Workshop on Interdisciplinarity in EU Studies, University of Bristol, 3 November 2006 Working with Biological Scientists: the EU dimension Notes by Wyn Grant, University of Warwick Our project Our project forms part of the RELU programme and is concerned with the environmental and regulatory sustainability of biopesticides. These offer alternatives to chemical pesticides and can be used as part of an integrated pest management strategy. The collaboration is with biological scientists at Warwick HRI. Key points to note from an EU perspective are: 1. EU approves ‘active substances’ or ingredients, national regulatory authorities approve products 2. Some national regulatory authorities are well resourced and experienced, others are not. 3. Commission admits that ‘mutual recognition’ is not working hence there is no internal market in these products. These are particularly serious shortcomings given that these products are typically produced by SMEs who face economy of scale problems. 4. Revision of 91/414 in progress, introduces concept of ‘eco zones’. 5. I am on steering group of EU policy action Rebeca which involves regulators, scientists, manufacturers and consultants. Why politics and biology can relate quite well My previous experience of interdisciplinary research was principally with economists. Links between biology and political science: 1. W J M Mackenzie’s classic Politics and Social Science has the first substantive chapter on ‘The Biological Context’. 2. Punctuated equilibrium models derived from biology. 3. Nature of political science as a junction subject with history of ‘tolerant eclecticism’ in UK – possibly too tolerant. 4. In so far as biology is concerned with adaptation to environment (e.g., EU as response to more interdependent world), there is a broad sense that that is also true of politics. 5. Heightened importance of environmental issues in political science creates new cooperation opportunities. 6. Methodological problems faced by two disciplines quite similar (elaborated below) 7. Similar collaboration with physics or chemistry might be more difficult whereas now embarking on two new projects with biologists. How we started work 1. Concern about possible partisanship – in fact real differences are between schools and theories/methodologies in both disciplines. 2. Read and presented articles from each other’s disciplines to develop familiarity with vocabularies and methodologies. 3. Discursive character of political science articles Similar methodological challenges 1. Categorisation issues – ‘lumpers’ and ‘splitters’ in biology 2. Both disciplines face challenges in terms of individualistic fallacy and ecological fallacy (although systems biology offers means of overcoming individualistic fallacy by aggregating data and use mathematical models) 3. Molecular genetics has resulted in proliferation of ‘bottom up’ science, failure to address broader questions, similar phenomenon in EU studies 4. Replicated, controlled experiments in biology, model plant (Arabidopis thlania), no model citizen. 5. Protocols in science less flexible than in semi-structured interviewing, also rhythms of planting, growing and harvesting offer constraints in plant sciences. 6. Both disciplines use the comparative method, comparisons between member states and between EU and USA, use of stimuli and responses in study of animals. What each side gains 1. Scientific research poses questions for regulators, e.g., species identity. 2. Need scientific knowledge to participate in what is a highly technical regulatory debate. 3. Scientists had a considerable amount of knowledge about policy networks and decision-making processes but had not put this in any systematic framework. 4. Biologists state that they have gained from more theoretical approach of political science, in applied biology more accustomed to identifying problem and looking for a solution. 5. Only social scientist in REBECA, but lack of political sophistication of biopesticides industry a real problem. Lessons for EU studies 1. Difficulties of cooperation between natural and social sciences may be exaggerated 2. Given regulatory tasks of EU, a real need for scientific and social science knowledge to be brought together. Visit our website http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/pais/biopesticides/