Prior leading experience
John Lisker
2390 Commonwealth Ave, Auburndale, MA 02466
john.lisker@juno.com
Home 617-244-1636
Work n/a
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: Dec 2008
CPR
BLS
Expiration: Jan 2009
Please list the last three longer (5+ day) trips you have led for the AMC including
destination, type of trip, dates and number of participants. Feel free to list additional
trips you have led, particularly if they demonstrate experience related to the trip you
are proposing.
Tramping in New Zealand, Feb 3-19, 2007; 10 participants
San Juans Backpack (CO), 1999; 10 participants
Crete hiking and Culture, 1999; 9 participants
Seven days on the SouthWest Coast Path, Devon & Cornwall, April, 2003
Sam Jamke
96 Jenkins Road
samjamke@verizon.net
Home 603-472-2536
Work n/a
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: Nov 2008
CPR
BLS
Expiration: May 2008
If you are a new co-leader you must submit an application to be a major excursions
leader or co-leader prior to submitting this application.

To lead a major excursion you must have current CPR and WFA at the time of your trip (or AWFA for all backcountry
trips). If you do not have the required level of certification at the time you submit your proposal or it will expire before
the date of your trip, you will need to make arrangements to recertify in a timely manner.
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Coast to Coast Walk in England - Lake District
John Lisker/Sam Jamke
Scouting
Have either of you led this trip
before or traveled to this
area?
Languages
Does either the co-leader or
leader speak the local
language?
Couples
Do the leader and co-leader
have a significant personal
relationship?
Private trips
Do either of you lead trips that
are private - not sponsored by
the AMC?
May 21-31, 2008
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below:
Both leader and coleader have walked in the British Isles. Sam has done the West
Highland Way in Scotland and the Cotswold Way in England and made all the
arrangements for both trips (2 & 8 participants respectively). John has done one week on
the Southwest Coast Path, making all arrangements.
Co-leader: Yes
No
Leader: Yes
No
Not applicable:
Yes
No
If yes, please list who has agreed to be your back-up in case one or
both of you need to drop out. This is required for approval!
Yes
No
If yes, please note that you cannot advertise AMC and private trips
together unless there is a clear distinction between the two in any marketing
materials you send out.
LOGISTICAL DETAILS OF TRIP
Executive summary
Please provide a brief
description of the trip and the
activities planned.
Our proposed adventure will take us through England's scenic and hilly Lake District
and into the Yorkshire Dales as we walk the western half of the famous Coast to Coast
walk conceived by Alfred Wainwright. We will carry mid-sized packs with our gear and
clothing needed for walking days, and use a baggage transport service to move some
additional luggage to our rest day location and then to our final destination. We will stay
in B&B's along the way.
The group will fly (Day 0) to either London or Manchester in the UK and use trains to
reach St. Bees on the western coast of England on day 1. We will, after three days (2, 3,
4) of walking, have a rest day (5) in Grasmere. Grasmere, with dozens of shops,
galleries and accommodations, was the home of William Wordsworth, England’s most
beloved poet, and his burial site is probably the single most visited attraction.
From Grasmere we will walk four additional days (6, 7, 8, 9) to Kirkby Stephen, the end
of our walk. After an overnight there, we will use trains to return to our departure
airport. Please see attached document for further detailed description, which will form
the basis of the trip prospectus.
Accommodations
Please describe your plan for
accommodation(s)
Meals
Please describe your plan for
providing meals
Permits or permissions
Does the trip require special
permits or permissions?
(required on many U.S.
federal lands and national
parks)
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Leaders will provide flight information to participants with advice/requirements as to
timing of arrival and departure.
In the small rural towns along the C2C walk, the B&B facilities are small; few can
accommodate a group of 12. We will use Contours (www.contours.co.uk) or similar
booking service to arrange B&B accommodations along our route to ensure
accommodations are near one another.
Breakfasts will be included in the accommodation fees. Individuals will buy packed
lunches on their own, either from the B&B or from shops in the towns. Because our
overnight stays are in small towns, restaurants able to serve our entire group may not be
available Dinners will be at individuals' own expense, allowing participants flexibility
in choice of dining. Leaders plan on doing most of the coordination each evening of
where to go to eat, and accepting the treasurer role afterward.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below:
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Special equipment
Does the trip require special
equipment?
Special experience
Does the trip require special
skills on the part of the
participant?
Pre-trip activities
Do you plan to get your group
together before the trip for an
activity or social event?
Conservation, education and
recreation
How will this major excursion
meet the mission of the AMC?
www.outdoors.org/about/
mission.cfm
May 21-31, 2008
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of equipment and how you
will ensure that people know how to use it:
Normal hiking gear and clothing
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of experience? Also describe
how you will ensure that the participant has this experience?
Good physical conditioning and proven ability to walk 9-14 miles a day over varied
terrain. Screening will include at least one telephone conversation with each prospective
participant.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will do:
Given the spring timing, we will probably have a social meeting/potluck to discuss the
trip. A hike would be difficult to arrange, unless participants are winter hikers.
United States history and culture have their roots in England. This trip provides
participants the opportunity to see the country and meet its residents "up close and
personal." We will climb several scenic summits, cross historic rivers and visit the home
town of William Wordsworth. Much of our walk will be in the Lake District National
Park and our last two days of walking take us through a section of the Dales, passing
Sunbiggin Tarn (a favorite spot for birdwatchers) en route. We will have the opportunity
to see Kinniside Stone Circle and the ancient Shap Abbey, built in 1199. A trip to
Europe brings home the realization of just how young our own country is.
TOUR OPERATOR AND GUIDE SERVICE INFORMATION
Will this trip require a tour
operator or guide service
during part, or the entire
trip?
Name of tour operator/guide
service
Tour operator website
Safety record
Please provide information
about their safety record.
Insurance
Do they have liability
insurance?
Emergency response
Please describe the outfitters’
response plan in the case of an
emergency.
Yes
No
Please describe their services. If you are using a tour operator for the entire trip,
please describe why you will be using them rather than doing this trip on your own:
n/a
Liability? Yes
No
Are they willing to list AMC as an
additional insured?
Maximum amt: $ not applicable
Yes
No
RISK ASSESSMENT
Please assess the risks and hazards of your trip. Carefully consider each area of risk and how it may affect your trip.
Devise a plan to prevent each hazard and to respond to it if it becomes necessary. Please be very specific for each section
if applicable.
Trail conditions, river crossings, weather, wildlife (bears, snakes, etc.)
Climate/terrain
Potential hazards
The usual possible hiking issues: trips, falls, rain (hypothermia)
Response
Be sure each participant has proper clothing and uses it.
Political concerns, crime, language translation, terrorism
Foreign Country
Potential hazards
Similar to US.
Response
Road conditions, drivers, insurance
Transportation
Potential hazards
No known issues with UK public transport
Response
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Participants
Potential hazards
Response
Other
Potential hazards
Response
May 21-31, 2008
Level of fitness, screening concerns, experience with equipment or activity
Inadequate fitness level, experience, clothing, equipment
Address fitness and experience issues via questionnaire and personal telephone
interviews. Provide detailed "what to bring" list.
Conditions unique to this type of trip
n/a
EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN
Please describe your plans for dealing with emergencies. Use as much detail as possible, and list any special
communications equipment you may need to ensure the safety of your participants. DO NOT LEAVE THIS SECTION
BLANK
Leaders will have and provide contact information for each B& B en route. Contours [
Emergency communication
Phone contacts, language,
017684 80451 (44 17684 80451 from outside the UK)] will have our complete itinerary.
documentation, distance from
emergency services
Group first aid kit will be carried; participants will be told to bring personal first aid
Emergency equipment
What sort of emergency first
supplies/medications. We will be staying each night in towns where phone service (and
aid or communication
occasionally internet service) is available. No satellite phones or other comunication
equipment (satellite phone,
equipment will be necessary.
two-way radios) do you plan
to use, if any?
We will use local police, fire and medical personnel in case of a serious emergency.
Evacuation
Please describe your plan for
evacuation from the
backcountry location if
applicable?
Local clinics and hospitals will be used.
Medical care
Please describe the medical
care available in the area(s)
where you will be traveling
and list names and telephone
numbers for these facilities.
COST AND BUDGET DETAILS
Deposits
What deposits will be required
by airlines, hotels, tour
operators, etc., and when?
Refunds
What is the latest date you can
cancel and still receive a full
refund?
Participant deposit
What are the initial deposit
and your schedule of
payments?
Cancellation policy
What will your cancellation
policy be for the participants?
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£75 pp upon booking - Contours (should book in November for best selection of B&B );
once booked the deposit is non-refundable, so we must know the trip will run before
booking
Up to 56 days before the start date, only the deposit is forfeited
$500 with application; balance due February 29, 2008 (or in installments prior to that
date)
Our cancellation policy is based on several considerations. First, cancellation shall not
raise the cost to the other participants or to the leaders. Second, we will charge a
cancelling participant for the expenses already incurred on his/her behalf and any
unavoidable future expenses that will be incurred as a result of his/her registration,
unless they can be applied toward another acceptable participant. Third, to discourage
uncommitted people from applying for the trip, we have a schedule of minimum
cancellation penalties: zero before October 1, 2007, $150 from October 1, 2007 to
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Minimum numbers
Will you still run the trip if you
do not get the minimum
number?
May 21-31, 2008
January 31, 2008, $300 after January 31, 2008.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe conditions:
We have submitted costing information for two alternatives - 8 participants and 10
participants and ask for the ME Committee's input as to which scenario to run. Both
scenarios have the leaders contributing about $545 each, but the participant support rates
are different. The smaller group stands a better chance of being accommodated in one or
two B&B's in each town; we might be spread over three with a larger group. We expect
groups as large as 12 (or even 10) are uncommon on this route, and so we would prefer
to keep the group size to a minimum.
Reference web links:
MEC Home Page:
Forms:
Deadlines:
Club House:
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/application/
http://snebulos.mit.edu/orgs/amc/listings
amcexcursions@outdoors.org
E-Mail Addresses:
Club House:
MEC Chair:
amcexcursions@outdoors.org
mecchair@amcboston.org
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