(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/128/10 Image Reference:0046 THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY Printed OP HIS for the Cabinet. BRITANNIC December MAJESTY*S GOVERNMENT 1947 Copy N o . 4 6 SECRET C M . (17) 95th Conclusions C A B I N E T . 95 (47) CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet on Monday, 15th December, held at 10 Downing 1947. at 11 a.m. Street, S.W. 1, Present: T h e R i g h t H o n . C . R. A T T L E E , M . P . , P r i m e M i n i s t e r (in the The Right Hon. HERBERT MORRISON, M.P., L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council. Chair). The Right Hon. ERNEST BEVIN, M.P., S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for F o r e i g n Affairs. The R i g h t Hon. A . V . ALEXANDER, M . P . , M i n i s t e r of Defence. The R i g h t H o n . S i r STAFFORD C R I P P S , K.C., M . P . , Chancellor of t h e Exchequer. The Right Hon. VISCOUNT ADDISON, The R i g h t Hon. VISCOUNT JOWITT, L o r d Chancellor. Lord P r i v y Seal. The R i g h t H o n . J . C H U T E R E D E , M . P . , T h e R i g h t H o n . A . C R E E C H J O N E S , M . P . , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for t h e Secretary of S t a t e for the H o m e Colonies. Department, The R i g h t H o n . P . J . N O E L - B A K E R , The Right Hon. T H E EARL OF M.P., Secretary of State for LISTOWEL, S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for Commonwealth R e l a t i o n s . Burma. The R i g h t H o n . A . W O O D B U R N , M . P . , T h e R i g h t H o n . G. A . I S A A C S , M . P . , M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d N a t i o n a l Secretary of S t a t e for Scotland. Service. The R i g h t H o n . A N E U R I N B E V A N , M . P . , T h e R i g h t H o n . T . W I L L I A M S , M . P . , Minister of Agriculture and Minister of H e a l t h . Fisheries. The R i g h t H o n . G E O R G E T O M L I N S O N , T h e R i g h t H o n . J . H . W I L S O N , M . P . , M.P., M i n i s t e r of E d u c a t i o n . P r e s i d e n t of t h e B o a r d of T r a d e . T h e following w e r e also p r e s e n t : The R i g h t H o n . J O H N STRACHEY, M.P., T h e R i g h t H o n . G. R. S T R A U S S , M . P . , Minister of Food (Item 6). M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y (Item 5). The R i g h t H o n . L O R D NATHAN, M i n i s t e r T h e R i g h t H o n . C . W . K E Y , M . P . , of Civil A v i a t i o n (Item 5). M i n i s t e r of W o r k s (Item 4). The R i g h t H o n . W . W H I T E L E Y , M . P . , P a r l i a m e n t a r y Secretary, T r e a s u r y (Items 1-2). Secretariat: S i r N O R M A N BROOK. 34725-2 Mr. W . S. M U R R I E . Mr. S. E . V . L U K E . CABINET 95 (47) CONTENTS Minute No. 1 2 Subject D e a t h of E a r l B a l d w i n M a r r i a g e of H . R . H . T h e P r i n c e s s E l i z a b e t h Civil List 3 Provision. E c o n o m i c Affairs Man-Power. Production. Stocks. Overseas Economic D r a i n on Reserves. Publicity. 4 .... .... .... .... .... .... 146 .... .... .... .... .... 147 Position. Investment Programme P r i o r i t y for B u i l d i n g 5 Page 145 145 Labour. Civil A v i a t i o n Enquiry into Tudor 147 Aircraft. 6 White Fish Industry 7 C o u n c i l of F o r e i g n M i n i s t e r s . . . . 149 .... .... 150 Death of Earl 1. The Prime Minister said t h a t the Cabinet would have h e a r d Baldwin. w i t h r e g r e t of t h e d e a t h of E a r l B a l d w i n . I n accordance w i t h p r e c e d e n t the leaders of the political P a r t i e s w o u l d p a y t r i b u t e to fiis memory w h e n P a r l i a m e n t met t h a t a f t e r n o o n ; a n d he h a d been c o n s i d e r i n g w h e t h e r P a r l i a m e n t should t h e r e a f t e r be a d j o u r n e d u n t i l the following day. T h e w e i g h t of the p r e c e d e n t s w a s i n favour of a d j o u r n i n g ; but, as the C h r i s t m a s Recess w a s so near, i t m i g h t be t h o u g h t inconvenient to lose a whole day of P a r l i a m e n t a r y time. I n discussion there w a s general s u p p o r t for the view that, as the p r e s s u r e on P a r l i a m e n t a r y time w a s now so great, t h e r e w a s m u c h to be said a g a i n s t a n y a u t o m a t i c p r a c t i c e of a d j o u r n i n g both H o u s e s of P a r l i a m e n t for a whole day on the d e a t h of a former P r i m e M i n i s t e r . T h i s w a s not, however, a m a t t e r on w h i c h any controversy should be allowed to develop between the P a r t i e s ; and, if t h e r e w a s a n y s u b s t a n t i a l body of opinion a m o n g Conservative Members in favour of a d j o u r n i n g t h e H o u s e oh this occasion, the G o v e r n m e n t should meet t h e i r wishes. The C a b i n e t — I n v i t e d the Chief W h i p to take soundings about the probable views of Conservative M e m b e r s ; and. a g r e e d t h a t P a r l i a m e n t should not be a d j o u r n e d for t h e d a y as a m a r k of respect for the memory of the late E a r l B a l d w i n unless there w a s reason to believe t h a t a s u b s t a n t i a l body of opinion a m o n g Conservative Members would p r e f e r "that course. * * N O T E . — I n the event both Houses of Parliament were adjourned for one day as a mark of respect for the memory of t h e late Earl Baldwin—the House of Commons on 15th December, and the House of Lords on 17th December. M a r r i a g e of H.R.H. The Princess Elizabeth. Civil List Provision. (Previous Preference: CM. (47) 93rd Conclusions, Minute 5.) 2. T h e C a b i n e t discussed t h e line to be t a k e n on behalf of the G o v e r n m e n t i n t h e f o r t h c o m i n g debates on the R e p o r t of the Select C o m m i t t e e on the Civil List. T h e Cabinet h a d agreed t h a t t h e Chancellor of t h e Exchequer should suggest to the Select Committee t h a t the t o t a l provision to be m a d e to H e r R o y a l H i g h n e s s T h e P r i n c e s s E l i z a b e t h and. H i s Royal H i g h n e s s The D u k e of E d i n b u r g h should be £45,000 a year. The Select Committee h a d i n the event recommended, by a majority, a t o t a l provision of £50,000 a year. Of the n i n e L a b o u r members of the Committee five h a d voted in favour of the suggestion originally m a d e to the Committee by the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r w i t h the C a b i n e f s a p p r o v a l : three, i n c l u d i n g the P r i m e M i n i s t e r , h a d voted for the l a r g e r figure : t h e Chancellor of the Exchequer, a s C h a i r ­ m a n , h a d not voted. T h e Cabinet were informed- of the proceedings i n the Select Committee a n d t h e circumstances a t t e n d i n g the t a k i n g of t h i s vote. T h e P r i m e M i n i s t e r h a d desired to' avoid d i v i d i n g the Committee on P a r t y lines, a n d h a d t h o u g h t t h a t a u n a n i m o u s recommendation could be obtained on the basis of the h i g h e r figure. The C a b i n e t A g r e e d t h a t the Government should, commend to P a r l i a ­ ment ( w i t h the s u p p o r t of the G o v e r n m e n t W h i p * ) the recommendation m a d e by t h e m a j o r i t y of the Select Com­ mittee on the Civil L i s t r e g a r d i n g the financial provision to be m a d e for H e r R o y a l H i g h n e s s The P r i n c e s s Elizabeth a n d H i s Royal H i g h n e s s T h e D u k e of E d i n b u r g h . * N O T E . — I n the light of views expressed by the Parliamentary Labour Party on 17th December, the decision was in the event left to a free vote. 34725-2 Economic 3. T h e C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a note by the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r ( C P . (47) 332) covering the second of his periodical r e p o r t s on the economic s i t u a t i o n . Affairs. (Previous Reference: T h e following p o i n t s w e r e r a i s e d in discussion :— C M . (47) 92nd Conclusions, Minute 2.) Man-Power. Production. Stocks. Overseas Economic Position. Drain on Reserves. Publicity. W a s there not scope for a more s u s t a i n e d a n d better co-ordinated drive to r e c r u i t labour for t h e textile i n d u s t r i e s ? The Cabinet were i n f o r m e d t h a t R e g i o n a l Officers of the D e p a r t m e n t s concerned were now e x a m i n i n g the possibility of d i v e r t i n g female labour from other i n d u s t r i e s i n the textile a r e a s . The suggestion w a s made that r e c r u i t m e n t m i g h t be assisted if a d d i t i o n a l day nurseries were pro­ vided i n these a r e a s e i t h e r by the local a u t h o r i t i e s w i t h increased G o v e r n m e n t g r a n t s or by t h e factories. A g a i n s t this, it was argued t h a t a n y s u b s t a n t i a l increase i n the r a t e of Government g r a n t would seriously weaken the local a u t h o r i t i e s ' sense of financial respon­ sibility; a n d t h a t the provision of d a y n u r s e r i e s in factories might be d a n g e r o u s from the p o i n t of view of the c h i l d r e n ' s health. I t w a s suggested t h a t the p r o d u c t i o n t a r g e t s set for the textile i n d u s t r i e s m i g h t be raised. I t w a s suggested t h a t the p r o d u c t i o n of a n t h r a c i t e might be s t i m u l a t e d by a suitable p u b l i c i t y c a m p a i g n in the anthracite d i s t r i c t s i n S o u t h W a l e s designed to b r i n g home to the miners the r e l a t i o n between the e x p o r t of a n t h r a c i t e a n d the i m p o r t of Canadian w h e a t a n d o t h e r food-stuffs. A n x i e t y w a s expressed, about the c o n t i n u e d decline in stocks of p i g i r o n a n d scrap, and. t h e question w a s r a i s e d whether effective measures h a d been t a k e n to e n s u r e the efficient collection of scrap. H a d every effort been m a d e to release s u r p l u s s h i p p i n g for con­ version i n t o s c r a p ? M i n i s t e r s recalled t h a t when the future of Rosyth D o c k y a r d w a s discussed by the Defence Committee on 8 t h A u g u s t (D.O. (47) 19th M e e t i n g , M i n u t e 3), it h a d been sug­ gested t h a t H . M . D o c k y a r d s should be employed on the breaking up of ships. H a d a n y action been t a k e n on t h i s suggestion ? The C a b i n e t w e r e i n f o r m e d t h a t the Defence Committee were shortly to consider w h e t h e r five c a p i t a l ships should now be scrapped. Should special efforts be m a d e to e x p o r t a d d i t i o n a l tractors immediately to E u r o p e a n countries in time for the s p r i n g ploughing? I t w a s p o i n t e d out t h a t 25 p e r cent, of t h e total United. Kingdom t r a c t o r o u t p u t w a s allocated for export, a n d t h a t this figure could n o t be increased w i t h o u t p r e j u d i c e to home a g r i c u l t u r e . I t was agreed, however, t h a t the B o a r d of T r a d e should consider whether the e x p o r t of t r a c t o r s d u r i n g the n e x t two m o n t h s might be adjusted to the i m m e d i a t e needs of the E u r o p e a n countries in time for the spring ploughing. T h e r e h a d been no i m p r o v e m e n t in the r a t e of d r a i n on the G o v e r n m e n t s gold a n d dollar reserves. I m p o r t prices h a d con­ t i n u e d to rise, a n d the d i s p a r i t y between i m p o r t a n d export prices h a d f u r t h e r increased. Discussions w i t h the I n d i a n a n d Pakistan G o v e r n m e n t s w o u l d s t a r t early i n J a n u a r y . A satisfactory agree­ m e n t m i g h t still be reached w i t h the C a n a d i a n Government, who were, however, anxious to ease t h e i r own dollar position by selling to the U n i t e d S t a t e s food-stuffs a n d r a w m a t e r i a l s which we wished to obtain. A t a recent meeting of the P a r l i a m e n t a r y L a b o u r P a r t y it had been suggested t h a t the G o v e r n m e n t should provide Members of P a r l i a m e n t w i t h p e r i o d i c a l r e p o r t s on the economic situation. Would there be a n y objection to t h e circulation to Members of a document on the lines of the Economic Bulletins p r e p a r e d by the Economic Information Unit? I t w a s agreed t h a t t h i s proposal should be further examined. The Cabinet— (1) I n v i t e d the M i n i s t e r of H e a l t h , i n consultation w i t h the M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d the P r e s i d e n t of the Board of T r a d e , to consider w h e t h e r a d d i t i o n a l day nurseries m i g h t be p r o v i d e d as a means of encouraging recruit­ m e n t to the textile i n d u s t r i e s ; ft 147 C M . 95 (57) (2) I n v i t e d the P r e s i d e n t of the B o a r d of T r a d e to consider w h e t h e r the p r o d u c t i o n t a r g e t s for t h e textile i n d u s t r i e s m i g h t be r a i s e d ; (3) I n v i t e d t h e M i n i s t e r of Fuel a n d P o w e r to consider w h e t h e r the o u t p u t of a n t h r a c i t e m i g h t be increased by a suitable p r o p a g a n d a c a m p a i g n among the m i n e r s concerned; (4) Invited, t h e Chancellor of the Exchequer, a f t e r consultation w i t h the M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y a n d the F i r s t L o r d of the A d m i r a l t y , to submit a r e p o r t on the a r r a n g e m e n t s for collecting steel s c r a p , i n c l u d i n g the b r e a k i n g u p of ships i n ELM. D o c k y a r d s ; (5) I n v i t e d t h e P r e s i d e n t of the B o a r d of T r a d e to consider w h e t h e r the e x p o r t p r o g r a m m e for t r a c t o r s could be a d j u s t e d so as to d i v e r t e x p o r t s d u r i n g the coming m o n t h s to those countries where they could be p u t to most profitable use in the s p r i n g p l o u g h i n g ; (6) I n v i t e d t h e L o r d P r e s i d e n t a n d the Chancellor of t h e E x c h e q u e r to consider a n d . r e p o r t on the proposal t h a t the Government should m a k e available to Members of P a r l i a m e n t periodical r e p o r t s on the economic s i t u a t i o n . Investment Programme. (Previous Reference: C M . (47) 8 1 s t Conclusions, Minute 4.) Priority for Building Labour. 4. T h e C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m m e m o r a n d a by the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r ( C P . (47) 334) a n d the M i n i s t e r of H e a l t h ( C P . (47) 329) r e g a r d i n g a decision of the P r o d u c t i o n Committee t h a t W . B . A . p r i o r i t y for b u i l d i n g labour should i n f u t u r e be l i m i t e d to a very small n u m b e r of b u i l d i n g projects of n a t i o n a l urgency. The Minister of Health said t h a t the proposal p u t f o r w a r d i n his p a p e r was t h a t local a u t h o r i t y h o u s i n g schemes should continue to enjoy W . B . A . p r i o r i t y for a f u r t h e r period of a t least six m o n t h s . H e now believed, however, t h a t the essential needs of the local a u t h o r i t y h o u s i n g p r o g r a m m e m i g h t be met by other m e a n s ; a n d he would p r e f e r to discuss his revised proposals in the first i n s t a n c e w i t h the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r , the M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d the M i n i s t e r of W o r k s . The C a b i n e t Took note t h a t the M i n i s t e r of H e a l t h would discuss w i t h the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r , the M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d the M i n i s t e r of W o r k s proposals for s a f e g u a r d i n g the supply of labour for the local a u t h o r i t y h o u s i n g p r o g r a m m e . C i 5 i l Aviation. (Previous Reference: C.M.(47)38th Conclusions, Minute 7.) Enquiry into Tudor Aircraft. 5. The C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a m e m o r a n d u m by the M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y a n d the M i n i s t e r of Civil A v i a t i o n ( C P . (47) 331) covering a proof of a n i n t e r i m R e p o r t on the T u d o r I a i r c r a f t by a Committee a p p o i n t e d to e n q u i r e into t h e development a n d p r o d u c t i o n of T u d o r a i r c r a f t for the B r i t i s h A i r w a y s C o r p o r a t i o n s . T h e m e m o r a n d u m s t a t e d t h a t i n P a r l i a m e n t a n d the press keen i n t e r e s t w a s t a k e n in the outcome of t h i s Committee's enquiry, a n d recommended t h a t the R e p o r t should be presented to P a r l i a m e n t a t once w i t h o u t a n y s t a t e m e n t of t h e G o v e r n m e n t s a t t i t u d e t o w a r d s findings. I n discussion there w a s general s u p p o r t for the view t h a t t h i s R e p o r t should n o t be published u n t i l t h e Government h a d h a d t i m e to define their a t t i t u d e t o w a r d s i t s findings a n d to consider w h e t h e r the s i t u a t i o n w h i c h it disclosed called for any modifications of Government policy. T h e R e p o r t provided m a t e r i a l for c r i t i c i s m which would be directed, n o t merely a g a i n s t the B r i t i s h Overseas A i r w a y s C o r p o r a t i o n , b u t a g a i n s t the M i n i s t r i e s of Civil A v i a t i o n a n d S u p p l y a n d a g a i n s t the G o v e r n m e n t ; a n d i t w a s expedient t h a t the G o v e r n m e n t should have t i m e to consider, before the R e p o r t w a s published, w h a t could be said to forestall or m i t i g a t e such criticism. O p p o r t u n i t y should also be t a k e n to consider w h a t could be s a i d to offset the p r e j u d i c i a l effects w h i c h the publication of the R e p o r t i t s aj m i g h t h a v e i n foreign countries. T h e r e w a s the f u r t h e r point t h a t some of the specific recommendations (e.g., t h a t the Government should h i r e T u d o r I a i r c r a f t to the C o r p o r a t i o n s ) should not be t h r o w n open for public discussion long in advance of the expression of the G o v e r n m e n t s views u p o n them. T h e C a b i n e t s conclusion was t h a t the publication of the Report should be delayed so t h a t they m i g h t have a n o p p o r t u n i t y to formu­ l a t e t h e i r views on i t a n d to decide Avhat s t a t e m e n t should be made on their behalf simultaneously w i t h its publication. Meanwhile, t h e M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y should say, in reply to enquiries, t h a t the R e p o r t h a d been received a n d w a s being considered. Discussion then t u r n e d on the r e l a t i o n s between the Airways C o r p o r a t i o n s a n d the M i n i s t r i e s of Civii A v i a t i o n a n d Supply, as reflected i n t h i s R e p o r t , T h e C a b i n e t were informed t h a t the responsible M i n i s t e r s w e r e n o t satisfied w i t h the e x i s t i n g procedure by which t h e M i n i s t r y of S u p p l y o r d e r e d civil a i r c r a f t from manu­ f a c t u r e r s as a g e n t s of the Corporations, a n d t h a t they were already c o n s i d e r i n g how this p r o c e d u r e should be modified. T h e suggestion w a s m a d e in discussion t h a t much of t h e e x i s t i n g difficulty might be obviated if civil a i r c r a f t were ordered by the Government or by a G o v e r n m e n t C o r p o r a t i o n a n d leased to the operators. U n d e r the e x i s t i n g d i s t r i b u t i o n of responsibilities one of the inherent difficul­ ties w a s t h a t t h e first concern of the C o r p o r a t i o n s w a s the most efficient o p e r a t i o n of t h e i r services, while the Government h a d also to have r e g a r d to the f u t u r e of t h e B r i t i s h a i r c r a f t i n d u s t r y . T h e C a b i n e t were also informed t h a t the M i n i s t e r of Civil A v i a t i o n w a s concerned a t the r e l a t i o n s between the A i r w a y s C o r p o r a t i o n s a n d the M i n i s t r y , as established by the Civil Aviation Act, 1946, a n d w a s a l r e a d y considering w h e t h e r there was a case for a m e n d i n g legislation which would c r e a t e a Board corresponding to the B o a r d s for socialised i n d u s t r i e s . I n this connection various a r g u m e n t s w e r e used for b r i n g i n g the Corporations u n d e r closer supervision a n d control by the responsible Minister. Thus, i t was e m b a r r a s s i n g t h a t the C o r p o r a t i o n s should be free to issue, without consultation w i t h the M i n i s t e r , s t a t e m e n t s b e a r i n g on Government policy. I t w a s also suggested t h a t the B r i t i s h Overseas Airways C o r p o r a t i o n h a d not always been the w i l l i n g agents of Government policy a n d h a d on occasion sought to f r u s t r a t e the execution of decisions t a k e n by the Government. The C a b i n e t ­ (1) A g r e e d t h a t p u b l i c a t i o n of the I n t e r i m R e p o r t of the Committee of E n q u i r y i n t o t h e T u d o r A i r c r a f t should be delayed u n t i l they h a d had a n o p p o r t u n i t y of defining t h e i r a t t i t u d e t o w a r d s i t s specific recommendations and t h e i r views on t h e relations, as reflected in the Report, between the M i n i s t r i e s of Civil A v i a t i o n a n d Supply, the A i r w a y s C o r p o r a t i o n s a n d the a i r c r a f t manufacturers i n respect of the o r d e r i n g of a i r c r a f t for operation by the Corporations. (2) I n v i t e d the L o r d P r e s i d e n t , the Chancellor of the E x c h e q u e r , the L o r d P r i v y Seal a n d the Ministers of Civil A v i a t i o n a n d S u p p l y to consider the immediate issues r a i s e d by the R e p o r t , a n d to submit to the Cabinet a d r a f t s t a t e m e n t of the G o v e r n m e n t s views on these issues for p u b l i c a t i o n simultaneously w i t h the Report. (3) Took note t h a t the L o r d P r e s i d e n t would a r r a n g e for the Committee on the Socialisation of I n d u s t r i e s to consider t h e s t a t u t o r y relations of the M i n i s t e r of Civil Aviation w i t h the A i r w a y s C o r p o r a t i o n s a n d such other questions of long-term policy i n respect of civil aviation as might a r i s e from the e x a m i n a t i o n of the R e p o r t by the M i n i s t e r s n a m e d in Conclusion (2) above. 149 White Fish Industry. 23 C M . 95 (17) 6. T h e Cabinet h a d before t h e m — ... i by the M i n i s t e r of A g r i c u l t u r e a n d t h e Secretary of S t a t e for Scotland ( C P . (47) 328) o u t l i n i n g proposals for the establishment of a W h i t e F i s h P r o d u c ­ tion B o a r d to r e o r g a n i s e , r e g u l a t e a n d develop the w h i t e fish i n d u s t r y ; a n d (ii) A m e m o r a n d u m by the M i n i s t e r of Food ( C P . (47) 325) s e t t i n g out his objections to these proposals a n d sugges­ t i n g t h a t a F i s h E x e c u t i v e should be established to secure improvements in the t r a w l i n g fleet for n e a r a n d middle w a t e r s a n d i n the facilities for h a n d l i n g a n d m a r k e t i n g fish, a n d t h a t p l a n s should be p r e p a r e d for n a t i o n a l i s i n g the wholesaling of fish i n the n e x t Parliament. A m e m o r a n c u m The Cabinet were i n f o r m e d t h a t the conflicting views of the F i s h e r i e s M i n i s t e r s a n d of the M i n i s t e r of Food h a d been considered by the L o r d P r e s i d e n t s Committee, w h o h a d r e m i t t e d the m a t t e r to a sub-committee u n d e r the c h a i r m a n s h i p of the M i n i s t e r of T r a n s p o r t . The recommendations of t h i s sub-committee, which were b r o a d l y i n line w i t h t h e proposals i n C P . (47) 328, h a d been a p p r o v e d by the L o r d P r e s i d e n t s Committee on 12th A u g u s t , the M i n i s t e r of Food alone dissenting. I t w a s e x p l a i n e d t h a t the p r i m a r y object of the proposals of the F i s h e r i e s M i n i s t e r s w a s to create conditions i n w h i c h t r a w l e r - o w n e r s w h o fished in t h e n e a r a n d m i d d l e w a t e r s could make a living. T h o u g h t h e i r e a r n i n g s h a d been h i g h since the w a r , m a n y of them needed n e w vessels w h i c h would p r o v i d e better methods of c a t c h i n g a n d h a n d l i n g fish, a n d better accommodation for the crews. More­ over, w i t h o u t some measure of r e o r g a n i s a t i o n a n d r e g u l a t i o n of l a n d i n g s , the m a r k e t would a g a i n be flooded w i t h inferior fish from the more d i s t a n t w a t e r s a n d those fishermen who c a u g h t the better qualities of fish would be driven out of business. T h e proposed P r o d u c t i o n B o a r d would consist of i n d e p e n d e n t members a n d would be subject to the directions of the F i s h e r i e s M i n i s t e r s , who could see t h a t it did n o t p u r s u e a restriccionist policy. I n discussion the following p o i n t s were r a i s e d :— (a) A W h i t e F i s h P r o d u c t i o n B o a r d , even t h o u g h i t consisted of i n d e p e n d e n t members a n d o p e r a t e d subject to the direction of the Fisheries M i n i s t e r s , would t e n d to look at t h e problems of the i n d u s t r y too much from the p o i n t of view of the producer. For t h i s reason some M i n i s t e r s were inclined to favour a scheme u n d e r w h i c h a n y necessary powers for r e o r g a n i s a t i o n , r e g u l a t i o n and development of the i n d u s t r y would be exercised by the Fisheries D e p a r t m e n t s themselves or by a body similar to the development councils u n d e r the I n d u s t r i a l O r g a n i s a t i o n a n d Development Act, 1947. (b) I n s t e a d of a t t e m p t i n g to improve the fishing fleet by the m e r g e r of t r a w l e r - o w n e r s a n d by g r a n t i n g loans for the b u i l d i n g of new fishing vessels, would i t n o t be better to set u p a Government o r g a n i s a t i o n w h i c h would build t r a w l e r s a n d h i r e them to fishermen (c) T h o u g h some of the vessels fishing in the m i d d l e a n d n e a r w a t e r s were obsolete, t h e A d m i r a l t y h a d t r a n s f e r r e d to fishermen since the w a r a l a r g e n u m b e r of newly-built motor vessels a n d h a d g i v e n s u b s t a n t i a l financial assistance for the r e c o n d i t i o n i n g of t r a w l e r s which h a d been taken for w a r service. (d) The Fisheries M i n i s t e r s h a d suggested t h a t , as the M i n i s t e r of Food would r e t a i n complete control of t h e q u a n t i t i e s of foreign­ c a u g h t fish landed i n t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m , he could by a d j u s t i n g i m p o r t s prevent a n y e x p l o i t a t i o n by U n i t e d K i n g d o m producers. I t should, however, be noted t h a t once we h a d overcome our p r e s e n t balance of p a y m e n t s difficulties w e should probably have inter­ n a t i o n a l obligations which would m a k e i t impossible to make sudden changes i n the q u a n t i t i e s of f o r e i g n - c a u g h t fish a d m i t t e d to the United Kingdom. ? (e) T h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m fishing i n d u s t r y would have to face i n c r e a s i n g competition from t h e fleets of other E u r o p e a n countries, i n c l u d i n g Russia. (/) T h e m a x i m u m fish prices o r i g i n a l l y fixed by the Ministry of Food h a d p e r h a p s n o t allowed sufficiently for differences in quality, b u t the price schedules h a d recently been adjusted to remedy t h i s defect. T h e general view of the C a b i n e t was t h a t , in the light of the p o i n t s m a d e in discussion, a f u r t h e r a t t e m p t should be made to evolve a scheme w h i c h would improve the efficiency of the fishing i n d u s t r y a n d s a f e g u a r d the position of fishermen fishing the middle a n d n e a r w a t e r s w i t h o u t i n c u r r i n g the r i s k s w h i c h M i n i s t e r s saw i n the establishment of a P r o d u c t i o n B o a r d on the lines proposed i n C P . (47) 328. T h e a i m should be to devise a system which would ensure to the public ample supplies of fish of good quality a t reason­ able prices and the problem should be considered p r i m a r i l y from this angle. The C a b i n e t Took note t h a t the P r i m e M i n i s t e r would a r r a n g e for a Committee of M i n i s t e r s to re-examine, in the light of the discussion, the p r o p o s a l s m a d e i n C P . (47) 328 and C P . (47) 325. C o u n c i l of Foreign Ministers. (Previous Reference: C M . (47)90th Conclusions, Minute 2.) 7. The Foreign Secretary said t h a t t h e present meeting of the Council of F o r e i g n M i n i s t e r s w a s unlikely to lead to agreement between the F o u r P o w e r s on the m a i n issues o u t s t a n d i n g in respect of G e r m a n y . Unless t h e r e w a s a r a d i c a l change in the present a t t i t u d e of the Soviet Government, h e saw n o purpose in continuing t h e discussions t h r o u g h the m e d i u m of t h e Council of Jeoreign Ministers. The C a b i n e t took note of the F o r e i g n S e c r e t a r y ' s statement. Cabinet Office, S.W. 1, 15th December, 1947.