Minute Review/Change/Acceptance of February 20, 2008 Minutes DegreeWorks

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Steering Committee for Information Technology
April 1, 2008 Minutes
1. Minute Review/Change/Acceptance of February 20, 2008 Minutes – Minutes approved
2. Next Meeting – April 16 at 11 a.m.
3. DegreeWorks – A lengthy discussion was held concerning implementation of this software
tool for our students. CAPP, which is Banner’s version of degree checking is not considered to
be as decent a degree check software as DegreeWorks, as it does not allow the ‘what if’
scenarios. CAPP does provide for pre-requisite checking which is a feature our faculty wish to
use. We will need to implement CAPP whether we implement DegreeWorks or not. Mark
Wysoski with SunGard Higher Ed (SGHE) is still adamant that it will require at least 1.5 FTE
consisting of a programmer-type and someone from the Registrar’s office that is intimate with
the degree plans. V.P. Pinkston suggests there may be a possibility of hiring one FTE
professional for the Registrar’s office on soft money for a two year period to help with some of
the workload performed by Linda Phillips and Renee Roach. Linda will provide justification
information to V.P. Pinkston.
4. Online payment – The capability was made available on MyCU on March 31. Three students
used the link. One was successful and the other two had problems. Greg Duncan is working on
some additional notification features for the users and Business Office personnel. The Business
Office is hoping to receive some type of transaction report. ITS will need to review the best way
to make this happen – through ok.gov or locally.
While on the conversation of online payment, Debbie Goode mentioned they were discussing
alternatives to develop a way for students submitting their applications online to be extended the
opportunity to pay their application fees online as well. To create a charge was not acceptable to
Ninette Carter. Discussion regarding the possibility of not collecting and perhaps developing an
administrative fee to cover application and graduation fees was held. Debbie offered to contact
XAP to see if CU might contract with them to do some custom programming on their website.
5. Emergency notification stats for November 1 and March 11:
Results of Connect-Ed
11/1/2007
3/11/2008
Could not be readched at any number
Reached via answering machine
Received a live delivery
697
2,762
3,245
435
2,268
3,191
Total contact selected
Total unique deliveries
6,704
9,025
5,894
8,464
Successful deliveries
7,684
7,410
Answering machine
Live delivery
4,227
3,457
3,833
3,577
Unsuccesful deliveries
Bad phone number
Busy
Fax/modem
Hangup
No Answer
Undeliverable
1,341
384
44
85
18
794
16
1,054
39
31
32
0
950
2
Total unique deliveries
Total E-mails selected
9,025
10,042
8,464
9,515
Unique deliveries are the actual number of calls that are placed.
This number will be lowered by multiple contacts that share the same
phone number and raised by contacts that have more than one phone number.
All Physical Facilities employees are being setup to receive emergency notification as well.
This work will be completed soon.
6. SunGard Higher Ed (SGHE) Banner Update - The following employees visited
University of Central Oklahoma on March 3:
Kelly Simon, Julie Duncan, Casey Case, Rick Clyburn, Greg Duncan, Jennifer Bowen, Ninette Carter, Lance
Janda, Carol Claiborne, Hillary Ashton, Angela Melton, Chase Bailey, Linda Phillips, Kelli Peterson, Zoe
DuRant, Jennifer Castricone, Frank Meyers, Cheryl Davis, Kurt Jn Marie, Corlis McPhaul, Donald Hall, Laquita
Shaw, Debbie Goode
General
Julie Duncan:
ƒ They had two project managers: functional and technical
ƒ Took 2 ½ years for migration. Student part came up in March 2002 with registration in April.
ƒ “Integrated” basically means you’re passing data files back and forth. It doesn’t necessarily mean live data. In
fact, the data seen on Luminis can actually differ at times from what is in Banner. There is a process you can
run periodically to sync these two back up.
ƒ Addresses: Each migration team (student, HR, housing, alumni, etc) came up with the different types of
addresses they needed. The university wide cohort team then combined them into one list. They probably had
30 different address types they were tracking which included hometown, housing address from StarRez,
diploma address, billing address, local address, and many, many others.
Rick Clyburn:
ƒ A required first character of the unique identifying number should be carefully considered. UCO used an *
(asterisk), which is a wildcard character and was not a wise decision.
ƒ Regarding the first character of the unique identifying number, they use different identifiers to designate
students, vendors, lenders and employees.
ƒ A set of rules must be established to configure Common Matching Data.
ƒ Each functional area performs training for the campus.
ƒ They use third party software Clean Address by Runner Technologies to maintain proper address format.
ƒ Jan Douglas is UCO’s sole programmer that worked through the migration and is a wealth of information. She
offered to provide information for extracting data and putting in Access for miscellaneous claims. She
previously gave the same information to Tulsa Community College. Jan will be a valuable asset to CU’s IT
team. She will also be a good resource/lead for a state-wide Banner users’ group meeting and possibly
implementing a state-wide consortium of Banner reports that are Oklahoma specific.
ƒ UCO has several third party software applications.
ƒ They are using E-Vision (sp?) for printing, where CU purchased e-Print – we may need to compare the two
products
ƒ UCO has very few hard copy purchase orders
ƒ Pcard is the interface used for credit card purchases
Debbie Goode:
ƒ UCO is beginning to use Oracle’s Discoverer for a reporting tool
ƒ UCO started the Banner migration with 4 Sun servers and now have 35
ƒ UCO has one FTE for web services; 2 FTE for DBA and trying to hire a third one, but their salary is too low to
attract qualified applicants; 1 Unix system admin; 1 programmer; 2 trainers for all campus-wide training;
Banner training by IT is about 30 minutes long and the functional areas fill in the rest of the story. Each
functional area performs in-depth training for their specific areas. They provide handouts for new employee
training, which takes place every 2 weeks for Timekeepers. They have a training DB on a test system w/ an
older data base that has had the data ‘manipulated’ to protect privacy.
ƒ They offered to share a copy of their data entry standards and project definition.
ƒ Functional areas develop their own reports
ƒ If we have a bad trainer, it is very easy to request another
ƒ Students are using the Luminis e-mail and faculty/staff use Lotus Notes. They will more than likely be moving
from Lotus Notes to Exchange, due to the fact they no longer offer academic pricing and Lotus Notes only
offers corporate pricing.
ƒ Managers of functional areas approve requests for access and setup the users. The auditors are requiring them to
separate the duties.
ƒ Clean Address from Runner is invaluable for validating addresses – low cost and definitely worth the cost.
ƒ Regarding the deletion of duplicate entries of people, they advise against it. Simply flag the entry and change
the name to INVALID. Common matching has helped a lot.
ƒ They generally do not install patches. They keep upgrades current within 6 to 12 months.
ƒ Be sure to hound SGHE for details on steps and scripts for everything they do.
ƒ Within two months after implementation, bring in Banner expert to each functional area for consulting.
ƒ DO NOT perform any modifications to the software – pay Banner for any mods
ƒ Come up on ver. 8 if at all possible, even if it is beta. The beta sites have been running since January
ƒ The functional areas found they were working on Banner implementation from 8 to 5 and doing their regular
job from 5 until ??
ƒ E.C. must support that no requests are placed on any departments for the implementation period.
ƒ Send functional and technical people to Summit. UCO buys a package deal for 15
ƒ They are working on how to do updates without being down – they anticipate being down for 4 days when they
upgrade to ver. 8
ƒ UCO mainly had SGHE trainers on campus. They had some webinar training and they said it was not as good
as having the trainer in person. They thought it might be difficult to have all the training performed via
webinars.
Kelly Simon:
ƒ UCO uses ODS and Access for reporting.
ƒ The users contact Banner when they find problems with the system.
ƒ The ownership of Name and Address can be a multiple office function which will allow several offices to make
changes depending on the rules set up for each office.
ƒ UCO sets up rules to check for duplicates, but they still end up with duplicates in their system. IT does not
delete the duplicates because the records are in so many tables.
Chase Bailey:
ƒ When discussing reporting to outside agencies they put an emphasis on the preparation and care needed for the
UDS process. They also said they could not provide us with any source code they use for these processes
because they did not have rights to it.
ƒ They apply updates to Banner every 6 months to a Year. They have scheduled downtime for all systems one
Sunday every month from 5am - 10am. They said they did not apply the individual patches (UNLESS it was
for FIN AID) that were released every day, instead they waited for a minor version package to be delivered.
Upgrades to Banner would normally fall outside of the Sunday scheduled downtime and would have to be
performed on holidays, etc.
ƒ They use Procar(sp) for credit card charges. They also said they wrote the necessary interface.
ƒ They do not have any employees who use a screen reader.
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They use cron for job scheduling. They said our Appworx choice is a plus.
Banner Support. They said it really depends on Banners Support responsiveness. They said different modules
had different support individuals who would be better than others at troubleshooting problems.
ƒ User Setup process. They have setup custom roles in Banner that give the users access to certain forms (Banner
uses Oracle Forms). They suggested setting up our roles based on the department and maybe even the position
if needed. DBA's setup the oracle account/access.
ƒ Their Banner servers are running on Sun Hardware with Solaris 9 installed. They are looking to upgrade to
Solaris 10. I believe they were using oracle 10. They had 4 physical servers for Banner Databases/application
servers. Luminus ran on 5 different physical boxes but 2 of these boxes were for the Content Mgt. System
(CMS) which we did not purchase. They were using Banner 7.3 and Luminus 3.3. They backup the oracle
databases with RMAN.
ƒ Web Administrator was pleased with the e-mail system provided by Luminus and says after the initial setup she
has not had to bother much with it. She also said the e-mail admin for the campus was also the e-mail admin for
Luminus. They have added many custom channels to Luminus and indicated this process was fairly straight
forward. They use Active Directory and said Luminus also has an LDAP server that must be installed. They
said they create their Student accounts be setting them up in Banner, then when the user is being setup in
Luminus automatically, it also triggers another process to setup the students account in Active Directory. They
construct the username for students by first initial of first name, then last name. If they run into conflicts they
add numbers to the end of the username. They also seemed pleased with the integration of Banner and
Luminus.
ƒ One of the DBA's recommended that we hire a full time DBA.
ƒ They urged us to ask Sungard for the Data Entry Standards and the Project Definition Template.
ƒ In each department they employed one user who was very technically sound with Banner software so this
individual could assist the department with their needs. Each School also had its own Technician that would
assist with PC technical issues.
Linda Phillips:
ƒ Institutional Research was involved in setting up the validation tables.
Greg Duncan:
ƒ UCO is currently running Solaris 9 on their SUN systems and no Sun virtual hosts are currently in use.
ƒ ODS data updates at UCO will be done nightly. UCO just implementing ODS.
ƒ After ODS is up general reports will come from the ODS.
ƒ UCO uses TouchNet for credit card payments. Instead of UCO paying the high merchant fees the student is
charged an additional fee to pay for the merchant fee. So the University gets all their payment. Also accept web
checks for payment.
ƒ UCO uses the Banner connector for Lotus Notes and also WebCT.
ƒ UCO has been unsuccessful in creating their own custom Banner connector.
ƒ Using Internet Explorer 7 with Banner but have disabled add-ons to IE such as Google Toolbar.
ƒ UCO does not generate a directory from Banner.
ƒ UCO performs Oracle, Solaris, etc updates once a month on Sunday morning 5am to 10am.
ƒ Longer updates such as Banner that require a Saturday must be approved.
ƒ Not all Banner weekly updates are applied. Major Banner updates from 7.3 to 7.4 are applied. All financial aid
updates are applied.
ƒ UCO does not delete duplicates entries but sets a FLAG on the duplicate entry.
ƒ UCO uses a ProCard for purchases and has written their own interfaces to bring the information into Banner.
Also they do receive a file from credit card company for charges.
ƒ UCO does not have any employees using screen readers. Asked if Banner is
ƒ 508 compliant. Banner indicates they are but UCO has encountered web pages that are not. Tickets are turned in
on web pages that are not 508 compliant.
ƒ UCO IT is running Banner jobs in UNIX crontab. End users are not using cron jobs. Some areas run jobs after
5pm and come in early next morning to review the output of long jobs.
ƒ UCO not currently using OK College Start online application. Using flat files and re-entering data in Banner.
ƒ If problems getting Banner to resolve issues UCO goes to their account manager to escalate.
ƒ The self service does use https but not all items on page are using https.
ƒ Can remotely connect and work with Banner via VPN.
ƒ All reports come out of Institutional Research area.
ƒ UCO has three trainer positions. Trainers give instruction on basic navigation in Banner, PC Applications etc.
Sessions are given in each department on more in depth instruction on Banner by the department personnel.
ƒ There are two people that work with Luminus.
ƒ There are two DBA's.
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The Help Desk has four people: a manager, two techs that handle the phone calls, one tech that goes into the
field. No students workers are used.
ƒ Each school also has its own tech who is not part of IT and is a first line of support.
ƒ Barbara Anaman banaman@ucok.edu is the UNIX System Admin.
ƒ Corina Rucker crucker@ucok.edu is the Web Administrator for Luminus.
Kurt Jn Marie:
ƒ The university purchased a software package called clean address for making corrections to addresses in its
database. Clean address is configured to run every night so addresses that are entered incorrectly will be
corrected each night.
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HR and Payroll data that were migrated from the old system to the new system stated from the start (the starting
date) of the financial year. UCO currently does not have a standard method of merging data from their previous
system and the current system. The analysts create a report from the old system and a report from the new
system, and then merge the two reports. UCO cautioned that the further back Cameron University can go in
terms of migrating data into the new system from the old system, the better it will be for Cameron University.
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UCO is currently in process of implementing an Operational Data Store (ODS) system. They will be copying
data from the current system into the ODS nightly. Therefore, the newest data that will exist on the ODS will be
one day old.
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UCO uses TouchNet for the processing of credit card payments.
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TouchNet is also used for the e-billing of students. An e-bill is sent to the students via e-mail each time
necessary.
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UCO did not use the banner applicant tracking module. UCO uses PeopleAdmin for their employment tracking
system. PeopleAdmin has more features than the banner module. PeopleAdmin is a separate system from
banner. UCO uses Electronic Personnel Action Form (EPAF) as an interface between Banner and
PeopleAdmin.
Applications
Debbie Goode: UCO is using Banner’s application for admission. I said we are using XAP’s application and they said
they would like to do that as well and possibly consider not charging an application fee. The functional areas say the
Banner application is time consuming.
Data Migration
Debbie Goode: It is critical we ask Banner for the scripts and the steps for data migration so we can perform this for
historical data we want migrated.
UCO migrated 7 years of student data and transcripts older than 7 years are stored as .pdf files. They said if we can
convert all of it, to go for it. They migrated 3 years of financial aid data.
Cheryl Davis: They apparently did a LOT of data entry and said that several APIs were now available to assist with
this. Also, they mentioned “Common Matching” that is now in place to do some data checking to prevent duplicate data
from being entered. They use “Clean Address” by Runner Technologies to do validation checking on address
information.
Chase Bailey: Data migration took about 2 years; they came live in 02 I believe. They used the traditional
implementation so this was fast. Not many IT staff members that were part of the migration were still on staff currently.
They said that the staff in the functional areas and I believe IT staff had to complete their day to day work after hours.
They did not have dedicated staff for migration. They migrated student data from 7 years back. Their transcripts from
before this were put in an image format and kept. If a transcript is over 7 years old, and is needed the student’s data
would have to be manually entered into Banner. They also said that they had to pester SunGard for the migration scripts
and process documentation.
Institutional Research
Julie Duncan: No one from Institutional Research came from Cameron so I spent about twenty or thirty minutes talking
with Cindy Boling, UCO’s Institutional Research Director. They have two people in this department with a separate
assessment area with three people as well as a VP and a secretary. cboling@ucok.edu – 405-974-3342 www.ucok.edu/ir
Institutional Research is their one stop shop for all surveys and statistics. They do all of the IPEDS and UDS reporting as
well as the Common Data Set and all surveys including Petersons and U.S. News. This includes all areas of reporting in
addition to just student data – HR, facilities inventory and also financial assistance reports. The departments go to IR for
all of their numbers and IR is considered the final number even over enrollment management. In addition to the surveys
they do a demographics and fact book each semester and maintain yearly information for the departments called an
SSCI. When departments begin to do their five year assessments, all of the information they need can be found on IR’s
website.
Since UCO doesn’t have ODS yet, they are using object access views. There are several canned views that come with
Banner but they have many custom views that have been created including one that IR gets its weekly enrollment and
demographic data from.
IPEDS – Banner has some canned reports for HR but Cindy didn’t believer that anyone actually uses these. IR is
currently pulling all of the HR data manually since it’s difficult to figure faculty overload and all of the different ways
that people are considered adjunct. They hope at some point to move to a flat file. The student data they use is basically
what they receive from the Regents. They just review it.
UDS – They worked closely with IT to have this written and have the data pulled from the various places. IT sends them
a large excel file that has some blank columns that IR then fills in. Cindy is all for sharing this with us as she didn’t see
any reason for us to have to rewrite something that is already written. However, she said to check with Jan Douglas for
the program. We would obviously need to modify it to some degree as we may migrate our data somewhat differently.
For example, there isn’t a place in Banner for Oklahoma required data for tribal information (tribe and
maternal/paternal). She doesn’t know what field they decided to stick this in but we may put it in a different place. One
thing she cautioned about deciding what history to bring over was to make sure all of the UDS data is converted.
Somehow they forgot to convert originating state, county and city. Six years later, they are still reporting about 15% of
the students as unknown for this as they don’t have the data on these older students.
Debbie Goode: Regarding sharing their coding for UDS and they stated it is not exactly in a ‘shareable’ state. There is
more clean-up on their part, as they said it is a work in progress.
Julie Duncan: Census Day data – They have seven object access views that they snapshot this data from about four
times a semester. This data is copied to an MS Access Database. Because of the amount of data, they are only able to
store one semester per database. Some of the census views she mentioned were: 1) by student – one record per student,
2) by class – one record per student per class, and 3) gpa records. They do all of their reporting for the surveys from this
data so that all reporting has the same numbers. When she pulls the info into her excel reports or other reports, she will
keep the banner field titles in all caps (STU_ETHNIC) and her manipulated data field titles in lowercase (inst_fte). This
way she is able to quickly identify where the data originated.
Cohort Data
Julie Duncan: She indicated about half of the Banner schools are using the cohort management part in Banner. UCO
creates excel files of their cohorts based on the census files and then comparing them to the UDS info (which should be
the same.) The final cohort is saved each semester. Then they do queries against those students typically using the census
day files.
Debbie Goode: The IR person needs to be involved from the very beginning to ensure all necessary data is captured for
necessary stats. Cindy suggested if Tom Sutherlin is retiring, CU should hire his replacement and let them work with the
Banner implementation.
Registrar’s Office
Julie Duncan
Term Codes – Using the full year of the academic year, plus 10, 20, or 30 to indicate the term:
200810 – Fall 2007
200820 – Spring 2008
200830 – Summer 2008
I can’t remember exactly, but I’m thinking they also had some that were like 200815 which would be for things like
transfer work that came in under a full academic year or maybe that was for an intercession between Fall and Spring.
Linda might remember more on that.
UCO referenced it and I just saw it in a message from the ODS listserv. It sounds like Banner has different terms:
Enrolled = eligible to register
Registered = actually in classes
Not sure how you get to the eligible to register point but perhaps it's similar to our current process of active vs inactive.
So basically enrolled will mean has been active within the last year. Registered students are the ones active this semester.
Deficiencies
Julie Duncan: UCO has already paid for a screen to track deficiencies. The screen had ACT and CPT scores as well as
one spot for SAT. It had an area on the bottom left for deficiencies based on testing and a place in the bottom right for
tracking curricular deficiencies. This screen also is where they limit the student to a certain number of hours regarding
enrollment. This is not part of baseline Banner and they are paying maintenance on this. Paul said to make sure that
Banner doesn’t charge us for this because it’s already been written! I didn’t quite understand all of this, but I believe
their deficiencies work with programs they’ve written behind the scenes to update the deficiency info but it’s also done
with a type of stamp of approval. For example, if they’ve met all of the prereqs, then they can manually put this stamp on
before the transfer work is entered and then they are allowed to enroll in the class. I may be confusing some of this with
how they do prereqs as that is the same concept. We’ll probably need to get more information on this.
Debbie Goode: Every time this piece of coding requires an update, UCO must pay extra maintenance to have the update
installed, so this will be true for CU as well.
Kelly Simon: UCO paid Banner to develop the SZADEFS screen (see screen shot below). UCO said we should have
this screen included in our software without purchasing it. They use this screen for the Rose State 0-level courses which
are taught by Rose State on the UCO campus. UCO runs processes to update the Performance Deficiency fields and the
overall max limit field. The ACT and CPT exams also affect the Performance Deficiencies, as do college level courses
and manual updating. The Registration screen interacts with the Overall Max limit field to stop students from enrolling
when they have reached the max. The screen below can be overridden to allow the student to enroll. I’ve attached the
functional specs document UCO built with SungardHE when installing Banner.
Retention GPA
Julie Duncan: They’ve tricked Banner into doing this and we will definitely need more info. It sounded like they
modified the HTML code for the online transcript to recalculate the GPA for this. Banner’s overall GPA includes
repeated classes. Banner stores four GPA’s and UCO needed five.
Articulation
Kelli Peterson: I sent most of the day with Julie Byer, (Senior Articulation Analyst Enrollment Services) talking about
the Articulation portion of Banner. We spent some time looking at the actual articulation portion of Banner and talking
about how their office is performing the actual task of articulation. Julie provided a copy of the Fundamentals of
Articulation Processes Procedure Manuel.
The manual she provided has actual step by step on how to:
• SOABGTA – Set up Institution in SOABGTA
• SOISBGI – Searching for Institution ACT Number
• SHATATR – Entering An Articulation in SHATATR
• SHATATR – How to Look Up AN Articulation
• ARTICULATION FORMS
- Undergraduate Articulation/Exception Form
- Form Letter to Dept. Chairs
- International Evaluation Form
Grading and GPA
Julie Duncan: The GPA is built using a program similar to SBI’s SAR12. Students aren’t able to see grades until they
have been rolled to academic history, but after they are rolled then changes to the grades can’t be made. During the final
grading period, UCO rolls their grades frequently to allow the students to see their grades during this time. Students are
typically the ones that catch incorrect grades. They then have a behind the scene SQL processor IT wrote that erases the
info so the instructor can then re-enter the correct grade while grading is still going on. Once grading is closed, all grades
are rolled a final time and the GPA calc processor is run. Any grade changes after that have to go through the paper chain
approval process. The GPA calc processor can be run based on criteria which may include a single student.
Kelly Simon: IT is not involved in Grade Processing. It is all done through the Registrar’s Office with 5 processors.
They were happy to have that ownership.
Transcripts
Julie Duncan: The baseline Banner transcript is not chronological. It prints all of the transfer work first and then all of
the university work – all in order as it is entered into the system. UCO’s online transcript has been rewritten to be
chronological (Jan Douglas). They have a request to have their printed transcript to be done this way as well but it hasn’t
been completed. Paul expected this to probably be something along the lines of writing the data to temporary tables,
sorting it, and then outputting it using E-Visions.
Debbie Goode: CAPP performs the pre-req checking, so we will have to bring CAPP up even if we go with
DegreeWorks. This is confirmed with SGHE as well. CAPP does not have the self-service module like DGW offers.
They suggest we implement pre-req checking for science and math and try it for one year and then select other areas for
pre-req checking. Felt the phased-in approach is easier to support.
Kelly Simon: The students are not using CAPP because UCO does not feel comfortable with the software. When they
receive software updates, it causes defects in the system. UCO suggests we implement course prerequisite checking
early in the migration process.
Linda Phillips: This was the first time instructors entered their grades so it was a new process for them. We’re ahead of
the game on this one since we already have that option.
At the end of the semester, grade processing is done in the Registrar’s Office and takes about 30 minutes. There are 5
people involved in the process.
1. Grades are rolled and made available on the web. Grades are rolled two times a day during the grading
period so students can see their grades and contact instructors if there are errors. Grades can be corrected by
instructors during this period.
2. The GPA roll process runs
3. Probation/Suspension/Dean’s-President’s honor roll process runs (takes about 15 minutes)
4. Misc. processes. (They didn’t mention what).
Transcripts are not in chronological order. (This is a problem.). Classes are listed as they are entered.
Students can print their own official transcripts from a computer located in the lobby area of registration.
Greg already have a plan for this.
Julie and
Graduate Honors
Julie Duncan: They changed their graduate honors to GPA based only fairly recently but they couldn’t remember if they
used Banner as an excuse to make this change or if it happened earlier. They run a process to get the students outputted
to an Excel file and sort them by GPA then post the honors manually.
Non-Banner Graduation Items just of general interest
Julie Duncan: They have a grand marshall for each college which is the person in that college with the highest GPA.
Highest cumulative hours and then most UCO hours are used as tie breakers to bring it down to only one person per
college. That person gets to lead the college in the commencement ceremony and it is recorded on their diploma. They
have two commencements: one in May for spring and summer grads and one in December. They charge $35 for a
graduation fee and then a $25 late fee. They have a filing date of November for spring graduation, February for summer
graduation, and June for Fall graduation. They wait until after the enrollment schedules have been released so that
students will be able to see what they can enroll in to make sure they will be able to graduate before filing. After these
dates, a late fee is assessed but students can continue to file until the regents date cutoff. Having the date so early gives
them more time to do all of the degree checks and contact the students if there is going to be a problem.
CRN = class sections. The term “section” in Banner means something else.
Displaying Enrollment Schedules
Julie Duncan: The baseline banner schedule display doesn’t include comment info like pre-reqs for the class, additional
fees, or course catalog information. Most schools are then having a separate place on their webpages where they post a
flat file once or twice a day that has all of the information in one place. They still print a few schedules but it is done
with pdf files by their print shop. A student who wants a printed schedule goes to the print shop and pays $7 for a
complete schedule or a smaller amount if they only want the pages in front of the schedule with the general information.
Not too many students do this. I believe he said they’re printing less than 200 copies now.
Creating the enrollment schedule
Julie Duncan: When UCO went to Banner they changed to having the departments enter all of the classes instead of the
Registrar’s office. This seems to have worked well for them. For the first year in Banner the departments had to enter all
of their classes. After a year’s worth of data had been entered they began to roll their schedules each time. They roll
corresponding semesters (e.g. Fall 2007 to Fall 2008, Spring 2007 to Spring 2008) so that if a department has basically
the same classes each fall, then they already have 80% of their classes already entered. At the beginning, they rolled
everything using Banner’s roll process. Now they allow departments to select what elements they do not want included
in the roll (e.g. instructor, building and class, etc.). Paul/IT worked together to write an SQL procedure that goes out and
deletes the information they didn’t want rolled after running the Banner process. This custom process also updates prereqs and catalog information from the current catalog rather than the rolled catalog as the info from the Fall 2007 catalog
may have changed since then. When departments are entering the classes, the system does facility and time checking. If
there is a conflict then Banner indicates the CRN that has the conflict. They do not use Schedule 25 or any other software
except Banner. Having the departments enter the information has cut down on the time it takes for them to get the
enrollment schedule ready. For the Fall 2009 schedule, Paul rolled the data in January and the departments were finished
in February. Students are able to see the schedule at least a month before enrollment actually opens.
Clearinghouse
Julie Duncan: This works fairly well with Banner except they added an SQL program to put an attribute on students that
shouldn’t be included (e.g. aren’t really enrolled but just have an enrollment record built so Banner counts them as
enrolled or they are missing the SSN). They can then run the Banner clearinghouse report using this attribute as part of
the parameters to exclude.
Probation/Suspension/Honor Rolls
Julie Duncan: They use Banner’s process to post the information to the student’s record. However, they’ve built object
access views to export the list of student’s to then run reports and letters.
Registration
Julie Duncan: Permission required/overrides are available via the web. If the person doing the override goes through the
Banner form to do it, then the username is recorded. If they use the Web override form, it just records WWWUSER.
Permission can be given for a particular CRN or for a course so that they can choose any CRN available for that course.
All enrollment transactions are recorded including errors received. There is a 2000 limit per student which they have
reached at times.
Online Registration
Julie Duncan:
ƒ Their advisors can do enrollment but prefer not to and typically do not. All registration is done by the students
or by the registrar’s office.
ƒ They have terminals and printers set up in a lobby area where students can come to register if they wish. Often
someone from the registrar’s office will walk around in this area and help if there are questions. (Note, this area
also had a terminal that students could come and enter their id and password and get an official transcript
printed without having to go to the registrar’s office. The printer attached to that computer is loaded with
official transcript paper. This gets rid of a lot of their traffic.)
ƒ If students have questions, they will call the IT helpdesk which resolves their issues most of the time but
sometimes passes them on to the registrar’s office.
ƒ First-semester students are put on a hold that prevents them from registering until they have seen an advisor.
Once they have been advised, the faculty member has access to the holds screen and removes them from the
hold thus allowing the student to register. (They don’t actually delete the hold but rather enter a date range that
makes it inactive. This keeps the history of the holds in place.) The student is encouraged to ask questions of the
advisor for the rest of their academic career but they are not forced to. The student is basically on his own after
this point and can register for whatever classes. They haven’t had an issue with this.
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They have prerequisite checking with a system that allows overrides by calling the
department/school/instructor. We don’t have this and this will be a critical issue with online enrollment by the
students.
Debbie Goode:
ƒ They migrated 7 years of student data. The older transcripts are stored in another database in .pdf format.
Kelly Simon:
ƒ 90% of their students enroll online. They have it set it up by number of hours so that 250 – 300 students can
enroll during a set block of time over 12 days.
Linda Phillips:
ƒ They did a mock registration about a month before they went live with student self-enrollment. The first
semester of self-enrollment, about 50% of the students used that service and now 90% enroll themselves.
ƒ They did not implement course pre-reqs at first. They phased them in one department at a time. Business and
math departments were first. (It’s all or nothing on the pre-reqs). Sometimes the pre-reqs had to be changed to
work with the system. ??? (Don’t recall
ƒ the specifics on this.)
ƒ When enrollment opens for a given semester, they have 4 time slots assigned for each classification, 5 a.m., 10
a.m., 3 p.m., 8 p.m. Students with 130-140 hours enroll first beginning at 5 a.m.; 129-115 hours begin at 10
a.m., etc.
Chase Bailey: Their online course software was WebCT and it was integrated into Luminis. They said there are
connectors provided by SunGard for WebCT and Blackboard. SunGard performed this configuration for them.
Student Housing
Julie Duncan: Housing is on third-party software called StarRez. (Talked to Casey regarding this and he had recently
been to a conference and spent quite a bit of time talking to this vendor. It took UCO about a year to bring this up and
they will completely on it this May. It includes a judicial section which he and Jennifer Pruchnicki are interested in.
Banner doesn’t include anything for disciplinary. Housing in Banner only consists of a few screens and is very basic,
thus the need for third-party software. Casey seemed to think it would probably be a good idea to come up on Banner
and then look at StarRez rather than trying to bring them both up at the same time. He has already had a lengthy
discussion with Pat about no longer using their Access program.)
Casey Case: The student housing personnel at UCO had the following to say about their transition and the use of
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Testing is vital. Staff must be committed to testing and given an amount of testing that should be done daily.
UCO actually tracked the amount of time that staff was in the system doing testing.
Going to the Summit conference can be helpful. Although there is very little at Summit specifically for housing,
learning the student module and making good contacts can make the transition much easier.
There are several Banner listservs that can be helpful in answering questions.
When billing, Banner uses several types of dates. The “Effective Date” is the most important because it
determines what amount due shows up on the student’s account.
It would be a good idea to go ahead and get a Banner manual to begin to get familiar with the system.
Before doing anything live with Banner, all of the pricing tables should be written for every charge in housing.
Otherwise, it can cause problems later on. Also, the pricing tables must be re-written every year.
UCO’s housing department did not have anywhere near the functionality that they needed in a system from
Banner, so they have added a third-party system known as StarRez that will help manage all of their housing
operations. I plan to go back in the near future to take a look at that system as well.
HR
Debbie Goode: Buy People Admin – it is inexpensive and worth every cent
Financials
Rick Clyburn: Vendor data was manually entered
Debbie Goode: Student A/R rolled for the past 7 years and the older data is stored in Excel.
They use Touch Net for tuition and fee payments. It handles credit cards and checks online. The credit cards go through
Touch Net and there is a percentage the students must pay for this service – was it 2.5%??? The checks online go
through UCO and there is no charge for the checks online, and this is popular with the students. They can send electronic
bills through Touch Net.
They have the coding done to send info for the claims records to the OSF and shared with TCC and will be happy to
share with CU. They extract the data into Access and FTP to OSF.
Cheryl Davis: Do you use a credit card for purchases instead of a Purchase Order? If so do you receive a file from the
credit card company indicating the charges for the month and how do you process this file for payment? They do receive
a file from the credit card company and I believe they said they have a an interface for processing this.
Financial Aid
Angela Melton: Carol Claiborne and I met with Sheila Fugett McGill, Director Financial Aid
IT person in the FA Office – Becky – responsible for the ISIR process, POP selects (queries), Pell, SMART,ACG file
transfers to DOE, etc.
Data Migration- UCO migrated 3 years of data (federal requirement to have at least 3 years). CU has a 5 year minimum
for the 2002 migrated. Financial Aid may need to verify this. UCO Financial Aid went live in March 2002 with the new
aid year (2003). The old system stayed up to complete the prior year (2001) ending in October 2002. Sheila said it was
difficult processing aid for two years in two different systems, but they survived. Sheila mentioned that I would need to
get with Jan Douglass for details of the data migration. Jan said no matter what they tell you Financial Aid data must be
migrated. You will have to be persistent. I plan to contact Jan to get details of how the data migration was
accomplished.
SAP Processor – UCO has the Banner SAP processor working. Jan and Sheila spend substantial time and effort over a 2
year period to set it up and get it tuned. It is now working with only a few exceptions. UCO had to make some SAP
policy changes.
OTAG- initial awarding can be done with packaging rules during setup. Jan would like info on CU OTAG Award Claim
program.
Tracking - UCO does this in batch, CU currently does automatic tracking. Banner will probably do automatic tracking.
FA office has no manual student data files - imaging is used for everything. UCO has a full-time person responsible for
imaging (not just FA) and has 5 student workers. This person reports to the student services, but is currently housed in
FA.
Letters – Award, Tracking, etc. All FA letters are emailed. Using MS Total Access Emailer. A few student specific
letters are mailed.
Scholarships & Awards – Federal awards are setup as Funds. Scholarships, waivers and other awards are setup as
Resources. Analyze this before deciding on setup. If an award is setup as a Resource the enrollment checking and other
features will not work. Fund area anything paid in increments will not work (month payments).
UCO disburses funds to the student after the semester starts.
UCO has book charges.
Enrollment Online – Summer & Fall cannot be turned off by term (it’s by year)???
UCO has system managers from each area that meet to communicate and manage how processes impact other areas.
Carol Claiborne:
• We already complete the entire process of bringing ISIRs in from the processor. A portion of the process at
UCO is done by IT. We will still be able to complete the process in our office with Banner. We spent quite a
bit of time on this subject.
• UCO uses optical imaging for all their files. No paper. I hope we can eventually do that.
• UCO has automated Satisfactory Academic Progress which will be wonderful if we can get it to work.
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The return of Title IV funds is automated at UCO. Currently we manually calculate all Return of Title IV
funds.
All the letters from the Financial Aid Office at UCO are run through Banner. Each letter is tracked in Banner.
When talking to students the staff knows when each letter was sent. This would be very helpful.
The majority of correspondence with students is done through e-mail. This year new students to UCO will
receive a letter in the mail explaining e-mail correspondence. The savings in postage, paper, envelopes and
staff time is significant.
UCO’s OCR and Tuition Waiver reports are done through the Institutional Research Office not Financial Aid.
Student workstudy wages are automatically updated from Payroll to aid awards. We currently manually post
wages earned once a year.
With permission from the other areas, the Aid office has the ability to view information from other offices
(Registrar, Admissions, Business Office). This could be very beneficial.
Training
Cheryl Davis: You indicate on your webpage that you require a training session on navigating Banner before a person
receives their login information and another required training for Timekeepers.
How are these training sessions conducted? They have a trainer that does basic training for Banner navigation (approx 30
minutes). During migration they had 3 full time trainers, now there is just one person. I wasn’t clear on how much
training that person does within the departments or if each department has someone else also.
Is it just one on one as logins are requested? Every two weeks in depts.? Does IT do most of the trainings? Departments
do their own training.
Chase Bailey: It is a basic overview training giving the user enough information to run the software and login. They
leave the fine grain detail of the training up to the users in the Department. They said it was important for the user in the
department to keep documentation of their job duties.
User Setup
How do you deal with user management and setup of logins? Banner comes with some standard roles, but those have to
be customized and added to. Their normal setup is not a standardized approach. The approvals are handled by the
department or owner of the data. There was some ‘pointing’ to their heads and saying the process was not on paper. I
never did get a clear answer on how they track a user’s access.
Chase Bailey: They did not have an automated electronic workflow process for setup of logins. They are still requesting
login access with a paper form. They did say they delegated the Payroll/Finance department privileges to setup
permissions for their own users within Banner.
Cheryl Davis: Is there a workflow process that includes the required trainings? Not standard
ODS
Julie Duncan: They are currently in the middle of bringing up ODS and Discover. They had training on Discover last
week and will have ODS training three days this week.
Debbie Goode: The IR should be the lead on development. Their IR came in just as they were implemented. Many data
elements are not available because no one knew what IR might need for reporting purposes and has to respond w/ data
‘not available’ on some items on surveys.
They run nightly stores to ODS and use it for daily reporting. ODS is not a mirror of Banner. 80% of Banner is in ODS.
CU must be sure to ask for technical ODS training.
Cheryl Davis: Discuss data-warehousing (EDW) and operational data-store. They are in the beginning stages of setting
this up. They intend to use these two entities for the majority of reporting purposes.
Chase Bailey: They are currently in the process of implementing the ODS. They did not purchase the EDW. ODS and
EDW will reside on a server together and will be 2 instances of oracle. The ODS will contain about 80% of the data in
the Banner database. They said SunGard performed all of the mapping of the data from Banner to the ODS and said that
if we need more data added to this mapping to get with SunGard during this process. The data will be structured in the
ODS in such a way that it eases the reporting process for the end user. They are planning on refreshing the data from
Banner to the ODS 1 time a day but this may increase. I assume the refresh process could be performed often since the
process would only need to copy changes since the last refresh in the Banner Database tables and would not be a full
import.
Building/Room Inventory
Debbie Goode: They are using FAMIS now and they do not recommend this software.
Change Management
Debbie Goode: Establish a business process team to evaluate all processes and identify the processes that need to be
changed. Start that now.
Make the university e-mail address an official record of notification
UCO is almost paperless
Cheryl Davis: Do you generate a campus employee directory from Banner? They don’t but said there is an option to do
it.
Is your online course software integrated into Banner? Yes – they use WebCT and it works nicely
Banner seems to have updates available on a weekly basis. Can you discuss your procedures for updates including
scheduling and frequency? They have scheduled down-time, one Sunday morning a month for any updates that are
planned. They do FINAID updates when they come out. Also, tax updates are done as they are made available.
Do you have any employees who successfully use a screen reader (e.g. JAWS or Window Eyes) with the Banner
products? No
What do you use for job scheduling? They use Kron for anything they schedule, but the users do most of their own job
scheduling. We purchased Appworx.
When you have problems with the software, is Banner quick to fix these issues? They are quick to “assist” with
problem/errors, but not so quick to handle software fixes.
Please share about the process for setting up users to use Banner software. There is no set process. They must not have
the turnover that we do.
NO-NOs:
Be careful about implementation dates for each module
Don’t be without a good reporting tool
Don’t put an ‘*’ in the first character of the Banner ID
Be careful about setting up vendor ids/lender ids
The trip was very successful and the networking with UCO’s personnel will be invaluable as CU progresses through
migration. Future visits on a department by department basis will more than likely be requested.
Update by V.P. Pinkston regarding EduServe and SGHE professional services – He
has the professional contracts on his desk and needs to review and sign them. He feels
certain we will begin this fiscal year.
Equipment on order – Debbie reports the vendor feels confident with a mid-April
delivery. Work orders for venting the APC rack and providing electrical service to the
rack are in Physical Facilities queue. Darren Penn with SGHE has also been notified.
7. R23 - attachment
a. CAM0089 – Request from Miriam Hernandez for various reports/queries from
database for prospective students. Julie Duncan will perform the work. Estimated
time is 24 to 32 hours. Steering Committee approved.
b. CAM0090 – Request from Brenda Dally to consolidate two scholarship applications
into one and modify the scholarship portion on the web. This will be positively
received by students and serve as a major benefit to Admissions and Financial
Assistance. Julie Duncan will perform the work. Estimated time is 32 hours.
c. CAM0091 – Request from Linda Phillips for two kiosks for students to print
transcripts. This will be viewed as a positive offering by students. Greg Duncan will
perform the work. It was suggested if a LJ exists that will notify user of low toner
and paper status to look into purchasing the LJs. Physical Facilities will build the
specially designed enclosure for the laserjet that is lockable and will allow the student
to retrieve their transcript. Estimated time is 60 hours. Steering Committee approved.
8. Construction of Student IDs - Jennifer Holland received input from the Student
Government Association (SGA). The proposal was signed by Jeff Wozencraft, CUSGA
President; Tobias Kuhn, CUSGA Vice President and Jessica Daoang, CUSGA Treasurer.
They voted in favor of a change in the student e-mail address to eliminate the use of the
student I.D. in student e-mail addresses. SGA proposes construction of student e-mail
addresses to be:
firstname.middleinitial.lastname@cameron.edu. John Albert Smith will be
john.a.smith@cameron.edu. If the student does not have a middle initial or name, then the email will be: john.smith@cameron.edu. For duplicate e-mail addresses, it is proposed
john.a.smith1@cameron.edu. ITS can accommodate SGA’s proposal. Steering Committee
will vote on this at the May 21 meeting.
9. Any other topics for discussion?
a. It is requested we review University Forms for occurrences where social security
numbers are required on the forms and determine if fac/staff ID number might be
substituted. The Request to Travel form requests SSN. Ninette stated for all first time
travelling fac/staff, the State requires SSN. After the first travel request, fac/staff ID
number will be fine. Debbie will look at forms.
b. It was mentioned it would be nice for parents to have access to review information
allowed by their children to pay bills, etc., given appropriate permissions are granted
by student. This will require research for external logins.
Task Lists
Linda Phillips
Ninette Carter
Debbie Goode
V.P. Pinkston
Debbie Goode
Debbie Goode
Debbie Goode
Debbie Goode
Debbie Goode
Debbie Goode
Provide justification for full-time employee to perform daily tasks for Linda
and Renee during Banner implementation.
Work with ok.gov and Greg Duncan to fine tune online payments.
Follow through with the setup of Physical Facilities employees for
emergency notification.
Sign contracts for professional services so Banner migration may begin.
Follow through with Physical Facilities for venting from APC rack and
power for the Sun equipment.
Follow through with Versatile to be sure all equipment is received and
installed for Banner installation.
Follow through with Darren Penn to schedule Banner installation.
Give R23 forms to Greg Duncan and Julie Duncan.
Investigate more re: student e-mail construction
Review University Forms for SSN
Debbie Goode
Explore possibilities of visitor logins to SBI.
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