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R S T.
Copy N o .
C A B I N E T
49
(.29) .
M e e t i n g o f t h e C a b i n e t t o b e h e l d a t No. 10,
D o w n i n g S t r e e t , S . W . , , o n WEDNESDAY, 2 0 t h
November, 1929, a t 11.0 a . m .
A G E N D A .
1.
FOREIGN A F F A I R S .
2,
THE QUESTION OF GERMAN PROPERTY I N THE UNITED KINGDOM.
3''
THE COALFIELDS DISTRESS FUND.
(Question
4.-
(If
required).
t o be r a i s e d by
the Prime
Minister).
CLOSER UNION I N . E A S T A F R I C A .
(Reference
Cabinet
Memorandum b y t h e
Colonies.
( C P . 308 (29)
48
(29)
Secretary
-
Conclusion
of
already
State
8).,
for
the
circulated):.
Memorandum b y t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r I n d i a .
( C P . 319 ( 2 9 )
already circulated)-;.
Memorandum b y t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r I n d i a , ,
c o v e r i n g c o p i e s of t e l e g r a m s .
( C P . 325 ( 2 9 )
circulated herewith).
5..
THE F A C T O R I E S
(Reference
R e p o r t of
(CP.
6.
BILL
-
QUESTIONS
C a b i n e t 40
(29)
OF
POLICY.
C o n c l u s i o n $) .
Cabinet Committee.
31.5 ( 2 9 )
circulated
herewith;
CONCLUSIONS OF CQMHITf^E OF HOME A F F A I R S .
( R e f e r e n c e H . A . C 1 2 t h C o n c l u s i o n s (29.)
circulated herewith).
The M e n t a l
Treatment
The Crown P r o c e e d i n g s
( C P . 527 ( 2 9 ) --m.
­
Bill.
Bill.
circulated
herewith).
For F r i d a y ,
November-
The M u s i c a l
22nd,
Copyright
Bill.
The Small L a n d h o l d e r s ( S c o t l a n d )
( A m e n d m e n t ) ( N o . 2) B i l l .
For Friday,
November
29th.
C h i l d r e n and Young P e r s o n s
and Protection)
Bill.
Workmen's
Compensation
(Signed)
(Employment
( N o . 2)
M.P.A.
19th
Gardens,
November,
S..W.1.
1929.'
Bill.
HANKEY,
Secretary,
, Whitehall
Acts
Cabinet.
F
I
f
l
T
S
DOCUMSNT I S THE PROPERTY OF H I S BRITANNIC M A J E S T Y ' 3 GOVERNMENT)
j^C R E T .
Oopy N o .
C A B I N E T
49 (29)..
CONCLUSIONS o f a M e e t i n g o f t h e C a b i n e t h e l d
1 0 , D o w n i n g S t r e e t , S . W . 1 . , o n WEDNESDAY,
2 0 t h November, 1929, a t 11.0 a , n ,
PRESENT:-
m
at
The R i g h t H o n . J . Ramsay MacDonald, M . P . ,
Prime M i n i s t e r .
(In the Chair).
Hie R i g h t H o n .
j P h i l i p Snowden, M . P . ,
C h a n c e l l o r of t h e
I Exchequer.
The R i g h t Hon.
Arthur Henderson, M.P.,
S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r
Foreign Affairs.
lie R i g h t H o n .
j J.H. Thomas, M . P . ,
a Lord P r i v y S e a l .
The R i g h t Hon.
Lord P a s s f i e l d ,
Secretary
of S t a t e f o r Dominion A f f a i r s
and Secretary of S t a t e
for the Colonies.
Ike R i g h t H o n .
II L o r d P a r m o o r o f F r i e t h ,
I K.C.V.O.,K.C., Lord
M P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council.
The R i g h t Hon.
Lord Sankey, G.B.E.
Lord Chancellor.
Ihe R i g h t H o n .
I J.R. C l y n e s , M.P. ,
I Secretary of S t a t e
Home A f f a i r s .
The R i g h t Hon.
W. Wedgwood B e n n , D . S . O . ,
D.F.C.,M.P., Secretary of
State for India.
for
Sae R i g h t H o n .
Tom S h a w , O . B . E . , M . ? . ,
Secretary of S t a t e f o r
War.
ie R i g h t H o n .
Arthur Greenwood, M.P. ,
Minister of Health.
ilhe R i g h t H o n .
Noel B u x t o n , M . P . ,
l;4 M i n i s t e r o f A g r i c u l t u r e
and F i s h e r i e s .
Birigf-Gen. The R i g h t Hon.
"Lord Thomson, C . B . B . , D . S . O . ,
S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r
Air.
The R i g h t Hon.
Margaret Bondfield, M.P.,
M i n i s t e r of Labour.
The R i g h t Hon.
S i r Charles Trevelyan, B t . ,
M.P., President of the
Board of Education.
ie R i g h t H o n .
William Graham, M . P . ,
P r e s i d e n t of t h e Board
of T r a d e .
The R i g h t Hon.
A.V. Alexander, M . P . ,
F i r s t Lord of t h e
Admiral t y .
ie R i g h t H o n .
William Adamson, M . P . ,
Secretary of S t a t e f o r
Scotland.
The- R i g h t H o n .
George Lansbury, M . P . ,
F i r s t Commissioner of
Works.
S i r M,P.A. Hankey,
G. C . B . , G . C . M . G .
Secretary.
1*
State
for
After
for
hearing the
Foreign
India,
the
Affairs
Cabinet
colleagues
in refusing
to proceed
to
was t o
attend
presence
could
India,
facts
from t h e
and t h e
Secretary
approved the
a passport
on t h e
t o Mr
an I n d i a n Conference,
of
a c t i o n of
ground t h a t
only contribute
Secretary
where
towards
State
their
Saklatvala
his
of
object
his
unrest.
1,
State
for
After
for
hearing the
Foreign Affairs
India,
the
Cabinet
colleagues
in refusing
to proceed
to
was t o
attend
presence
could
India,
facts
from t h e
and t h e
approved
on t h e
Secretary
the
a passport
action
t o Mr
ground t h a t
an I n d i a n Conference,
only
contribute
Secretary
of
State
their
Saklatvala
his
where
towards
of
of
object
his
unrest.
SALE OP ARMS
AND AMMUNITION,
supply of
Cruisers
to China.
(Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 47
(29), Con­
elusion 9.)
2. The attention of the Cabinet w a s dra.wn b y
the
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to a Memorandum
(Paper C P . - 3 2 4 (29)) he had circulated on the previ­
ous day raising the question of whether Messrs Vickers
& Co. should be informed that they would be granted a
licence for the export o f
to China;
not be
or,
a Cruiser, when completed,
alternatively, that the licence would
granted.
As acceptance of this order b y a British firm is
not contrary to the Arms Traffic Convention (a Conven­
tion w h i c h is aat to be ratified b y H i s Majesty's
Government^-vddshaii 1., m lugltanaotxb ratification b y tfee
priwoipgl- arms-producing States), and having regard
to the faot that if unable to place it with a British
firm the Chinese Government would place the order
elsewhere, the Cabinet agreed
—
That the firms conoerned should be
informed that a lioenoe would be
issued.
3.
llHB HAGUE
After
Exchequer,.
—
gortaan
^property i n
Ithe U n i t e d
iKingdom.
J
Affairs
h e a r i n g from t h e
the
in
regard
arisen with the
s
with the
United
liquidation
German Government
the
at
to
the
of
of
the
the
ten-year
Report
(Cmd.3392),
Board
in
Trade
which
connection
in
the
r e s e r v a t i o n made b y
the
on t h e
of
the
31st August
laid
down i n
Cabinet
both
concerning
i n kind a f t e r
programme
have
Protocol
the Reparation Recovery
the
the
Foreign
of
German p r o p e r t y
pari passu with deliveries
of t h e
of
for
difficulties
i n Annex I I
The H a g u e
application
(a)
State
German Government
Kingdom and
signed
of
a n d t h e P r e s i d e n t - of
statements
1 (Previous
I Reference:
I cabinet 35
[ 2 9 ; , 0ox\­
I elusion 13.)
Secretary
Chancellor
agreed
Acts
the
the
expiry
Experts
-­
To a p p r o v e t h e t e x t o f a s t a t e m e n t
t o be made b y t h e C h a n c e l l o r of t h e
E x c h e q u e r i n t h e B o u s e o f Commons
in reply to a Question, subjeot to
a s m a l l amendment i n a p a s s a g e
r e l a t i n g t o t h e r e i m b u r s e m e n t of
German n a t i o n a l s b y t h e German
Government, so t h a t , w h i l e making
c l e a r t h a t "This i s a m a t t e r w i t h i n
t h e c o m p e t e n c e o f t h e German L e g i s ­
lature
a form of w o r d s m i g h t be
used which could not be construed
ApVSn&ix 1^ P
^ ^a c t i o n . (See
i r
5
0
u
o
n
e
T
(b)
That, as a m a t t e r of p o l i c y , i t i s
e s s e n t i a l t h a t t h e q u e s t i o n of t h e
l i q u i d a t i o n of German p r o p e r t y i n
t h e U n i t e d Kingdom s h o u l d b e made
t h e s u b j e c t o f an a g r e e m e n t b y t h e
C o m m i t t e e a p p o i n t e d b y The H a g u e
Conference to c o n s i d e r such q u e s t i o n s ,
w h i c h i s now s i t t i n g i n P a r i s — a
Committee a t w h i c h t h e German r e p r e ­
sentatives hare throughout adopted
a d i l a t o r y and n o n - c o m m i t t a l a t t i t u d e .
F u r t h e r , t h a t t h e German p r o p a g a n d a
i n t h i s c o u n t r y on t h i s s u b j e c t , a n d
the d i s c l o s u r e to the Press of the
C h a n o e l l o r of t h e E x c h e q u e r ' s
letter
t o t h e German A m b a s s a d o r , w e r e m o s t
imprope r.
(c)
T h a t t h e same p r i n c i p l e a p p l i e s t o
the settlement", before the resumption
o f The Hague C o n f e r e n c e , of t h e
q u e s t i o n of t h e p o s i t i o n of t h e
Reparations Recovery Acts, as
referred t o above.
(d)
That i n t h e
first
instance
the
Secretary
1
of State for Foreign Affairs should see
the German Ambassador on these questions
at an early date and Impress strongly
upon h i m the views of the Cabinet as
set forth above. He should make clear
that the policy of endeavouring to
postpone a settlement of these questions
until the next Session of The Hague
Conference could not succeed and that
they must be cleared up before the
next Session could be held.
It w a s
further agreed that the Secretary of
State for Foreign Affairs should hand
an aide-memoire to the German Ambassador
so that there could be no doubt about
the position of His Majesty's Government
or its determination:
(e) That the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs should circulate to the Cabinet
the usual record of his conversation.
If he should b e unable to obtain a
satisfactory response from the German
Government, the next step should be
considered, particularly the despatch
. of an appropriate letter a s proposed
b y the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
5
fc op.
s
BOND.
4.
urgency,
raised
previous
IBeference:
jCabinet 9
1(29), Oon­
l o l u s i o n 5.)
The P r i m e M i n i s t e r b r o u g h t
the
question
of t h e
during the previous
distress
in the
coalfields,
up, as
a matter
Lord Mayor's
year
­
for
the
a subject
Fund
relief
c e r t a i n l y h a v e t o make
statement
in the
The C a b i n e t
agreed
immediate
of
on w h i c h
Government would a l m o s t
in Parliament
of
a
future.
—
That t h e q u e s t i o n should be p l a c e d
on t h e Agenda a t t h e i r n e x t r e g u l a r
weekly m e e t i n g , and, i n the meantime
(i) the Secretary should c i r c u l a t e
a Report handed t o him by t h e Chan­
c e l l o r of t h e Exchequer;,
and ( i i )
c e r t a i n M i n i s t e r s who h a d b e e n l o o k i n g
into t h i s question should, at t h e i r
d i s c r e t i o n , c i r c u l a t e t h e i r own
remarks.
the
SCOTTISH
?ISHSRXES.
(previous
Reference:
nabinet 33
(24), Con­
elusion 7 . )
5. After h e a r i n g a statement b y the Secretary of
State for Scotland in regard to the recent disaster
to the Scottish fisheries, v/hich had resulted in the
loss of a very large number of fishing-nets, the
Cabinet, while feeling the fullest sympathy w i t h
the victims of this misfortune, felt unable, a s
a
matter of principle, to make a contribution to the
Relief Fund w h i c h was b e i n g raised in Scotland.
-6­
tiST AFRICA.
It
-­
loiioy in.
I Previous
fReference:
Cabinet 48
f (29), ConI elusion 8.)
6. The question of closer union in East Africa,
on which Memoranda had been circulated b y the
Secretary of State for the Colonies (Paper C.P.-308
(29)) and by the Secretary of State for India
C.P.-319 (29) and C P . - 3 2 5
(Paper
( 2 9 ) ) , was postponed until
the next regular weekly meeting of the Cabinet, and
the Secretary w a s instructed to place it as the
second item on the Agenda Paper.
The Prime Minister formulated the principal
questions arising as follows
(i) The general lines of the re-organisation
of the three territories concerned:
(ii) The general attitude to be adopted
o
tw
B
r
d
s
/
X
^
e
n
y
a Constitution, including
the questions of the Official Majority
and the Common Roll.
i
I
He asked his colleagues to read the Memoranda with
especial care and to be ready to express their views
on these questions when the matter came up at the
next Meeting.
The Secretary of State for the Colonies
undertook to supply the Cabinet with
copies of the original White Papers
of 1923 and 1927, dealing with Kenya.
TflS FACTORIES
BILL(previous
Reference:
Cabinet 40
(29). Con­
e l u s i o n 3*.)
7.
The C a b i n e t
Cabinet
Committee
315
(29))
ten
out
by the
had b e f o r e
on t h e
them a Report by
Factories
Bill
c o n t a i n i n g recommendations
of
( P a p e r CYT
in regard
the twelve
questions
submitted
Home S e c r e t a r y
in regard
to the
reserving for
the decision
relating to the
(i)
of
the
the
to
Bill,
Cabinet
to
them
but
matters
following: ­
THE OVERTIME'CLAUSES, w h i o h t h e Com­
n i t t e e c o n s i d e r e d must depend on t h e
d e c i s i o n t o be t a k e n by the Cabinet
w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e n a t u r e of t h e
Clauses to be i n s e r t e d i n the draft
Hours of Employment B i l l .
t
(ii)
THE- TWO-SHIFT SYSTEM ( C l a u s e 8 0 Of
the B i l l ) , namely, as to whether the
s y s t e m s h o u l d be d r o p p e d b o t h from t h e
E x p i r i n g Laws C o n t i n u a n c e B i l l a n d t h e
Factories B i l l , or whether any r e f e r ­
ence t o the system i n the F a c t o r i e s
B i l l s h o u l d b e o m i t t e d and i t s c o n t i n ­
u a n c e a s a t e m p o r a r y me a. s u r e d e f e n d e d
i n t h e E x p i r i n g Laws C o n t i n u a n c e B i l l ,
or whether i t should be dealt with i n
both B i l l s , leaving the principle to
b e d e c i d e d on a p r o p o s a l i n t h e
F a c t o r i e s B i l l t o make t h e s y s t e m a
permanent p a r t of our f a c t o r y l e g i s ­
lation.
The C a b i n e t
Committee,
approved the
subject
to
the
Report
of t h e
Cabinet
following:­
(a)
OVERTIME. A p p r o v a l t o t h e p r o p o s a l
t h a t t h i s should be reserved f o r
consideration in connection with the
Hours of Employment B i l l :
(b)
T h a t t h e c o n t i n u a n c e o f t h e TWO-SHIFT
SYSTEM s h o u l d b e p r o v i d e d f o r i n t h e
E x p i r i n g Laws C o n t i n u a n c e B i l l a s a
t e m p o r a r y n e a s u r e , and thn.t t h e
Government spokesman on t h i s B i l l
should
make
-debated­
(c)
That t h e p r o v i s i o n s to be included i n
the Factories B i l l in regard to the
TWO-SHIFT SYSTEM s h o u l d b e c o n s i d e r e d
a t t h e n e x t w e e k l y M e e t i n g of t h e
C a b i n e t , and t h a t i n t h e meanwhile
t h e P r e s i d e n t o f t h e B o a r d of T r a d e
and t h e F i r s t . Lord of t h e Admiralty­
should confer as t o whether i t ^ould
h e d e s i r a b l e t o c i r c u l a t e a Memorandum
on t h e s u b j e c t a r i s i n g o u t of t h e
i n v e s t i g a t i o n s of t h e , S u b - C o m m i t t e e
of t h e Committee of C i v i l R e s e a r c h
oh t h e C o ^ o n I n d u s t r y .
8.
The Cabinet had before them a Memorandum
(Paper H.A.-29
[previous
fleference.
Cabinet 36
(29), Oon­
clusion 2 and
Appendix. )
(29)) b y the Minister of Health
covering the draft Mental Treatment Bill, which
is designed to give effect to certain urgently
needed improvements In Lunacy Law and Admlnlstra­
tion, arising out of the Report of the Royal
Commission on Lunacy (Cmd.2700 of 1 9 2 6 ) , together
with the recommendations of the Committee of Home
Affairs thereon (H.A.C. 12th Conclusions ( 2 9 ) ,
Paragraph l ) .
In accordance with the recommendations of the
Committee of Home Affairs, the Cabinet agreed
To approve the Introduction in the
House of Lords of the Mental Treat­
ment Bill In the form of the draft
annexed to H.A.-29 ( 2 9 ) , subject t d t ­
(a) the addition of the provision
suggested b y the Minister of
Health ,
(b) such modification of clauses
1(3) and 5(l) as may be agreed
b y the Minister of Healthy the
Attorney-General and Parlia­
mentary Counsel, and
(0)
any drafting or other minor
alterations "that may be found
necessary or desirable.
-
t 7
CROWN
)XNGS
ILL.
Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 36
(29). ConI elusion 2 and
I Appendix.)
9. The Cabinet had before them a Memorandum b y the
Lord Chancellor (Paper H.A.-33
(29)) on the subject of
the Crown Proceedings Bill, together with the reoom­
mendations of the Committee of Home Affairs thereon
(H.A.C. 12th Conclusions
( 2 9 ) , Paragraph 2 ) , and a
Note b y the First Lord of the Admiralty (Paper C.P.­
327 (29)) offering strenuous opposition to Part
II
of the Bill and oriticising some aspects of Parts
and
II.
At the request of the Lord Chanoellor,
w h o had received Departmental objections
to the Bill, the question was reserved
until the next regular w e e k l y Meeting
of the Cabinet.
I
K
THE MUSICAL
COPYRIGHT
BILL.
(Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 4 8
( 2 9 ) . Con­
elusion 1 2 . )
10.
The Cabinet had before them a Musical
Copyright Bill, to be introduced b y a Private
Member on Friday, NDvember 2 2 n d ,
and agreed
That the spokesman for the Board of
Trade on the subject should give as
much Departmental information on the
matter as possible, but Should make
it d e a r that the Government could
give no facilities for the progress
of the Bill.
-11­
-
juTEMELOYMEMP.
apolitical
IParties
I (Co-ope r a t i o n ) ,
11.
The P r i m e M i n i s t e r
Cabinet
to
a statement
Commons o n M o n d a y ,
proposal that
I (Previous
I Reference:
1 Cabinet 45
1 ( 2 9 ) , Oon­
olusion 2.)
2,
held
to
(Appendix
reply to the
Whitehall
November
effect
since
Gardens,
S.W.1,
18th,
his
in
of a l l
the question
To f u r t h e r
b e e n made
November 2 0 ,
Hi
II.).
attention
of
h e h a d made i n t h e House
a Conference
consider
drew the
of
regard to
Parties
a
be
Unemployment
questions
he intended
no approach t o him had
last
statement
-12-
of
should
that
1929.
the
on t h e
to
subject.
I 6
i
AT?PEKDIX
I.
GERMAN PROPBRTY I N THE UNITED KINGDOM.
STATEMENT TO BE MADE IN THE HOUSE OP COMMONS BY
THE CHANCELLOR OP THE EXCHEQUER.
I will
take
these
t h e r e h a s "been a g o o d d e a l
referred
to,
I propose,
make a g e n e r a l
Government
I have
Young Committee
the
surplus
was f u l l y
and t h a t
it
was
the
Creditor
these
the position
of
was t h e
that
of l i q u i d a t i o n
by the E x p e r t s '
intention
intention
of
Governments,
of
the
the Experts
that
of H i s
by t h e
part
such proceeds
the
faots
to
Maj'esty s
r
of the
of
properties
in
Paris
British Experts,
of
all
of
the
liquidation
and t h a t
they
German o b l i g a t i o n s
agreed
of
with
the
no
S3rmany;
to
as
other
in accordance
should be repaid
that
the
disposal
Committee
C r e d i t o r Powers concerned
understanding
on
o f German
the proceeds
should be r e t a i n e d ,
Treaty,
was o n l y o n t h i s
the
the House,
the British Experts
I am i n f o r m e d
proceeds
the reduction
of
consulted
and
properties
of
the leave
of
as
matter.
considered
it
t o g e t h e r and
of m i s u n d e r s t a n d i n g
with
statement
in the
two q u e s t i o n s
to
as proposed
and
it
recommend
in
the
Plan.
The t e x t
of
position
quite
clear.
proposed
in the Report
Germany,
as
defined
the Report,
Section
should
indeed,
8 provides
cover
the
i n t h e Dawes P l a n :
makes
the
that
the
obligations
while
annuities
of
Section
9
provides that the accounts of the Reparation
Commission
relating to the original capital debt should be closed.
The Report proceeds
"The Creditor Governments under this Plan
will be reducing the whole body of their claims
arising out of the war or under the Treaty of
Versailles to a considerable extent. The Experts
of the Creditor countries are aware that past trans­
actions have given or may give rise to claims by
Germany, some of which are still unsettled, and
while they are not able to go into the merits of
these claims, they consider that the Creditor Govern­
ments are fully entitled to expect that Germany
should waive them in consideration of the consolida­
tion of the Creditors claims
at a reduced figure.
Any other course would be inconsistent w i t h their
intention that, just as the new Annuities- cover
all the claims defined in Part XI of the Dawes
Plan, so they should be paid free of deduction in
respect of any past transactions. The Committee
recognises however that this is entirely a matter
for the Governments to deal with".
1
I may explain that the German properties
sequestrated during the war were transferred to the
Creditor Governments as at the date of the entry into force
of the Treaty v i z . 10th January, 1920.
The German Govern­
ment at the same time retained the proceeds of liquidation
of property of Allied nationals in Germany and undertook
to compensate ite own nationals in respect of their
properties liquidated abroad.
The Treaty provided that the
proceeds of liquidation realised by the Creditor Govern­
ments might be applied to meet private claims of their
nationals o n account of debts, property losses and
compensation awards due fcy Germany and that, thereafter, any
surplus might be retained by the Creditor Governments
on account
of their reparation claims.
After the
German schedule of payments was fixed in 1921, the
Reparation Commission decided, and duly informed the German
Government, that any surplus proceeds so retained would be
[I
credited
to
I
properties
3
pay,
I
to
net
Germany
on a c c o u n t
appointed
p l a n and
on a c c o u n t
of t h e
was t a k e n
in
current
into
capital
annuities.
account
1924 and t h e
on t h e
assumption
these
debt
Second E x p e r t s '
German a n n u i t i e s
that
reparation
The l i q u i d a t i o n
by t h e
i n t h e Young P l a n w e r e b a s e d
fixed
on t h e
both
capacity
and
of
these
Committee
in the
of
Dawes
Germany
p r o p e r t i e s were d e f i n i t e l y
to
lost
Germany,
On t w o
before
the
occasions
Interpretation
credits
in r e s p e c t
against
the
claims,
It
recommendec
right
to
Tribunal
on e a c h
also
apply
that
the
liquidate
in the
of t h e
of t h e
liquidation
yet
been
all
the
creditor
ooming i n t o
Government
other
exact
out
into
effect,
the
of
that
agreed
on t h e s e
that
the
that
force
of
t h e Young P l a n .
that
it
is
quite untrue
In
to
different
in Europe
liquidations.
Conference
the
entrusted
to
the
recommendations
to
the
representatives
German
this
not
of
Govern­
as a condition
say
of
connection,
that
from t h a t
in t h i s
their
Committee has
the
balances,
Young.
putting
the Experts r e l a t i n g
I am i n f o r m e d
Governments
the
these
that
t h e Hague
for
of
Committee
of p a s t
which has been
of
the
discontinue
proceeds
at
I
these
contemplate
required
The r e p o r t
claims
not
"to apply
under
t h e Young
should
did
of P a r t
has rejected
payable
while
for
property
t h e Young p l a n ,
required
Conference
are pursuing a policy
creditor
of
formula
Governments a r e
nent must waive a l l
they
therefore
past".
completed but
that
Governments
IX o f t h e R e p o r t
of t h e
should p o i n t
clear
o f German
Tribunal
8 of
claims
Dawes P l a n
by S e c t i o n I I
annuities
any p a r t
s e t up by t h a t
Chapter
Section
future,
the
of l i q u i d a t i o n
defined
the
Crecitor
above r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s
Committee
of
to
The o n l y a c t i o n
drafting
as
t o bo q u i t e
Germany s h o u l d b e r e p a i d
was t h e
s e t up u n d e r
occasion the
terms
the
appears
German G o v e r n m e n t r a i s e d
of the p r o c e e d s
but
and u n d e r
decisions will
Plan.
the
German a n n u i t i e s
t h e Dawes P l a n ,
the
of the
matter.
the
of
I
British
the
neither
France
nor
intention
I t a l y nor Belgium,
of
returning
the proceeds
of p a s t
undertaken
t o do i s
properties
not
His l & j e s t y ^
yet
to
liquid,
and
they
German p r o p e r t i e s
arrangements
in
instance
nationals.
The s u r p l u s ,
offered
enter
the cessation
suspended
liquidations
the p a s t ,
in this
the
for
country
treaty
is
for
of
or
release
disposed
into
Of
of.
a
future
a s from
the
as the proceeds
returning
the
claims
on r e p a r a t i o n
of
b u l k of
British
the
This
of c o u r s e be
it
to
merchant
account
in
money.
£14 m i l l i o n s ,
realised.
the
of
above been used
about
returning
liquidation
the
Is
surplus,
earmarked
of any p a r t i c u l a r
case for
than for
Treaty deliveries
is
at
of
in accordance with
the great
cannot
no b e t t e r
to
the private
estimated
balance,
have
referred
meeting
which
the proceeds
being a general
Government
or f i n a l l y
to
any
any p a r t
and to
regards
it
is
have
t h e y have done
liquidations
paid, t o t h e E x c h e q u e r a s
there
All
liquidated
have
This accounts
identified
I am a w a r e ,
last.
As r e g a r d s
first
as
as
German Government
suspend
Government
liquidations,
the
liquidations.
similar arrangement,
31st August
tc
so f a r
property
the
or
and
German
ships
or
other
made" b y G e r m a n y
in
1920.
His Majesty's
of
this
surplus forms
and t h e y w i l l
modification
an i n t e g r a l
i n no c i r c u m s t a n c e s
of
the
Plan,
would be i n v o l v e d by t h e
German
at
consi&er
part
agree
the expense
return
of
1
the
hardships
this,
I must
sustained
by
for
is
the
to
of
any
retention
this
of
Plan,
such
country,
this
not be understood
received
of
the
the Experts'
any p a r t
c o n c e r n e d who h a v e n o t y e t
in
of
that
sum t o
as
the
Government.
In saying
looking
Government
the
Treaty but
German
this
Legislature.
fiv*
t h e German
over­
nationals
the compensation
a matter within
as
the
provided
competence
His Majesty" s Government
very substantially
individuals,
have
to alleviate
w i t h whom I h a v e
releases,
granted
of
recommendation
of
Trade
In a d d i t i o n ,
have o f f e r e d ,
of
the
not yet
the
a further
£5 m i l l i o n s .
I believe
-
of
Thus His
procedure
the
to waive claims
dollar
estimated
esty s
adopted,
or claims
to
have
valued at
likely
the renunciation
the fullest
and
c a n be d o n e ,
of
measure
i n my o p i n i o n
to
less
the
desire
it
the Treaty ultimately
to
be
will,
over
which
released
Governments.
of
these
claims
of g e n e r o s i t y w h i c h c a n
gives
offeet,
which I have
responsibility
worth
released
or are
the European c r e d i t o r
be
Government
1
to
securities
have been r e l e a s e d
of
total
;
Majesty's
(including
litigation)
Tho
t h a n a n y sums
represents
of
the.
amount
s e e m s t o me t h a t
position
His
grounds,
a much l a r g e r
by any o t h e r
justiflod
this;
Yc.un£ C o u m i . t t . e e , ,
German p r o p e r t i e s
£10 m i l l i o n s
It
subject
under
Youn^ P l a n i s d e f i n i t e l y
altogether
on
in accordance, w i t h
liquidated
which are
when t h e
sympathy,
the Blanesburgh Committee.
exceeds £5 m i l l i o n s .
properties
had. much
especially
released
recommendation
of
on h u m a n i t a r i a n
of propex^ties a l r e a d y
Government
contributed
the hardships
always
by t h e d i s c r e t i o n a r y
by t h e Board
indeed,
to see
abandoned.
as fully
expressed
these
be
as
when i n
provisions
a
APPENDIX
II.
B3ETRACT FROM PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES,
"
HOUSE OF COMMONS.'
Monday.
November 1 8 t h .
1929.
UNEMPLOYMENT .
Political
48.
Parties
(Co-operation).
MR. P H I L I P OLIVER a s k e d
would be p r e p a r e d ,
in consultation with the
two O p p o s i t i o n p a r t i e s ,
of Members of
schemes
all
the Prime M i n i s t e r
to
parties
are practicable
appoint
a
to advise
for
whether
leaders
Committee
as
the
comprised
to what
dealing with
of
he
further
the problem
of
unemployment?
81.
MR. MANDER a s k e d
prepared
to
consider
the
the
Lord P r i v y S e a l w h e t h e r he
appointment
from Members
of
all
parties
the
of
the
unemployment
solution
THE PRIME M I N I S T E R :
immediately
the
after
Lord P r i v y
responsibility
for
s e e i n g how f a r
he
believed
to
devise
existed
remind
policy,
in all
impracticable,
for
As r e g a r d s
t h e House, t h a t
such a proposal
In the
speech t h a t
to
but
my r i g h t
safeguarding
and
an a l l
w h e n we w e r e
I could
in
party
made
Friend
intention
in the
dealing with
he
hon.
t h e good w i l l
of
w h i c h we
country
generally
the problem
Committee
of
,
I
should
i n o p p o s i t i o n we m a d e
our p r e d e c e s s o r s ,
if
him
Government
announced h i s
parties
assist
drawn
problem?
could mobilise
a programme
unemployment.
while
a Committee
i n t h e House t o
we t o o k o f f i c e ,
Seal,
of
is
who r e g a r d e d
see anything
which
it
as
would
justify
the belief
prepared
to
be o b t a i n e d ,
of
the
that
co-operate
always
Government,
representations.
the p a r t i e s
and t h a t
safeguarding
I
opposite
useful
the
should be w i l l i n g
were
results
would
responsibility
to
consider