Michigan Engineering Colleges-Community Colleges Association
Annual Meeting Notes
October 19, 2012
Western Michigan University
We were welcomed by three Western Michigan University leaders:
Dr. Dunn, President
Dr. Keith Herit, Vice Provost
Dr. Osama Abudayyeh, Associate Dean Engineering
There were about 9 new attendees at this meeting.
Better organization description was suggested as “MEC-CCA” is not publicly recognized and
doesn’t appear in web searches.
Topic: Transfer Guides and Best Practice Policies regarding transfer students
WMU:
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Gen-Eds requirements were explained
(http://catalog.wmich.edu/content.php?catoid=18&navoid=632)
Suggested students should take 3 gen-eds upper course not 5.
Cover 8 gen-eds areas
Need input from Community Colleges to have credit transfers up to date
Comment: There’s an issue with students, they are not taking classes because those aren’t
transferable. There’s no standard as every department updates their own transfer equivalent
database.
Comment: Need guidelines for courses #s, some transferable courses are on upper level (3XXX)
but they could also be lower level (1XXX).
Reply: Renaming #s on courses is troublesome; bigger issue is to evaluate course
content between colleges.
Reply: Hard to control college ego when naming courses, maybe a solution is to compile
a group of same level courses to be used for equivalency and transferability between
colleges.
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Displayed and discussed Michigan Transfer Network (MTN) - It’s an administrative
problem to update both their own site transfer guide and MTN
Some go college by college checking if their transfer list is updated
Another problem could be students plan with current transfer policies, but they can
change after 4 years and is hard to do transfer equivalency, maybe credit qty was
changed and they have to repeat class to be transferable. Need to expand transfer
policies.
Some colleges base their transfer guides from WMU as they don’t have on their own.
But students are not aware of what’s transferable and don’t know what courses to take;
they need to contact their respective department and check annually for changes.
Admissions office shouldn’t do course evaluation; if it’s not in database they have to
check departments for transfer equivalency.
Michigan Tech worked on own interactive website transfer guide to show students
equivalent courses to many other colleges. (Transfer Guide, Transfer Equivalency
Listings); gave demo
WSU gave examples of their on-line transfer info.
UM-D and UDM had hand-outs
Transfer Resources for the Michigan Community College Student brochure distributed
created by MI Association of Collegiate Registrars &Admissions Officers (MACRAO)
ABET is too strict and is constantly evolving
Advanced Placement is not easily found even if its publicly available
Talked about Project Lead the Way (PLTW) as some universities grant credit
INSTITUTIONAL UPDATES
Wayne State University
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Regular Meetings with Community College Advisors
PDFs with transfer guidelines on web
29,000 students (Fall 2012)
2 engineering divisions (Engineering and Engineering Technology) with 1550 Undergrad
students, 880 Graduate students,
Work with MACRAO
Advisors work with students filling equivalency forms
Biomechanical, Computer Science, Electric and Mechanical Engineer are fastest growing
programs
In 2011 the College of Engineering experienced $21.8 million in research awards
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College of Engineering awarded $200k in scholarships
Transfer Equivalency: http://transfercredit.wayne.edu/
Oakland University
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Enrollments for transfers and first-time-in-any-college (FTIAC) have increased
Ground broken 2 weeks ago for a new engineering science building should be ready to
occupy by Fall 2014
Transfer guides are update yearly although OU may be going to Degree works
Upcoming Admissions:
Transfer Open House 10/23/12, 3/5/13
Engineering and Computer Science 2/2/13
Questions: Faculty advising, which schools require it? How enforced? Calculus based
Physics required? How many courses and who teaches it? How many Computer Science
programs require Physics?
Community College Partnership Programs with Macomb, Mott, Oakland and St. Clair
15,838 undergrads and 3,541 grads as of Fall 2011, more than 2400 were transfers
$35 million research expenditures for 2010
Transfer Equivalency: http://www.oakland.edu/transferequivalency/
o Issue with 4yr colleges not on 2yr
o Registrar office work with departments to keep guidelines updated
Schoolcraft College
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Entered 1st phase of accreditation process through AQIP. Data has been collected over
last 4 years, will serve as basis for future accreditation visits to determine key areas:
Communication, Technology, Mathematics, Thinking Critically and Creatively, Acting
Responsibly, Managing Information, Social and Cultural Awareness and Work
Cooperatively
CAD enrollment is up 60%, Engineering Enrollment is up 25% over this time last year
CAD classes: 5 sections with 24 students, will not cancel even if 1 student is attending
Business looking for grads in Design Programs with specific CAD skills is up. GM backed
off decision to only pursue designers with engineering degrees, meeting with Oakland
high schools and community colleges to spread word on skills desired
Increased articulation efforts with local high school to improve enrollment, freshman
college age population decreasing
Articulation with area Universities granting bachelor degree in Technology could use
more work
Lisa Z is creating Technical Math course to be used within Vocational programs
Working with Continuous Improvement Process in mind
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Transfer Equivalency: http://www.schoolcraft.edu/webadvisor/transfer.asp
Macomb Community College
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High demand for Mechatronics students, their supply cannot meet market demand
Product design area doing very good (various meetings with GM)
Media and Communication are doing good as well
Renewable Energy has very low enrollment
Transfer Equivalency:
http://www.macomb.edu/noncms/datatelinfo/courses/courseequiv.asp
Henry Ford Community College
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Have new science building
Mechanical Engineering enrollment has increased
Overall Engineering decreased by 1%
Transfer Equivalency:
http://www.hfcc.edu/admissions/transfer_students/transfer_in_agreements/
Westshore Community College
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Enrollment 10% down
~1500 students
Last year started early college agreement with high schools, 35/40 still in program
No online equivalency
Grand Rapids Community College
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Being challenged due to budget constraints, dropping classes for not meeting minimum
students (ex. Night math class cancelled, making it harder for working students)
Enrollment are steady, not dropping as predicted
Transfer Equivalency: http://cms.grcc.edu/student-records/transfer-credit
Michigan State University
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48,000 enrollment, down %
10 engineering majors
ABET accredited environmental – civil program
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Transfer Equivalency: http://admissions.msu.edu/transferguide/default.asp
Kalamazoo College
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Some colleges are dropping gen-eds but they accept students w/o problems
Providing double majors (ex. Business-Engineering)
No online equivalency
Eastern Michigan University
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Engineering Physics program established as 4yr major around 1984
48 majors currently enrolled
Pre-engineering program (same as first 2 years of Eng. Physics) as 18 students
Half students on both program transfer to Michigan-Ann Arbor, Oakland, Wayne State,
Michigan State, Detroit Mercy or Dearborn.
Other finish at EMU and seek local engineering employment and pursue masters while
working
Transfer/Articulation agreements with U of M-Ann Arbor, Detroit Mercy and Concordia
College
Building is being renewed
Lab fees are established (profit)
Enrollment increased due to better advertisement and recruitment
Transfer Equivalency: http://it.emich.edu/service/online/tranequiv/
Albion College
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Overall enrollment went down
Science and Engineering enrollment is steady
Struggle with accreditation as is not only course content what’s being evaluated
Problems with math and calc, potential students are not getting proper follow-up
Transfer Equivalency:
http://www.albion.edu/registrar/images/stories/registrar/documents/5-222012_UPDATE_TRANSFER_SPREADSHEET.xlsx
Kellogg Community College
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Buildings are being renewed with a One-Stop location being created
Have student development program
KCC-WMU dual enrollment
Math classes are full and offered every semester
Enrollment has increased
Transfer Guides: http://www.kellogg.edu/advising/colleges.html
Central Michigan University
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Overall enrollment is down
Engineering enrollment has increased (2nd year)
New Biomedical and Computer program under Engineering Department, looking for
ABET accreditation, ABET-accredited programs in mechanical and electrical engineering
Seeking ETAC/ABET for Engineering Technology
Work with Transfer Best Practices
MACRAO Agreement in place
Transfer Equivalency:
http://go.cmich.edu/academic_programs/undergraduate/transfer/Pages/What-WillTransfer.aspx
Saginaw Valley State University (also distributed handout)
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Total enrollment for Fall 2012 reached 10,552
582 transfer students, 1653 new first time students
All engineering programs are ABET accredited with 400 students in Fall 2012
Minor in Alternative Energy
Graduate program in Energy and Materials since Fall 2011
Students reports strengths of the program are hands-on experimental design projects,
small class sizes (10-25), individualized attention and friendly environment
Transfer Equivalency: http://apps.svsu.edu/transfer/index.php
University of Michigan – Ann Arbor
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Growth on enrollment and transfers (common application)
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Environmental program not under civil umbrella
Emphasis on Honors, Global Leadership and Research Programs
Thinking on holistic approach for transfer problems
Transfer Equivalency: http://www.ugadmiss.umich.edu/TCE/Public/CT_TCESearch.aspx
Monroe County Community College
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Nuclear Engineering Technology available
Renewable Energy Technology: Solar and Wind programs future uncertain
Future Bio-tech programs under way
Transfer Equivalency : http://www.monroeccc.edu/academicadv-transfer/transindex.htm
University of Michigan-Dearborn
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1000 undergrads, few hundred grads
Bioengineering program with 78 students
New housing under private companies for international students
MI’s only accredited software engineering program
$6 million in scholarships for engineers freshmen
Transfer Equivalency: http://webapps.umd.umich.edu/umdtrans/index.pl
Southwestern Michigan College
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New dean and dept. chairman
Grouped all majors in 3 clusters, advisors fill requirements checklist
Mind Trekkers and STEM activities\
Around 3k students (-10 % overall credit hours)
Math and Science classes are steady in attendance
Combined 2 calculus classes to match universities content
Overall facilities renovation and creation of new housing buildings
Engineering Technology program designed to ladder into 3 WMU programs (EDT, MFT,
UEM)
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Transfer Guides: http://www.swmich.edu/tac/michigan
Grand Valley State University
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Engineering: One year at CC – Four years at GVSU
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Computing and Information Science – Two years at CC – Three years at GVSU
School of Engineering awarded over $110,000 in scholarships for 2010-2011
Minors in Biomedical and Computer Science
Course work in Energy and Nanotechnology
Integrated BS and MS completed in 5 years with graduate assistantship supporting the
last 2 years and 4 semesters co-op
Recognized as Exemplar of Real World Engineering Education by National Academy of
Engineering
Co-op programs: over 100 students anticipated for summer 2013
New curriculum development in energy, particularly advance energy storage systems
School of Computing and Information System integrated internship program
Information systems projects: Non-profit, Computer Science: Video Game Development
Emerging Technologies: Computer information security Minor and Mobile Application
Development
Transfer Equivalency: http://www.gvsu.edu/studentapps/mtn/
University of Detroit Mercy (also distributed hand-out)
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New in Fall 2012: Bachelor of Robotics and Mechatronic Systems Engineering
New in Fall 2011: Bachelor and Master of Science in Software Engineering
Many minors: Entrepreneurship, Bioinformatics, Math, Leadership, etc.
5 years BS-MS Engineering degrees
Dual Grad Degree Program: M. Arch and M. Civil Engineering
Many scholarships available to transfer students
New College of Engineering and Science Dean: Dr. Gary Kleck appointed August 2012
Renovations to Chemistry building, completed Dec 2011
New Student Fitness Center, opened Sep 2012
Pre- college programs: over 2000 students between 4th and 12th grade on Saturday
classes, summer camps
Required Co-op Program, students graduate with at least 1yr of work experience
Largest Michigan Catholic University with approximately 5,500 students
Transfer Guides:
http://www.udmercy.edu/apply/undergrad_students/transfer_guides/index.htm
Michigan Technological University
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6,945 students (~60 less), 2,200+ undergrads living on campus
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College of Engineering + 2% enrollment. 790 freshmen, 4155 (+59) total, 782 grads
140 transfers (vs. 99 last semester)
Chemical and Mechanical program had big enrollment increase
144 women are freshmen, ~3% women in engineering
$300k towards female developments (leadership institute)
Started Engineering Management Program
Had over 280 companies on career fair hiring engineering students
42% of Michigan tech patents list students as inventors
Transfer Guides and Equivalency:
https://www.banweb.mtu.edu/pls/mtu/STU_TRGD_PROG_RPTS.P_APROGRPTS?pp_opt
ion=01
https://www.banweb.mtu.edu/pls/owa/mtu_transfer_detail.P_TRNS_INDEX