Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 1 S i Sales Initiative Magazine On the Road FOCUS ISSUE 10 JULY 13 £3.95 @SI_MagUK What the mobile salesforces should be buying into WWW.SALES-INITIATIVE.COM THE UK'S ONLY MAGAZINE DEDICATED TO THE PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT OF SALES Give up on the thought that you’re just selling products says Prof Lynette Ryals Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 2 SI [big interview] So you think you just sell products? Blurring the definitions between products and services can give sales organisations the edge, says Prof Lynette Ryals of Cranfield University. words | Paul Myles pictures | Sonja Horsman 2 SI [Sales Initiative ISSUE 10] Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 3 N ever before has the academic world been working closer with industry in finding new ways to move forward in a continually challenging economic landscape. Commerce needs to explore new ways and methods to stay ahead in an ever increasingly global market where competition has become ever more intense as emerging economics begin exploiting their own local advantages to undercut the West’s traditional manufacturing and service industries. Yet, argues Lynette Ryals, professor of strategic studies and account management at Cranfield University, there are ways to level the playing field with exciting new approaches to selling customers solutions. At the end of last year, she co-authored with the eminent sales industry thinker Professor Neil Rackham a white paper entitled Sales Implications of Servitization offering one particular approach to regaining the competitive edge in sales. SI caught up with Ryals on campus to get an in-depth explanation of the concept of servitisation. Ryals told us: “One of the things I’m particularly interested in at the moment is the notion of servitisation, which is where companies that had the mind-set about selling products are now adding a service offering and putting together a package. “To put this in context, my own research area is entirely B2B and certainly in major sales there is a strong trend towards consultative selling, solution selling and resolving a customer’s problem or issue but, very often, the mechanism for doing that is to wrap additional services around the products. “The reason that this is happening is to do with the international and global competition that we are seeing right now and the realisation that there is always someone who can make it cheaper in China, the Philippines or one other of the emerging markets. If that’s the case, then you don’t want to go down the route of competing on price, unless you are the lowest cost producer. That model worked before markets became more open and global – now the competition to be the lowest priced producer is really quite tough for western organisations. So we are seeing this shift towards servitisation, of the added value services.” Ryals said some big industrial players have already adopted the concept and are reaping the rewards with bulging order books. She said: “Probably the best example of this in the B2B sector is Rolls-Royce and their total-care offering with a wrap-around maintenance package, monitoring, tracking and advice, which is a whole group of services that is wrapped around the core that is 3 Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 4 the engine supply. The mental shift there was from ‘we’re selling aircraft engines’ to ‘we’re keeping planes in the air’. It’s that move from the product-based issue to considering how to address what are the customer’s main issues in the service we provide. “Trend Control Systems is another very interesting example where they are selling monitoring control boxes but what they are doing now is wrapping around that, for their major clients, the monitoring, data collection, data analysis and remote servicing of units, those sorts of added value packages. That’s all about helping customers to become more productive in their own businesses.” But Ryals pointed out that the special relationship with a customer can also have huge benefits for the supplier, which can often see its own offering improved through servitisation. She explained: “Back with Rolls-Royce they have a flight operations officer who uses engine monitoring data collected to advise pilots how to fly more economically, so that then feeds back in as additional value for the customer. Also, from RollsRoyce’s point of view, they can also use that data to improve aircraft engine design to make them not only more economical but also safer. “So these ideas of wrapping the services around have payoffs for both customers and suppliers.” But taking to a whole new sales relationship methodology is not as simple as it may seem and Ryals warns that sales organisations will have to adopt a more radical mental approach to how they sell and the efforts they put into creating and maintaining customer relations. She told SI: “I think the process we have to go through is to start with culture change. Certainly, with many of the companies that I’ve seen doing this, they also do it through an evolutionary process often working with customers particularly closely and that puts them into a different kind of relationship with their customers. “It’s not a zero-sum game, where ‘I win, you lose’, it’s much more about how can we work more closely to improve the performance of both organisations? Very like a partnership deal with a focus not just on business as usual but on changing the way that we do business. A nice example of this would be Unipart’s technology and logistics and the way that they work with Sky – Sky is a major customer for them and what they are doing is providing added value services around inbound logistics, checking products and recycling. These are all kinds of added value services and their whole relationship with Sky has changed and they are actually now generating more revenues and savings and managing the business processes across the boundaries between the organisations and gaining efficiencies for both parties. “An interesting part of this model is the way that they do it using gain-share pricing so the two businesses sit down together on a very regular basis and they discuss what has been gained, what should be attributed to each party and they share the benefits. 4 SI [Sales Initiative ISSUE 10] One of the things I’m particularly interested in at the moment is the notion of servitisation, which is where companies that had the mind-set about selling products are now adding a service offering and putting together a package. “I think this is a particularly sophisticated and advanced model but it points to a changing notion of the B2B relationship. In the past, we’ve been labouring under the idea that it’s been about conflict where we’ve seen negotiating and working together in terms of conflict and conflict management and we’ve thought about it in terms of the zero-sum game and about power. A lot of that is still prevalent in business relationships but we are now seeing the signs of a different way of working that is Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 5 SI [big interview] much more about collaboration and equitable relationships and interesting developments around trust and different forms of contracts. Contracts don’t have to be a legal thing, they can be a relational thing. “That is the picture of where we are going and the competitive landscape is going to be much more around these added value services. We will see more of the ‘law of the disappearing middle’ and we’ll see the bigger players winning and moving into the high end and there will still be players in the low cost end of the market but can you be in the middle anymore? There will be a big question over whether that position will be sustainable.” Ryals recognises that this cultural change will present some real challenges to traditionally minded organisations that might be reluctant in abandoning a ‘proven formula’. Yet, not to embrace this sea-change in customer relationships could, eventually, consign an organisation unable to address change to the history books. Ryals added: “I think the idea of moving towards a more service-based model is something we are going to see much more. There is a consequence of this that I am very interested in. “It starts from a culture change and you have to see things from the customer’s point of view. That comes with other things you have to do over time such as openness – gain-share pricing doesn’t work unless you’re prepared to be open because both sides need to make a profit. So there are a number of things along these lines that we can see developing in this journey. It takes somebody thinking a little out-of-the-box to achieve this, someone saying, ‘OK, we’ve always done it this way but that doesn’t mean it’s the right way to do it’. But she said the process is not all ‘stick’ because several companies have seen a very tangible ‘carrot’ when applying the principles of servitisation. “Instead of the zero-sum game, it needs to become a positive-sum game where both parties can gain and both organisations become strong, learning more. Again, with RollsRoyce, the fact that they now have so much data they can feed it back to improving their own products. Even on a basic level, this could improve on things like a breakthrough way of thinking and what we might see happening in future is that, while in the past we’ve seen innovation come from within organisations, I wonder if we’ll see more innovation happening jointly between organisations at the boundary where they cross over. “Hopefully, we’ll find people just asking a simple question like ‘we keep a finished goods stock and they keep and inbound stock so why are we doubling up?’ Or ‘why do our products keep breaking or why does a certain problem keep arising?’ It’s that ability to have that innovation breakthrough. “One of the firms I work with is Addleshaw Goddard, a law firm, and they have a very interesting approach and have a very good system of managing relationships with customers. They are now running joint diversity seminars because it is important for some of their customers to have more diversity among senior managers. These are shared interests and not a conflict situation approach and that is not like a normal buyer-seller relationship, it is more like a partnership.” And Ryals warns that the edge a sophisticated western organisation has, using the method, is not likely to remain unchallenged for long as emerging countries begin to see the advantages it can provide. She said: “It is typically the case that emerging markets tend to start with raw materials production, then go into basic products which you can see many parts of Africa, and then going into more complex products to start moving towards services and you can see that happening in China, for example. So the servitisation model, for the moment, can give the western organisations something of and advantage. “However, there are examples of companies in emerging markets who are providing added value services and that signals to us that it is something that customers increasingly want.” Yet, just as her research into servitisation had come to a close, the process has led to a fresh aspect of sales that Ryals is working on for her next white paper focused on the ‘cost of selling’. Ryals explained: “The servitisation trend is very interesting and linked to that, or in parallel, there is something we have to think about which is the whole notion of the cost of sales. “Where we are, in western economies, there is the situation where the cost of the direct sales force is increasing. I can just about remember as a kid there being the ‘man from the Pru’ [Prudential insurance] collecting the premiums and now, of course, the sales process is much more about car, laptop, software, mobile phone, iPad, etc., and plus the people costs are higher. You add to that the notion of developing complex products and solutions and you are now looking at a sales cycle that is longer because you are selling something that is bigger and more complex. “In turn, you are looking at relationships that require more input on the supplier side and the cost of the people is going up, especially with team-based selling with more people involved in the sale. So, all of these things put together, mean that the cost of making a sale is actually increasing. “A lot of the companies that I work with are talking about sales cycles that, instead of being a few months, could be 12 or 24 months. It’s a major, major deal and you’re not going to sign a partnership agreement in the same time that you would have secured a straight-forward product sale. 5 Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 6 SI [big interview] One of the firms I work with is Addleshaw Goddard, a law firm, and they have a very interesting approach and have a very good system of managing relationships with customers. They are now running joint diversity seminars because it is important for some of their customers to have more diversity among senior managers. These are shared interests and not a conflict situation approach and that is not like a normal buyerseller relationship, it is more like a partnership.” “That sets up a new challenge for suppliers, which is that they have to think about the ‘sale’ as an investment. So you have a number of sales opportunities but, arguably, you cannot chase all of them. That is the next area we want to research and we are doing some work on this already around looking at this notion of how do you select the sales opportunities you are going to pursue?” Ryals said sales organisations will have to increasingly view any pitching campaign as a long-term investment and assess the process as they would when buying shares in companies with a good potential return. She said: “At the moment, a lot of even very good companies don’t really know how much it costs them to put together a major tender. I think what we will see is more of a focus on how much it is costing to bid and when are the times we should withdraw? Because not all business is good business and this is true of certain customers and certain markets where you don’t always want 100% of the market. It might also be true within a customer 6 SI [Sales Initiative ISSUE 10] relationship where you may not always want 100% of that customer’s business. “This will be a big shift for salespeople because they are trained to go after every opportunity and I think this shift in emphasis will be about you are the relationship manager so one of your roles is not just to find the next opportunity but to evaluate that opportunity and ask ‘is this one we want to go after or is it one where we should be saying to the customer we could help facilitate this for you elsewhere?’ That’s the idea of asking if you want 100% or are there bits of the business that are more attractive and the notion of quality rather than quantity in that market share.” Some companies have already adopted this approach as detailed in SI’s interview with Simon Purchon of Babcock International (P25, September 2012), where the business development director outlined the exhaustive research process employed into potential customers for its offering. Ryals said: “I think that is going to become best practice because it’s quite clear that where organisations are in these major, lengthy sales processes it’s costing them often hundreds of thousands of pounds just to get to the point of tendering. So, if your chances of winning a tender are one-in-10 and it’s costing Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 7 £800,000 each time you’ve got to make a £8M investment to get one order and that’s an awful lot of cost to make up with profits. I do think we are going to be seeing more organisations developing methods for filtering the sales opportunities. “Myself and Neil Rackham have proposed a particular method for doing this and that will be the next part of the research to work with companies to test it out and actually to see what companies are already doing.” Ryals said sellers will have to assess the chances of both success and adequate returns on investment before entering into any future extended sales tender process. “What we’re saying is that we think we’ll see more organisations saying two things: ‘Can we win this?’ and ‘Do we want this?’,” she explained. “Because you can imagine having opportunities that you really wanted to win but you had a very low chance. Then conversely, you might have opportunities that you had a high chance of winning but were unlikely to make any money on or, worse, even lose money on. “So you can imagine those situations and you should be asking, ‘why don’t we just walk away?’ Yet if you have a high chance of winning and want to win the opportunity then you have to over-resource the tenders. “I think what we are proposing is that we should think of these opportunities, whether they are new or existing clients, as an investment portfolio. One with different opportunities that you could be spending you time on and we are going to need to become more selective about this process. Otherwise our cost of sales is going to become so high that we’re going to be uncompetitive because of being tied up and bidding on lots of things where we lose partly because of the costs and partly because there is a real reputational risk. “If I repeatedly bid for things and repeatedly don’t get them, at some point someone will think there’s a very good reason for that! “We know a small number of organisations that are looking into this area and the idea of managing the process is something that we will start to see happening.” But the ‘auditing’ of a tender will not be confined to the pre-sale process, insisted Ryals. She said: “I think this is where you will see an axis of information in an audit way. It may not just be pre-sale assessments but, during these extended 24-month sales cycles, I can imagine companies reviewing every six-months or so about where the opportunity was going – if we increased our chances of winning, what we thought about the desirability of it? This happens as you get more information the further you get through the sales process and this situation I definitely think will work.” She said that organisations will have to combine sophisticated data collection on customers with tracking of their social media to ensure the sales pitch is an agile and proactive as possible. Ryals explained: “But the other bit of this is I don’t think this is possible to achieve unless you have a pretty good CRM system because you need the customer information in this process and I genuinely believe there is an emerging nexus that is about 7 Prof Lynette Ryals_Layout 1 02/08/2013 12:18 Page 8 SI [big interview] 8 SI [Sales Initiative ISSUE 10] Ryals expects to see this ‘predictive’ approach to selling escalating with the increasing dependency of people on a life within social media. She concluded: “It’s easy to imagine that if you had a customer that, up until now, has bought one product line and then you are finding that they are Tweeting about attending a conference on something completely different. You would not get that information from your CRM but you would from social media. “The idea of being able to predict a customer’s wants, even before they know it themselves, is very powerful. It is like marketing discussing what is junk mail? Junk mail is only junk mail because it’s not relevant to you at the moment but if it hits the mat just at the time it does become relevant, then suddenly it becomes a rather useful piece of information. “There are some powerful tools in data analytics that are enabling us to predict the kinds of things customers might be interested in. I think that consumer companies are further ahead than B2B on this.” i S managing key accounts and major relationships and having the CRM system and the third piece to fit into that will be external data. With the CRM you typically pick up a lot of stuff that is behavioural, about your customer’s current habits and purchasing practices and you can buy in data sets but the third overlap will be social media. “I am starting to think about how do we measure attitudes, affinities and future intentions of customers? I suspect we are not going to be able to do that through a CRM system, which is, largely, backward looking. It can’t do that unless the future is like the past. Where customers are changing their ideas, changing culture, starting new interests, starting to introduce new products and services themselves, I think you are more likely to hear about all this through social media. We will see these three areas of client/customer management, the CRM and social media starting to overlap and the best practice companies will be doing all three. Managing their customer relationships proactively, particularly the more important ones, collecting and analysing customer data that will allow them to co-ordinate insight that is firm and looking at what those customers are engaging with in social media and what they are saying and the places they are going.”