Thursday 11 July 2013, Strathblane & Cromdale Halls, 16:30-18:30 Poster Session C - Biological dynamics and kinetics P.001 The interactions of water with biological molecules S Busch1, C D Bruce2, C Redfield1, C D Lorenz3 and S E McLain1 1 University of Oxford, UK, 2John Carroll University, USA, 3King's College London, UK Water is of fundamental importance for biological molecules to assemble and function. The folding of proteins or formation of cell membranes are driven by bio-molecular association which necessarily takes place in solution. We have investigated solutions in the presence of water of both, the peptide Gly-Pro-Gly-NH2 (gpg-NH2), an amino acid sequence which is thought to induce beta-hairpin folding in natural proteins; and the lipid ceramide which is a major component of e.g. the skin or blood-brain barrier. gpg-NH2 was measured in aqueous solution with Cl- counterions in order to ascertain the role water plays in its ability to fold. Evidence was found that water molecules mediate an intramolecular hydrogen bond which increases the stability of a turn-like formation of the peptide. Ceramide on the other hand was measured in water/choloroform solutions, where the chloroform mimics the hydrophobic environment of the lipid bilayer in cell membranes -- in order to find out more about lipid hydration which is fundamental to understand how water interacts with cellullar membranes. Both these systems were studied using a combination of neutron diffraction, nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) measurements and molecular dynamics (MD) computer simulation. The neutron scattering experiments were performed at the SANDALS diffractometer at ISIS and evaluated using the empirical structure refinement (EPSR) program. P.002 EINS wavevector and thermal analysis on homologous disaccharides M T Caccamo, S Magazù and F Migliardo Università of Messina, Italy A wavevector analysis, performed by wavelet transform, of Elastic Incoherent Neutron Scattering (EINS) intensity data collected, as a function of temperature, on three glass forming systems, i.e. on the homologous disaccharides trehalose, maltose and sucrose, is presented. The wavelet analysis allows to explore the wavevector behavior of the scattered intensity at several scales, namely at different scales for each wavevector value, in order to highlight the correlation between the signal and the set of the scaled and translated wavelet functions. The analysis performed in the wavevector range of Q = 0.28Å-1 ÷4.28Å-1, reveals, as a function of temperature, the existence of different kinds of protons dynamics which interest different spatial scales. It emerges that, differently from previous analyses, for trehalose the intensity data at all the investigated temperature values, are constantly lower and sharper in respect to maltose and sucrose, giving rise to a global spectral density along the wavevector range markedly less extended. Furthermore the application of an interpretative model for the partial and global EINS intensity temperature behavior allows to put into evidence for the disaccharides both the different wavevector dependence of the system relaxation times extracted from the intensity vs temperature inflection point and the higher thermal restrain of trehalose in respect to the other two homologous disaccharides. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.003 Inhebriated: partitioning of ethanol into lipid membranes V Garcia Sakai1, L Toppozini2, C L Armstrong2, M A Barrett2, S Zheng2, L Luo2, H Nanda3 and M Rheinstadter2 1 ISIS Facility, UK, 2McMaster University, Canada, 3NIST Center for Neutron Research, USA Short-chain alcohols are known to increase fluidity, membrane disorder and thus its permeability. This alcoholinduced permeability can drastically alter the efficacy of a prescribed drug. There is strong effort to better understand the molecular interactions between ethanol and membranes, specifically the influence of ethanol on lipid membrane structure and dynamics. Earlier neutron scattering (NS) experiments show an additional low-energy mode of the membrane in the presence of ethanol, which originates from a vertical perturbation traversing the membrane[1]. These fluctuations may enable active transport through bilayers by creating a series of travelling voids from kinks wiggling along tails to act as molecular elevators for small molecules, allowing for easier cell entry. Here we present combined x-ray and dynamical NS to determine the precise location of ethanol molecules in a lipid bilayer and the impact on membrane dynamics[2]. Lipids hydrated with a 5% w/w ethanol solution were used in NS experiments on HFBS at the NCNR-NIST, and x-ray diffraction experiments on BLADE at McMaster Univ. We find that the ethanol molecules reside amongst the lipids in the head group region. Lipid-ethanol binding slows lipid diffusion, while nano-scale lipid tail dynamics is drastically enhanced. These results will be crucial in developing a molecular mechanism for membrane-driven permeability and may be helpful in the development of drug enhancers. [1] [2] M. D. Kaye, K. Schmalzl, V. Conti Nibali, M. Tarek, M. C. Rheinstädter, Phys. Rev. E 83, 050907(R) (2011). L. Toppozini, C.L. Armstrong, M.A. Barrett, S. Zheng, L. Luo, H. Nanda, V. Garcia Sakai, M.C. Rheinstädter, Soft Matter, 2012, 8 (47), 11839. P.004 Hemoglobin diffusion in red blood cells: a physiological application S Longeville CEA, France Hemoglobin and myoglobin are oxygen storage molecules in blood and muscles, respectively. Their diffusion is since a long time supposed to facilitate oxygen transport. We have studied by neutron spin echo the protein diffusion at intermolecular scale, in vitro [1] and in vivo [2]. We have shown that theories developed for colloid diffusion can be applied understand long and short time protein diffusion if one includes the water shell in the hydrodynamic volume of the molecules, which is usually assumed to be of the order of 0.35 g of water per gram of protein. The more hemoglobin in the red blood cells the more oxygen can be transported but the strong reduction of the protein diffusion lower kinetics of oxygen capture. However, this process must be completed in the limited time spend by the red blood cells in the capillaries near the. The characteristic time scales of oxygen capture and release were given by Clark et al[3]. Using the concentration dependence of the transport diffusion coefficient of the hemoglobin we are able to show that the concentration in the red blood cells correspond to an optimum in oxygen transport for individuals sustaining strong physical activity [4]. [1] [2] [3] [4] C. Le Coeur & S. Longeville, Chem. Phys. 345 (2008) 298. W. Doster & S. Longeville, Biophys. J. 93 (2007) 1360. A. Clark, W. J. Federspiel P. A. Clark and G. R Cokelet, Biophys. J. 47 (1985) 171. S. Longeville, Submitted to Biophys. J. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.005 An inelastic neutron scattering study of dietary phenolic compounds M P Marques1, L Batista de Carvalho1, R Valero1, N Machado1 and S Parker2 1 University of Coimbra, Portugal, 2ISIS Facility, STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, UK Phenolic acid derivatives constitute one of the most ubiquitous groups of plant metabolites, present in the human diet in significant amounts and long known to display antioxidant properties. Since oxidative damage to vital biomolecules is responsible for numerous pathological processes including inflammation, atherosclerosis, cancer and neurodegenerative disorders, these dietary phytochemicals have been the object of intense research in Medicinal Chemistry. Accordingly, they have been shown to be promising preventive agents against oxidative stressinduced diseases, apart from being widely exploited as model systems for drug development. The conformational preferences and H-bonding motifs of several hydroxycinnamic derivatives were determined by inelastic neutron scattering (INS) spectroscopy, with a view to understand their recognised beneficial activity and establish reliable structure-activity relationships. A series of phenolic acids with different hydroxyl/methoxyl ring substitution patterns was studied: trans-cinnamic, m- and p -coumaric, caffeic and ferulic acids. The low energy vibrational region was accessed and assigned in the light of theoretical calculations performed at the Density Functional Theory (DFT) level, allowing the identification of some particular modes associated with H-bonding interactions (intra- and intermolecular) that are the determinant of the main conformational preferences and antioxidant capacity in these systems. P.006 20,000 leagues under the sea: Molecular adaptation of organisms to high pressure environments N Martinez1, G Michoud2, A Cario3, M Jebbar2, P Oger3, B Franzetti4 and J Peters5 1 UJF - IBS, France, 2Laboratoire de microbiologie des environments extremes UMR 6197 CNRS-Ifremer-UBO, Laboratoire de Géologie de Lyon, 4Institut de Biologie Structurale CEA-CNRS-UJF, 5Instrument CRG-IN13 c/o Institut Laue Langevin, France 3 More than 80% of the oceans volume is considered as a high hydrostatic pressure environment. It is known to harbor a variety of prokaryotes which, according to certain studies, represent up to 70% of the Earth's biomass. Many of these organisms are living near hot vents, at very high temperatures and in anaerobic environments experiencing conditions that are very different to what we can observe on the surface of Earth. Despite being widely studied, the molecular mechanism underlying their adaptation to these extreme conditions is poorly understood. Incoherent Neutron Scattering is an ideal tool to characterize in vivo dynamics as it can probe dynamics in a nondestructive fashion. Our work focuses on three different micro-organisms: E. coli which natural habitat is the human gut, T. kodakarensis that can be found in hot sulfur springs at the surface of the Earth and finally T. barophilus that lives in the bottom of the oceans near hot vents. In vivo whole proteome dynamics measurements under pressure show striking differences between these organisms and could help us to explain how these bacteria cope with extreme conditions. Another part of our project is dedicated to measure the influence of pressure on the phase transitions of natural membranes extracted from these organisms. Pressure has a rigidifying effect on membranes, and it has been hypothesized that cells have the capacity to adapt the lipidic composition of their membrane by a metabolic response to compensate it. Our objective is to precisely map the membrane phase transitions as a function of pressure to see how we can link lipid composition to adaptation to high pressure. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.007 Monte Carlo simulation for experimental system of attenuation of gamma radiation in biological interest materials R A Medeiros, E M Bruder, J Mesa, V E Costa and M A Rezende Universidade Estadual Paulista, Brazil The study of biological systems as structures is dated to the early 20th century. There are several tests to determine physical and structural of biological interest material, as destructive and non-destructive. The project goal is to establish a set of routines and algorithms for simulation by the Monte Carlo method using the code MCNPX, that can reproduce an experimental system for the attenuation of gamma radiation that has been tested successfully in determining the mass attenuation coefficient in materials of biological interest to investigate possible physical and chemical variations in these materials. The work will be divided in two stages, where the first is the development of the simulation and the second one is its application in biological materials. In the first stage will be obtained a set of routines and algorithms for simulation by Monte Carlo method using the code MCNPX, which will reproduce the existing experimental system for the attenuation of gamma radiation from 241Am with energy of 60 keV installed in the laboratory. In the second stage the simulation will be validated by comparing the attenuation coefficient obtained by gamma radiation in the experimental system, the simulation by the Monte Carlo method and the XCOM program, using samples of bone from mongrel dogs and wood species Eucalyptus grandis. The concentration of calcium in bone from mongrel dogs will be change in the simulation in order to determine the variations of the attenuation coefficient. In case of wood, the water content will be change in the simulation also for checking the variation of the attenuation coefficient. These results will be analyzed quantitatively. P.008 Anomalous water diffusion in malignant glioma tumor tissue F Natali1, J Peters1, G Leduc2, C Dolce3 and E Barbier4 1 Institut Laue-Langevin, France, 2European Synchrotron Radiation Facility, France, 3University of Palermo, Italy and Institut Laue-Langevin, France 4GIN/Centre de Recherche U836 INSERM UJF CHU CEA, France Brain tissues from the Central Nervous System are heterogeneous systems containing glia cells, neurons, myelin sheaths and extracellular space, separated by impermeable and semipermeable membranes. The major tissue constituent is the water (> 70%). Interacting with cell membranes during their random motion, water molecules can be used as a tool to probe tissue structure at microscopic scale. Nowadays, diffusion magnetic resonance imaging technique (DMRI), based on water diffusion, is widely used to detect variation at the micron scale in the tissue contrast induced by brain diseases such as ischemia, tumors etc. [1]. However, at micron scale, the cellular contributions are averaged hiding a correct interpretation of the diagnostic images. Using neutron scattering techniques, the measuring distance is reduced to the scale of the macromolecular separation. This allows having access to so far unexplored atomic and picosecond distance-time scales [2-4]. We report here results aimed at determining if neutrons reveal changes at atomic scale in water diffusion in tissues affected by brain pathologies such as the aggressive primary malignant tumor glioma, as seen by DMRI at lower spatial resolution. [1] [2] [3] [4] C.F. Hazlewood, H.E. Rorschach, C. Lin, Magn. Reson. Med. 19(2)(1991) 214. G. Schiro, C. Caronna, F. Natali, A. Cupane, J. Am. Chem. Soc. 132 (2010) 1371. M. Jasnin, M. Moulin, M. Haertlein, G. Zaccai, M. Tehei, EMBO Rep. 9 (2008) 543. A.M. Stadler, J.P. Embs, I. Digel, G.M. Artmann, T. Unruh, J. Am. Chem. Soc. 130 (2008) 16852. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.009 Dynamics of proteins at thermal melting A Paciaroni1, S Capaccioli2 and K Ngai2 1 University of Perugia, Italy 2University of Pisa, Italy Neutron scattering experiments have been made to investigate the extent of protein atomic thermal fluctuations in a wide temperature range till thermal unfolding. Proteins are simply hydrated or embedded in glycerol, glucose and glucose-water glassy environments, so as to suitably vary their melting temperature. The measured elastic intensities indicate that the protein thermal fluctuations at the different unfolding temperatures are very similar, this result being reminiscent of the well-known Lindemann criterion for melting. Dielectric spectroscopy data on the same systems are exploited to interpret these findings and the role of structural relaxation is addressed. P.010 Effects of high pressure on the dynamics of biological systems J Peters1, M Trapp2, N Martinez1, J Marion3 and M Trovaslet4 1 Institut de Biologie Structurale, France, 2Helmholtz Zentrum Berlin, Germany, 3Université Joseph Fourier Grenoble I, France, 4Institut de Recherche Biomédicale des Armées, France Pressure is a thermodynamic variable that has been under-used to probe biological molecules so far. It is supposed to open access to intermediate molecular states, which cannot be reached by temperature variation only. The lack of research in the domain is due to technical challenges, especially in combination with neutron scattering. Pressure is a macroscopic variable, whose effects are based on statistical observations, accessible by experiments with a huge number of particles in a given volume. Elastic incoherent neutron scattering on the other hand is an adequate method to probe an average over the motions of a great number of atoms, the so-called “mean square displacement”. The combination of pressure perturbation and neutron scattering permits to relate a macroscopic variable with an average over microscopic quantities, in order to yield a complete picture of molecular motions. Recent developments of high pressure cells adapted to neutron scattering experiments, in-situ tests with these cells, and first results of this approach applied to biological systems will be presented. Studying the enzyme human acetylcholinesterase, which plays a crucial role in neurotransmission, up to pressure values of 6 kbar, provided evidence for a pressure-induced stable intermediate state. Furthermore we will report our investigations on multi lamellar lipid membranes. The applied pressure induces an ordering of the acyl chains and therefore a shift of the main phase transition with consequences for the local dynamics of the system. Other recent investigations on betalactoglobulin, lysozyme and molecular adaptation of deep sea microbes will also be shown. P.011 From whole cells towards photosynthetic reaction centres: dynamics properties for biotechnological applications D Russo1, G Campi2, G Rea2 and M Lambreva2 1 CNR-IOM, Italy, 2CNR-IC, France Photosynthesis gain renewed interest due to the possibility to integrate photosynthetic sub-components into optoelectronic devices such as biosensors for environmental monitoring.In this context, it is of great relevance to study the function/dynamics relationships of genetically modified photosynthetic organisms, in order to identify the parameters underlying an increased performance in terms of charge separation, protein stability and functional reliability.Here, we address the question if there is a “functional” dynamics in addition to the intrinsic dynamical behaviour common to all proteins and how do they couple. In particular, understanding if “rigidity” is essential for the charge transfer process and if this property is shared by all the photosynthetic systems and how this information can be apply to design high performant bio-sensors.To this end a comparison between Chlamydomonas cells ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering carrying both native and mutated D1 protein ( hosted in the PSII of the cell) has been undertaken using neutron scattering experiment.Some of these mutants displayed improved sensitivity and selectivity for different classes of herbicides.Results show that point genetic mutations may notably affect not only the biochemical proterties but also the T dependence of the whole complex dynamics describing a wild type system always more rigid than the les performant mutants.In addition, a complementary hydration water collective dynamics investigation reveal with a distinct sound propagation speed not only a more rigidstructure of hydration water than intracellular water but also of the native compare to the mutatant.Our results suggest a new direction of investigation and improvement of engeneering bio-sensor. P.012 Combining structure and dynamics: high pressure effect on the protein solution D Russo1, Alessandro Paciaroni2, Alessandra Filabozzi3, Maria Grazia Ortore4 and Francesco Spinozzi4 1 CNR-IOM, Italy 2University of Perugi, Italy 3University of Roma II, Italy, 4University of Ancora, Italy Unfolding processes are induced by pressures larger than 2Kbar, while non-denaturing pressures may modify protein interactions and affect the solvent arrangement around a protein surface. On these grounds, some new insights into the relationship between the protein dynamics and the properties of the hydration shell can be obtainedCombining small angle and inelastic neutron scattering experiments we have investigated the impact of high hydrostatic pressure on the structure and dynamics following particle-particle interactions, low-resolution structure and overall and local dynamics of protein solutions. At non denaturanting pressure the protein changes the protein-protein attractive interactions and the hydration water density. Theinternal dynamics shows a clear evolution from diffusing to more localized motions suggesting a correlation to the new first hydration properties. At unfolding pressure a slowing down of the relaxation time is accompanied by an increase of the protein dynamics contribution to picoseconds timescale. The increased solvent packaging around the protein percolates in the hydrophobic core promoting the protein unfolding. Hydration water collective dynamics investigations reveal a shift of the excitation of the low energy mode, whilst the position of the high energy excitation is not modified. A strong modulation of both modes is found. We support the hypothesis that not only the amount of water but also the structure of hydrogen bond network has a key role in the protein fluctuationsand transport properties. P.013 Nano-confinement tuning of biomolecules for bio-technological interest D Russo1, B Aoun2, M Gonzales2 and S Pechevloska2 1 CNR-IOM, Italy, 2Institut Laue-Langevin, France Individual biomolecules can be encapsulated, preventing possible self-aggregation, isolate some allosteric conformational states, protecting them from microbial degradation, and somewhere for drug preservation and delivery. Confinement can be achieved by the presence of other stable macromolecules or by the wall of a cage as silica matrix, pores or nanotubes. Molecular dynamics simulations have been used to study the confinement packing characteristics of small hydrophilic and hydrophobic bio-molecules [1] in carbon nanotubes (CNT). The self-diffusion coefficients and radial densities of confined peptides and water molecules were calculated. The results shown that in CNT with a diameter smaller than 15 Å, biomolecules can hardly penetrate. With a diameter of 20 Å, hydrophilic peptides fill the CNT quick and easily, and organize themselves in geometrical configurations which remind the confined water structural organization [2]. The hydrophilic peptides adopts a corona like structural organization with a thickness of 3 Å and a minimal distance from the CNT walls equal to 2Å. In this geometry all water molecules are segregated in the central part of the nanotube. The hydrophobic molecules converge slower into the CNT acquiring a different configuration always accompanied by water segregation. New opportunities for interesting applications such as intelligent drug delivery can be envisaged. [1] [2] D. Russo et al , JACS 133(13) 4882-4888 (2011), Chem Phys Letters, 517(1-3) 80-85 (2011). Kolesnikov A. et al. (2004). Physical Review Letters, 93(3), 035503. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.014 (invited) The spin-echo spectroscopy suite at the ESS M Sharp1, M Monkenbusch2, S Pasini2, R Georgii3, W Haussler3 and G Brandl3 1 ESS, Sweden, 2Forschungszentrum Jülich - JCNS Institute, Germany, 3Technical University of Munich, Germany Neutron spin-echo spectroscopy is the technique with the highest energy resolution for probing the dynamics of materials. It is used to study the slow dynamics in a variety of materials including soft matter, polymers, biomolecules, energy materials and magnetism. Typically the timescale is from picoseconds to several hundreds of nanoseconds over a broad Q-range. The European Spallation Source will be a long pulse source and aims to become a world leading neutron source by 2025. Work is underway to optimise the instrumentation for this new facility, including 3 potential concepts for neutron spin-echo spectroscopy. Here an overview of this instrument class and the scientific opportunities it will provide will be given. P.015 Structure and dynamics of myelin basic protein as a model system for intrinsically disordered proteins A Stadler1, L Stingaciu1, O Holderer1, A Radulescu1, C Blanchet3, R Biehl1 and D Richter1 1 FZ Jülich, Germany, 2Research Center Juelich, Germany, 3EMBL c/o DESY, Germany Myelin basic protein (MBP) is a major component of the myelin sheath in the central nervous system. MBP is primarily unstructured in aqueous solution and is considered as an intrinsically disordered protein under those conditions. From a biophysical point of view, the disordered protein can serve as a model system to study the physical properties of intrinsically disordered or partially folded proteins using scattering methods. Small angle X-ray and neutron scattering was measured of the protein in solution. For data analysis a large pool of coarse grained disordered structures was generated and a representative ensemble of structures could be selected. Dynamics of MBP in solution was measured using neutron spin echo spectroscopy up to 140ns. Rigid body diffusion and internal protein dynamics could be separated from the spin echo data. The disordered protein was found to be very flexible with relaxation rates of internal dynamics between 7 and 8 ns. Internal protein dynamics were interpreted using normal mode analysis. The observed dynamics could be related to collective bending and stretching modes with amplitudes of motion of a few Ångstrom. P.016 Influence of blocking agent on the structure and dynamics of ImmunoglobulinG L R Stingaciu1, R Biehl2, D Richter2 and M Ohl2 1 Research Center Juelich, Germany, 2Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH, Germany Antibodies are major components of the immune system. Representing approximately 75% of serum immunoglobulins in humans, ImmunoglobulinG (IgG) is the most abundant antibody isotype found in the circulation. It binds many kinds of pathogen including viruses, bacteria, and fungi, and protects the body against them. IgG antibody is a large molecule of about 150 kDa composed of four peptide chains. It contains two identical heavy chains of about 50 kDa and two identical light chains of about 25 kDa arranged in a typical Y-shape. The relative arrangement of the domains can be influenced by addition of ArgCl [1].Here we examine the structural changes and dynamics variations of IgG in a native state and under the influence of ArgCl.The low-resolution shape of the protein with respect to the configuration of the arms will be measured by Small Angle Neutron Scattering, Dynamic Light Scattering and Circular Dichroism spectroscopy as a prerequisite for later neutron spin echo measurements to observe the domain dynamics of the protein and the interplay with structural changes. [1] W.G. Lilyestrom, S.J. Shire and T.M. Scherer, J. Phys. Chem. B (2012), 116, 9611−9618. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering P.017 Dynamics of intrinsically disordered proteins probed with neutron spin-echo spectroscopy L R Stingaciu1, A Stadler2, R Biehl2, C Do3, D Richter2 and M Ohl2 1 Research Center Juelich, Germany, 2Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH, Germany, 3Oak Ridge National Laboratory, USA Intrinsically disordered proteins are proteins characterized by lack of stable tertiary and metastable secondary structure. Under physiological conditions these proteins can exist as isolated polypeptide chains or in partial disordered proteins disordered regions connect structured domains allowing a great flexibility. The metastable structure and accompanied dynamics is a key to understand structural transitions during binding to target, which can involve some residues or complete domains. The disordered protein Myelin Basic Protein can serve as a prototype to study the dynamics inside more complex disordered proteins and to understand their functionality. Here we examine the structure and dynamics of the completely unfolded Myelin Basic Protein in different denaturing environmental conditions. Neutron Spin-Echo spectroscopy has proven to be an excellent method to study domain motions of proteins up to 100ns [1, 2]. The unfolded chain dynamics (approaching the Zimm dynamics of polymer chains) can be accessed and identified. Residual order and correlations in the unfolded protein chain shall be investigated and quantified by measuring the deviations from the free polymer chains behavior. [1] [2] R. Biehl, M. Monkenbusch and D. Richter, Soft Matter (2011), 7, 1299–1307. R. Inoue, R. Biehl, T. Rosenkranz, J. Fitter, M. Monkenbusch, A. Radulescu, B. Farago, D. Richter, Biophysical J. (2010), 99, 2309–2317. P.018 Intrinsic mean square displacements in proteins D Vural1, H Glyde1 and L Hong2 1 University of Delaware, USA, 2Oak Ridge National Laboratory, USA The incoherent intermediate scattering function (ISF) and the mean square displacement (MSD) <Δ2(t)> of hydrated lysozyme (h = 0.4 g water/ g protein) are calculated from MD simulation of length 100 ns and 1000 ns. From the simulations, the simulated MSD <Δ2(t)> can be calculated out to t = 1 and 10 ns, respectively. The simulated MSD <Δ2(t)> remains a function of simulation time and does not reach a converged value at 10 ns. An intrinsic, infinite time MSD <r2> can be defined in terms of the ISF I(Q,t) as I(Q,∞) = exp[-Q2<r2>/3]. By fitting a model to simulated ISF, we obtain the intrinsic MSD. The intrinsic value obtained from the fit is the same for both simulation times. The intrinsic <r2> = <Δ2(t→∞)>/2 is typically 30 percent larger than the simulated MSD <Δ2(t)>/2 at t = 10 ns. The simulations of I(Q,t) and the above definition of < r2> provide a method of obtaining the long time value of <r2> from simulations. ICNS 2013 International Conference on Neutron Scattering