CHABOT COLLEGE
Curriculum Committee Minutes
September 30, 2008
Members Present:
Begoña Cirera, Michael Langdon, Jim Matthews, Hilal Ozdemir, Wayne Pitcher,
Ernesto Victoria, Patricia Shannon
Ex-Officio
Members Present:
Jane Church, Edna Danaher, Gene Groppetti, Kaaren Krueg
Guests:
Leslie Capello (Mills College graduate student shadowing Hilal Ozdemir)
I.
II.
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 2:15 p.m. by committee chair Patricia Shannon.
Approval of Minutes of September 23, 2008
Patricia Shannon reported that she is currently reviewing the Applied Tech and Business
presentation. A lot of the business courses require access to computers and the network
as “Special Student Materials.” Does that requirement constitute a burden to students?
No, because students have access to computers on campus.
In response to Hilal’s request for more information on “highly compressed time frame,”
Patricia stated that she was unable to find any definition in the sources she has available.
MSC (Pitcher/Ozdemir) to approve the minutes of September 23, 2008, as presented.
III.
Psychology/Counseling Proposal
Psychology/Counseling 4, Multiethnic/Cultural Communications, 3 units
Kaaren Krueg distributed an outline for Psychology/Counseling 4. She explained
that while reading the Psychology/Counseling packet she discovered a discrepancy
between the course outline for Psychology/Counseling 4 that was included in this
packet (retrieved from the web site) and the catalog description published in our
current and past catalogs.
Investigation revealed that the outline provided in the final curriculum packet in
2003 was a later version than what was given to her on disk. The catalog was edited
based on the hard copy in the final packet, and the version on the disk was posted to
the webpage. The revised version has been posted to the web and a copy of the
erroneous posting has been filed in the archives with an explanation of the error
discovered and action taken.
There was discussion on whether the committee must review the outline in total or
whether we can act on only the request for American Cultures.
 Jane spoke to the understanding by the authors that the outline would not be
under scrutiny.
 Kaaren noted that past practice has been to require outlines coming forward
for any purpose to be brought up to date.
 Jim suggested sending the outline back with the direction that it is our
practice to review the entire course outline, and that we understand that this
may not have been clear in the directions that the discipline was given. He
added that we see no problem with the American Cultures request.
Curriculum Committee
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Jane reported that the Psychology/Counseling is up for Program Review, and
that all of their outlines will need to be reviewed at that time.
MSC (Matthews/Pitcher) that the committee request that the Counseling division
revise the course outline for Psychology/Counseling 4 based on current standards in
the Curriculum Handbook, and if they provide an updated packet for the November 4
meeting, the committee will act on the revised outline and request for addition of
American Cultures at that time.
Needed:
 Revise course outline to meet current standards, including textbook dates
within the last 5 years or rationale supporting older textbooks;
 Provide a preliminary copy to Patricia Shannon, Kaaren Krueg, and Jane
Church by October 21;
 Distribute a revised packet (incorporating edits to the preliminary copy) to
the committee by October 28.
Liberal Studies – Elementary Teacher Preparation, AA Degree
Discussion on the program page included the following suggestions:
 Move the GE information (paragraph 3) to the bottom of the page.
 Revise the last sentence in paragraph two to read, “Not all lower division
courses for the Liberal Studies major at CSUEB are available at Chabot.
Additional courses must be taken at the transfer institution.*”
 Asterisk the headings to which the previous sentence applies.
 Make the subheadings consistent in style, listing only courses available at
Chabot.
 Spell out the course rubrics.
This is a new degree. The state submission paperwork will need to be completed by
the end of the semester.
MSC (Pitcher/Matthews) that we approve the AA Liberal Studies – Elementary
Teacher Preparation with changes to be made as noted and reviewed by the chair for
completeness.
IV.
Curriculum and Title 5 Review (Carnegie Units)
Patricia distributed a summary on the Carnegie Unit. [Note this document begins with
page number 7.] The information in the second paragraph is from Title 5.

Michael stated that World Languages is proposing 3 hours of lecture and 1 hour
of lab for 3 units. Patricia replied that we can add 1 hour of laboratory without
impacting either the contract side or the Carnegie side of the issue. Students are
not charged extra for the lab hour, but we can track attendance and claim
apportionment for it.

Patricia called attention to the information on pages 9-11 which list the same
levels of review as previously discussed by the committee from a different
source. She added that in reviewing the Applied Technology and Business
Proposal packet, she found no Information Only items and only two Minor
Changes. The rest were Substantive Changes requiring full review.
Curriculum Committee
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Patricia commented that no matter the review style, we are all responsible for
reading each outline.
Patricia asked whether there were other areas that needed clarification, and invited emails
from people who have questions.
MSC (Pitcher/ Matthews) that Kaaren post the State Academic Senate’s Best Practices
document, The Course Outline of Record: A Curriculum Reference Guide, on the
Academic Services web site and Patricia write an email to faculty sending them the URL.
V.
Good of the Order
Patricia expressed the opinion that our current practice of relying on the Committee on
Online Learning to review Distance Education formats meets the requirement of full
review. Consensus that we not change our policy.
Jane initiated a discussion about reactivating courses. Jim stated that if the course outline
is not being changed, it becomes an administrative action; if anything is being changed, it
has to be treated as a new course.
Gene reported that the certification of stand-alone training is in the mail to the System
Office. We faxed our signed copy to the district, Lorenzo signed in place of the
Chancellor, and the hybrid document (faxed Chabot signatures with original Chancellor
signature) was put in the mail.
Patricia reported that the Faculty Senate has responded to our request to include the
Articulation Officer, a classified professional, and the VP Academic Services or designee
as voting members of the committee. The Senate is not ready to consider the request at
this time. Our current voting membership will remain. Patricia added that it is important
to note that the Articulation Officer does not have to be a counselor, and giving that
position a vote might result in a second vote for a division. She added that the Senate’s
decision saddens her because Jane, Edna, and Kaaren bring vision and expertise to the
committee. Jim added that this [allowing only faculty to vote] has been the Senate’s
position for 20 years. It has not changed.
VII.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Next Meeting: October 14, 2008, Room 1506.
Applied Technology and Business presentation
kk 10/2/08
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