Report of GGF 14 Meeting, Chicago, 25-29 June 2005 OGSA-Authz Meeting

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Report of GGF 14 Meeting, Chicago, 25-29 June 2005
Report prepared by David Chadwick
OGSA-Authz Meeting
This was the first meeting that the author took over as a joint chair with Von Welch.
The status of the current deliverables was briefly discussed – the Attribute document is in
hands of GGF Editor, and the SAML profile document will be at end of WG last call at
end of this week.
Attention is now focussing on the next set of deliverables. David gave a presentation
about authorisation architectures in a multi-domain environment (the slide show is on
Gridforge site at https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13703?nav=1). It considered which
components are needed and how the target Source of Authority can remain in control of
the policy for access to its resources. The concept of a Credential Validation Service was
introduced to the group.
Frank Siebenlist gave a similar presentation but from a different viewpoint. This
considered asking remote domains (AAs) if they could help in the credential validation.
Dane raised the issue that if we need to have one network round-trip to each security
service then we have a major performance problem.
There was quite a bit of discussion about the correct way forward. No agreement was
reached, but it was recognised that we needed to constrain the problem space for the next
set of standards, since it will not be possible to standardise everything in the next round.
The meeting then discussed the Charter Revision to cover the next round of
standardisation effort. The first two paragraphs of the existing charter are OK for the
revised WG but the third paragraph onwards needs revising since it talks about a two
phased approach. It is recognised that more than a two phased approach will be needed,
since we are now in phase 2. It was agreed that this WG will be an authorisation
architecture group for OGSA even though its output will be aimed at a wider audience
than simply OGSA. It was also agreed to keep with the OGSA-Authz name for the group.
The tentative set of Output documents were agreed upon:
i)
a Scenario document which can be part of the Architecture document.
ii)
Version 2 of the PEP-PDP protocol document.
iii)
Version 1 of the PEP-CVS protocol
Implications for UK E-Science. We are still in the very early days of standardising a
replacement protocol for the OGSA Authz SAML profile. The latter is known to be
deficient (not least from experiments carried out by Richard Sinnott at Glasgow) but
there is no consensus yet as to what the replacement should be.
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