(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/23/82 Image Reference:0015 tjgjTOniMICNT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY' S GOVERNMENT) C R E T. COPY NO. C A B I N E T 47 (55). M e e t i n g of t h e C a b i n e t to be h e l d a t No. 1 0 , Downing S t r e e t , S . W . I . , on.WEDNESDAY, 16th OCTOBER, 1935, a t 1 1 . 0 a.in. A G E N D A . 1. THE ITALO-ABYSSINIAN DISPUTE. (Reference 2. C a b i n e t 45 ( 3 5 ) C o n c l u s i o n THE ATLANTIC AIR ROUTE (Reference - (if l). ready). C a b i n e t 44 ( 3 5 ) C o n c l u s i o n 2 ) . Memoranda by t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r A i r . C P . 164 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. C P . 182 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. Memorandum by t h e L o r d P r i v y S e a l . C P . 184 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. 3. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA ACT, 1955; BILL TO REPRINT AS TWO SEPARATE ACTS, ONE RELATING TO INDIA AND THE OTHER TO BURMA. (Reference C a b i n e t 43 ( 3 5 ) Conclusion 3 ) . Memorandum by the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r covering draft B i l l . C P . 191 ( 3 5 ) t o be c i r c u l a t e d . 4. India, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT ALLOWANCES FOR CHILDREN. Memorandum by t h e M i n i s t e r o f L a b o u r . C P . 190 ( 3 5 ) t o be c i r c u l a t e d . 5. FUMIGATIONS WITH HYDROGEN CYANIDE. Memorandum by the Home S e c r e t a r y . C P . 189 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. (Signed) M.P.A. Secretary 2 * Whitehall Gardens, 12th O c t o b e r , S.W.I., 1935. HANKEY, t o the Cabinet. j^TR DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OT? H T ggj^R S BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT). E T. COPY NO. C A B I N E T 47 ( 5 5 ) . CONCLUSIONS o f a M e e t i n g o f the C a b i n e t h e l d a t 10, Downing S t r e e t , S.W. 1 . , on WEDNESDAY, 16th OCTOBER, 1935, a t 1 1 . 0 a.m. PRESENT: The R i g h t Hon. S t a n l e y B a l d w i n , M . P . , Prime M i n i s t e r . ( I n the C h a i r ) . lie Right Hon. N e v i l l e C h a m b e r l a i n , M.P. , Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r . The R i g h t Hon. The V i s c o u n t H a i l s h a m , Lord Chancellor. m Eight Hon. Sir John Simon, C C S . I . , K.C.V.O., O . B . E . , K . C . , M . P . , Secretary o f S t a t e f o r Home The R i g h t Hon. S i r Samuel H o a r e , B t . , G . C . S . I . G.B.E. , C . M . G . , M.P. , S e c r e t a r y of State f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . -Affairs. He Most Hon. The Marquess o f L o n d o n d e r r y , K.G. , M.V.O. , L o r d P r i v y S e a l . p Eight Hon. lj.H. Thomas, M.P. , Secretary o f S t a t e f o r Affairs. Dominion if Most Hon. The Marquess o f Z e t l a n d , &.C.S.T., G . C . I . E . , S e c r e t a r y [of S t a t e f o r I n d i a . The R i g h t Hon. The V i s c o u n t H a l i f a x , K.G. , G . C . S . I . , G . C I . E . , Secretary o f S t a t e f o r War. The R i g h t Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe-Lister, G.B.E., M.C., M.P., Secretary of S t a t e f o r A i r . The R i g h t Hon. S i r Godfrey C o l l i n s , K.B.E. , C.M.G., M.P., S e c r e t a r y o f State f o r Scotland. If Eight Hon. I Malcolm MacDonald, M.P. , . Secretary o f S t a t e f o r t h e I "Colonies. The R i g h t Hon. W a l t e r Runicman, M . P . , P r e s i d e n t o f t h e Board o f ( I Right Hon. \ Sir Bolton E y r e s M o n s e l l , G.B.E., M.P. , F i r s t L o r d o f Admiralty. The R i g h t Hon. Lord Eustace Percy, Minister without P o r t f o l i o . f ; the Trade p R i g h t Hon. Walter E l l i o t , M . C . , M.P. , Minister f o r A g r i c u l t u r e and - Fisheries. The R i g h t Hon. O l i v e r Stanley, M.C., M.P., P r e s i d e n t o f t h e Board o f Education. IlRight Hon. hfir K i n g s l e y Wood, M.P. , Hfinister of Health. The R i g h t Hon. E r n e s t Brown, M . C . , M i n i s t e r o f Labour. l e l S i r M.P.A. Hanicey, G.C.B. , G . C M . G . , G.CV.C . M.P., Secretary. - jrpftioiSPtFP'* 1 . The S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r Foreign Affairs s a i d t h a t a t t h e l a s t week-end he had. f e l t l ' ions th France. perturbed at pevious eference: 3,'tinet 4-5 35), Con­ lusion 1.) Affairs the a t t i t u d e Of t h e P r e s s impression that the Minister for in giving League o f a t Geneva was making a l l sanctions, Nations the proposals o f t h e B r i t i s h Government: for a l s o t h a t we and t h e French w e r e c o n s t a n t l y w r a n g l i n g to Be had a c c o r d i n g l y the M i n i s t e r as t h e r e s u l t on t h e addressed a t e l e g r a m f o r League o f N a t i o n s A f f a i r s , had had s e v e r a l c o n v e r s a t i o n s w i t h him by o f which i t was q u i t e Press reports were i n a c c u r a t e . being carried and telephone, c l e a r that the Most o f t h e work was on i n Committees and Sub-Committees, meeting l a r g e l y in private, and t h e r e c e n t reports had p r o b a b l y been put about by r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s other n a t i o n s . For example, t h e ... certain t o I t a l y had been proposed French. exports The M i n i s t e r h a d taken towards undertaking t o it for part the Affairs out t h a t ^he same was t r u e i n there other who was Chairman Su.b-0ommittee, had t a k e n a l e a d i n g in financial sanctions. difficulties Even a f t e r h i s p o i n t , however, by League of N a t i o n s The Greek F i n a n c e M i n i s t e r , particular embargo on c o n s i d e r i t but p o i n t i n g of the Financial of t h e same l i n e as t h e C a b i n e t , w e r e some d i f f i c u l t i e s , cases. the and even t h a t some w e r e b e i n g made w i t h o u t the approval question. somewhat 1 T h e r e had. b e e n no w i t h t h e French a t Geneva. doubts had been removed on t h i s the Secretary o f S t a t e had felt d i s t u r b e d t h a t no c l e a r r e s o l u t i o n had been a c c e p t ­ ed t h a t , i f we w e r e a t t a c k e d as t h e - r e s u l t sanctions, o t h e r n a t i o n s would At h i s r e q u e s t , Affairs the Minister come t o o u r f o r League o f had o b t a i n e d a r e s o l u t i o n from b o t h Committees concerned t o t h e e f f e c t -1­ that a l l of assistance. Nations the the nations would carry out -Article XVI, paragraph. 3. That was satisfactory so far as it went, but left in doubt what was meant "by "co-operation", particularly in the case of France. At that moment there had appeared in the French, paper "Gringoire" a most offensive article signed by the u w - i n - l a w of M. Chiappe, the Presi­ dent of the Municipal Council of Paris . his had. been m disquieting, especial].y in connection with the doubts as to what French co-operation meant, so he had decided to clear the question up with. M. Laval, and had sent a. telegram on Monday to the British Ambassador in Paris. M. Laval's reply (Paris elegram No.303, of m October 15th) was to the effect that France fully subscribed to the undertaking in paragraph 3 of Article XVI of the Covenant, that "The Members of the League will, mutually support one another in resisting any special measures aimed at one of their Members by the Covenant-breaking State", but had made a reservation that to justify this solidarity it is necessary that the attack which brings it into play shall not be caused by a fact outside the application of Article XVI. M. Laval had stated that ­ "In the actual situation as presented by the British Government, the e ire tan­ stances are such that they oblige the French Government to make a reservation as to the presence in the Mediterranean of British, naval forces much in excess of the effectives normally stationed in that Sea. h e Covenant-breaking State, actually Italy, could in effect allege that it was justified, in seeing in this . concentration a step ( hnesure' ) going beyond the application of the step actually agreed upon at Geneva for the execution of ArtioIe XVI*. m Added to this, the French Admiralty had refused, to discuss the question of co-operation with the British Naval Attache. would carry out Article XVI, paragraph 3 . That was sat is fact cry so far as it went, but left in doubt what was meant by "co-operation", particularly in the case of France. At that moment there had appeared in the French paper "Oringoire" a most offensive article signed by the a w - i n - l a w of M. Ohiappe, the Presi­ dent of the Municipal Council of Paris.' h i s had been m disquieting, especial].y in connection with the doubts as to what French co-operation meant, so he had decided to clear the guestion up with M. Laval, and had .sent a telegram on Monday to the British Ambassador in Paris. M. Laval,'e reply (Paris Telegram wo.203, of October 15th) was to the effect that France fully subscribed, to the undertaking in paragraph 3 of Article XVI of the Covenant, that "The Members of the League will mutually support one another in resisting any special measures aimed at one of their Members bv the Covenant-breaking State", but had made a reservation that to justify this solidarity it is necessary that the attack which brings it into play shall not be caused by a fact outside the application of Article XVI.. M. Laval had stated that ­ "In the actual situation as presented by the British Government, the eircum­ stances are such that they oblige the French Government to make a reservation as to the presence i n the Mediterranean of British naval forces much in excess of the effectives normally stationed in that Sea. h e Covenant-breaking State, actually Italy, could in effect allege­ that it was justified, in seeing in this concentration a step ( hmesure') going beyond the application of the step actually agreed upon at Geneva for the execution of Article XVI". m Added to this, the French Admiralty had refused to discuss the question of co-operation with the British. Naval Attache. The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e r e c a l l e d how, e a r l y September, he had t o l d M. L a v a l o f t o the M e d i t e r r a n e a n , expressing — all surprise our in reinforcements i n w h i c h M- L a v a l had c o n c u r r e d , that they had n o t been s e n t o f which was on r e c o r d . earlier Signor Mussolini had s a i d much the same t h i n g , a n d t h a t i n our p l a c e he would have done the same h i m s e l f . M. L a v a l ' s In t h e s e circumstances r e s e r v a t i o n was q u i t e u n j u s t i f i a b l e a deplorable constantly impression. Moreover, and made he seemed t o be i n t r i g u i n g b e h i n d the back o f t h e League of N a t i o n s and o u r s e l v e s w i t h a v i e w t o some accommodation with Signor Mussolini. His a d v i c e therefore, q u e s t i o n s h o u l d be c l e a r e d up; was t h a t t h i s t o the Cabinet, t h a t he s h o u l d be a u t h o r i s e d t o s e n d a t e l e g r a m recalling the circumstances of our and t h e p r e v i o u s c o n v e r s a t i o n s describing tion of the n a t u r e o f i n r e g a r d t o them; as a c o n d i ­ and making c l e a r we were s a t i s f i e d as t o t h e French a t t i t u d e be no q u e s t i o n o f w i t h d r a w i n g any o f p r o p o s e d t o add t h a t of naval if confident the reinforcements availability aggression t o the M e d i t ­ t h e e q u i v o c a l French he was n o t p r e p a r e d t o a d v i s e r i s k s by w i t h d r a w a l s from attitude t h a t we s h o u l d t a k e any the M e d i t e r r a n e a n . French answer was s a t i s f a c t o r y , proposals could e a r l i e r we had f e l t i n t h e e v e n t o f an I t a l i a n In view of there unless He a l s o we s h o u l d have s e n t f e w e r erranean. that them. c o - o p e r a t i o n by France and o f o f French p o r t s M.Laval reinforcements the r e i n f o r c e m e n t s elementary s a f e t y ; to If the we c o u l d c o n s i d e r any t h a t S i g n o r G-randi m i g h t make on S i g n o r Mussolini's behalf, but he f e l t c o n s i d e r them u n t i l a f t e r t h a t we c o u l d n o t he had c l e a r e d m a t t e r s up w i t h M. L a v a l and. d i s c u s s e d t h e q u e s t i o n w i t h F i r s t Lord, o f the Admiralty. the The F i r s t profoundly recalled Lord o f t h e A d m i r a l t y s a i d t h a t h e was d i s q u i e t e d "by what had h a p p e n e d . t h a t t h e Sub-Gcmmittee on. D e f e n c e and Requirements had adopted v a r i o u s safeguard our p o s i t i o n For example, i n t h e event Fe Policy precautions of to sanctions. on t h e 5th September they had agreed. "(b) That, in order t o provide a safeguard a g a i n s t t h e r i s k o f such an a t t a c k " ( i . e , , an a t t a c k by I t a l y ) " t h e a d o p ­ t i o n o f s a n c t i o n s must be made c o n d i t i o n a l on a, c l e a r u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t i f I t a l y , as a c o n s e q u e n c e , s h o u l d a t t a c k any o f t h e n a t i o n s concerned, a l l the p a r t i c i p a t i n g n a t i o n s w i l l d e c l a r e war on I t a l y . . . . -(c) T h a t i n p a r t i c u l a r , as a c o n d i t i o n o f t h e a c c e p t a n c e o f s a n c t i o n s , we must h a v e a c l e a r u n d e r s t a n d i n g w i t h France as t o t h e a c t i o n she w i l l t a k e i n t h e e v e n t ' o f an I t a l i a n a t t a c k on t h e i n t e r e s t s o f t h e u n i t e d Kingdom: also, i f p o s s i b l e , w i t h Y u g o s l a v i a and G r e e c e " . He a l s o r e c a l l e d roents — t h a t t h e D e f e n c e P o l i c y and R e q u i r e ­ Committee had examined t h e s i t u a t i o n on t h e assumption t h a t France would g i v e us w h o l e - h e a r t e d c o - o p e r a t i o n and would play Western M e d i t e r r a n e a n the p r i n c i p a l however, except the G i b r a l t a r a r e a , role a contingent co-operate: principal air t h e p r i n c i p a l r.ol.e i n in Northern I t a l y , the and ' in which, o f t h e B r i t i s h . A i r F o r c e would t h e U n i t e d Kingdom was t o p l a y the r o l e i n t h e P a s t e r n M e d i t e r r a n e a n —- a l l of w h i c h , t o g e t h e r w i t h a good d e a l m o r e , had b e e n r e p o r t e d t o the Cabinet i n 0 .P.-176 (65) and t a k e n n o t e o f by them on September 24th ( C a b i n e t 43 ( 3 5 ) , Conclusion 2 ( a ) ) . those previous Policy He f u r t h e r r e c a l l e d , t h a t discussions and Requirements c o n s i d e r i n g the Reports i n w h i c h t h e dangers for the F l e e t during t h e C a b i n e t and t h e Defence Sub-Committee had been from t h e D e f e n c e Services, o f M a l t a and t h e a b s e n c e o f i n t h e M e d i t e r r a n e a n had been bases emphasised. F o r some t i m e p a s t now h e had f e l t d i s q u i e t e d at t h e a t t i t u d e why he had t e e n p r e s s i n g In Paris o f F r a n c e , and t h a t was to c l e a r the matter up. our N a v a l A t t a c h e ' ' s rebuffed. profoundly o v e r t u r e s had been From t h e B r i t i s h Ambassador's telegram N o . 203 we now knew where we w e r e , and t h a t M. L a v a l a l l e g e d t h a t by s t r e n g t h e n i n g t h e M e d i t e r r a n e a n we w e r e c a u s i n g a p r o v o c a t i o n t o I t a l y . p o i n t o f view o f t h e Navy t h i s was a unsatisfactory position, c a t e g o r i c a l assurances co-operation. Secretary of From t h e terribly and we ought t o ask t o t h e remark of Foreign Affairs c o n s i d e r i n g any I t a l i a n p r o p o s a l s the that before f o r mutual w i t h ­ draws. 1 i n t h e M e d i t e r r a n e a n h e would l i k e to t h e A d m i r a l t y , he s a i d t h e o n l y p o s s i b i l i t y withdrawal of the B a t t l e Cruisers from good e f f e c t and had r e s u l t e d t h e I t a l i a n main f o r c e s , Cruisers, including consult was produced in bringing their back larger i n t o the Western b a s i n of the Mediterranean The A d m i r a l t y w o u l d , h o w e v e r , b e w i l l i n g the withdrawal of t h e s e B a t t l e Cruisers t.p. c o n s i d e r if the French would p r o v i d e a s u b s t i t u t e and d e c l a r e willingness to fulfil their g i v e us t h e use o f b a s e s . nearer getting responsibilities League o f N a t i o n s lead at.Geneva, a l l From t h e A d m i r a l t y ' s a t Geneva i t s e l f , of view as r e p o r t e d the suggestion that was not t h e w o r l d thought N o . 210 L . N . , was not v e r y and were Even t h o u g h / t h e Affairs point their At p r e s e n t we w e r e no our b a s e s , though s a n c t i o n s making p r o g r e s s a t 0 e n e v a * for the Gibraltar. 'Fhe d e s p a t c h o f t h e s e B a t t l e C r u i s e r s had a very for from M , L a v a l as t o h i s Referring State for Fleet taking the that he was. even t h e i n Geneva situation telegram satisfactory. our a n x i e t i e s w e r e Minister n For example s u r e l y met by t h e terms o f A r t i c l e XVI i t s e l f , w h i c h i s , of course. b i n d i n g on e v e r y Member o f t h e League and under which we a r e a t p r e s e n t w o r k i n g " -was n o t convincing, especially in the l i g h t very o f M. Laval's attitu.de. I n t h e course o f t h e d i s c u s s i o n M. p o s i t i o n was i n t e r p r e t e d t o mean t h a t Laval's even i f a t t a c k e d us i n consequence o f t h e i m p o s i t i o n sanctions under t h e a e g i s P r a n c e might r e f u s e t h e movements of o f t h e League o f co-operation Nations, o b t a i n an e x p l i c i t reservation, o f such w i t h d r a w a l and t h a t that provocative. I t was urged t h a t t h e B r i t i s h Ambassador i n o f M. L a v a l ' s of on t h e ground our F l e e t had b e e n s h o u l d be i n s t r u c t e d t o Italy Paris withdrawal in the absence i t would be i m p o s s i b l e t o prevent i t s becoming known t h a t t h e w h o l e scheme o f sanctions had broken down owing t o t h e French, a t t i t u d e . One f e a t u r e which made t h e s i t u a t i o n s e r i o u s was t h a t of I t a l y was almost t h e French a t t i t u d e . was n e c e s s a r y if learn was s u g g e s t e d t h a t to let the r e a s o n t h e Locarno T r e a t y would, a l s o b r e a k i t -was a r g u a b l e t h a t no e f f e c t i v e our r e i n f o r c e m e n t , obligations of M e d i t e r r a n e a n F l e e t was so p r o v o c a t i v e as t o Italy it t h e Covenant w e r e t o b r e a k down down and t h e r e would b e l e f t If certain to i n t h e s e circumstances French know t h a t for this It especially the enable t o a t t a c k us w i t h o u t b r i n g i n g p a r a g r a p h 3 o f A r t i c l e XVI i n t o operation, i t m i g h t be argued that i n t h e e v e n t o f a German a t t a c k , on F r a n c e t h e French, fortifications and o t h e r d e f e n s i v e p r e p a r a t i o n s were equ.a 1 l y p r o v o c a t i v e t o a German a t t a c k . The Prime M i n i s t e r reminded t h e C a b i n e t we must b e careful w i t h France as - e l l not t o be drawn i n t o a as w i t h I t a l y what was happening a t Geneva. that quarrel as t h e r e s u l t of Some doubts w e r e e x p r e s s e d as t o w h e t h e r , even M. L a v a l g a v e t h e assurances we a s k e d , we could if rely on him i n v i e w his equivocal a t t i t u d e throughout. w i t h d r a w a l from t h e French / Ohanak was r e c a l l e d . I t was u r g e d , however, that we d e s i r e d , if M. L a v a l should g i v e t h e conversations assurances should t a k e p l a c e immediately between, t h e B r i t i s h -Attache and t h e French M i n i s t r y Marine. If Italy could he made t o B e l i e v e t h a t would s t a n d b e h i n d us i n t h e event would b e a s u f f i c i e n t The F i r s t must b e v e r y of a t t a c k , I f we w e r e t o w i t h d r a w ' t h e France must p u b l i c l y announce s h e would t a k e o v e r our r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s some c o n c r e t e a c t i o n t o make t h i s preparations clear: The F i r s t to a t war s t r e n g t h , for ports. the and t h e Levant Malta. Lord r e p o r t e d t h a t , h e was i n g r e a t that take as, as t o how l o n g could, remain i n A l e x a n d r i a without returning and in the Mediterranean The q u e s t i o n was r a i s e d two C a p i t a l that deterrent. explicit. British Fleet France L o r d o f t h e A d m i r a l t y urged, t h a t we Battle Cruisers, example, difficulties a p a r t from in maintaining this, the Fleet and was h a v i n g t o c o n s i d e r - p a y i n g this s i t u a t i o n was c l e a r e d up we must go s l o w a t Geneva the matter sanctions. of The S e c r e t a r y of State f o r Foreign Affairs we w e r e a b l e t o o b t a i n c o m p l e t e l y assurances off Ships . T h e r e was g e n e r a l agreement t h a t u n t i l that i f of from t h e French Government, in said satisfactory t h e b e s t way o f announcing t h a n t o t h e jworld would, p r o b a b l y be by ry r o t h c0untr3.es means o f p u b l i c s t a t e m e n t at Geneva. T h a t would b e w o r t h a good d e a l , even i f we might f e e l m i s g i v i n g s i n regard t o whether in the l a s t t h e " a s s u r a n e e s could, be r e l i e d o n . -7­ some resort I n t h e c o u r s e o f t h e d i s c u s s i o n t h e Cabinet were reminded t h a t t h e p o l i c y had been t o p l a y t h e Geneva hand t o the f u l l , but t h e q u e s t i o n was r a i s e d as whether i t had not been played, as f a r But t h e v i e w o f t h e S e c r e t a r y Affairs was s t r o n g l y not y e t come f o r however, of S t a t e f o r safe. Foreign s u p p o r t e d t h a t t h e moment had a change i n p o l i c y . that u n t i l as was I t was u r g e d , t h e s i t u a t i o n w i t h France was c l e a r e d up we shotild n o t a p p l y any new s a n c t i o n s from t h e maintenance o f t h e arms embargo t o which i n v o l v e d no new a c t i o n on our p a r t , the existing embargo i n t h e c a s e o f T h e Cabinet a g r e e d fa) apart Italy, since t h e agreement r e a c h e d a t Geneva had o n l y been lift to to Abyssinia. — That t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s should send i n s t r u c t i o n s t o t h e B r i t i s h Ambassador i n P a r i s t o i n s i s t on a c a t e g o r i c a l ana e x p l i c i t w i t h d r a w a l by M, L a v a l o f h i s r e s e r v a t i o n t o h i s acknowledgment o f t h e French o b l i g a t i o n under A r t i c l e X V I , p a r a g r a p h 3, o f t h e Covenant. F i s t e l e g r a m t o t h e Ambassador should, b e drawn up in. t h e l i g h t o f t h e Cabinet d i s c u s s i o n and should s e t out f o r v. L a v a l ' s i n f o r m a t i o n what w e r e l i k e l y t o be t h e consequences and r e a c t i o n s of adherence t o h i s present a t t i t u d e on t h e s a n c t i t y o f i n t e r ­ n a t i o n a l engagements: ft.) That g r e a t c a u t i o n must be e x e r c i s e d i n t h e a p p l i c a t i o n o f s a n c t i o n s , and t h a t i t would b e w e l l t o p o s t p o n e t h e a p p l i c a t i o n ' o f any new s a n c t i o n s u n t i l " t h e p o s i t i o n w i t h t h e French Government had been c l e a r e d up, and t h a t u n t i l t h a t t i m e i t would be d e s i r a b l e not t o p r e s s s a n c t i o n s t o o a c t i v e l y at G eneva. ITALO­ ftBYSSlNIAW DISPUTE. rriR Sanctions. * jrbe A t t i t u d e f Non-Member States . 0 2. of S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n Affairs r a i s e d t h e q u e s t i o n o f t h e a t t i t u d e t o b e adopted, in the matter of s a n c t i o n s , towards S t a t e s Members o f t h e l e a g u e o f N a t i o n s . that were Tn t h e c a s e not of America h e had taken t h e l i n e t h a t t h e i n i t i a t i v e better 11 p-p ev i ou s I Referencet I Cabinet 45 ( 3 5 ) , Oon­ i clus i o n 1.) The S e c r e t a r y regards come from t h e U n i t e d s t a t e s " o v e r n m e n t . o t h e r n a t i o n s he thought N a t i o n s should r e a c h i t s t h a t t h e League of v them. t h a t w e r e t a k e n i n which non-Member S t a t e s v.-ere concerned s h o u l d b e p r o v i s i o n a l their As o- n c o n c l u s i o n s as t o what s a n c t i o n s were t o be a p p l i e d b e f o r e approaching Any r e s o l u t i o n s had co-operation. fhe Cabinet agreed t o the proposals , above pending 1TAI.0­ ySSTNTAN ,PU^F. Treaty Financial sistance. e 3. The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs reported, a suggestion that had reached him that the unratified Treaty of Financial Assistance might be invoked at Geneva. Any assistance that could be rendered to Abyssinia In that way would be in the devious eference: binet 29 SO), Con­ us ion 2.) nature "of a gift, owing to that country'a lack of resources. The propose,! was not being pressed.. ^he Cabinet agreed — That the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs should inform the Ti/irlnister for league of Nations Affairs that it would be prefer­ able that the unratifled treaty of Financial Assistance should not be raised at the present time. i IP ITALOfgySSlNIAN igSEUTE. 4. The S e c r e t a r y said that of State f o r in the e a r l i e r Foreign Affairs d i s c u s s i o n s a t Geneva q u e s t i o n had been r a i s e d o f s o m e t h i n g i n the the nature Unctions. fssistance to States Idversely ,ff ec t e d . o f compensation f o r S t a t e s t h a t would be a d v e r s e l y a f f e c t e d by the r e a c t i o n s o f t h e i m p o s i t i o n o f sanctions. Those p r o p o s a l s had now been m o d i f i e d and what seemed now t o be c o n t e m p l a t e d was t h a t i f difficulties later actually a r o s e t h e y s h o u l d be on t h e i r m e r i t s . considered A f o r m u l a was under between the F o r e i g n O f f i c e , Treasury the discussion and Board o f Trade. The P r e s i d e n t o f the Board o f Trade e n t e r e d a c a v e a t t h a t the Board o f T r a d e was a l r e a d y r e c e i v i n g protests, t h r o u g h Chambers o f Commerce, from merchants vrtio e x p e c t e d t o be a d v e r s e l y and t h a t a g o o d d e a l o f a f f e c t e d by c a u t i o n was The C a b i n e t a g r e e d sanctions, necessary. — To l e a v e the r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o r p r e p a r i n g an a p p r o p r i a t e formula f o r use a t Geneva t o The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n Affairs, The C h a n c e l l o r o f the E x c h e q u e r , The p r e s i d e n t o f t h e Board o f T r a d e . if HE ITALOAETSSTNIAN DISPUTE. Continuance of I m p e r i a l Airways. (Previous Reference: Cabinet 45 ( 3 5 ) , Con­ clue i o n 5 . ) 5 . The S e c r e t a r y attention of of State for the Cabinet State the of for in t o p a r a g r a p h 3 , as Egypt, follows:­ " I do not t h i n k i t i s n e c e s s a r y t o h o l d t h a t laws o f n e u t r a l i t y n e c e s s i t a t e t h a t passage of c i v i l a i r c r a f t o f b e l l i g e r e n t s c a r r y i n g on o r d i n a r y p e a c e f u l s e r v i c e unconnected w i t h war s h o u l d b e f o r b i d d e n . Italy has no t r e a t y r i g h t a p p l i c a b l e i n p r e s e n t c i r c u m s t a n c e s f o r any c i v i l a i r c r a f t t o f l y o v e r Fgypt or t h e Sudan. . . . . . . . However, i t i s u n l i k e l y i n t h e p r e s e n t c a s e t h a t any I t a l i a n c i v i l a i r c r a f t which have nothing t o do w i t h t h e war w i l l b e f l y i n g o v e r Egypt and t h e Sudan. T h e r e f o r e i t i s n o t c o n s i d e r e d n e c e s s a r y or d e s i r a b l e f o r Egypt o r t h e Sudan t o d e c l a r e that they w i l l never permit during present h o s t i l i t i e s any f l y i n g o v e r t h e i r t e r r i t o r y by I t a l i a n c i v i l a i r c r a f t , though t h i s can b e r e c o n s i d e r e d i f League recommends any measures w i t h r e g a r d to Italian civil aircraft. Egypt and Wudan should., h o w e v e r , make s u r e i n connexion w i t h any a p p l i e a ­ t i o n f o r any I t a l i a n c i v i l a i r c r a f t t o f l y over t h e i r t e r r i t o r y that the f l i g h t has n o t h i n g t o do w i t h t h e w a r " . that at the meeting r e f e r r e d m a r g i n h e had mentioned, t h a t by t h e I t a l i a n s it to E r i t r e a . in a l a r g e m a i l was spur l i n e which I t would n o t be r i g h t t h i s m a i l was not the shipped own c o l o n y . carried t o assume t h a t connected w i t h the w a r . I t a l i a n s had t h e r i g h t their to by I m p e r i a l A i r w a y s ' t o Khartoum, where t h e r e was an I t a l i a n t o run t h i s The spur l i n e To s t o p i t would b e most t i v e and would p r o b a b l y r e s u l t i n immediate into provoca­ retalia­ tion against I m p e r i a l A-irways, who always had two flying-boats at B r i n d i s i , t h e s e i z u r e or detention o f which would c o m p l e t e l y dislocate their service. He h o p e d , t h e r e f o r e , that t h e n a t t e r might be considered, i n any- event a w a r n i n g and t h a t b e sent t o S i r Miles I of t o t h e " i g h Commissioner and more p a r t i c u l a r l y Re r e c a l l e d i3 drew t o ^ e l e g r a r o N o . 370, October 1 5 t h , from t h e S e c r e t a r y Foreign A f f a i r s Air Khartoum f o r further should Lamps on t o t a k e no a c t i o n a t t h e moment. -12­ T h e Cabinet agreed — ( a ) That the Secretary of S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s should, send, an immediate w a r n i n g t o S i r M i l e s lamps on t o t a k e s t e p s t o a v o i d any a c t i o n on t h e t e l e g r a m a f f e c t i n g t h e I t a l i a n , a i r l i n e from Khartoum to Eritrea: fb) That t h e q u e s t i o n should b e r e m i t t e d t o the Secretary of State f o r Foreign A f f a i r s and. t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r A i r , who should r e p o r t t o t h e C a b i n e t i f and when t h e y s h o u l d t h i n k any change o f p o l i c y t o be required. mpE TTAXO- 6. The S e c r e t a r y DISPUTE. in reply Broadcasting. refused PA of State for Foreign t o a- q u e s t i o n as t o why Baron A l o i s i had been facilities f o r b r o a d c a s t i n g t o America, on a recent occasion, before t h e b r o a d c a s t was explained consulted, on t h e m a t t e r . taken p l a c e that very day. that only h a l f The b r e a k a t Geneva had Be had f e l t - t h a t t h e b r o a d c a s t was t o t a k e p l a c e i t both s i d e s felt, For seemed should h a v e t h e same f a c i l i t i e s . therefore, that i n t h e cireurastanr-es d e c i s i o n h e c o u l d t a k e was t o v e t o the example, that He had the facilities, h e C a b i n e t approved t h e a c t i o n o f t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . m an hour t o ' t a k e p l a c e he had been n o t i c e g i v e n t o him was much t o o s h o r t * if Affairs, only flirp! ATLANTIC ATR ROUTR. 7. The C a b i n e t documents (previous tjg-e pr-ance: a g a i n had b e f o r e on t h e s u b j e c t them t h e of the A t l a n t i c A i r following Route:­ Memoranda r y oCf. P S e or A i r ( Cby . P . -t1h6e4 S (e3c5r )e t aand . -t1a8tS Cabinet 4 4 (35)): (35) Gon­ elusion ?,.) A Memorandum bv t h e Lord P r i v v (C.P.-184 ( 3 5 ) ) . T h e s e Papers had been c o n s i d e r e d the Meeting r e f e r r e d agreed that State for to a t some l e n g t h i n t h e m a r g i n , when i t the Prime M i n i s t e r , of the s i t e an e a r l y The S e c r e t a r y should s e e the of including t h e proposed State for of the had been e x p l a i n e d to of base the Air reported Trans-Atlantic international aspects, uhe Prime M i n i s t e r of N o r t h e r n I r e l a n d who had been most r e a s o n a b l e helpful, taking the l i n e that His He had u r g e d , h o w e v e r , State, it the that if aerodrome the d e c i s i o n i n the on p o l i t i c a l The n e x t s t e p was t o c a r r y out Irish should Free He h i m s e l f Irish if survey Free p r o p o s e d to keep i n touch w i t h C r a i g a v o n who had s u g g e s t e d t h a t taken grounds. a technical i n b o t h N o r t h e r n I r e l a n d and the to right. s h o u l d be announced as h a v i n g been on t e c h n i c a l and not i t was State. Lord decided e s t a b l i s h t h e aerodrome i n t h e I r i s h F r e e i t m i g h t be u s e f u l in Northern t o have an and Majesty's Government must t a k e w h a t e v e r a c t i o n was be t o e s t a b l i s h with date. t h a t the w h o l e p o s i t i o n A i r Route, of o f Wort-hern I r e l a n d and d i s c u s s him t h e q u e s t i o n i n I r e l a n d at at was the Secretary A i r and o t h e r M i n i s t e r s Prime M i n i s t e r Seal State, alternative Ireland. The L o r d P r i v y S e a l , w h i l e a c c e p t i n g what - had been a r r a n g e d , demurred t o -15­ the suggestion t h a t t h e r e were a d v a n t a g e s I r i s h Free S t a t e . If in a landing place in the t h e h e s t "base t e c h n i c a l l y was i n Galway he had n o t h i n g t o s a y , hut he was n o t c o n v i n c e d by the argument situated t h a t the aerodrome must be i n the I r i s h F r e e S t a t e because otherwise the Government t h e r e w o u l d n e g o t i a t e w i t h France and . Germany. The S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r A i r the C a b i n e t t h a t he had e v i d e n c e assured t h a t France especially was a n x i o u s t o e s t a b l i s h a s e a p l a n e s e r v i c e f o r w h i c h use o f an. I r i s h F r e e S t a t e base would be v e r y The C a b i n e t the valuable. agreed: (a) That the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r A i r should arrange f o r a t e c l i n i c a l survey o f a l t e r n a t i v e b a s e s f o r aerodromes o f the w e s t e r n terminus o f the A t l a n t i c A i r Route t o be c a r r i e d out a t once i n t h e I r i s h F r e e S t a t e and N o r t h e r n Ireland respectively. (b) That t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e for Air s h o u l d keep i n c l o s e touch v/ith t h e Prime M i n i s t e r o f N o r t h e r n Ireland. (c) That t h e I r i s h Free S t a t e Government s h o u l d be i n f o r m e d t h a t the s u r v e y was t a k i n g p l a c e i n b o t h t e r r i t o r i e s . loV?HNMBNT 0? 0 . I n pursuance o f t h e C o n c l u s i o n m e n t i o n e d i n [*JBIA ACT, 1 9 3 5 . — t h e m a r g i n , t h e C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a Memorandum 11 t o R e p r i n t t?.'0 s e p a r a t e by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r I n d i a ( C . P . - I 9 1 (-35)) jets, one r e l a t Lag t o I n d i a and c o v e r i n g a f o r m a ] - R i l l f o r t h e purpose o f r e o r i n t i n g ln ' e other to [Burma t h e Government o f India. A c t , 1935, as t w o - s e p a r a t e A c t s , one r e l a t i n g t o I n d i a and t h e o t h e r t o Burma. (previous I n o r d e r t o s a v e t i m e t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e sought [Reference, [cabihet 43 [ ( 3 5 ) , Cona u t h o r i t y t o p r o c e e d w i t h t h e B i l l i n t h e form t o be [elusion 3 . ) a p p r o v e d by t h e Committee o f Home A f f a i r s w i t h o u t further s a n c t i o n , from t h e Cabinet. The C a b i n e t a p p r o v e d t h e p r o p o s a l o f the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r I n d i a as s e t f o r t h a b o v e . 9. tfWEPIT A110W­ flOFS FOR HILDREN. previous Reference: Cabinet 60 ( 3 3 ) Conclusion 3 ) . The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a N o t e by Minister o f Labour ( C P . - 1 9 0 by t h e Unemployment Insurance Statutory ances for Committee dependant c h i l d r e n should b e allow­ increased -from S / - t o 3 / - a we eh, t o be met out o f a d i s p o s a b l e o f about £ l j m i l l i o n s o f t h e Unemployment Fund. \io. c o v e r i n g a Report c o n t a i n i n g a recommendation t h a t t h e b e n e f i t - surplus dud­ (55)) the his a y e a r i n the The M i n i s t e r c o l l e a g u e s would a g r e e t h a t t h e assumed t h a t Committee's recommendation s h o u l d b e a d o p t e d , b u t , reactions possession owing t o on t h e Unemployment A s s i s t a n c e Scheme, h e suggested that the actual operation of the increase should b e p o s t p o n e d f o r a fe*? weeks by h o l d i n g back t h e House o f Commons R e s o l u t i o n n e c e s s a r y f o r t h e Order i n t o e f f e c t . m h e Report further putting recommended t h a t t h e r e should b e a maximum, o f 4 1 / - t o t h e w e e k l y amount o f b e n e f i t Labour asked, h i s this point of i n any c a s e , but t h e M i n i s t e r colleagues t o aiithori.se him t o d e t a i l with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. A short discussion revealed difficulties Cabinet of a p o l i t i c a l considerable character, and the agreed: (a) That t h e q u e s t i o n s h o u l d be r e f e r r e d t o the C a b i n e t Committee on the R e g u l a t i o n s o f t h e Unemployment A s s i s t a n c e Board w h i c h would d i s c u s s i t i n a p r e l i m i n a r y way t h e same afternoon. (b) That i f the m a t t e r was n o t s e t t l e d t h a t a f t e r n o o n , the Committee s h o u l d i f p o s s i b l e hold a f u r t h e r meeting a t w h i c h the L o r d P r e s i d e n t o f t h e C o u n c i l (who was a b s e n t on p u b l i c b u s i n e s s ) c o u l d be p r e s e n t . of settle­ HYDROGEN CYANIDE. proposed B i l l to c o n t r o l Use of for Puroos es o f Fumigation, 10. The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a Memorandum by , . , t h e Home S e c r e t a r y ( C P . - 1 8 9 ( 3 5 ) ) a s k i n g a u t h o r i t y s t o submit t o t h e Committee o f Feme A f f a i r s Bill to confer a power upon him t o make, i n draft consultation with the Secretary of State for Minister of Health ( a n d , where a p p r o p r i a t e , any Minister specially interested), governing t h e u s e o f hydrogen fumigation ingly and v e r m i n : likely t o human b e i n g s its control over t o b r i n g w i t h i n t h e s c o p e of dangerous exceed­ insects appeared and t h e d e s i r a b i l i t y t i m e been under e x a m i n a t i o n . other as w e l l as t o i t s u s e had. f o r I t was a l s o the B i l l other of T h i s gas was use i n d w e l l i n g - h o u s e s t o become common: some measure o f regulations c y a n i d e f o r t h e purpose in enclosed spaces, lethal S c o t l a n d and t h e of some proposed one or two gases w h i c h m i g h t b e put t o us e . The C a b i n e t a g r e e d t o the above proposal. similar CABINET COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT POLICY. 11. The C a b i n e t agreed: That a C a b i n e t Committee composed as follows: Mr. N e v i l l e Chamberlain ( i n the C h a i r ) , S i r John Simon, Mr. J . H . Thomas, Mr. Malcolm MacDonald, Viscount Hailsham, S i r K i n g s l e y v/ood, Mr. E r n e s t Brown, Mr. W a l t e r E l l i o t , L o r d Eustace P e r c y , s h o u l d make recommendations as t o i t e m s t o be i n c l u d e d i n t h e G o v e r n m e n t s e l e c t i o n programme. 2, W h i t e h a l l G a r d e n s , 16th O c t o b e r , S.W.I., 1935.