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CHABOT COLLEGE
Curriculum Committee Minutes
October 18, 2005
Members Present:
Desmond Chun, Rudolph Cockerham, Brigitte Kouakou (ASCC), Jim Matthews,
Clara McLean, Jan Novak, Lupe Ortiz, Norberto Ruiz, Patricia Shannon
Ex-Officio
Members Present:
Jane Church, Edna Danaher, Kaaren Krueg, Ron Taylor
Guests:
Gene Groppetti, Tim Harris, Dan Leonardi, Jon Palacio, Diane Zuliani
I.
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 2:05 by committee chair Norberto Ruiz. He
announced that he would record the meeting for his own information. If any others want
to record, they should feel free to do so.
II.
Minutes of October 11, 2005
MSC (Chun/Ortiz) that the minutes of October 11, 2005, be approved as presented.
III.
Arts and Humanities Presentation
Patricia Shannon announced that one of the things that came out of the preparation
process was that the process wasn’t too good. She stated that they will do better in the
future.
PHOTOGRAPHY
Dan Leonardi presented.
Photography 60, Intermediate Black and White Photography, 3 units
Title changed from Black and White Materials and Processes. Clarifies that the
course is the second in a series.
Needed:
• Articulation Form 4, UC Transfer. (Dan will verify with Patricia Posada)
Photography 65, Handcoloring, Toning and Beyond, 3 units
Title changed from Graphic Techniques. Revised Catalog Description clarifies that
the course deals with photographic rather than graphic or digital subject matter.
Desmond Chun questioned the date of the textbook. Dan replied that he believes this
to be the latest edition.
Jan Novak commented that this seems to be a rather extensive revision. She asked at
what point a revised course becomes a new course. Jane Church replied that at the
point when the intention and subject matter of the course become different from the
previous outline, a new number should be assigned.
MASS COMMUNICATIONS
Gene Groppetti presented.
Mass Communications 501, Radio/Television Production, 0 units
Adds two courses as Corequisites. No changes were suggested.
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Gene explained the way 500 courses work, including registration and funding details.
He noted that Mass Communications has two “500” courses (500 and 501) because
the media covered in the courses (print journalism/broadcast journalism) are so
different.
ARCHITECTURE
Architecture 20, Architecture of the Spirit, 3 units
Request to remove from catalog.
Architecture 62, Home Design and Construction Technology, 2 units
Request to remove from catalog.
Needed:
• Correct title of course on Rationale page.
Associate in Science Degree, Interior Design
Removing Architecture 62 from the catalog affects this degree. The proposed
addition of Architecture 4A or Architecture 14 increases the already high-unit major
by 1, to a total of 39. It was suggested that instead of adding courses, the discipline
might merely delete the 2-unit Architecture 62, thus reducing the major units to 36.
Jane added that the scheduling of day and evening classes raises a question of
whether students are able to complete this degree. Edna Danaher reported that since
1995 the college has awarded 18 Interior Design degrees.
Needed:
• Justification for high-unit major.
• Consider deleting Architecture 62 without replacing it.
• List both of the cross-listed classes, Architecture 68 and Interior Design 68.
MUSIC
Tim Harris and Jon Palacio presented.
Norberto raised the question of whether splitting a single class (such as Music 15) into
two classes (15A and 15B) affects faculty load. The discipline views this as more of a
repeatability issue. The change in units corrects a previous error in computing the hours
to units ratio.
Associate in Arts Degree, Music
This is a high-unit major. Jon explained that the discipline did not have time to
rework the entire program. Next year they plan to reduce the Music 2 series by 1 unit
for each course, reducing the major units by 4. It was suggested that Music 3 be
removed from the degree. While it is required for transfer, it may not be necessary
for the AA Degree.
Edna reported that the college has awarded seven Music degrees in the last seven
years, none in the last four years. Norberto suggested bringing the entire packet
forward next year rather than making the changes piecemeal.
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Discussion ensued on ways that the high-unit major might be reduced now, rather
than next year. For example, the discipline might delete some other courses now and
add them back in after the Music 2 units have been reduced.
Gene Groppetti said that the discipline will rework the rationale and bring it to the
next meeting.
Needed:
• Consider removing Music 3 from the degree.
• Consider other deletions to reduce the major units.
• Rewrite the rationale to defend the high-unit major.
MUSL 1, Introduction to Music, 3 units
Revised to accommodate a new text. Patricia Shannon suggested keeping the
Methods of Evaluating Student Progress section from the old outline.
Needed:
• Consider the suggestion above.
• Submit a Library Consultation form.
MUSL 4, Jazz Styles, 3 units
Brought forward with a new articulation request (Form 5, IGETC). Revised to meet
current outline format.
Needed:
• Check Revision of Existing Course and Minor Format Change on the Statement
of Rationale.
• Submit a Library Consultation form.
NOTE: All performance courses need some sort of final examination. It can be the
evaluation of a performance and must be noted in Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
MUSP 12A, Symphonic Band I, 1 unit
MUSP 12B, Symphonic Band II, 1 unit
MUSP 12A replaces MUSP 12; units are being reduced from 2 – 2.5 to 1.
MUSP 12B is a new course.
The committee discussed the unit changes and why they are being done. Jane called
attention to the 4-unit transfer limitation on Flier 100, CSU Transfer. She thinks that
we can remove the limit if we want to. She will check and let the Music discipline
know. She added that if the transfer institution sees a limit on the flier, they will
enforce it. If there is no limit listed, it is up to the transfer institution to impose one if
they so desire.
Discussion on whether a musical instrument is a “special student material.” It was
decided to add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to this section of the performance
outlines.
Needed (MUSP 12A):
• Correct typo in Rationale (“transfer requitements”)
• Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
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Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
Needed (MUSP 12B):
• Correct Course Content #2 to read, “Study technique…”
• Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
• Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
MUSP 13A, Wind Symphony I, 1 unit
MUSP 13B, Wind Symphony II, 1 unit
MUSP 13C, Wind Symphony III, 1 unit
New.
Ron questioned the “designed for” statement in the Catalog Description. He stated
that “music educators” implies that students hold a 4-year degree, and we should not
be offering credit courses to those who hold these degrees. Patricia Shannon
commented on the prestige gained by institutions that attract high-ability musicians.
It was decided to revise the description to read, “designed for advanced musicians…”
Discussion resulted in the agreement that these courses should be sequential—13A
should be prerequisite to 13B, 13B should be prerequisite to 13C.
Needed:
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Correct Statement of Rationale #4 to read, “Continued development of…”
Revise the Catalog Description to read, “designed for advanced musicians…”
Add prerequisite statements to MUSP 13B and MUSP 13C (see discussion
above).
Submit content review forms for the prerequisites.
Revise the Prerequisite Skills section of the outline.
Correct Course Content #2 to read, “Study technique…”
Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
Submit Articulation Forms #2 and #4 for all three courses.
MUSP 14A, Jazz Lab I, 1 unit
MUSP 14B, Jazz Lab II, 1 unit
MUSP 14A replaces MUSP 14; units are being reduced from 2 to 1.
MUSP 14B is new.
Needed:
• Add 14A as a prerequisite to 14B.
• Submit a content review form for the prerequisite.
• Revise the Prerequisite Skills section of the 14B outline.
• Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
• Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
• Submit Articulation Forms #2 and #4 for both courses.
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MUSP 15A, Jazz Band I, 1 unit
MUSP 15B, Jazz Band II, 1 unit
MUSP 15A replaces MUSP 15; units are being reduced from 2 to 1.
MUSP 15B is new.
Needed:
• Add 15A as a prerequisite to 15B.
• Submit a content review form for the prerequisite.
• Revise the Prerequisite Skills section of the 15B outline.
• Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
• Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
• Submit Articulation Forms #2 and #4 for both courses.
MUSP 16A, Jazz Ensemble I, 1 unit
MUSP 16B, Jazz Ensemble II, 1 unit
New courses.
Needed:
• Add 16A as a prerequisite to 16B.
• Submit a content review form for the prerequisite.
• Revise the Prerequisite Skills section of the 16B outline.
• Add Final examination information to Methods of Evaluating Student
Performance.
• Add “Musical instrument as appropriate” to Special Student Materials.
• Submit Articulation Forms #2 and #4 for both courses.
ART
Art 6, Museum Studies, 4.5 units
Request to increase hours/units from 2 hours lecture, 4 hours laboratory/3 units to
3 hours lecture, 5 hours laboratory/4.5 units. Adds a repeatability statement.
Diane Zuliani stated that when she developed this course, she didn’t realize how
much time would be involved. After teaching the course for the first time, she is
proposing these changes to fit the actual time needed and to grant students units for
the extra time they would otherwise have to donate without compensation. Last
semester students regularly stayed late and also worked during Spring break in order
to mount the show.
Norberto asked whether other colleges teach this course. Diane replied that it is not
offered at any other California Community College. At Universities it is a 2-year
upper division program. An exact equivalent of this course does not exist.
Discussion centered on:
• Number of units, seen by some as an enrollment management issue;
• Discipline productivity;
• Whether there was adequate sampling done before changes were proposed;
• The cost to students for a 4.5-unit class.
Ron stated that he is not concerned about the enrollment management aspects of the
course. He sees it as a student workload question. He asked whether the lecture
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could be kept at 2 hours and the extra time be given to the students as lab. Diane
replied that she feels a need for additional time in both areas.
At 4:00 Norberto asked for a motion to continue the meeting. MSC (Novak/Matthews)
to extend the meeting for a maximum of 30 minutes.
Jan asked how the lecture portion would vary to allow students to repeat the course.
Diane replied that the lecture uses field trips to various area art events as examples.
Because the events are different from semester to semester, so are the lectures.
Rudolph Cockerham mentioned that the Nursing discipline uses experimental courses
to fill out regular courses. It was noted that the result (high units/high fees) would be
the same.
Jane Church asked whether the course could be taught as purely technical, without
the theory component. Diane replied that the class worked beautifully as it was
written, but that there weren’t enough hours to cover everything.
Discussion ended with the statement that the proposed changes would be approved or
not by vote of the committee at the next meeting.
Art 17, Beginning Sculpture, 3 units
Title changed from Ceramic Sculpture to make it clear to students that this is a
sculpture class, not a ceramics class. No changes suggested.
Jane commented that this course was originally grandfathered onto the CSU General
Breadth list. The revision may be rejected on the grounds that it is a technical course.
HUMANITIES
Patricia Shannon presented an overview of the Humanities discipline’s program
restructuring. The program will be divided by semester and numbered accordingly: first
semester numbers in the 50s, second semester numbers in the 60s, third semester numbers
in the 70s, fourth semester numbers in the 80s. It is anticipated that it will take 3 years to
accomplish the entire transition.
Jane provided a memo from Bill McDonald listing his reactions and concerns to the
proposal (attached). Patricia replied that at this point in the transition most of Bill’s
comments are not important. They will be taken care of in the future when all of the
courses have been rewritten and the AA Degree Program is finalized. When questioned
about the high-unit major, Patricia stated that for this revision they had not looked at the
units, just the numbering and titles.
Norberto expressed a concern about the revised numbering sequence, stating that
numbers 50 and above have traditionally been reserved for vocational courses.
Discussion included comments that:
• Students are not aware of this convention;
• There are other cases of the convention not being followed;
• There is nothing in writing dictating that this practice must be followed.
Jane reported that she had worked with Patricia to find a set of numbers that would fit the
discipline’s plan. They had to move to this numbering range due to the college’s practice
of not reusing deleted numbers for a period of five years.
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Patricia invited those with questions or concerns to email her. She is willing to meet oneon-one or to participate in a round robin email discussion between now and next week’s
meeting.
AA Degree, Humanities (General)
Edna reported that there has not been a Humanities Degree awarded in 12 years. Ron
suggested that the discipline make incremental changes to the Program page rather
than merely changing the numbers/titles of the existing courses. He added that that
might aid the program in terms of students exercising their catalog rights. Jane
suggested considering the removal of the Anthropology, Art, and History courses, as
she thinks they fragment the degree. Patricia will bring a revised Program Page to
the next meeting.
Needed:
• Remove “Transfer Program” from the Program Page.
IV.
V.
Next meeting: October 25, 2005
Conclusion of Arts and Humanities Presentation and vote
Social Sciences Presentation
The meeting was adjourned at 4:35 p.m.
kk 10/19/05
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