Agenda Item 3 STANDARDS COMMITTEE Minutes of a meeting of the Standards Committee held on 13 November 2012 in the Council Chamber, Council Offices, Holt Road, Cromer at 2.00 pm. Members present: District Councillors: Mr B Hannah Mr P W Moore Ms B Palmer Mrs H Thompson Mr P Williams Co-opted Members: Mr G Allen Mr A Bullen Mrs M Evans Mr H Gupta Mrs A Shirley Mr M Coates Officers in Attendance: The Monitoring Officer The Democratic Services Officer (ED) 1. TO RECEIVE APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Apologies were received from Mr R Barr, Mr A Nash and Mrs A Shirley 2. PUBLIC QUESTIONS None received . 3. MINUTES The Minutes of the Meeting of the Standards Committee held on 11 September 2012 were approved as a correct record. 4. ITEMS OF URGENT BUSINESS There were no items of urgent business. 5. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST None Standards Committee 1 13 November 2012 6. PARISH AND DISTRICT MEMBERS’ REGISTER OF INTERESTS AND OFFICER REGISTER OF GIFTS AND HOSPITALITY The Registers were open to display and were available for inspection in the Legal Services area. 7. NEW STANDARDS REGIME The Monitoring Officer informed the Committee that the new regime was now implemented in full. The Committee was meeting regularly and the Independent Person was assessing cases. The Monitoring Officer was working through the backlog of transitional cases and screening new cases. There were still some grey areas regarding the application of the DCLG Code of Conduct and there was ongoing correspondence to try and clarify the situation. The Monitoring Officer had recently attended a workshop for Independent Persons at Broadland District Council and it was intended that there would be more collaboration between Independent Persons across the region in the future and they would work together to establish the role. The Monitoring Officer suggested that it was time for the Committee to start focusing on standards training for district and parish councillors. There was still a lot of confusion regarding the type of complaint that could be dealt with by the District Council and it would be helpful if the Monitoring Officer and members of the Standards Committee could attend parish and town council meetings to explain the role of the Committee and provide further information on standards and conduct issues. Members discussed the update: 1. Mr G Allen commented that the previous standards regime had focused more on monitoring poor behaviour. From what he understood, the new regime seemed to place more emphasis on improving standards. The Monitoring Officer agreed. He said that the Localism Act stressed the importance of promoting and maintaining high standards of conduct for district and parish councillors. 2. Mr A Bullen sought clarification on the role of co-opted members of the committee. The Monitoring Officer explained that they were full members of the committee and were able to participate in debates but were not able to vote. It was intended that they would represent an external, non-council approach to standards issues. The Chairman added that she believed that co-opted members played a valuable part in the committee as they were able to provide a wider view on issues. Their participation would ensure that the committee was not just inward-looking. 3. Mr H Gupta queried his role as a co-opted member. He wasn’t sure how effective his contributions at meetings would be if he could not participate in the voting process and his views could therefore effectively be overruled. The Chairman reminded Members that there had been a full discussion about the role and value of co-opted members at the last meeting of the committee. Mr B Hannah added that he valued the input of the co-opted members. Mr P Williams agreed, he said that the co-opted members had been selected for their knowledge and skills. He felt that their neutrality was very important and the elected members should listen to their views and take them into account. 4. Mr A Bullen suggested that the co-opted members of the committee could undertake an assessment of the Standards Committee at some point to Standards Committee 2 13 November 2012 check that it was performing well. The Chairman replied that she had no problem with this. She felt that it was important for the committee to set a high standard and be prepared to take this forward on a wider basis. 5. The Chairman suggested that a panel of committee members could attend parish and town council meetings and offer help and advice on standards and conduct issues. Mr P Williams agreed that training was necessary but some parish councils may require more support than others. Mr P W Moore commented that he had attended the training session for Briston Parish Council and he felt that it had not been very productive. It was important that the Committee agreed on their role in advance so they could ensure that their input was effective. Mrs M Evans endorsed this approach. She said that the objectives of the committee should be robust and delivered in the right way. Mr M Coates added that it could be helpful to use scenarios to illustrate particular problems that could arise. Mrs M Evans added that although there were some councils that may need assistance quite soon, it should be offered to everyone. 6. Mr G Allen commented that it was important to remember that the Standards Committee was different to other committees. They could have an effect on the decisions being made regarding complaints and the input of co-opted members was vital. In many cases they had more knowledge and experience than elected members. The Chairman suggested that herself, the Monitoring Officer and the Independent Person worked together to come up with a training programme which they would then bring back to the committee for consideration. She asked members to contact her if they had any ideas that they would like to see incorporated. 8. COMPLAINT REFERENCES 148, 150 AND 153 The Monitoring Officer explained that the three cases all shared common characteristics – they all pre-dated the new regime and they had all been assessed and referred for investigation. In each case the Investigating Officer had not found a breach of the Code of Conduct. The Monitoring Officer had considered them in conjunction with the Independent Person and they agreed with the Investigating Officer’s findings. They were now coming before the Standards Committee for a final decision. The Monitoring Office advised the Committee that they were unlikely to receive cases in this form again. These were all transitional cases that predated July 2012. Members discussed the cases: 1. Mr P Moore asked whether the Monitoring Officer believed that the outcome would have been the same under the previous regime. He confirmed that they would have because although the current Code of Conduct was different, the process was the same. 2. Mr G Allen said that he agreed with the Monitoring Officer’s and Independent Person’s assessment of the cases. He was concerned that only a summary of each case was presented to the committee and felt that there may not be sufficient evidence for Members to make a decision. 3. Mrs M Evans said that one of the cases would make a good scenario to be used in training parish councils as it demonstrated how charities could Standards Committee 3 13 November 2012 cause issues for parish councils and how they had tried several different avenues to deal with the problem. AGREED To accept the findings of the Investigating Officer for each of the three cases. 9. STANDARDS COMPLAINTS The Monitoring Officer updated the Committee on the status of complaints received. He explained that the list provided information on all the ‘live’ cases. Members discussed the update: 1. Mr G Allen commented that Members needed to remain aware that the Committee could be used for other purposes such as resolving a personal dispute or grievance. The Monitoring Officer replied that there was a screening process in place that aimed to weed out such cases. 2. Mr A Bullen asked when cases were referred to the Independent Person for his input. The Monitoring Officer replied that he asked for his input when he felt that he needed an additional view. He explained that when no view was included with the case summary it indicated that the Independent Person concurred with the Monitoring Officer’s assessment. He said that he would ask the Independent Person to include a summary paragraph for all cases in the future. 3. Mr G Allen said that he felt it would be useful if complainants could provide information regarding their interest in making the complaint. The Monitoring Officer replied that this was potentially a difficult area as a complaint was not the ‘property’ of someone. He added that as part of the screening process he could ask for an explanation if he had any concerns regarding their motive for making the complaint. The meeting concluded at 15.17 pm ___________ Chairman Standards Committee 4 13 November 2012