CHABOT COLLEGE
Curriculum Committee Minutes
October 12, 2004
Members Present:
Alla Barbalat (ASCC), Desmond Chun, Cindy Hicks, Gayle Hunt, Diana
Immisch, Bill McDonald, Lupe Ortiz, Dan Raveica, Patricia Shannon
Ex-Officio
Members Present:
Edna Danaher, Denise Noldon, Patricia Posada
Guests:
Nolly Ruiz, Steve Small
I.
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 2:05 by committee chair Cindy Hicks. She announced
that Gayle Hunt is the new representative from the Language Arts Division. Alla
Barbalat will be representing ASCC.
II.
Minutes of October 5, 2004
MSC (Chun/Immisch) that the minutes of October 5, 2004, be approved as presented.
III.
Applied Technology Presentation
WELDING TECHNOLOGY
Corrections to the Welding Technology Packet were distributed and reviewed.
Welding Technology 64A, Beginning Arc, Flux-Core Welding, and Blueprint
Reading, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for WT 70—received and approved.
• Textbook dates.
Welding Technology 64B, Advanced Arc, Flux-Core Welding, and Blueprint
Reading, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for WT 70—received and approved.
• Textbook dates.
Welding Technology 65A, Beginning TIG, MIG, and Blueprint Reading, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for WT 70—received and approved.
• Textbook dates.
Welding Technology 65B, Advanced TIG, MIG, and Blueprint Reading, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for WT 70—received and approved.
• Textbook dates.
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Welding Technology 66, Welding Inspection and Testing, 2units
Corrections made:
• Textbook dates.
Welding Technology 67A, Welding Skills Laboratory, 2 units
Corrections made:
• List topics covered under Course Content.
• Move “selected topics” from Course Content to Typical Assignments.
• Textbook date.
Still Needed:
• Remove “or welding work experience” from catalog description.
• Remove “This is a laboratory course only,” from the Course Content section.
Welding Technology 67B, Advanced Welding Skills Laboratory, 2 units
Corrections made:
• List topics covered under Course Content.
• Move “selected topics” from Course Content to Typical Assignments.
• Textbook date.
• Advisory Content Review Form for WT 64B and 65B—received and approved
as modified (see below).
Still Needed:
• Remove “This is a laboratory course only,” from the Course Content section.
• Dan Raveica commented that the expected outcomes from WT 64B and 65B are
similar and some topics are repeated. Cindy Hicks asked him to revise the
Content Review Form to delete the repetitions.
Welding Technology 68, Certification Preparation, 0.5 to 2 units
The discipline decided not to add prerequisites to this course.
Corrections made:
• Write Methods of Presentation as a list.
• Add a typical textbook (including date).
Still Needed:
• Revise Catalog Description as follows: “…Petroleum Institute 1104; includes
laboratory…”
• Remove “This is a laboratory course only,” from the Methods of Presentation
section.
Welding Technology 69A, Fabrication and Installing Piping Systems, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Prerequisite Content Review Form for WT 64B—received and approved as
modified (see below).
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Still Needed:
• Revise the Content Review Form to delete the repetitions.
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Welding Technology 70, Introduction to Welding, 2 units
Discussion resulted in the decision that because of the repeatability factor, it is not
possible to limit the combined units awarded for WT70 and WT71.
Corrections made:
• Textbook date.
Still Needed:
• Remove “(Combined credit for Welding Technology 71 and Welding
Technology 70 may not exceed 3 units.)” from the catalog description.
Welding Technology 71, Art Welding, 2 units
Discussion resulted in the decision that because of the repeatability factor, it is not
possible to limit the combined units awarded for WT70 and WT71.
Corrections made:
• Title changed to “Welding for Artists.”
• Remove “introduction to blueprint reading as applied in manufacturing industry”
from the Catalog Description.
• Include laboratory topics in the Expected Outcomes and Course Content.
• Textbook date.
Still needed:
• Remove “introduction to blueprint reading as applied in manufacturing industry”
from the Abbreviated Course Description.
• Remove “(Combined credit for Welding Technology 71 and Welding
Technology 70 may not exceed 3 units.)” from the catalog description.
Degree and Certificates
Revised Certificates were distributed:
• Certificate of Completion, Welding (Note: This was distributed as Certificate
of Achievement. It does not contain enough units for this designation.)
• Certificate of Completion, Inspection and Pipe Welding
There were no changes made to the AS Degree page.
AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGY
Steve Small presented corrections.
Corrections made:
• A revised Dean’s Checklist was provided, showing which courses are Baccalaureate
level. [Note that Auto Tech 64A and B are currently on the CSU Transfer list,
and should be marked “Y.”]
Automotive Technology 60A, Automotive Electrics/Electronics I, 3.5 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review forms for ATEC 61A and Industrial Tech 74—
received and approved (subject to changes brought to next meeting—see
discussion below).
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Cindy explained how Degree of Importance of Exit Skills dictates whether a course
should be a Prerequisite or an Advisory. It appears that Steve may have reversed the
numbering on some of the skills (interpreting 1 as low importance rather than high).
Cindy asked him to review the forms submitted today, make corrections as
needed, and bring revisions to the next meeting.
Automotive Technology 60B, Automotive Electrics/Electronics II, 3.5 units
Corrections made:
• Add to Catalog Description and Abbreviated Course Description, “May not
receive credit if Automotive Technology 71 has been completed.
• Advisory Content Review forms for ATEC 60A—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 61A, Fuel Induction Systems, 3.5 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review forms for ATEC 60A—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 61B, Fuel Induction, Emission and Computer Control
Systems II, 3.5 units
Corrections made:
• Remove “Evening Only” from Catalog Description and Abbreviated Course
Description.
• Add to Catalog Description and Abbreviated Course Description, “May not
receive credit if Automotive Technology 71 has been completed.”
Automotive Technology 63A, Introduction to Engines and Machining Processes,
3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for Industrial Tech 74—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 64A, Manual Drive Train, and Axle Assemblies, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Advisory Content Review Form for Industrial Tech 74—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 64B, Automatic Transition/Transaxle Assemblies, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Textbook date.
• Advisory Content Review Form for Industrial Tech 74—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
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Automotive Technology 65, Automotive Braking Systems, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Textbook date.
• Advisory Content Review Form for Industrial Tech 74—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 66, Automotive Steering, Suspension, and Alignment
Systems, 3 units
Corrections made:
• Textbook date.
• Advisory Content Review Form for Industrial Tech 74—received and approved
(subject to changes brought to next meeting).
Automotive Technology 68, California BAR Basic and Advanced Clean Air Car
Course, 5 units
Title change from California BAR Clean Air Car Course. Catalog Description
change. After discussion, it was agreed to change the following sentence: “The
BCACC includes the 2003 current update and OBDII requirements.
Corrections made:
• Catalog Description revised to read “The BCACC includes the current update
and OBDII requirements.”
• Textbook dates and list formatting.
• Rewrite second line “and (no italics) Write it Right…” to show that these are two
separate books.
• Remove the Prerequisite Content Review Form for ATEC 71.
Automotive Technology 71, Powertrain and Vehicle Performance, 7units
Corrections made:
• Add to Catalog Description and Abbreviated Course Description, “May not
receive credit if Automotive Technology 60B and 61B have been completed.”
AS Degree, Automotive Technology
Cindy commented that this is a high unit major and asked for a rationale for the
number of units. She added that when deciding what courses are necessary in a
major, the focus should be on Learning Objectives. Steve replied that the courses
listed are needed to make a student employable.
Corrections made:
• List the courses in each option.
Still needed:
The following comments and suggestions were made:
• Because there is already an English requirement on the GE graduation page,
English 70 is probably not needed.
• Auto Tech 60A is listed in both the Freshman Year and in Option 2.
• Please identify the area for each option (i.e., “Fuels,” etc.)
• Distribute a revised AS program page at the next meeting.
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Denise Noldon initiated a discussion on whether students entering the program with
prior experience would be able to obtain waivers or substitutions for the courses
listed or obtain credit by examination. Steve Small assured her that students would
be given credit for their knowledge and experience.
ELECTRONICS AND COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY
The discipline submitted Articulation form #2, CSU Baccalaureate-Level, for the
following courses:
Electronics Technology 67, Electronic Equipment Troubleshooting, 1 unit
Electronics Technology 68, Electronic Test Equipment, 1 unit
Electronics Technology 74A, Cisco Networking Academy CCNA 1 and 2, 5 units
Electronics Technology 74B, Cisco Networking Academy CCNA 3 and 4, 5 units
Electronics Technology 75, Networking Laboratory, 0.5 – 1 unit
Cindy volunteered to review the outlines for the critical thinking elements that are
required for inclusion on this list. She will report back to the committee at the next
meeting.
Other changes to this section will be included in the final packet.
IV.
GE Area Proposals: Review Criteria and Process
Cindy reviewed the background of the project to date, including the Accrediting Team’s
recommendation. The Chabot and LPC Faculty Senates have agreed to begin with the 18
units required by Title 5 (15 in designated areas and 3 to be designated by the college).
Our next task is to gather proposals to designate the 3 undesignated units and to add new
areas to the GE pattern. Proposals should relate to college-wide Learning Goals, which
are being developed and should be available by the end of the semester.
Cindy reminded the committee that the GE Pattern is only one of several ways that the
college can respond to the college’s Mission, Vision, Values statement and Learning
Goals. For instance, the GE Pattern does not have to have areas representing all Learning
Goals.
Cindy distributed three documents:
1. Steps in the Proposal Process and Timeline
This is a Curriculum Committee timeline. The Senate will have a timeline of its
own. Cindy corrected the date on #5 to read, “January 31 by 5:00 p.m.”
2. Proposal to Add an Area to the General Education Pattern for the AA Degree—
Cover Page
3. Draft Questions to Ask When Reviewing Proposals to Add Areas to the GE
Pattern.
This draft includes suggestions previously made by the committee. In answer to
a question by Patricia Shannon, Cindy revised #4 to read,
In order to obtain an AA degree students must complete their GE
requirements and their major requirements and complete a total of 60
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units. All things being equal, the Curriculum Committee recommends
that fulfilling the GE requirements and the major requirements not
cause students to have to go beyond the 60 units needed for
graduation. Further, it is preferable that students be allowed the
opportunity to take electives. How does the new Area affect the
number of units students in various majors will need in order to
obtain the AA or AS degree? Will it increase the number of students
who will need more than 60 associate degree units to obtain the
degree?
Cindy spoke about what is absolutely necessary and what is desirable. She expressed the
opinion that the GE requirements should include only those areas the faculty believes are
vital to our students’ educational needs. Cindy suggested that others may hold another
view, and we should discuss our perspectives both before and during our review of area
proposals. She added that we don’t have to go beyond 18 units; we cannot go beyond 26
units.
LPC is interested in developing a “Transfer AA Degree.” This is not part of this project,
but it will probably be discussed in the future as an option to the basic AA degree. We
want to be sure that a degree we develop now does not present obstacles to the future
development of transfer options.
Math proficiency is mandated by Title 5. It is a no-unit requirement that can be tested
out of, and a curriculum task force led by Tram VoKumamoto is currently reviewing
possible proficiency tests. Per the Senate, the American Cultures requirement is not Title
5 mandated, even though its units can be double counted. If it is to be added back, it will
need a proposal.
MSC (Hunt/Immisch) that the committee accept the draft materials with suggested
revisions and direct that the chair forward them to the Faculty Senate, with the
explanation that these materials are based on the information the committee feels it needs
to make a decision.
Cindy explained that consultation with others during the proposal development process is
strongly recommended but not required. The proposals will be posted on the intranet so
that everyone will be able to review them.
V.
VI.
VII.
Good of the Order
The presentation at the October 19 meeting will be PE; Language Arts is presenting on
October 26.
Next meeting: October 19, 2004
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
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