Chabot College
Applied Technology & Business
Automotive Technology
Advisory Committee Meeting
Chabot College, Room 1418
October 10, 2013
Present:
Automotive Technology:
Tom Clark, Dean of Business and Technology, Chabot College
David Espinoza, Automotive Instructor, Chabot College
Eba Mohamed, Automotive Instructor, James Logan High School
Doug Nahale, Automotive Instructor, Washington High School, MVROP
Don Nilson, Automotive Instructor, Retired
Kurt Shadbolt, Automotive Instructor, Chabot College
Mike Sherburne, Automotive Instructor, Chabot College
Andy Shyers, Automotive Instructor, San Leandro High School
Steve Small, Automotive Instructor, Chabot College
Ed Snider, Automotive Instructor, Chabot College
Industry Representatives:
Dave Alexander, San Leandro Auto Service
David Alexander, Jr., Automotive Technician
Roy Doral, Doral’s Auto Repair
Jon Fowkes, Joint Apprenticeship Committee, Machinist Union
Casey Gallagher, Machinist Union, U.C. Davis
Garry Horrocks, Machinists Union
Terry Shelley, Owner, Carquest
Call to Order: 6:37pm
I. Welcome/Introductions
a. Kurt Shadbolt welcomed everybody. Tonight we will be breaking up in four groups to fill out
the NATEF Automobile Compliance Review for Accredited Training Programs, and discussing
our annual program review. Also announced CAT conference at Chabot in April 2014.
b. Tom Clark thanked everybody for their attendance, support, and sharing input on how Chabot
can improve their programs. It has been very helpful to Chabot and shows how much everybody
values and cares about the college. The Bond measure money has provided major improvements
to the school and there is concern about what will happen once the money runs out to continue to
keep Chabot up to date and current. The hope is that we continue to have good community
support. And, that community members will show up to the Board meetings to let the Board know
what programs are important to be funded at Chabot. The Board does listen to the community.
c. Kurt Shadbolt: Reminded everybody to sign in. Round table introductions were made.
The 2014 CAT Conference will be at Chabot College, April 24-26, 2014. It will primarily be for
Northern California with a few from Southern California.
II. Review of Minutes
Copies of the last advisory meeting (April 18, 2013) were provided. The minutes were reviewed.
Garry Horrocks made a motion to approve the minutes and Don Nilson seconded it. The minutes
were approved as printed with one correction (San Leandro HS will not pursue NATEF)
III. Reporting
1. Automotive Students Success, Enrollment Data: Kurt Shadbolt
Perkins is based on a federal data source that cross references a person’s social security
number/financial aid number/employment number. The Perkins numbers are about 2-3 years
behind. With that information from local schools and the state an average is produced for each of
these categories to see where we stand comparably with other programs: These numbers are based
on 2010-2011.
- CORE One: Student has taken at least 12 units (91%)
- Completion: Student completes a degree or certification program (54.41%)
- Persistence in Higher Education: Student continues beyond initial degree or certification
(74.25%)
- Employment Data: Student gets a job, joins military or apprenticeship program (81%)
- Non-traditional Participation/Completion: Typically for our industry meaning women. Less
than 25% in the industry
- Tom Clark shared his concerns regarding the numbers being skewed negatively because they
do not take into account, for example, the students that may not complete a program because
maybe they have to go to work to support a family. The student does not get the certification
or degree, however, is working in the industry. The numbers do not take that into account.
Student retention and graduation is key to future funding of programs
- Committee asked various questions related to data and how it is utilized by program and
college. Liked the comparison to other local programs.
(Slide Presentation used.)
2. Curriculum: Kurt Shadbolt
- As of Fall 2012 , the new curriculum has been fully implemented.
- Completion time is faster. Daytime students can graduate in 2 years. Nighttime students can
graduate in 2 ½ years.
- Currently working on getting a Service Advisor Class/Certification approved. Hopefully it
will be available by next fall.*Committee glad to hear we are moving forward on this area,
they have asked for it for some time, expect employment opportunities.
- New Hybrid certificate also in process to meet grant expectations and to provide employment
opportunities for graduates.*Committee expressed importance of hybrid, electric, alt fuels
knowledge and experience for technicians going forward, benefit for employment.
- Electronic books are currently being used in the BMW classes. Some publishers are starting to
offer electronic books. There really isn’t much of a price break to using the electronic books
but hopefully as they catch on there will be.
-
ATEC 50 is now requiring the SP2 test for safety and hazmat.*Committee expressed support
for industry recognized based safety training.
ATEC 52 is a one unit web based class for career exploration and planning. It will have a
curriculum update. Looking to focus more towards HS students.
3. Relations: Kurt Shadbolt
This Advisory Committee, BMW, and articulation with the high schools are very important to
our program.
We would like to expand articulation agreements with Eden, Mission Valley, San Leandro,
new instructor at Castro Valley ROP that we would like to talk with.
Dealerships and different industry groups have been holding meetings at Chabot so it gives us
the opportunity to talk with them about our programs.
Working with other local community colleges; encouraging students to graduate from their
college and then come over and take the BMW classes.
4. Instruction: Kurt Shadbolt
- Student Policies are continually getting updated and revised
- Expanding the automotive website
- New scheduling to offer more classes each semester, within the same time allocations.
- BMW is graduating students every semester, we are in our 4th graduating class with 19
students presently in local dealerships.
(Slide presentation used.)
5. Faculty: Kurt Shadbolt
- NATEF requires 20 hours of technical training per year. We encourage ten hours per semester
so our instructors are not at a panic at the end of the year trying to catch up.
- CTI training is done regularly by faculty, along with OEM based training (BMW, Honda, GM,
Ford).
- Evaluations on apprenticeship students to be established, and facilitated by Chabot faculty.
6. Facilities: Kurt Shadbolt
- 3400 Building is completed, ahead of schedule, under budget. Built to BMW standards.
- No other big projects planned for auto at this time.
- A new TV will be put in the 1400 Building for better communication to the students
(announcements).
- Virtual tours will be established and posted on website.
7. Tools and Equipment: Kurt Shadbolt
- Looking at purchasing:
o Fuel injection testing items
o Vacu-tech testing items
o Small instructional aid items
- Talking with Snap-on regarding a Snap-on Certification Program
- Talking with Hunter regarding a Hunter Certification Program and becoming their regional
training location.
8. Supplies: Kurt Shadbolt
- Consumable budget monies comes from Perkins Funds
- Donations from CITCO, Lucas oil companies
9. Budget: Kurt Shadbolt
- Small increases in the budget but still not back to pre-cut levels.
- BMW $2 million investment yearly with cars, equipment, and learning materials. BMW
dealer training will have a regular schedule going forward, expecting 3 weeks a month.
- Facility usage revenues
10. NATEF
- The committee was advised to the Mid Point review process, and was then divided into 4
groups.
- Groups reviewed specific portions of the review process (facility, records, tools /equip, etc)
and the reconvened to review and score the measured areas.
- Committee was extremely satisfied with the program, how it has evolved, and its clear focus
and direction. Committee strongly agreed that NATEF was the best decision for the college to
have made in ensuring a quality program.
11. Job Outlook, Changes & Trends: Kurt Shadbolt
- According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics 2010-2020 there will be a 17% increase in
jobs in the automotive field due mainly to retirements.
- Pay on the national average will be $35K salary and $17.21 hourly
- The increase in jobs for California alone is estimated at a 20% increase with a $20.99 average
hourly wage. In the San Francisco Bay Area estimates are at a 25.3% increase with the
average salary at $50K and $24.00 hourly wage.
- Technology in the automotive field is demanding a change in the knowledge of the technician.
Those technicians with a good, sound educational background will be more successful and
have greater opportunities.
- Committee felt the numbers were reasonable, and that many of these opportunities were to
replace aging current technicians, more than additional opportunities.
(Slide presentation used)
12. Observations and recommendations to improve Chabot’s Automotive Program
- Stay on the track that you are on.
- Continue forward by keeping up with the changes in the industry.
- Continue encouraging students to stay in the degree program.
- NATAF involvement is key for the program.
13. Facilities (Walk Through, review / Evaluation)
Meeting adjourned at 8:30 PM.
Minutes taken and submitted by Mike Sherburne