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A meeting of the Cabinet will be held at Ko,10,
Downing Street, Si-"., on W e d n e s d a y , November 1st, 1922, at 11
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30 a.m.
AGENDA
11.30 a.m. 1, PROPOSALS TO SET UP CABINET COMMITTEES OK -
UNEMPLOYMENT I"; -
HOME AFFAIRS
2. RULES FOR THE CABIIJET SECRETARY.
3. FOREIGN AFFAIRS
(Statement by the Secretary of State). ne, to p
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.W./1
31st October, 1922
(Sgd,. )l-.LP,A.Hankey
Secretary. i
Lieut.-Col. Sir M.P.A. Eankey, G.G.B. Secretary
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A meeting of the Cabinet will "be held at No. 10,
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A G M D A
11.30 a.m. 1* PROPOSALS TO SET UP CABINET COMMITTEES ON -
UHEMPLOYMEN T; -
HOME AFFAIRS
2. RUIES FOR THE CABINET SECRETARY.
3. FOREIGN AFFAIRS
(Statement by the Secretary of State).
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.W./1
31st October, 1922
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Secret ary.
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C A B I N E T 64/22.
COUCLUSIOIIS of a meeting of the Cabinet held at Mo* 10 Downing Street, S.W., on
Wednesday, 1st flovember, 192£, at 11-30 a d o
P E E S S I f
The Prime Minister (in the chair)
The Most Hon. The Marquess of
Salisbury,K.G.,G.C.V.O., C.B.,
Lord President of the Council.
The Right Hon. S. Baldwin,
Chancellor &t the Exchequer.
His Grace The Du&e of Devon-
Shire, E..G..G.B.M.G..G.G.V.0.,
(Secretary of State for the
^Colonies.
The Right Hon. L.S. Amery, first Lord of the Admiralty.
The Right Hon. Sir i. GriffithfBoscawen, Minister of Health.
The Right Hon. Viscount Cave, G.C.M.6.
Lord Chancellor.
The Most Hon. The Marquess Curzon of
Kedleston, L(J.,fi.(J.S.I.,S.CiI.E.,
Secretary of State for foreign Affairs.
The Right Hon. Viscount peel, G.B.B.,
Secretary of State for India.
The Right Hon. Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame,
E:.B.ii.,M.C., President of the Board of Trade.
The Right Hon. Sir R.A. Sanders, Bart.,
Minister of Agriculture & fisheries.
The Right Hon. Viscount ilovar,
G.C.M.G., Secretary for Scotland.
Lieut.-Col. Sir M.P.A. Hankey, G.C.B., Secretary.
CA ^IHEtf 1. With reference'to War Cabinet 518, (8), and Cabinet
0HB ?^H .OT* ?6
(si) , Appendix IV, the Cabinet agreed pB^KT AM) HOME
&FFAIRS.
To set up Cabinet Cessnittees to deal -ssrith
I and HOMB AFFAIRS' respectively *
The composition of these OosHSBittees , as approved by the Cabinet, is attached in
Annexes I and II.
faf^RUOTlOMS g.
with reference to Cabinet 16 (S3), Conclusion S, the
fiNlORETAHr OF Cabinet approved, provisionally, and subject to possible j t e 0 ABUSES
IRD 8BDRBTAtllR8 amendment as the result of experience rip ASIM??f
$
the Instructions
I O M T T B I S S .
*k* the Secretary of the Cabinet and Secretaries of Cabinet
Oossaittees and Conferences attached in A sines H I .
'$o38XflM With reference to Cabinet ( 2 8 ) Conclusion 2, the
AFFAIRS,
- Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs gave the Cabinet a
$he turklsh
^fesce C*R-' susmary of the situation in regard, to Foreign Affairs gen vferenoe. erally and the forthcoming Conference at Lasasanne for the purpose of arranging a "Turkish settlement in particular*
Under instructions from the Cabinet, the Secretary has prepared a summary of this statement, which is attached
.-'C&AX$S 3Y 4* The Isord Chancellor gave the Cabinet a miiamary of
VOMEWS ASSO
^OIAffON S , the conclusions reached "by a Cabinet Committee, over whiefc
^Proposed Sx- he had presided, in regard to some half.dozen of the more
^tension of
I Female urgent points raised in questionnaires presented to the
I Suffrage,
Government by various Women's Associations,
The Cabinet agreed -
(a) That in regard to the bulh of the elaim* the Prime Minister would be justified, in any public statement, in adopting the line that there was no reason why, because an Election was in progress, the Government should commit itself to hasty decisions on matters requiring mature considerations
(b) That, in regard to the women's demand for ecual franchise with men, the Prime Minister should, in the first instance, adopt a sympathetic but non-committal attitude, it was recognised, however, that, in the stress of an electoral campaign, when frequent meetings of the Cabinet could not be held, the Prime Minister imist be given a wide latitude in expressing the views of the Party,
S.* The Cabinet authorised "the Prime Minister, in consult atien with the Secretary of State for the Colonies
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to appoint a Qoanditee to assist the Secretary of State in the preparation of draft legislation required for dealing with Irish affairs on the meeting of Parliament-.
N O T E .
The Prime Minister and the Secretary' of State for the Colonies have agreed to the following OeiBmitteet-
The Secretary of State for the Colonies
(in the Chair),
Tae Chancellor of the Bxehequer,
The liord President of the Council
The Secretary of State for India,
%
$he Minister of. Health,
Th& Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.
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TH1* 6, With reference to Cabinet 43 (33)* Conclusion 1,
QAT^LK! EMBARGO. the Minister of Health gsve the Cabinet a summary of an agreement which the late Government had made with repre aentatives of the Canadian Government in regard to the embargo on Canadian Cattle.
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The Cabinet agreed —
That,-unless the Minister of Agriculture, on examining the question, discovered any objection, the agreement should be ratified and published as soon as it is ratified by the Canadian Government.
S, Whitehall Gardens, S.W.1,
November 1, 1932. o o * .
A N N E X I.
CABINET COMMITTEE. ON UNEIEPLOYMENiT..
(As aprjroVeS. by the Cabinet on 1st. November, 1922,
Cabinet 64/22/1).
Minister of Health- (Chairman).
Secretary of State for Home Affairs.
Pre si cJjent ef the 3oard of Trade'.
Secretary for Scot laid.
Ilinister of Agriculture.
Minister of Labour.
First Commissioner of "forks.
Secretary of the Overseas Trade Department.
Financial Secretary of the Treasury.
Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour.
An Official *f the Ministry of Health,
Se cret ary -
The Chancellor of the Exchequer and other Ministers to regarded as available to attend as members of the Committee, the nattire of the business renders their presence desirable.
A H IT E X II -
CA3IIOT COMMITTEE OH HOIZ1 . AFFAIRS.
(As approved by the Cabinet on 1st,, November, 1922,Cabinet
The Lord Chancellor. (Chairmen).
Secretary of State for Home Affairs.
President of the Board of Trade,
Minister of Health,
Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries,
Secretary for Scotland,
Minister of Labour,
Attorney' General,
Solicitor General.
Postmaster General.
Financial Secretary-of the treasury.
Mr. R.B. Howorth
Secretary.
Annexe III
INSTRUCTIONS TO 1HE SECRETARY OP THE CABIITfff
1
(As approved, provisionally "by the Cabinet on 1st November,
1922; Cabinet" 64(22), Conclusion 2 ) , ' l o She Prime Minister will instruct the Secretary as to what subjects are to be placed on the Agenda paper, of the
Cabinet. The Secretary will give Ministers as long notice as he can as to x?hen subjects are likeljr to be discusser, and will issue to members of the Cabinet a weekly list of subjects await ing consideration.
2. The Secretary will attend meetings of the Cabinet, unless instructed to the contrary, for the purpose of recording the conclusions.
3. In the absence of instructions to the contrary the record is to be as short as possible, and, apart from the con c3asion itself, should normally be United to such explanation
as is indispensable to render the conclusion itself intelligible.
As a general rule it should suffice to refer to any documents circulated to the Cabinet before the meeting, and to any supple mentary data produced at the meeting. In particular cases a statement by a Minister may, by decision of the Cabinet, be repro duced and annexed to the Minutes after approval by the Prime
Minister and correction by the Minister concerned,
4. Cne copy of the draft Minutes will be sent to the
King as heretofore "with Humble Duty" from the Prime Minister,
As a general rule only one other
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of Cabinet Minutes will be taken, which, after approval by the Prime Minister, will be filed under the Secretary T s personal charge in the Cabinet Office,
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Annex III
INSTRUCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OE THE CABINET
(As approved provisionally "by the Cabinet on 1st November,
1922: Cabinet" 64(22), Conclusion 2 ) .
1, The Prime Minister will instruct the Secretary as to what subjects are to be placed on the Agenda paper of the
Cabinet. The Secretary will give Ministers as long notice as he can as to \?hen subjects are likeljr to be cli soussc-:, and will issue to members of the Cabinet a weekly list of subjects await ing consideration.
The Secretary will attend meetings of the Cabinet, unless instructed to the contrary, for the purpose of recording the conclusions.
3. In the. absence of instructions to the contrary the record is to be as short as possible, and, apart from the con cflasion itself, should norm illy be limited to sxiok explanation as is indispensable to ren-er the conclusion itself intelligible.
As a general rule it should suffice to refer to any dociiments oirculated to the Cabinet before the meeting, and to any supple mentary data produced at the meeting. In particular cases a statement by a Minister may, by decision of the Cabinet, be repro duced and annexed to the Minutes after approval by the Prime
Minister and correction by the Minister concerned.
4. £ne copy of the. draft Minutes will be sent to the
King as heretofore "with Humble Duty" from the Prime Minister,.
As a general rule only one other copy of Cati.net Minutes will be taken, which, after approval by the Prime Minister, will be filed under the Secretary
1
s personal charge in the Cabinet Off ice *
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5. She -donclusi ons of the Cabinet are to "be -trans mitted "by the Secretary to all Cabinet Ministers and to
Ministers who are not members of the Cabinet and who are concerned in a primary or Secondary degree.
6. , Ministers are responsible for making such c ommuni cation as they deem necessary to their respective Departments in regard to the conclusions of the Cabinet. The precautions hitherto observed for ensuring that the conclusions are opened only by Ministers are to be adhered to.
7. The Minutes of the Cabinet are always to be avail able for consultation by Cabinet-Ministers, either in the
Secretary's Office or, during meetings of the Cabinet, in the Cabinet room,
8. The Secretary is to take all possible precautions for ensuring that in the reproduction of Cabinet Minutes the minimum staff is employed, and that acdess to Cabinet
Minutes is limited to Cabinet Ministers.
9. Subject to anv instructions he may receive from the Prime Minister or the Minister from whom a document orig inates in regard to any particular paper, the Secretary will circulate to Ifembers of the Cabinet all Memoranda and other documents prepared for the use of the Cabinet. Subject to reference in case of doubt,to the Prime Minister or the .
Minister from whom a document is recei-ttpd, the Secretary will have discretion to circulate Cabinet papers to Ministers outside the Cabinet whose Departments are affected,. He is also authorised to send additional copies to Ministers at their request.
10. Government Departments will reproduce their own
/... .Memoranda
Memoranda and forward the required number of copies to the
Cabinet Office for circulation.
11 o The procedure as regards Cabinet Committees and
Conferences is attached.
INSTRUCTIONS AS REGARDS CABINET' COMMITTEES
AND G 0NFER5N0ES. .
(Approved by the Cabinet on 1st November, 1922::
Cabinet 64(22), Conclusion 2 ) .
The Secretary to the Cabinet and Secretaries of Cabinet ommittees are to conform to the following instructions
(a) The Secretary will take the Chairman 1 s instructions as to the form of record. The procedure should, approximate to that of the Cabinet, but, In order that the Members of vhe Cabinet who are not also
Members of particular Committees, may be informed, a somewhat fuller record of the proceedings is permissible in the case of Committees, than in that of the Cabinet. Reference to the views of partieu lar Members should be avoided:
(b) The conclusions of the Committee on Home Affairs will be circulated to all Members of the Cabinet, and will not be regarded as final until approved by the Cabinet:
(c) The conclusions of the Unemployment Committee and other Cabinet Committees will be circulated to the Cabinet, Conclusions in regard to matters
' of high policy will be reserved for approval by the Cabinet. The Chairman will be the judge of what questions should be so reserved:;
(d) In cases where the Secret -\ries of Cabinet Committees are not members of the Cabinet Office, they will place themselves in communication with the Secretaiy of the Cabinet with a view to the necessary arrahg-e ments as regards circul tion and distribution of the
Committee 's documents,, Where the Secretary of a
Cabinet Committee is a member of a Government Depart ment, the proceedings will as a rule be reproduced in 1 hat Department.
5 iAJ^P,
Svosmary of St attest made to the Cabinet by the
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs cm
Wednesday, November 1, 1933.
OTt8 SSetmfABT 0?
safE FOR FORKXGtf AFFAIRS stated that all he could do in the tifse at M s disposal was to aussnaSftse the Bare important aspects of the situation.
So far as Papers were concerned$ he had already clrou lated to the Cabinet m account of his most Inge in Paris which resulted in the Wfcidania Conference*. Re had"also given instmotions that an account was to be circulated of his siore^important meeting at the end of September, at which V decision had been reached that a Conference should take place and as to the Bowers to ia&e part therein. If his eolleagues would read these, it would give them a better idea of the tsiaperait-ant and psychology of the principal - 4nd&^3rdrr&l s concerned than anything he cotild say on the present occasion,
?he Cabinet would vemmtom?
that on those two o coaalons he himself had gone to Paris at a critical point in order to try and reach a peaceful settlement of a situation which was? on the verge of war, The solutions reached had given general satisfaction * It was true that concessions had been made to the Iharke, but this had been inevitable in the circumstances, and they had been essential in order to preserve the solidarity of the Allies,
Buring the past the whole basis of M a resign policy* in whteh ha had had the backing of Wm late Cabinet fe had been that tsnly fey standing with Staonfte and Italy w&S it possible to reach a settlement of tbe Eastern situation.
He did not ssean by this that other Powers had 'm% h&m consulted in regard to then? interests, but that the main essential for semiring peace was for the three Bowers to stand together. At no stage had he departed from -this principle. Moreover, his policy throughout had been opan and above-board * He regretted it was not possible to say the same for the Allies * The difficulties had arisen not fmm any lack of frankness/en our part, but from the eon** sistent refusal of the Allies to co-operate whele-hsartedly.
In this connection he referred to the lack of candour dii** played by the French Government i*t'regard to the activities of Mm franhlin-Beulllon. Italy, he regretted to say, had. proved equally unreliable? in fact, he felt rather relieved that '-he won id not again have to deal with the Italian
Governments which had lately been in office and that he was faced with a new combination which he was disposed to think, contrary to. the views held in seise parts o f the press, might result in honest government in Italy *
The two Conferences to which he had already alluded had resulted, first, in the preliminary arrangements for a
Peace Conference, and, secondly, in the Nfedania Agreement.
The object of the Beaca Conference was to revise the
Treaty of Sevres. St had been arranged to meet at kaueanne on November 13th, but he felt "na. doubt that this date would have to be postponed. The Klection^in tbis country would not be complete, and it was doubtful if the Italian Govern ment vronld be prepared to send plenipotentiaries so soon.
Moreover, it was almost certain that the Turks would raise preliminary difficulties that could net be settled before
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Havener 15th . Finally, a reply had net yet been receives to the imitation sent to the Soviet $ovarmant to attend that part- of the Canfaysnea relating to the £readers of the
Straits. Bf^hably, therefore, the Conference would not be held until early in December. t*ausenne had the advantage of being in a country which was neutral in the War.
It was central, a*s* bainn on the line of the Orient Fxpres8^jp !t possessed good aeconsiaodation, and the Peace between Turkey and Italy sowe years ago had been arranged there. That point, therefore, might be taken as settled.
It was proposed to divide the Conference into two stages.
At the first stage of the Conference a Treaty of Peace would ha drawn up, The m reaty of Sevres had been drawn up at
London and San Remo by the Great Powers, including Japan *
The. Treaty had than bean handed to the ^irks, who had been invited to adopt it, Finally., it had been signed not only * by the Powers that had negotiated it, hut by a number of
Allies, many ef whoss had only been nominally belligerents with Turkey, including s-aeh States as Poland and Portugal,
Out of these Allies it had now been decided that Rouaania and Ju£0-3iss,viu Should be invited to join the first stage of the Conference for drawing up the Treaty of Peace,
Bulgaria had also been asked to send representatives to
Lausanne, not as members of the Conference, but to state the case of Bulgaria in regard to access to the Aegean through Dadaa^ateh.
During that first stage of the Conference the Treaty of
Sevres would be gone through point by point, revising it as necessary, It would be a prolonged, difficult and very anxious business.
At the next stage world come the question of the Straits,
The reason for taking this at a separate stage was that it concerned also other Powers which had not been belligerents.
For M s reason it had fceen decided to invite to ttiie part of the Conference representatives of Soviet Btiesia, with her affiliated States, thetfferaine and Georgia, the fesaw of which contained the important port of Odessa and the latter Batum. These states had bean invited enly to the second part of the Conference, and not to the first part to draw up the Treaty of Peace, He anticipated that a
Convention would probably he drawn tip for dealing with the Straits as supplementary to the main Treaty.of Peace*
He could not exaggerate his estimate of the difficulties which he would have to face at J&ttsanne * He would be faced with a victorious Turkey, utterly unscrupulous, which would raise questions of the most troublesome description * Pof example, under the -Treaty of Sevres Was tern Thrace had. bean attributed to Greece, and it was inconceivable that it should be returned * He could not doubt, however, that the
Turks would demand Western ^hraee^ and posfihly they might be backed up in this by the French and the Italians, He gathered trom the frets that the Turks were likely to insist on the return of $oaul, which was part of the Mesopotamia^
Mandate and was confirmed, to Iraq by a treaty with King
Feisal. Again, on the question of Capidilations he raust expect a hitter struggle. The Turbs were standing out for equality, whereas no European could live and do busi^SS in
Ccnstanttnople without the Capitulations, or at least sosa& tribunal. He thought that the first inclination of the French Government to support the abolition of the
S apt tula tions would be Modified, owing to the insistence of the Freneb -Inhabitants of Constantinople. Nevertheless, tbere would be strong opposition fross the Turks, Another difficult:? was that the Constantinople Government still existed, though It was worthless and invertebrate, This was
the de ^tiye tlovernment, but the position-had gradually grown up that the Angara Government had become the d£ facto
Government, Xt only awaited its entry into Constantinople to obtain the keys of power. Consequently, difficulties tmtst be anticipated here. What would be the attitude of the different Powers? France hitherto had been in the pocket of the lurks* but the French Ambassador had seen
MM on the previous day and bad told him that the Kessalista were becoming more and sore Antal^gfible. Xt was in fact intolerable that the Angora government should dictate the ter.es of peace * *ghe French support of the Turks bad hmn based on the faSt that France was $eateus of our position and prestige in the Moslem world, Ke-r attitude marked the design of francs to become the? protestor of the W&BXWM in the East, There were, no doubt, other considerations, Re thought, however, that Prance was gradually veering in our direction. As regards the attitude of Italy, in. view of the change of Government he could make no forecast, Japan was; usually quietly and unostentatiously with .0raat Britain,
Houmania was actuated largely by the fear of losing Bessara bia, Jugoslavia was influenced by the fast that shs depended on Prance for her armaments, but otherwise was in sympathy with xie. Prom the Soviet Government he anticipate nothing but hostility, !Sh* late Prime Minister had worked indefst-ig&bly and sincerely to reach an agreement with
Soviet Ttossiai first by. means of a Trade Agrdemstrit, then through, the Genoa Conference, and lastly through the Hague
Conference, Nevertheless, be believed the Soviet Government still to be in a position of 1 special and inveterate hostility towards the. British Empire, fheir representatives - wopld oppose us strongly at tausanrie. The goal of Russia had always been Constantinople, Shis ambition had not been changed by the alteration in the system of government.
and the Bolsheviks were OomwanlBta with wide Imperial aspirin tions* Any other solution of the problem of the Straits thai a Russian solution would be inconsistent tilth Soviet dreads * Consequently, at Lausanne the Soviet rapresenta-** tives would oppose u s , What they desired was a Blaefe See which was closed wt^ttaesia was weah, m that no ether fleet could penetrate to the Black Sea, and open when she
\fm strong and could send her own Fleet out. fhae thin part of the problem bristled with difficulties,,,
'%at (Ireat Sri tain desired was an honourable peace with
IHAR &ay and an end of tbe long quarrel which had existed *
In spits of the immense difficulties, he die! not think that in the last resort this result was impossible. Ho wanted to convince the "ferhs that we were willing to be their friends, fhe Turks bad lost the War, and -ptsr%e of their
Bmpire had bean shorn off, hut they were bach in Asia and
Surops, and we would like to be friends with thm again *
He would lihs to bring about & break between Turkey and her Soviet Allies * f ^c^ &t
*Jau^^
He thought that ^rHNyyegs would sign the fyeaty in that Soviet Passla would probably be ee&ed to sign when she was so recognised. But this was a matter which would requires consideration with the Allies,
As regards the representation of the Dominions and India at the Conference, he thought theOowerraaent should largely bo guided by the course adopted in negotiating the Treaty Of
Sevres, Although the Bos&nlena and India had not t&hen part In the Conference, the Treaty had been signed by their
Representatives, Whet he desired was that the Dominions and India would allow hits to represent them, and he could assure them that he wets Id keep their interests constantly to the fore. Their presence in the Council Chamber was
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I-J JS. extremely difficult to arrange, and when he had proposed
It to M , Feinsaa?^ the latter had insisted that in that event Tunis, Algeria and Morocco would also have to he represented * He was in communication with the Colonial
Office on this suh$eet.* The question of attaching as
Indian, representative to the British Delegation., if pressed by the Secretary of State for 3 M i & * would require careful i consideration, as the Dominions would ask for correspond!^ tfe&tment .
Turning now to the general ISnropeen situation, and referring first to Prance
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Lord Curson said that Just as he desired to obtain an agreement with Turkey, so he wanted to clear up the whole - situation with Trance, It was diffi cult to say who was. to blame for the present situation.
It was ,4sllaem^ undoubtedly^by the attitude and personal-^ ity of the Prench President of the Ceunell,
The late Prime Minister of $reai Britain had dominated the scene at the various Conferences/net only owing to his great expertenee, but also w i n g to his eleverneee, His
A very success in negotiation had rankled more and more with the French. At every Conference his personality had proved a great strength, but in the internet!onaj. sphere his success had thus resulted in a weakness *
Among other quest!one of foreign policy were those relating to Germany,, and more particularly Reparations, as well as the question of Inter-Allied Debts. These matters were too big to enter into at the moment. He felt^ however, that we arast come to some arrangement with Prance in regard to all these questions, The French Government had also made great difficulties In regard to Tangier, as well as Tunis and some minor matters. These difficulties were net due merely to the explosive temper of M. Point?ar^
but to the inherent perfidy and insincerity of French policy,
Thus the French had protested against our entering into any arrangement with Soviet Russia, yet any day' he ewpwctad t o ^ * ^ hear that they had concluded such, an arrangement themselves.
They had protested against the jure recognition of Moscow, and yet they might J ^ S ^ A s ^ it themselves. M. Boincare" was a elever, hard, rigid, metallic lawyer.
am far his po-ssl tiOn was firm he did not know, what he would like to do, however, was to clear the board of our foreign difficulties with Prance in regard to Europe * He would, however, begin in the East, an;!, if agreement could be reached there he might indicate that this was a prelude to clearing the whole; board, and progress might be- made.
There would arise also the situation in regard to Germany,
$his. country was prostrate, and its position was indescrib-
A able. This was- largely Germany's own fault, and resulted
/partly from the fall of the Mark, for which the Ommm Oov emssent was largely responsible. In Prance this country wa& regarded as too friendly towards Germany. The Germans had taken advantage of this and had behaved badly, particn larly in regard, to disarmamenta Whether some new orientation of policy towards Germany was necessary he did, not yet hnew.''
As regards the United States of America, lord Balfour had done a wonderful work at Washington. This, however, had been &agjgapi*&ted. to some extent by the so-called **Balfou'r
Sfote" * fie himself^had not been in the Foreign Office at the time, but he felt it was sS^remely unwise. Nothing could exceed the finish and style of the Hote, btxt its effect$had been deplorable.
The late Chancellor of the Exchequer had intended to go to America to clear up the question of the funding of. the debt, and he understood that the present Chancellor of the
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Exchequer, or 9ome other powers 1 representative, waa shortly to go to America, Meanwhile, the American Ambassador in London said that the qttestion could easily be settled.
As we had agreed to pay the debt, America would-be prepared, according to Mr Harvey, to reaVo.ee the obligation to a minimum, and thia would be accepted by Congress, He did not know precisely what this meant. If the Chancellor of the f%se'hequar would care to see the American Ambassador^, either with him or without him, he would be very glad' to arrange it.
Reverting to the Hear East Conference, Lord Our son said that the late Cabinet had decided that he himself was to represent the British Government there. Pach- country was to have two plenipotentiaries t
who, of course, would bave power to take decisions and sign Conventions reached * His idea was to take as his colleague Sir Horace Pumbold, the
High Commissioner in Constantinople, \
He understood that Prance intended, to appoint two ^inis^ tors. At one time he had apprehended that M, Franklin-
Bouillon would be appointed, and, in view of his mischievous activities at the Mudania Conference, he had sent word by the British Ambassador in Paris asking M,. Poincare not to appoint him. The French President of the Council had agreed that he would not do so. To his great surprise, four days later he had seen in the Press a letter from SS,
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Pranklin**
Bouillon declining an invi$atlen
A to represent France, on the ground that this would not be appreciated in Croat Britain!
He himself proposed to go to Lausanne to start the Con ferenee. He doubted, however, if the Cabinet would Wish him to remain there the whole time, and his idea was to leave the second plenipotentiary in charge, and perhaps the
Permanent Under-Seen etary would be sent there during the
Committee staple f the Conference. He himself would have to be present at every important' stage.
Xn regard to the rsmcrar that the Sultan of Turkey was to be aebed to abdicate M s temporal power, retaining the position of Caliph, he felt some doubt. If the rumour
SwiCfi-^ proved true it would be highly satisfactory, it would deprive the ssal contents In India of their whole case against us in regard to Turkey.
As regards the Freedom of the Straits, he intended to
Circulate a Paper to the Cabinet.
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November 1, 19S3,
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. h o n o u r t o e n c l o s e a c o p y of t h e c o n c l u s i o n s r e a c h e d , b y t h e C a b i n e t a t t h e i r m e e t i n g on 1 s t . Fov e m b e r y
1922 , a t 11.-30 a . m .
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UEEl-iPIOyLIEN T fa H0I.CB AFFAIRS is STRUCK 01TS FOR
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OF THE CABINET
AND SECRETARIES
OP CABINET COM-
LIITTEES.
ILIIMS BY lJ0MSE r S 1S30C-
11'IIOES. proposed erten sion of Female
Suffrage.
0 A B I 11 ET 64(22')
COECLuSIOES of a Meeting of the Cabinet held at 10,Doivnlnp' Street, S,W, on Wednesday,
1st November,1922 at 11,30 a.m
c
See Aime7.es I and 11*
See Annex III,
IRELAND
Cabinet
CorTnittee
(a) That in regard to the bulk of the claims the Prime Minister would be Justified, in any public statement, in at opting the line that there was no reason why, because an Election was in progress, the
Government should commit itself to hasty decisions on matters requiring mature oon side ration: fb) That, in regard to the ronen's demand for equal franchise with men, the Prime
Minister should, in the first instance, adopt a sympathetic but no?J-coramittal attitude. It was recognised, however, that, in the stress of art electoral cam paign, when frequent neetings of the
Cabinet could not be held, the Prlre
Llinister must be given a wide latitude in expressing the views of the Party.
The Cabinet authorised the Prime Minister, in consultation with the Secretary of State for the Colonies, to appoint a Committee to assist the Secretary of State in the preraration of draft legislation recuirefi for dealing with
Irish affairs on the meeting of Parliament,.
Not e
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The Prime llinister and the Secretary
. of State for the Colcnies have agreed to the following- Comr.ittee :
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The. Secretary of State for the
Polonies (in the Chair), l l he Chancellor of the Exchequer,
The Lord President of the Council,
2he Secretary of State for India,
The Minister of Health.,
The lord lieutenant of Ireland,,
S E ClMDI/iE
S
That, unless the Minister of Agriculture,
TTIS EivtBiHGfO.
on examining the question, discovered any objection, the agreement should be ratified and published as soon as it is ratified bv the Canadian Government,
S,Whitehall Gardens, /l
1st November,1922
A g H E 1 I.
CABIIEtf COIMITTEE OH UEEIIPIiOYM
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T.
(As approved by the Cabinet on 1st.. Hovembbr, 1922,
Cabinet 64/22/1). liinister of Health- (Chairman).
Secretary of State for Home Affairs.
Presidsnt *f the Board of Trade.
Secretary for Scotland, liinister of Agriculture.
Minister of Labour.
:?irst Commissioner of "Torlrs.
Secretary -of the Overseas Trade Department. financial Secretary of the Treasury..
Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour.
An Official *f the Ministry of Health,
Secretary.
The Chancellor of the .Ibrchequer and other Liinisters to
"be regarded as available to attend as members of the Committee, if the nature of the business renders their presence desirable.
A H U E S II,
CA3IJCT , COMMITTIS Oil HOIH A?PAI33;.
[Is ""approved "by the Cabinet on 1st. IJovenber, 1922,Cabioiette
&-4/22/l)
The Lord Chancellor. , (Chairman).
Secretary of State for Home Affairs.
President of -the 3oard of Trade.
Minister of Health.
Minister of Agriculture and f i s h e r i e s ^
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Secretary for Scotland.
Minister of Labour.
Att orney
:
- General,
Solicitor Genera^..
Postmaster General.
Financial Secretary of the.Treasury.
Mr. H.3. Howorth.
Secret-xy.
Annex III
INSTRUCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OP THE CABINET 1
(As approved provisionally "by the Cabinet on 1st November,
1922: Cabinet" 64(22), Conclusion 2 ) ,
1, 2he Prime Minister will instruct the Secretary as to what subjects are to be placed on the Agenda paper of the
Cabinet, The Secretary will give Ministers as long notice as he can as to when subjects are likely to be discusser., and will issue to members of the Cabinet a weekly list of subjects await ing consideration.
2, The Secretary will attend meetings cf the Cabinet, unle-ss instructed to the contrary, for the purpose of recording the conclusions,
3, In the absence of instructions to the contrary the record is to be as short as possible, and, apart from the uon cflasion itself, should normally be United to such explanation as is indispensable to render the conclusion itself intelligible^
As a general rule it should suffice to refer to any documents circulated to the Cabinet before the meeting, and to any oupple nentary data produced at the meeting. In particular cases a statement by a Minister nuy, by decision of the Cabinet, be rspro duo ed and annexed to the Minutes after approval by the Prime
Minister and correction by the Minister concerned,,
4. Cne copy of the draft Minutes will be sent to the
Sing as heretofore "with Humble Duty" from the Prime Minister.
As a general rule only one other oovj of Cabinet Minutes will be taken, which, after approval by the Prime Minister, will be filed under the Secretary !
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5. She conclusi ons of the Cabinet are to be trans
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6. Ministers are responsible for. making such o ommuni cation as they deem necessary to their respective Departments in regard to the conclusions of the Cabinet, The precautions hitherto observed for ensuring that the conclusions are opened only by Ministers are to be adhered to.
7. The Minutes of the Cabinet are always to be avail able for consultation by Cabinet Ministers,, either in the
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8. The Secretary is to take all possible precautions for ensuring that in the reproduction of Cabinet Minutes the minimum staff is employed, and that access to Cabinet
Minutes is limited to Cabinet Ministers.
9. Subject to
tinv
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10. Government Departments will repr oduce .their own
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11. She procedure as regards Cabinet Committees and
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INSTRUCTIONS AS REGARDS CABINET, COMMITTEES
AMD CONFERENCES,
(Approved by the Cabinet on 1st November,1922:
The Secretary to the Cabinet and Secretaries of Cabinet
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SECRET.
C A B I N E T 65/22.
0OI10LUSIOWS of a meeting of the Cabinet held at Ho. 10 Downing Street, S.W., on
-Tuesday 7th November, 1922, at 4-15 p.ia
P R E S E N T : -
The Prime Minister
The Most Hon. The Marquess of
Salisbury, K.G..G.C.V.0.,C.B.,
Lord President of the Council.
(In the chair)
The Right Hon. Viscount Care,
G.C.M.G., Lord Chancellor.
The Most Hon. The Marquess Curzon of Kedleston, K.G.',G.C.S.I.,
G:.C.IcE.
f
Secretary/ of State for
Po re ign Affairs.
The Right Hen. Sir Philip Lloyd-
Grearae, K.3.E.,M.C., President of the Board of Trade.
His Grace the Duke of Devonshire,.
H.C..G.C.M.G.,G.C.V.O., Secretary of State for the Colonies.
The Right Hon. Sir Montague Barlow,
E.B.E., Minister of Labour.
The following were also present;-
Sir Eyre Crowe, G.C .M.G. ,11. C. 3. ,
Permanent Under-Secretary of
State for Eo^pign Affairs.
Sir Samuel Hoare, Bart., C.M.G.,
Secretary of State for Air..
Tice Admiral Sir Roger J.3. Eeyes,
Bart.. H . C B . ,K.C .V.0. ,C.M.G. ,DS0. ,
Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff.
General the Earl of Cavan, H.P.,
G..C.M.G.,G.C.V.0.,Z.C.3.,A.D.C. ,
Chief of the Imperial General Staff
Air Marshal Sir H.M. Tr eh chard,
Bart., Z.C.B., D.S.O., A . D . C ,
Chief of the Air Staff.
Lieut.-Col. Sir M.P.A. Hanlces?-, G.C.B.,.... . Secretary
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CABINET 6 5 (?.£) .
CONCLUSI&NS of a Meeting of the Cabinet,, held at
10, Downing Street, S 3 U , on TUESDAY, NOVEMBER ?,
1923, at 4-2 0 p ,m,
THE SITUATION After hearine from the Secretary of State for
AT CONSTANT I-.
NOPLE,- Foreign Affairs a summary of the difficult situation which
(Previous Ref^r- had arisen at Constantinople, based on recent telegrams ence Cabinet
64 (22)., more particularly telegram No. 668 from the High 0ornmis-
Minute 3.) sloner at Constantinople (Appendix I) and telegram
No. £932-from General Harington (Appendix II), as well as a personal-ieb-gran from General Farington to the Chief of the Imperial General Staff (No. 29 33), and after putting questions to the Chipf of the Imperial General Staff and the Deputy Chief of the Naval Staf*% whose information and advice are summarised in Appendix lilt the Cabinet reached the foilowing Conelusione:
(a) That the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs should send the attached message to the British Ambassadors in Paris and
Rome for immediate communication to the
French and. Italian Presidents of the
Council (Appendix TV), .
NOTE. In order to avoid any unnecessary delay
4
Sir Eyre Crowe, the Permanent
Under-Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs, arranged for a telephone message to be sent to the British
Ambassador in Paris during the meeting, instructing Lord Hardinge to warn II, Poincare' to expect an important message the. same evening.
:
(b) That the Chief of the Imperial General
Staff should telegraph to General Harington to the effect that the Government were in communication with the French and Italian
Governments as to the extent to which they could rely on support to the policy proposed by the Allied High Commissioners and Generals at Constantinople, and that instructions
should he S'--nt as soon as a r-ply was received.
(c) That the Cabinet should hold tlw-selves . in readiness to meet on the morrow after an answer was received from Paris.
(d) That in his speech the same evening' the
Prims Minister should state that the situation in Turkey is difficult but was satisfactory to the extent that the Allied
High Cornelssloners and Generals at Con stantinople were unanimous,
MOTE, In order to show the result of the above Conclusions^ the tv.ro followinst telegrams are attached lord Ho rdihge' s reply, received by telephone the samo evening,
November ?th (No, 570) (Appendix V)
Foreign ,Office Telegram to Sir H-,
Ruvboid (Constantinople), des patcited the same evening
( Kovembev 7th) (Append jy VI) .
2, Whitehall Gardens, S .
.1
November 7, 1022;
APPENDIX I.
Telegram No. 668 from Sir H, Rumbold, Con stantinople, dated November 6th 1932. mm URGENT.
My telegram 66 5 and my telegram 666.
After having examined situation this evening with
Generals, allied High Commissioners decided to address following identic telegram to their Governments
"Initial measures taken by new administration of Con atantinople constitute not only serious blow to interests and prestige of Allies, but also threaten to stop economic life of town. , As result of application of new customs tariff, price of bread and of articles of primary necessity has already doubled. Certain articles indispensable to foreigners Are prohibited. Justice between Europeans and
Ottomans is suspended. Assumption of control by Turkish authorities over Ottoman police, gendarmes and troops here is a grave danger to safety of allied troops and foreign colony.
Strong represent^tions will be made tomorrow to Natioaal ist agent here in nare of Allied Powers . But contingency that these remonstrances will have as little effect as previous ones must be considered. I fear that a series of those measures which are alze ady in force in Anatolia will follow: expulsion or deportation of Ottoman Christians, sequestration of their property, perquisitions in banks, prohibition "or foreigners to come here or leave without authorisation, arrests, arbitrary executions, etc.. etc.
Allied Governments cannot allow a situation of this nature to develop in a zone occupied by their troops and hitherto administered by their -epresentatlves without betraying confidence of population and without suffering an irremediable loss of prestige. Moreover, normal opera tions 0^* different services and allied controls can no longer be re-established except under surveillance and immediate protection of allied forces of occupation.
Armed conflict with police, gendarmerie and 2,000 Turkish garrison troops here may ensue, ^he necessity for disarming latter must be contemplated.'
. In agreement with allied Generals, High Commissioners ar" unanimously of opinion that establishment of a state of siege here is necessary if above" measures are to be put into execution. Nevertheless operation is a delicate on^ and may provokn conflict. Available allied forces here consist onlv of about eight battalions two squadrons an artillery group" tanks armoured cars and flying machines. Assistance of fle-^t can also' be counted upon.
High Co-miss icnere were unwilling to accept resoonsibilifc v for such a decision without reference to allied Governments."
They would be grateful for an immediate reply since every day lost aggravates situation and renders a peaceful scflhi tior less probable.
jv* their, aug^eation be not approved. High Commission era consider t'n?y ar? no longer in a position to carry on task assigned to tbmm and request fr^ah ins tractions' 1
Paraphrase of telegram No. 2933 from General
Haring^on to War Office, dated November 7,
1922.
Continuation/my 2925. Three Parts.
1st.
Allied Generals met High Commissioners tonight and reported .their action with Rafet. On their side High
Commissioners reported that Angora Government had taken upon themselves a series of preposterous acts including dismissal of Ottoman Debt officials, an enormous increase of customs dues, abolition of mixed Court and several other measures which High Commissioner has no doubt'reported, for it is quite evident their action is aimed at Allied prestige ar-d is quite indefensible. An identic telegram is, I understand, b ing s*mt by High Commissioners recom mending that situation be handed over to Allied Generals,
It "is quite evident that nothing'but very determined action will succeed. -If Government agree to see the matter through, right action to take$ in my opinion, is to issue a proclamation giving our position as the real occupiers under Mudros Armistice, and making it quit^ clear that
Rafet has broken the terms of that armistice and Moudania
Convention and that these various acts are in violation of our occupation.
Part, "Various acts should be enumerated in proclamation and then publicly cancelled by us . Martial law, curfew, etc., should at the same time b- rigidly enforced, A state
' of siege must he proclaimed and Turkish troops, gendarmerie and police must b^ disarmed. It has been my one desire to avoid conflict in Constantinople but I s e no other- alter native to this insult except extreme humiliation, I must however have complete liberty of action to carry this through, as I only have 3 Guards battalions in Constant! nople and this may mean a v - ry serious business,, French have undertaken to look after Stamboul but I have very large and difficult area. It would mean withdrawal cf Ismid and
Chanak and. their occupation by Kemalists who within a few days could have "some 36 to 40 battalions opposite each front and no doubt before very long a good number would get across the Bo a phoru 3.
Last, Part,,
I cannot think they would b foolish enough to go to war in face of united front Allies are now showing and especially as they have no money, hut in their present rood they are undoubtedly capable of doing anything and yet profess they want to go to Peace Conference to obtain peace. If we have to take drastic action we should also stop installing
Turkish administration into ^astern Thrace and Greeks would doubtlessly,be only too willing to -return. Americans also are seriously concerned over the situation. Importance of. de-'-andine our withdrawal and that of fleet from Turkish ports is so prepostero.ua that it will certainly revoke any sympathy that may be felt for Nationalists, Personally I think they will not dare to face it if Allies unite to show they real!;/ mean business. I should be glad of immediate instructions as you will realise this m-ans a complete reversal of military policy you have given me and from which
I cannot depart until further orders are giv-n re'. ^ -/eanwliip all necessary plans will be made by Admirals and Generals.
APPENDIX H I . cSunanary of information and &dvic.o given by the Chief of the Imperial Goneral Staff and the Deputy Chi-"f of Naval Sta^f to the
Cabinet on November 7, 19-22 (Cabinet 65 (32) ) .
The Chi-^f of the Imperial General . Staff, in reply to questions, stated that the previous orders to General
Hairing ton had been to the effect that hs
should regard the relative, importance of the various areas in military ecoupation of. the 'Allies in th--- following order:
1. Gallipoli Peninsula:
2. Chanak:
3. Constantinople:
4, Isirid Peninsula,
Acting under those instructions, had a withdrawal become necessary, it would have been in inverse order to that given above, n:.v ely, from
1. Is mid. Peninsula:
2, Constantinople!'
3. Chanak:
'4. Gallipoli Peninsula,
Since, under the terras of the Mudania Agree- ent, no sxton sion or ^urther fortification of the position at Chanak was permitted, the above orders had been modified and General
Harington had been instructed that he should treat Chan ah as an outpost and should withdraw to the Gallipoli Peninsula, if pressed, He hims-lf did not agree with. General Earington that there had. been any Change in the military'situation
Sufficient to justify & reversal of this order. The General
Staff had been considering the situation and agreed that the -
Turks were bluffing* His advice was that General Harington should maintain th-- status, puo as long as possible, but that he should, in conjunction with the Allied Generals
9
arrange for a secure base on the European shore of the Dosphorus from.which the Allied forces could withdraw in case of necessity
B
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Referring
!
0 to a passage in the personal telegram he had received from
General Harington (No.2953), lord Cavan expressed the view that it did not mean that General Harington would be physically unable to extricate his forces at Constantinople,
He could always fight his way to the shore, where his forces could be embarked by the Navy. Replying to further questions,
Lord Cavan said that the French forces at or near Constantinople amounted approximately to nine Battalions, about 5,000 men.
He promised to furnish exact figures,. There was also a very small force of Italians. Tifithout calling up battalions from Chanak, General Harington would have about 4,000 men at his disposal at Constantinople if he withdrew from the
Ismid Peninsula. Referring to a suggestion that the Turkish army could be prevented from crossing into Europe, Lord
Cavan said it was necessary to bear in mind that the Turks had about 8,000 armed men already on the European side of the Straits, who had filtered across, including 2,000 men in
Constantinople Itself, since increased presumably by the
Sultan^ personal guard of 5,000 now released from that
. special duty. The British troops at Constantinople were of excellent quality, but, in order to hold the Bosphorus, they would have to face both ways. They could be supported by reinforcements from the Gallipoli Pensinula and Chanak to the extent that transports vere available, but the number of ti-ansports was now reducec-. Should the situation become such as to.require larger reinforcements, the French, he had reason to believe, had two Divisions in ,the neighbourhood of Marseilles, which should be able to reach Constantinople within about eight days from the date of sailing. Substan tial British reinforcements could not be despatched without mobilisation, and the first Division would reach- the
Constantinople area 31 days from the c!ate of mobilisation.
The Deputy Chief the Naval Staff, in reply to qp.es tions, said that the First Sea Lord held the view, which he himself strongly .shared, that the Navy could prevent the Turkish army from crossing into ^uropn ev-n across the Posphorus. The original plan had been to seize all the available transport in the Straits. Admiral Tyrwhitt was to have b ^ e n i n charge of this operation, and had been coiafid -nt that, from a purely naval point of view, he could carry it out, Political objections had been mad- to this plan owing to th"* economic d e p e n d ^ n o o f Constantinople on its communications with Asia, but, as a purely naval operation, it was feasib1e.
The- Chie -P of the Imperial Gen-ral-Staff advised that the. approaches by which the Turkish army could advance on lev-id could b e made v-ry difficult by the H a w ,
Admiral Koves supported this.
APPENDIX IV
Telegram (by telephone) to Lord Hardinge,- (Paris),
Foreign Office, November 7th, 1922, 6.0 p,m,
No
0
414
Urgent
Successive demands made by Angora Government or by
Kemalist representative at Constantinople for evacuation of allied military and naval forces, Turkish control of police and gendarmerie in capital, closing of Mixed Court, and assumption of complete fiscal and financial independence, have produced a state of affairs in which allies have to decide whether to resist these pretensions, whioh are in direct violation both Of Mudros armistice and of Mud-amiia convention, or to abdicate their position. The former alternative may lead to crisis in Constantinople vhich, if firmly dealt with, would probably subside. The latter would involve final destruction of allied prestige and early withdrawal.of allied foroes under conditions of no small humiliation.
The High Commissioners and the Allied generals appear to be acting in closest co-operation, and have addressed identical appeal for support to their respective Governments.
It seems to His Ma.jesty
T s Government that this -should now be given. We have been willing to make every possible concession to the Angora demands, including the return of their civil administration and gendarmerie to Chanak,
Gallipoli, and Ismid areas, subject to allied supervision and control In those areas. We were about to enter Lausanne
Conference with warmest desire for a fair and reasonable satisfaction of Turkish claims. It is also possible that
their larger demands may contain a considerable element of bluff and may mask a design to drive wedge between allies or to test the measure of allied unit]/.
In any event it seems to us-that the case has now arisen to demonstrate that unity, and, in M.Poincartf
T s own words, quotes in your telegram No.564, that it is absolutely essential for His Majesty's Government and the' French Govern ment to preserve a united front on all questions that may arise out of the insupportable demands and attitude of the
Turks.
The immediate crisis is at Constantinople, where withdrawal of allied troops mould produce grave panic and might lead to a repetition of deplorable scenes at Smyrna.
The High Commissioners ire unanimouslv of opinion that establishment of a state of siege in city is necessary, and have reported to their Governments that, if this suggestion be not approved, they arc no longer in a position to carry on task assigned to them,
I shall be glad if you will see M.Poinoard at once, and ask if we may expect support of French Government for action of allied representatives at Constantinople,
If once it is realised that allies are absolutely united, and that there is no Question of division between them or of isolated action by any one of their number, and further that present Turkish attitude may render peace conference impossible, situation may still be saved. The case is one of extreme urgency, y'o have received a telegram from General Harrington in which he requests immediate sanction for measures to be taken in accordance with advice of allied generals and High Commissioners.
IVe eannot give this authority until we know to what
extent we may rely upon, the G O - opera. ion of Pre noli
Government.
Repeated to Homo No.257 in "R", substituting in last line "Italian Government" for "French Government",
Code telegram to Sir R.Graham (Rome).
Foreign Office, 7th November,1922, 9.0 p.m.
No.356 (R).
Urgen t
Paris telegram No.414 repeated to you to-day,
Please make similar communication mutatis mutandis to
Signor Mussolini and ask. whether His Majesty's Government can count on support of Italian Government'.
- A P P E N D I X Y.
Telegram (137/ telephone) from Paris.
Received 8*40 p.m* November 7th. 192E.
Bo. 570.
Your Lordship l s telephone message of this evening.
I have seen M. Poincare who told me that he had this morning approved General P e l l e t action for 00 operation with his colleagues at Constantinople and had authorised the proclamation of a state of siege If he and his colleagues oonsider such a step necessary.
As regards the last sentenoe in the message which
I have received, M. Poincare reserves his view on the ground that it is premature to consider measures to be taken if the state of siege should prove insufficient to establish and maintain order,
M. Poincara wished me to tell Your Lordship that he considers any delay in the meeting of the conference most dangerous and he is so apprehensive of the result that may ensue that he refuses to assume in any way the " responsibility. He told me that he has written me a noto which I shall receive shortly, explaining his reasons.
I shall not fail to forward it by telephone or tslegrara as soon as possible. . He says that any delay would produoe a catastrophe.
A P P E N D I X V I
Oode telegram to Sir H. Sombold, (Constantinople),.
Foreign Office, November 7th. 1922. 10.0 p.m.
No, 547. (R). '
Most Urgent.
Your telegram No * 668,
Your proposals approved.
We learn from Paris that French Government has already telegraphed instructions to the same effect.
With the Compliments of the Chief of the imperial General Staff
Paraphras e SECREH
Prom - General Harington, Constantinople
To - lar office
2933 cipher 7th November 1922
C.H.H.124 rersonal for C.I.G.S.
You will have seen my 2925 and 2932 of today and my 2922 of yesterday. Kemalist attitude is quite impossible there is no doubt, and Cabinet will have to make a decision as to whether to deal with it severely or completely surrender. I think strong and immediate action would be successful but until I know whether I am free to let, Ismid and Chanak go I cannot embark on this . Have always been chary of getting embroiled in this ... town where we have three battalions of Guards and no guns, but their preposterous demands make retirement well nigh)5 impossible.
At any rate they have succeeded in absolutely uniting the Allies.
If we act quickly I think we can stop it, and whall be ready to do so when I get your reply. What their.object is I cannot conceive, except that they want to get money as they have ruined their chances for peace conference.
Demonstrations have been prohibited and town is quiet tonight but inhabitants are frightened.
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0 A B U S T 66/22*
A meeting of the Cabinet will he held at m, 10
Downing Street, S.W., to-morrow, F r i d a y 1 0 t h November,
1922, at 10 a,m.
A Or 3& M E TJ Ms
THE 1 . S&SIi
2 Whitehall Gardens. S .1AN
9th November, 1922..
(3d. ) M,P,A, H/J3.K1X,
Secretary
(/ (This document is the property of His Britannic
Majesty : s Government)
SECRET.
C A B I g E T 66 /2Z.
GOHCIiUcSIOHS of a meeting of the Cabinet held at He. 10 Downing Street, S.W., on
Friday, loth November, 19S8, at 10 a.-m.
P R E t f E J S T : -
The Prime Minister (In the chair)
The Most Hon. The Marquess of
Salisbury, E.G.. G.CV*0., C,B.
Lha?& President of the Council.
The Right Hon. Stanley Baldwin,
Chansellor of the Exchequer.
His Grace The Duke of Devonshire,
E.'G.-.G.CM.G., G.C.V,0,* Secretary of State for the Colonies.
The Right Hon. L.S. Amery, First lord of the Admiralty.
The Right Hon. Sir £^Griffith-
Boscawen, Minister of Health.
The Right Hon. Sir Montague Barlow, k.B.L., Minister of Labour.
The Right Hop, Viscount Cave, G*CM,E:, lord Change£lor.
The Most Hon. The Marquess Cur 3 on of keuleston, k.G, f
G.C.S. J... ,(J, 0 ,1 ,Lv, secretary of state for Foreign Affairs.-
The Right Hon. The Larl of Derby,
G.0.B,.G-C.Y.0., Secretary of State for War,
The Right Hon. Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame, k.B "E
0
,M.C., iresident of the Board of Trade.
The Right Hon, Sir Robert A. Sanders,
Barto, Minister of Agriculture and
Fisheries..
The Right Hon. Viscount Jtfovar, G. C M . G.
Secretary for Scotland.
The following were also present:-
Sir Samuel, Hoare , Bar t., C lU , G,
Secret&ry of state for Air.
Admiral of the Fleet Earl Beatty, G.CP
0*M., G.CV.0., D.S.O., First Sea lord
General the Earl of O&vanj k.I., Air Chief Marshal dir H.M.Trenchard,
G..-C*ii.-G.,e,C*V.O. , LO.3,1 ADC. Gen.
Chief of the Imperial General Staff.
Bart,, k,CB., D.S.O. , A..D.C. \ Chief
of the Air Staff.
Lieut.-Col. Sir M.P..A. Hankey, G.O.B., secretary.
(This Document, is the Property of His Sritannl^c
' Majesty', s Government,)
S E C R E T
OAgllgT 66 (22) .
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at
10, Downing Street,. S.W.I, on FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 10,
1928, at 10 a u k.
THE SITUATION
AT GONSTANTI-
NOPLE .
1. After the Cabinet had considered a Joint Report by the First Sea Lord, Chief of the Imperial General Staff,
(Previous
Reference ,.
Cabinet 65
(as) and Chief of the Air Staff (Appendix X) and bad questioned them in regard to it, the attached telegram, prepared in consultation with, and agreed to by, the three Chiefs of
Staff, was approved for immediate despatch by the War
Office to General Harington (Appendix ,11) .
2. In view of the serious situation at Constantinople, members of the Cabinet remaining in London were invited to hold themselves in readiness for an emergency -vesting, if required.
The Prime Minister authorised the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to summon a meeting if any matter of exceptional urgency arose for decision during his own absenc; from London.
8 Whit ehal 1 Gardens, S . . 1,
NovWber 1G, 192?,*-'
o
THE TURKISH
PEAOF. GON-
FERFN03.
S. While the telegram referred to above was being drafted in another room by the Secretaries of State for
(Previous
Reference,
Cabinet 64
(22), Minute
War and Air and the First lord of the Admiralty, with the three Chiefs of Staff, the. Secretary of. State, for Foreign
Affairs gave M s colleagues a full account of the latest developments in regard to the forthcoming Peace Conference
%7hieh no^? appeared likely to tabs place at Lausanne on
November 30th. instead of November 13th, as originally contemplated.
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.W.1,
November 1,0, 1-922,
APPENDIX,I.
-COMBINED STAFF APPRECIATION ON TURKISH SITUATION"
NOVEMBER 9th. 19 22,-
At a meeting in the First Sea Lord's Room at the
Admiralty, of the Chief of the Naval Staff, Chief of the Imperial General Staff, and Chief of the Air Staff, this Thursday afternoon, the Combined Staff considered the Turkish situation on the basis of the policy laid down by the late Government, and from which no instruc tions to depart have been received, namely
To hold GALLIPOLI at all costs and to hold CHANAK so long as this could be done without undue military risk, and that the maintenance of control of the deep water separating. Asia and Europe was a British cardinal interest
0
It was necessary for the Combined Staff to consider this question under..two headings -
A. Assuming a state of war.
B. Assuming the position as it actually is today.-
In the event of A (a state of war), it was considered essential,.to avoid military disaster, that CONSTANTINOPLE and ISMID should be evacuated, the troops from these posi tions reinforcing GALLIPOLI and OHANAK.
CHANAK should certainly be held'until the last possible moment without causing military, disaster. This is important in order to enable the DARDANELLES to be used for
(i) Supply purposes for the. troops in
GAILIPOLI,
(ii) Offensive operations against the
Turkish troops attempting to cross from ASIA into EUROPE,
(ill) Assisting in the protection of the
BULA1R lines from the Sea of Mar-ora end.
For the purposes of B,- that is assuming the position remains for the present as it is today, it is important that General Haringiton should be informed that, if he is . * unable to proclaim "a State of Siege in CONSTANTINOPLE ' without withdrawing for reinforcing purposes from CHANAK, then no state of siege is to be declared, since withdrawal from CHANAK endangers our lines of communication.
It is pointed out by the Combined Staff that their appreciation is based on action by Great Britain alone, and that the recommendations they rake will be materially modified if French and Italian co-operation is assured.
In this connection the report of General Burnett-Stuart, who is returning from PARIS after interviewing the French
Military authorities, will be available tomorrow, Friday, when the Combined Staff propose to inwt -and re-consid-r the situation c
- 1 - Attention, . .
Attention is sailed to Telegram No.. 2666 of General
Harington to War Office of 8.10.22. This telegram is a clear and definite statement as to the policy to be pur sued and the Combined Staff consider that a telegram t should be sent to the General Officer Commanding Constan tinopHe calling his attention to his telegram No.2666 and rf;-affirming that it is the policy to be adopted in frhrc event of war.
If thid is approved., then Telegram No, 91440 from the
War Office to General Harington dated 31.10.22, should be cancelled as th-- policy outlined in it is in contravention of the above.
(Signed) BFATTY.
The cabinet to-day considered your latest telegrams
Cypher including Mo.295?£2 of 10th Hoverabea? C11H136. . They regard the maintenance of Allied solidarity as paramount * They wish sssdxsk to repeat their assurance that you have a completely free hand in dealing with the military situation as it arises. Without in any way fettering your discretion they wish to draw your attention to the £great importance attached by the combined staffs of the- Admiralty, War
Office and Air Ministry to the retention of Chanak. With regard to this your policy should be settled in coneulta tion with the Naval Commander-in-Chief and you need not act upon instruction Three of telegram 91440 of October
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APPENDIX II.
TELEGRAM from -'AR OFFICE to GENERAL
HARINGTON, Constantinople, despatched
November 10, 1922, at 1-50 p.re
91465 cipher D.D.M..0. & I. 10th November, 1923.
Your latest telegrams including. No. 3957 cipher of 10th November, C.H...K.136 were considered by the
Cabinet today. The maintenance of Allied solidarity is regarded as paramount. The Cabinet wish to repeat their assurance that you have a completely free hand in dealing with the military situation as it arises. They wish to draw your attention, without in any way fettering your discretion, to the great importance attached to the
^retention o* Chanak by the combined staffs of the Adrairv alty, War Office and Air Ministry. Tour policy with regard to this should be settled in consultation with the Naval Commander-in-Chief and you need not act upon instruction three of telegram 91440 IUP.M.0. and I., of
31st October.
NOTE.
The above is a paraphrase,. A. copy of the telegram as approved by the Cabinet for despatch in cipher 1 the Cabinet Minutes,
is attached to
( Sd ,) M.P.A. HAIPIEY.
(THIS 1X)CUMSNT,^^TEE PROPERTY OP HIS BRIT A M 10 MAJESTY
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S E C R E T.
C A B I N E T 67 (22).
MEETING of the Cabinet to be held at
10, Downing Street, S W,, on Thursday,
16th November, 1922, at 11 a
P m a
A G E N D A .
11 a.m. . 1. FORTHCOMING CONFERENCE AT LAUSANNE. .
To approve instructions for the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.
Memorandum on the Freedom'off the Straits to be circulated by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.
2, THE QUESTION' OF, MOSUL. - - ' " ' "' '"' "'
Memorandum by the Secretary of State for the Colonies.
C.P. 4303, (already circulated).
3. THE DOMINIONS AND THE LAUSANNE CONFERENCE.
Correspondence circulated by the Secretary of State for the Colonies.
C P . 4298. (already circulated).
JOTS. The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, who has asked for this meeting, particularly requests that, in view of the great importance of the above questions, his colleagues will if possible make a point of attending. Lord Curzon thinks it possible that it may be necessary to prolong the meeting until the afternoon.
(Signed) .:.P.A. HA1IKEY.
Secretary
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(This document is the property of Eis Britannic
Majesty r s Goveaaainent)
C A 3 I B U T 67/28,
COBCLUSIORS of a meeting of the Cabinet held at Uo
0
10 Dowhing Street, S.W, , on
Thursday, 16th November, 1922, at 11 am.
P H S S E H Is-
The Prime Minister (In the chair.)
L 3 Most Hon. The Marquess of lisbury, K.G.
,&-0,Y.G.* ,G.JB.
, brd President of the Council.,
The Right Hon,, The Viscount
G c-
0 . M o
Lord Chancellor fie
R i g h t
Hon.
W o C
Bridgeman,
Pi, Secretary of State for lies Affairs.
The Most Hon,. The Marquess Ourzon of kedleston,
& , G *
S
G . C . S . I , , G . C * I . E
Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs. a Grace the Duke of Devonshire,
Go , G..
GoM* Go., G o G J , 0*, Secretary
State for the Colonies. e Right Hon, The Marl of Derby,
G *
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G , ' C o B . , G * C o V . 0 o ,
State for War.
Secretary
The Right Hon. Viscount peel,. G.B
Secretary of State for India
First Lord of the Admiralty e
0
The Eight Hon,. L.S. Amery, M.P,,
0
K
B e Eight Hon,, Sir Philip Lloyd eame, K. B*D..,M..C. ,11. P.., President
:' the Board of Trade,
,e Eight Eon. Sir Robert A.Sanders, to jM,-P 5 IvMnister of Agriculture d Fisheries,,
The Right Hon. E.P.Ll/Vood, M.P-.,
President, Board of Education..
The Right Eon, Sir Montague Barlow,
J E L . B o h *
,Jl t
P., Mini \.
The Right Hon, Viscount Hovar.,
G . C o M . G .
,
Secretary for Scotland, t
er o f Lab our
Also present:-
The Right Hon, Sir Samuel Hoare, Bart,,. C.M.G-,
-Secretary of State for SLlr
0 eut..-0ol. Sir M.P.A. Hankey, &, 0 o
B . , .-... Secretaryo
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frfte,
- S E C R E T -
CABINET 67 (22).
CCNCIUSTGNS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at 10,fio4min,q Street, S, ; ",l, on THURSDAY,.
NOVEMBER 16, .1922, at 11 a.m". .
THm TURKISH 1. After hearing from the Secretary of State for
PEACE CON \ :
PBRPNCE.. Foreign Affairs full particulars of his preliminary -cow- '
/-l n
^ ^nLcations with the French and Italian Governments on the
(Previous Ref erence Cabinet subject of the forthcoming Conference at Lausanne (see
65 (22), Minute
3 ) ' tho. telegrams mentioned in the mar.
7 in) ^ th^ Cabinet
F.O.. to Lord reached the following Conclusions :-
Hardinge
No .433, dated 14th
November,
1922 . a
That the Secretary of State- for Foreign
Affairs should proceed on the morrow to
Paris for preliminary eonversations With
M. Poincare' in regard to the matters to be discussed at the Lausanne Conference.
F.0, to Sir
R. Q rahav ,
No . 394 dated 14th
November,
192P..
Lord Hardinge to F.O., No.
599 and No.
600, dated
15th Novemrr ber, 1922..
(b). That, if these conversations indicated,
. as appeared practically certain, that there was a substantial measure of agree ment between the British and French
Governments on essential points in con nection with the Turkish settlement , Lord
Ouraon should proceed with M. Poincare to meet Signor Mussolini at Lausanne, or elsewhere, as arranged, with a view to securing agreement on all essential points between Great Britain, France and Italy before the Conference meets .
Sir R.Graham to F.0,., No.
385, dated
15th November,
19 S3 a
(c) While leaving full discretion to the
Secretary of Stft-te for Foreign Affairs, to approve, for his general guidance, the
Memorandum already forwarded to H. Poincare on November 14th, in which Lord Curzon -had set forth the British proposals on two . categories of points on which agreement between the three Powers appeared
(A) essential, (B) most desiraole. (Appendix;
U)
Freedom, of the Straits . Whi 1 e 1 eaving fu 11 discretion to the Secretary of State.--.for'
Foreign Affairs to , ad just his' attitude' according- to the position taken up by the reprysentativ.es of; the other States concerned
1 bearing in mihd also the views" of. the
Dominions), to approve,as a general guide
On', the gue sti on of the Freedom of the
Straits, the following conclusions of the
Foreign-/Offid.e' Memorandum on this subject
( Pap sr. C. P * *-4 3 08)'y
(l) That we should in /the first instance endeavour to secure "the acceptance 'hy
Prance and Italy of Marshal Fochfs proposal, to be interpreted^ if possi ble, as covering 'the Freedom of the
Straits to navigation by warships,,
(2) That if allied : unity cannot be obtained r 'on "this proposal,, or if, although agreed in principle,, our Allies refuse to exert
-any real pressure to secure Turkish ac ceptance,, we can fall back neon the interposition of the League of Nations,
(3) If defeated on both of the two above propositions 'we must endeavour to secure the formulation in t h e eventual T^ahy
: 'of Peace of the., doctrine of the commsr clal Fre -dov' of t h e Straits in such a form '.as, w h i l e in no -way t y i n g our hands for : the future,, would impose upon Turkey some measure, i f not of international control, at least of international in spection.
(NfgTE-. "Lord Gurspn particularly asked that his colleagues would study the
Foreign Office "Memorandum (Paper
'0*P.-4308), which had only been circulated shortly before the meeting, end intimated that on this question, which would pro bably not be- discussed at Lausanne for two or three w*eks, he might ha--' to ask for further instruc tions fro' the Cabinet.)
Caoitulatj.ons.-. To approve in principle the general line which the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs proposed to adopt in regard to
Capitulations, namely, while dropping the -use of this particular term, to secure that impartial Tribunals (whether mixed Inter national Courts o"" otherwise) are established which shall "ensure to foreigners resident in
Turkey those judicial conditions which are indispensable to trade and business.
IRAQ
Mosul .
(Previous
Referinee,
0 abine t
56 ( 22) ,
Conclusion
2) .
After conoidering the Memorandum by the Secretary of State for the Colonies on the subject 6*' Mosul (Paper
G-.P.-4303), the Cabinet reached the following Conclusions:
(a) That at the Lausann- Conference tho
Sec r
--1 a ry of St a t " * should be authorised to -"-\fU3 3 to dis cuss any proposal which the Turkish
Delegation might make 'or including
Mosul within the Turkish frontiers, on the - ground, among others, that
Mosul has already been conceded to the Agab' Pre*r-S'bat-e, but that Lord
Curzon should avoid committing the
British Government morn deeply than they ar-"- already committed to con tinued responsibility for Iraq..
(b) That a Cabinet Committee, compos*d as follows
The Secretary of State for the. Colonies
(in the Chair),
The Lord Chancellor,
The Secretary of State for \'ar,
The Secretary of Stat : i "br India,
The Tirst Lord of the Admiralty,
The President 0".
r tbeUoard of Trade,
The Secretary for Scotland,
Th.e Secretary of State for Air,
The Porliawentary Undv.'-Secretany of the Foreign Office..
Joint Snor-tari^o
Colonel Walker ( Cabin-t Office)
An Official o" r fhr Colonial Office — should -meet at an early date for the follow i ng puroos e s : -
(i) To examine the situation in regard to our position, in Iraq, and to -ake recommendations to L .he Cabinet in time to be considered, if desirable, before the cm pietion of th" Turkish
Peace negotiations .
To exai ine whether the "Treaty with
"in a.
Faisal n-ughf to be retifi-d.
(if
THR SITUATION 3, In view of the intimate connection between the
AT 0 ONSTANTI-
MO PLE o situation at'-Constantinople and the Peace negotiations at
Lausanne, the Cabinet reached the following. Conclusions
(Previous
Reference, (a) To place on record their appreciation of
Cabinet the success achieved by the Secretary of
66 -(SS), State for Foreign Affairs in securing
Conclusion unity of policy by the Allies in regard
1 ) . to the situation at Constantinople,
(b) To take note of the warning o the
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs that, in view of the menacing situation at Constantinople, the possibility of the Allies being forced to evacuate
Constantinople within the next few w e k s could not be ignored.
(c) To take note that, should the situation at Constantinople'render this course necessary, - the Secretary of State "for
Foreign Affairs would be prepared to send back to his post Sir Horace Ru-bold, the British High Commissioner at Con stantinople, who is to be the second
British Delegate at the Lausanne Con f ere nee,
(d) That the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs should endeavour to arrange with
M, Poincare and Signer Mussolini concerted measures for securing unity of action in various eventualities between the Allied diplomatic and military authorities at
Constantinople, and that , with a view to providing him with expert advice on the naval and military aspects of this ques tion, senior officers of the Admiralty War
Staff and War Office General Staff should accompany Lord Ourzon to Paris.
(e) That the War Office should postpone, until after Lord Curzon' s forthcoming visit to
Paris, a definite r-uly to General Ha r i m ton's telegram Ho, 3000 of Mover her 15th. asking for further instructions as to the maintenance of his position at Constantinople.
' (f) That the W r i r
Office should supply the Secretary o*" State for Foreign Affairs, before his d e p a r t u.r -!?
or Paris, w-ith a "brief" on the subject of unity of action at Constantinople in various ev o ntualities ,
(g) That, if the Turks attempted to put pressure on the Conference by action against the Allies at Constantinoplo, the Secretary of State for
For ;:ign Affairs should, in the last resort, return to London to discuss the matter with the Cabinet.
THE DOMINIONS 4; Having' cons idered'- telegraphic correspondence between
AND THE
LAUSANNE the Secretary bf State for the Colonies and the Prime
CONFERENCE.
Ministers' of. the Dominions (Raper O.T,*4S9'8) and further draft telegramd prepared in the Colonial Office (Paper
f)
ECONOMIC 6. The Cabinet approved, that the Hoard of Trade, in
SECTIONS
OP TURKISH consultatioh with the Foreign Office should consult the
PEACE TREATY. " '
-— High Commissioners of the Dominions in regard to the
Coramunica -r- ' : tidh to High British proposals for the - commercial and economic sections
Commissioners of Dominions . of the. Turkish Peace Treaty..
C I R C U L A T I O N 6. The Cabinet requested the Secretary f state for
-
TELEGRAMS. -War to arrange that., in future-, copies of War Office telegrams relating to matters of interest to the Cabinet such as the present situation.at Constatt J tinopl^^ehsmal^l be circulated to all members of the Cabinet *
, . . i
&^ Whitehall Gardens, . S.
T7 ..1
Nov-mber 16, 1933.
1 P J E E D I Z I.
POINTS ALLUDED TO IB LORD
CUBZ0H 7 S TELEGRAM EO. 433 OP 14th NOVEMBER T O LORD HARDIRGE.
CATEGORY i (."ESSLKTlAL ,r ) -
In Western Thrace- 'JSdherenoe to the understanding arrived afe iimVhe Mar*ch""disousglens that the position in Western D-hraoe shall not he alterod, and that the Turkish demands for a p!ebis-* cite shall he refused-,
II. frontier of L /estsm IU XC&C
1915 j
O J to be the frontier ceded by
Turkey to Bulgaria under"the"^Turco--Bulgarian Treaty of September
(This agreement may be subject to possible creation of a neutral zone to provide railway access for
Bulgaria to the Aegean)
B
III
0
Freedom of the -Straits,
This principle is accepted by all the Allies (vide
Note of September £2-i-d)
0
The actual manner in which it is to be applied remains for discussion. The Allied Governments should maintain a firm, accord as ' to the demilitarisation of certain, zones on the Dardanelles, Marmora and Bosphorus and as to the inspection of these areas under conditions to be'determined.
IV Capitulations,. Adherence to the March resolutions with certaln""mbSIITeat iens which His Majesty prepared to suggest to their allies
0
1 s Government will be
"V. The Islands^ in the Aegean. To bo ceded by Turkey to the allies to be disposed" of in tile manner agreed to by the latter a
VI* £Frontiers of Syria and Iraq;-. To be maintained except, in so far as the Mandatory "Powers""niay bo disposed to consider or to propose local rectification-.
VII o Mandated terrltorioa in Syria,, Iraq and Palestine o H"o change to be admitted,"
VIII, Allied Graves, The Allies to insist upon a transfer of the ownership "of the soil to them,,
IX. Indemnities. A Turkish indemnity to be demanded as proposed
In the March resolutions,, The exact figure to be determined by agreement between the allies.
The Turkish demand for an indemnity from Greece to be refused,,
The Mudania Convention^ To be strictly enforced and all
Turkish violations of it to be firmly resisted.,
XI. Constantinople vos ition. Ho withdrawal of allied troops, until ratiTicat£ori*"oi the' ifew Treaty of Turkey (September note).
CATEGORY B.
("HOST EESIPJL3L35" )
I,, Protection of Minorities.
As regards Minorities in Asia adherence so far as is still possible to resolutions ox Marsh, and as regards Minor it ies in Europe -strict adherence to terms of September agreement.
II o Tu rk is h Mi lit ary Tor c e a i
General adherence to terms of March resolutions * If a relaxation of these is.-conceded, this should not apply to the Turkish army in Europe which should be strictly limited
In numbers o
III
0
Pi nan c i a 1 C1 an ses,
These should remain for discussion between the Allied experts,
IV. Economic Glausee.
Insistence upon recognition by Turkish Government of
Allied pre-war concessions, and. annulment of Turkish repud iation of contracts since the Armistice. The methods to bo discussed, by the Allied experts,,
Gcmst.antinopie ppsition. ITo withdrawal of allied troops, ratif Teatloii oi the Ifew Treaty of Turkey (September note).
CATSGOHYB. ("HOST PESI11A3IS")
^" Protection of Minorities.
As regards Minorities in Asia adherence so far as is still possible to resolutions of March, and as regards Minor it les in Europe strict adherence to terms of September agreement ,
II. Turkish Military Forces,
General e.dherence to terms of March resolutions., If a relaxation of these is conceded, this should not apjjly to the Turkish army in Europe which should be strictly limited
In number So
III o Financial Glauses,
These should remain for discussion between the Allied expertsa
IV, Economic Clauses^
Insistence upon recognition by Turkish Government of
Allied pre -war concessions., and annulment of Turkish repud iation of contracts since the Armistice. The methods to bo discussed by the Allied experts,,
^f;
A P P S N D I X II.
The Domini ons and The Lausanne
G onference,,.
Replies to Telegrams from Dominion
Pri"me Mini ster sT
(Approved hy the Cabinet on 16th November, 1922, Cabinet 67 (22)
(1) CANADA. Secrete Following from Prime Minister for your
Prime Minister begins, I brought your message of October 31st as to Lausanne Conference before Cabinet today.-. We fully understand that it is desire.of Canadian Government that any treaty with Turkey which may result from
Conference should be submitted to Canadian
Parliament for approval before His kaiesty is advised to ratify it-.
It is our most earnest desire that you should be kept fully Informed of the development of the Conference, and we shall endeavour to send you full details.
(2) UNION OF SOUTH AFRICA.
Secret.. -Following from Prime Minister for your Prime
Minister begins:- I brought your message of October 51st as to Lausanne Conference before Cabinet today.
Our- Impression Is that Poincare^s reference to Tunis and
Morocco- was due to- his desire a few weeks ag6 to be able to cite views of Mohammedan communities under French protection in support of a pro Turkish policy. Subsequent events have evidently modified this desire to some extent, and our present view is that it would be best net to raise at present general question referred to at end of your message.
As- t-0 first part of your message, any Treaty resulting from.
Lausanne Conference will of course re-plage Treaty of Sevres and, untii it comes into- force,, a state of" war between the British'
Empire and Turkey will technically continue.- The Treaty must therefore be binding, on the whole Empire when ratified,- It remains to be seen whether there will be Successful issue to
Lausanne Conference but if there is we should much prefer that any new Treaty should follow Earls precedent- and Include signatures on behalf of all the Dominions.- If other' Dominions sign, arguments against non-s1gnature on behalf of Union of South Africa given in Mi
Lloyd Georg.e
r s message of December- 1st, 1921 In relation te
Washington Conference apply with at least equal force..
It- Is our- most earnest desire that you should be kept fully informed of the development of the Conference and we shall " endeavour to send you full details * Ends r x NOTE'. The relevant passage- in. Mr.- Lloyd George
%
's message of December 21s't-, 1921 Is as follows- f-
The lack of a Union plenipotentiary raises a serious difficulty for the British Empire Delegation.
- 2 '-- The/
The Union'as a part of the British Empire would pre sumably be' bound by the signature of the British Empire
Delegation as a whole in the absence.of a-representative to sign or withhold his signature on behalf, of the
Union'unless some special, provision were, inserted to the' effect that the Union was not bound, but would adhere later by notification of its own Government If It: thought fit. '-" Mr.Balfour telegraphs with regard. t.o.-this-.-a-.&.
i follows:"Any such provision especially in any agree meat for limitation, of armaments would-..seem,.ver.^x.upd^i'ra bis. "Only convenient course is /to.issue full powers
'bn behalf' of South Africa to one of the.,...o.the.r, delegates.
General "Smuts does not seem to approve o.f...thia..- - but any dther
1
method - of deal ing with the subjeot,.will- land, tt-s '
*'ih such" dif ficulties that I. hope he.may-.;^s-....in(?'^^ne-d'-r,to
-"withdraw - his objection. If this...is. for.
;
.any
v &B ^nt^'-
"impossible please, let me know what ..a.lteKhat:iye procedure;'', you desire adopted... Above represents.-view .of British-,:'.
Empire Delegations.
1 !^ ' . y. r. .. ' -.' v:.
This request from all the., representatives- of the
Empire on the spot you will "feel;yI .a'"v.:8ure* -carries great weight. If wo begin to. suggest spec- ah provisions
"In "the agreement for ourselves.
;
other Dowers "may -do . the same, thus possibly endangering the-whole "agreement.
Therefore, I hope that vou will. .find it-, possible ,-that-'' one""of" "the existing delegates.-. ;'at. Sfashihgton' should be appointed as plenipotentiary, for,.-the- -Unionv- ;'-'"-'--
(3) AUSTRALIA. Secret.
Following from Prime Minister for your prime Minister begins:
I brought your message of November 2nd before Cabinet today. we recognise the force o f your criticism and also feel t o the fullest extent the great danger to what we regard as the greatest of all considerations., namely the unity of the British Empire, which, would be involved in the adoption o f a foreign policy which would as you point out affect the whole Empire but which, either through the absence of representatives of the Dominions or from any other cause, would not command the full support and approval of the Empire as a w^ole.
In this case the crisis arose suddenly, and an immediate conference seemed the only hope of avoiding conflict.
If it were possible we would most warmly welcome your assistance and thet o f the representatives of the other Dominions at Lausanne' As this is impossible we can think of no better method o f dealing with the situation than that o f keeping you fully irformed of the difficulties as they arise at the Conference
The
I 0
The -Foreign Secretary is to have a preliminary meet i hg wi th M. Po ino ar e' o n S atur day and we propose to send you a full account after that meeting of the situation and prospects. Other information will bo regularly forwarded to you as the Conference continues. This will keep you as fully informed'as possible of the whole situation.
I most earnestly hope that this course of action will noet with your approval. Ends.
- Secret. Following from Prime Minister for your Prime Minister begins;
: I "brought your-message of November 3rd as to
Lausanne Conference before Cabinet today. They greatly appreciated readiness of New Zealand Govern' ment to adopt proposed procedure.
It is our most earnest desire that you should be kept fully informed of the development of the
Conference and we shall endeavour to send you full details. Ends.
(This Document is the Property of His Britannic
Ma -Jest y' s Goyornment..)
68 (23.)..
Meeting of the Cabinet to be bold at 10, Downing
Street, S.W.1, on WEDNESDAY, HOV^SISRR 29, 1922, at
11-30 a.m.
AGENDA.,
ADDITIONAL ITEM,
APPOINTMENT OP GOVEmtfOR -GLNERAL^ OP THE
IRISH PREE J STATE.
(To be raised, by the Secretary of
State for the Colonies.)
(Signed) M,P.A, HANEBY.
Whit ehal 1 Gardens , S .W .1,
November 29, 1922,
(TEI8
IB TEA PROPERTY OF HIS EPI f "AITS"IO MAJESTY' 3
go
vT:PIIMniT) .
3 V 0 R E T. 0 A B I N E T n8(22)
MEETING of the Cabinet to be held at 10, Downing: St..,
- -"' S. V., on Wednesday, November 29th, 1922 at
C 11,30 a.m.
A G .E N D A
11,30 a.m, .. 1. fa) UNEMPLOYMENT
Report of Uneirvplovment Committee
(-CP,4319 Revise) -already
- circulated,
Memo, by the Minister of Labour
(CP. 4321) - already circulated.
(b ) UNEMP ECYMEN T INSUR i 1ICE
Memo, by the Minister of Labour
^ ( C P , 4 3 2 7 ) - already circulated.
2, THE INCREASE RENT API) M O R T G A G E I N T E R E S T
T H E S T E I C T I O N S ) ACT 1 9 2 0 .
I
Memo, by the Lord Chancellor and the
Secretary for Scotland.
( C P , 4 3 2 2 ) - already circulated.
Interim Report of Departmental Committee.,.
( C P , 4 3 2 3 ) - already circulated.
.3. RELATIVE RiEE 0 ?
C P U CPAS IE THE NAVY,
A R M Y I I P A I R " !
C E C E .
Note by the Chancellor of the Exchequer covering Report of Committee,
(CP.4293) - already circulated.
Memo, by the Secretary of State for E*ar.
( C P.
4312 ) - already circulated.
4. TO TAKE NOTE OF:
(i). Conclusions- of a Conference held at
10,Downing Street on November 2oth,
1922 - .
(a) The Unemployed Marchers.
(b) The v a r Charges Validity Bill.
(ii ) Conclus I ens of a Conf erence held at
10. Downing Street on November 22nd,
1922
(I)' Ireland, Debate on the Address,
(II) The Evacuation of Troops from
Southern Ireland.,
Ph it eh all Gardens, 8.". /l (Sgd. ) M.P.A. HANKEY
28th November, 1922 Secretary.
(THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OP HIS BEIT ANfIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT') m
-(£SECRET
C A. B .1 N E T 68(22)
CONCLUSIONS, of a Meeting of the Cabinet held at No.. 10, Downing Street, S,W,-, on Wednesday',
29th November, 1922 at 11,30 a.m
a
P R E S E N
. The Prime Minister (In the Chair)
The Most IIon.
The Marquess Of Salisbury,
K, G?, G.CJ.O,, C.B. ,
Lord President of the Council.
-The HtMIon.
Stanley Baldwin, M.P.,
Chancellor of the Exchequer.
She Rt.Hon.
- Th e Vi sc ount Cave , G.C .M. G,,
Lord Chancellor.
The Rt.Hon.
W.CBridgeman, M . P . of State for Home Affairs,
His Grace the Duke of Devonshire, The RtJIon.
K, G., G.C.M.G., , . G C .V.0. ,
Secretary of State for the
Cplonies,
The Earl of Derby, X, G, , G. C. B,
G.C.V. 0. , Secretary "of '' -
State for % r ,
The Rt.Hon, '2he RtJIon.
Viscount Peel, G.B.E. , Secretary. Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame, of State for India. .K..B.E., M,C., M,P,; President of the Board of Trade,
The Etc Hon.
Sir A.Griffith-Boscawen,
Hinisfer of Health.
She Rt.Hon.
E.F. LJVood, K, ?, , President of the Board of Educaticn.
The Rt Hon..
Sir R A.Sanders, Bt. , M,P.,
Minister-of Agriculture and
Fisheries.
The Rt,Hon,
Sir Montague Barlow, Z.B.E, ,
M.P., Minister of Labour..
The Rt.Eon.
Vi sc ount E o var, G, C...M. 0,.,
Secretary for Scotland,
The following were also present:-
The Rt..Hon
u
Neville Chamberlain., M.P..,
Postmaster-General.
Major The Rt..Eon,
Sir J ohn Lc Bai r.d, 0* M. &.., ,
'D.S.. 0.., .M
,iP..., First
' Commissioner of Works,.
Colonel Wilfrid Ashley,
M. P,.,, Parliamentary
Secretary., Ministry of
Transport.,
Lieut,-Colonel Sir M.P- A Hankey,,. G.. G.B.. Secretary,
(This Document, is the Property of His Britannic
Ma i es t y * g Go v emmen t.)
E G R H T 1
Dawn
CABINET 68 (22).
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at 10, Downing Street, S.W..1, on WEDNESDAY,
NOVEMBER 29, 1922, at 11-50 a.m.. - .
IRELAND.
The Governor-
General of the Irish Free
State....
1,' -The Cabinet agreed -
(a)'That the Secretary of State for. the Colonies should be authorised to approach r T,M.. Healy,
K.C'.-, -with a View to offering him
: the post of
Governor-General of the Irish Free State in accordance with the wishes of th-' Provisional
Government of Southern Ireland transmitted to the Prime Minister in a letter by Mr W.T.
Gosgrave, the President of the Provisional
Gov erraent, Before making a formal offer of the appointment, the Duke of Devonshire tinder took to ascertain from Mr Healy that h* would not give the Royal Assent, to any -Till passed
. by the Parliament of the Irish.Free State if there existed the smallest doubt as. to whether it'fell within the constitutional powers of that Parliament, without reference to the
Secretary of State:
(h) That the Secretary of State for the Colonies should, in his formal letter offering the ap pointment, invite Mr' T. Healy to confirm in writing the above ; arrangement:
(c) ra haf--fhe lord Chancellor should advise the
Secretary of Stat^ for the Colonies as to a suitable' form, of"words for his communication to" Mr H e a l y .
2. In accordance with an undertaking given by his pre dflco-ssor, the Secretary of State for War undertook to submit at once to the Prime Minister a list of recommend ations for honours in respect of recent military services
In Ireland, with a view to their inclusion in a list of honours to be submitted to the King for publication,;if
His Majesty should approve, before December 6th, 1922.
In this connection the Cabinet were, informed that difficulties would arise if the names were reserved for the usual list of New -Year's Honours^, one of which w a s that Non-Commissioned Officers were included in the pro posed list,
* UNEMPLOYMENT.
- 3. -On a review of the situation"in -r^jjacrd -td" Unempl-oy ment, as set forth in the following documents :-
Previous
Reference
Cabinet 56
(22), Conclu sion 4,
The Report of the Cabinet Committee on
Unemployment (C.P.-4319 - Revised),
A Memorandum, by the Minister of Labour
(CP,-4381), the Cabinet agreed to the following
Trade (a) To approve the proposals of the Cabinet
Facilities Committee on Unemployment in regard to
Act.
the. Trade Facilities Act, that is to say:
(i) That the Act of 1921 be revived for a period of 12 months.
.(ii) That the maximum amount of capital
. which - and the amount of interest on which - may be guaranteed under the Act be raised from £25,000,000 to £50,000,000.
(iii) That provision be made to legalise the charging of fees on a percentage or other suitable basis to meet the heavy costs o' F legal and other expenses under the Bill.
(for Cabin--1. decision in regard to legislation See Conclusion 4,)
Export (b) To approve the recommendations of the Cabinet
Credits, Committee on Unemployment in regard to the
Export Credits Scheme, namely
(i) That the limit of the Export Credits
Scheme should be raised tQe
:
^^m&^smf^m yS6 000,-000, if the existing limit of £26,000,000 should prove insufficient,
(ii) That legislation be introduced to remove the existing ambiguity in the terms of the Overseas Trade Acts,
192C and 1921, as regards the date upon which guarantees in connection with the Export Credits Scheme are to be regarded as having been given.
(For the, necessary legislation see
Conclusion 4.)
Land Drain age and Im proverrent .
(c) To approve the proposals of the Cabinet Corn
mittee- on Unemployment in regard to Land
- Drainage and Improvement, namely
(i) That an additional sum of £170,000 should be allocated, for this purpose,
(ii) That the date by which schemes of this hind are to be finally brought to a close sh.ou.ld, as last year, be the 31st May, 1923 .
(
*
(iii) That in Scotland^he iirtpwjveinettt
of roads in private ownership used for purposes of agriculture and sylviculture should be included as land improvement works in respect of which grants may be given und'e.r this Scheme.
Lea Oons-eervahcy^ drainage.
(d) To'reserve for the present the proposal
Of - the Cabinet Committee to spend a sum. o f £40*000 on the Lea Conservancy Drain dge . This question was ; left for the decision 'of the Chancellor of the Exche* quer and the Minister of Agriculture and
Fisheries, the latter of whom undertook to obtain full details.
Afforestation.
(e)To approve the proposal of the Cabinet
Committee for the expenditure of a sum not exceeding £100,000 in the present financial year on afforestation, on the understanding that no Bill will be intro duced in the present Session,
(f) That, in order to encourage private owners to start work, an announcement should he made in Parliament of the intention of the
Government to introduce a Bill next
Session to enable the Forestry Commissioners to make grants to owners (private persons or Local Authorities).
Lord St.Davids
Un employs: en t
Grants Com mlttee.
(g) To approve the following recommendations of the Cabinet Committee:-^.
(i) That Lord St. Davids -Unemployment
Grants Committee he authorised to revert to the systec: Of making grants for relief works undertaken by Local
Authorities without borrowing money on the basis of 60 per cent, of the" amount expended in. Wage s .
(ii) That a substantial proportion of the funds available to the Unemployment' Grants
Committee for the encouragement of works for which no loan is required be allo cated to the encouragement of relief works in specifically agricultural areas that the work to be undertaken should be in the nature of improvement of v third class roads to be carried, out by
Rural District Councils (in Scotland by County Councils), that the wages . paid on such, works should in no case exceed the. agricultural rat'' of wages . settled by a Conciliation Committoe or otherwise for the Pistrict, and that the'Unemployment.Grants Committee should'relax, as occasion might require, the conditions, that 75 per cent, of the
-labour.employed on those works rust
-necessarily be ex-Service? men and that labour must be engaged through the
(St
Housing. j ?4r
/Tic.
fitorfoiti of scklyn,es tu*.dirhefan U*u)yr (fj O ?V
(h) That/," in addition to, a sum of £100,000 to £150,000 tinder-spent this year, a sum of £600,000 be put at the disposal of the Unemployment Grants Committee.
(i) That the proposal to. withdraw the present rule under which' the Unemployment Grants
Committee is hot permitted to assist Housing
.. Schemes should not be acceded. .to .
Office of
Works .
Post Office
Cables ..
Juvenile Un employment
Centres.
Arterial Roads .
(j),To approve the proposal of the Cabinet
Committee that the Office of Works should be authorised ' to' expend a sum o £375,000 on overtaking'., arrears of work o" mainten anco and repair.
(k). To approve :th'e-proposal of the Cabinet
Committee *tba.t the Postmaster-General should
. put -Into very early operation schemes (to be defrayed- from loans granted by Parliament)
5 6 for the laying of Post Office cables at a
"Tnti" 1 r"n-1."nf ?
t
of whi.eh
/
(^& 0
would tgexpended in the current year,
^x
-T^vidir7g^]3^iS3 55 men months work
(trench work only, apart from cable work).
. . The Cabinet was unable to accede to the proposal that a contribution of £20,000 should be given to the Postmaster-General to cover loss through acceleration and.the employment of unskilled labour.
(* Corrections by the Postmaster-General to the Report of the Cabinet Committee
C .P.-4319.) -.. . . . . .
(l) That the Minister of Labour should be author ised to announce in Parliament that the ques tion of the establishment of Juvenile.
Employment Centres was under-consideration" by the Minister of Education and himself, and that the two Ministers, in communication with the Local Authorities $ hoped to come to some arrangement by,which Government help could be givenj,
(m) That the Ministry of. Transport T s proposal to put in hand a £6,000,000 programme of arterial road -development at a cost to the
State (apart from the Road Fund) of £1,500,000, should be .-postponed for further consideration in the New YHar^ since,, in any event, it could not be:'put in - operation in time to relieve uneKploya?ent this winter.
(n)' That the" Mftnis ter o: should be author ised to inform Pa:.-1 is rent that iovo: lment ar- considering the question 0'" 1 riving further
' ' relief to unemployment hy means o?
work on
The -Aanche s terliv erpool Road..
(o) That the Clxme llor of the Exchequer should make immediate enquiry and- notify the Minister of Labour whether the Treasury was prepared to sanction the contribution from the Road: Fund proposed :oad from and. that ,. if this expenditure is approved the Minister.-of Labour should be at liberty to announce the fact in the Rouse of Commons.
Trade Commassloners.
Cabinet Committeo on
Unemploymentto continue..
Loans to Poor
Law and other-
Loc al Au tho r- ities .
Gravity o'i
Financial
Outlook-.
($') That the proposal of. the Overseas Trade D*ypart ment- (C.U.-491). for the - establishment of additional Trade.Commissioners in Canada and
.- -... Ind ia s hou 1 d. be - ie ft', for the d" c is ion of the
-:- Chancellor of the. Exchequer in consultation
- with the Minis fers- at. the head of the Depart ment s cone erned ..
(q),-That the Cabinet Committee on Une/.ployment should remain-in existence,, and that the
Minister of Labour should bo authorised to announce this in Parliament'. -
(r) To approve, the recommendation of the Cabinet
- Committee that a-sum of £600,000 should be allotted for the purpose of making loans,-on the same- lines - aseat" present,. to Boards of
Guardians / in Scotland, . Parish' Councils) and other Local' Authorities in respect of current f^pendifure which cannot b" financed from current-rates or by other lenders.-
('s)" To take note of the warning of the Chancellor' of - the. Exchequer as to the difficulties of the national.', financial- outlook, . which are'-p rob
not less grave
:
than the problem, o f Unemployment
. The Chancellor of.-the Exchequer undertook t o
- circulate. .d-Memorandum on this - subject.
TRADE FAQTXTPITRS.--4f:, - -The Cabinet aoproved the iinrnediato Introduction in
(m) LOAMS G-UAR.
ANTEE BILL. Parliament, -by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, of the
Austrian Loan. Trade Facilities and Loans Guarantee Bill, providing for
H I M H
Soudan Loan, the following (0.P*-4333)
(a) -The. extension of the Trade Facilities Act as recommended by the Unemployment Committee:
(b) The' guarantee required by the League of
Nations Scheme for the rehabilitation of
Austria: ' .
(c) The guarantee of a loan of £3,500,000 to be raised by the Soudan Government towards . the completion of the Gasireh dam.
- The Cabinet took npto that, before the
Bill isAintrOdtieed^ it will be necessary to take, in' Parliament' the Financial
. Resolution on which the Bill is to be founded i . '
UFAAMPLOYMEM 1 5. The Cabinet approved, the proposal of the Minister of
BENEFIT, "' "
; Labour in his Memorandum CP,-4527 that (if pressed on the
(Previous point, but not otherwise) he should have authority to mako
Reference,
Cabinet 58
(22), Cona
statement in regard to Unemployment Benefit on the elusion 4,) following lines:
"(a) That, the Unemployment Insurance Acts are, not a relief scheme but an Unemployment Insurance
Scheme:
(b) That the number of hpna fide claimants without benefit at the beginning of February will be very small:.
(c) But that the- Government will keep a very close watch on the numbers exhaust in-; benefit, and that, should it appear, in the early part of
February, that there may be uasos of hardship, we shall at once take into the roost careful consideration the question of the steps that may be necessary to deal with the matter and
?
in particular, whether an extension of benefit should be granted."
INCREASE
, OP RENT AND
MORTGAGE
INTEREST
(RESTRICTIONS)
ACT, 1920.
6. Having considered a Memorandum by the Lord Chancellor and the Secretary for Scotland on the subject of the
Increase of Rent and Mortgage Interest (Restrictions) Act,
1920 (C .P..-4332) the Interim Report of an Interdepartmental
(Previous
-Reference?,
Cabinet 40
(22), Con elusion 8 and Appendix
II.)
Committee on-the same subject (CP.-4523) and a draft Bill
(0,P.-4334)
%
the Cabinet agreed —
(a) That an announcement
:
should bo made in Parlia ment to the effect that the Committee which-had been ashed to examine the question was not yet in a position to ni ah e d o f in it e r o c o rm e nd a t ions, but had proceeded sufficiently far in its invest igations to convince the Government that some legislation would almost certainly bo necessary, and that notice should be given that legisla tion would be introduced in the next Session of
Parliament and would be retrospective:
(b) That the terms of this announcement should be framed by the Prime Minister in consultation with the Secretary for Scotland .
AGRICULTURE
" (Previ ous
Conclusion 3.)
7. The Cabinet ameed the
That the question of/agricultural policy of the Government should be considered at an early meeting of the Cabinet, for which the Minister of Agriculture land Pisherie*s^undcrtook to prepare a
Mem o r andum^
OAK AM.IK CATTLE 8. fhe Cabinet agreed
EMBARGO*
(a) That.the Minister for Agriculture and
Pishories should be authorised to (Previous reference,
Cabinet 43/22
Conelusion 1. )
', ' introduce a Bill to give effect to the ag r6ement reached- v-ith th e C *nadian
Government with regard to the Canadian
Cattle Embargo, in the -present session of Parliament:
(b) fhat the Se-cretary of State for the
Colonies should be authorised to inform the Canadian Government that the Bill would be introdixced In the present session of Parliament and that the Government hope to carry it,
- but that he could not at present iindertake that it would be pa"ssed this session.
SECRECY
OP CABIRET
PROCEEDINGS.
The,Cabinet took note of;-; a Memorandum by
Lord Stamfdrdham,.- dated 16th November, 1922, calling attention to recent examples of
Cabinet Ministers referring in public cor respondence and speech to proceedings in the Cabinet, without having previously obtained sanction to do so from the
Sovereign * a n 6 B ur g estin r t h a t ' it should, be - pointed out generally that the divulging without permission of the Sovereign of proceedings in the Cabinet is an infringement of the oath taken by
Ministers as Privy Councillors.
THE IMPERIAL 10. The Cabinet took note of a Memorandum by the
ECONOMIC Secret ry of State for the Colonies in
CONFERENCE. regard to the proposed Imperial Economic
Conference and approved the draft telegram to the Prime Ministers of the Dominions, attached thereto - C..?.4332i
DISTRIBUTION
OP FOREIGN
OFF ICE
TELEGRAMS.
(Previous' reference,
Cabinet 67/221
Conelus ion 6,J
That the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs should be asked to give instructions that a full distribution of Foreign Office telegrams should be sent dally to all Members of the Cabinet.
RELATIVE 12. Owing to the unavoidable absence of the First
R A M OF
OFFIOFRS Lord of the Admiralty, this question was postponed.
IN THE
NAVY, ARMY
AND AIR
FORCE.
- -
I S . The Cabinet took note of-the folTowing:
(i) Conclusions of a Conference held at
10, Povminp: Street, on November 20,
1933
(l) The Uner .ipl03
'ed Marchers .
(s) The War Charges Validity Bill..
(Appendix I.)
(ii) Conclusions of a Conference held at
10, Oownins Street, on November 23,
1922 """ ,.
(l) Ireland,. Debate on the Address.
(2) The Evacuation of Troops from
Southern Ireland.
(Appendix II.)
/
Novetobe r 29,.1932 . ,
/
1
Mst.le styf p. :.Gpyernteeiat.
CONCLUSIONS of a Confer end a held at 10, Downing
Street,.
S .W
*i, on MONDAY, NOVEMBER SO, 19SS, at rtlBSEkTt*
The Right Hone The Viscount
0ave
4
The Pr: Minister (in the Chair).
G*,0.M.G,, Lord
Chancellor.
The Right Hon* Stanley--
BaS&wih, M * P
Exchequer. e
,
Chancellor of the
The Right Hon. W
( B
0
B
Bridgernan,
Mo?o, Secretary of State for Home Affairs-,
The Right Hon. Sir Philip
Lloyd-Greair-e, K.B.E.,
M,G ,,M.P., President of the Board of Trade.
The Right Hon. Sir Artists?
Griffith Boseawen^ Minis of Health.
The Right Hon -c Sir Montague
Barlow, K a
BJB.
s
M c
P
M
"Minister of Labour.
The Right Hon. L,S
Admiralty.
0
Amery,
M*P*i First Lord of the
Mr Douglas McCare! Hogg, K ff
C
M.P., Attorney-General.
S13?
M
0
P.A, Hankey, G.C.B., Secretary, Cabinet.
THE UITEMPLOTED -""1.
A f t e r ^ ( K M A L D E R L A A ^ O O T R E S P O N D E N O A between the Prime
V&ARCHERS.
Minister and the National Unemployed Workers' Committeej
;i and speeches (some of a seditious character) delivered on
November 19th in Trafalgar Square by the leaders (many of them well-known Communists) of the Unemployed March to
London, the Conference agreed
(a) That the Prime Minister should adhere to his refusal to receive a deputation from the Unemployed, on the grounds that the proper pars one to see them were the
Ministers at the head of the Departments concerned; that the Prime Minister and hia colleagues must be the judges of oases in which the constitutional procedure was to be departed fro ml and that the proper place in which to challenge the Gbvefn ment '8 policy on Unemployment.was the .
House of Commons o When reaffirmed, this policy must be adhered to:
(b) That a letter notifying this decision to the National Unemployed Workers should be drafted by;-
7 Committee
The Lord Chancellor^,
The Po 31mas te'r-*General
9
The Attorney-General
5 lie T. Jones (Secretary) ,
A copy of the letter is attached in the
Appendix,
(b) That Mr ,1*0*0. Davidson, M.P., the Prime
Minister 7 s Parliamentary Secretary, in concert with the Acting Chief of the
Metropolitan Police, should arrange for publicity to he given to the Communist oharact-ejr and record of the leaders of the unemployed marchers:
(d) That It was inadvisable to prosecute those of the speakers at the Trafalgar Square meeting who had used seditious language, as this would unite the Labour Party in the House of Commons against the Government, and give a wide advertisement to the Communists.
THE WAR CHARGES 2. Th* Conference agreed —
'(VALIDITY) . BILL.
(a) That the'War Charges (Validity) Bill
.-. - should not be mentioned in. the Kingis The King' & -
Speech. Speech, and. that no announcement should
. - . be made in the House.of Commons ..ab the outset of the. new Parliament that the
WarCharges (Validity) Bill would he taken in the present Session:
,(b) That the Attorney-General should do everything possible, to delay Petitions
.. of Right in regard to matters , covered by the War Charges (Validity)' Bill by intimating that the legislation which was foreshadowed in the last Session of
Parliament would be Introduced in an early session and would be retrospective
2, Whitehall Gardens; S.W.1,
November 20.,-. 1922.-"''
20th November, 1922.
Sir,
I am directed by the Prime Minister to acknowledge the receipt of your latter of the 18th Instant in which you again"request that he should receive a deputation of unemployed who have come to London from the Provinces in order to lay their grievances before the government.
The Ministers primarily responsible for doalinlg with the alleviation of unemployment are the Ministers of
Labour and Health. Both Ministers being members of the
Cabinet are fully empowered to act on behalf of the
Government and have expressed, their readiness to receive a deputation. If their answer is deemed unsatisfactory it can be challenged in the constitutional manner and place, namely, by raising the question In Parliament.
In these circumstances the Prime Minister is unable to depart from the decision already communicated to you., and he again suggests that you should place yourselves in communication with the Ministers concerned.
I am to add that the Prime Minister is fully conscious of the hardships which the present economic situation inflicts on large numbers of men and women throughout the country, and the Government is addressing itself to the consideration of every possible remedial measure.
"Yours truly,
(Sd.) RONALD WAREHOUSE,
. Esq.,
Queer, Square,
. C, 1.
Qli m
G OHF IDE r f x
IAL .
The S e c r e t a r y t o t h e C a b i n e t p r e s e n t s h i s c o m p l i m e n t s a n d e n c l o s e s a C o r r i g e n d a t o t h e D r a f t C o n c l u s i o n s of t h e C o n f e r e n c e h e l d on November
2 2 n d , 1 9 2 2 .
The L o r d C h a n c e l l o r a s k s h i m t o e m p h a s i s e t h a t t h e O p i n i o n g i v e n
I n C o n c l u s i o n 1 ( d ) r a s p r e p a r e d f o r
I n f o r m a t i o n of t h e Members of t h e
C a b i n e t , a n d s h o u l d n o t b e q u o t e d t e x t u a l l y i n p u b l i c .
DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY' 8 S .GOVERNMENT)
G R E T,
7)
CONCLUSIONS of a Conforenoe Laid at No. 10, *****
Downing Street, S..W,, on Wednesday, -22nd
November, 1922, at 6.0 p.m.
0 O R R I G E N D A.
Conclusion 1 (d) should read es follows
"To take note of the following legal opinion prepared for the information of the. Cabinet :
' In Cur opinion there Is nothing in the
Constitution of the Irish Free State as - enacted by the Irish Parliament which violates the Treaty between Great
Britain and Ireland. Even if expressions can be found in seme Articles which, taken by'themselves. might seem inconsistent with the Treaty, the defect is cured by Clause 2 of the Irish Act, which gives to the Treaty the force of law and invalidates any provision of the Constitution in so far as It is
, repugnant to the Treaty.
0 * x Ti ci"ision 1 (f*)' litis 7.
. (Signed) CAVE.
DOUGLAS McGABEL HOGG.* "
/or "Northern Ireland" read "Northern and Southern Ireland
( S1 gn e-tf.). ..M * P, A'.' SAN KEX^..
Wiiitehall Gardens, S.W.,
25th November, 1922.
^ (This Document is the Property of His Britannic
$ Ma j c st y 1 s Gove r nme nt)
SECRET
CONCLUSIONS of a Conference held at
No 10, Downing Street, S o
6,0 p.m; n
Wednesday, 22nd November, 1922, at
PEESEN T:-
Sa.e Mcst Hon.
Ihe Prime Minister (In the Chair)
Marquess of Salisbury,
K. G , G.C.V.O. , C B,", Lord
President of the Ceuncili
She Rt.Hon,
Viscount Care, G.C.M.G.,
K.C., Lord Chancellor.
She Rt,Hpn*
S t anley Baldw in, M, P,,
Chancellor of the Exchequer,
The RtMIon.
Viscount PitzAlan of Derwent,
G.C.V.O., D.S.O., Viceroy of'
Ir el find.
His Grace the Dulce of
Devonshire, 2,G., G.C.M. G,
G.CiV;C, Secretary of
State for the Colonies,
The Ron,
^. Ormsby-Gore. M,P.,
Par 1 iament ary Und e r- S e c r tary,,,.Colonial Office e lieut^-Colonel The Rt. Hon..
Leslie Wilson, C.M.G., D.S
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Chief Whip.
(For a short time only).
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Sir Maurice Hankey, G,,C
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Secretary,
B,, ,
, IRELAND. 1. In the oourse of a discussion primarily concerned
Debate on with the line to be adopted in regard to Ireland by spokes the Address . men for the Government in both Houses of Parliament in the forthcoming Debates, it was agreed —
(a) That the Secretary of State for the
Colonies should be authorised to communicate copies of the Irish Bills to Sir James Graig, the Prime Minister of ITorthem Ireland, and to Mr Cosgrave, the Prime Minister ef Southern Ireland, for confidential information:
(b) That the general attitude of the Govern merit towards the Bills should be deter mined by the consideration that the
Irish Treaty had not only been given statutory force by Act of Parliament, but had been before the country at a
General Election, - when no responsible opposition to it had been raised.
Consequently the Government had no alternative but to carry through the policy of ratification, and would do so not only in the letter but in the spirit:
(c) That Government speakers should adopt a sympathetic attitude towards those who had suffered from events in Ireland.
In regard to compere aticn, for which the
Irish Government is responsible, they should be guided by the following passage from a recent speech by the Prime Minister:
"I know what the financial positL on of this country is, and I know that these claims ought to be met from
Ireland itself; but I do say this, that in considering these claims we will look at them with a sympathetic mind and determined to do anything to help which we reasonably can do in that dir -ction" . , ,
(d) Tfeat in regard"to t h e Eriah C-e ^&trartut io-n, lb g a 1 Qp-ini-e-ft:
"In our opinion there is nothing in the Constitution of the Irish. Free
State as enacted by the Irish Parlia ment^ which violates the Treaty between
Great Britain and Ireland. Even if expressions can be found in some Articles which, taken by .themselves, might seem inconsistent with the Treaty, the defect is cured by Clause 2 of the Irish Act, which gives to the Treaty the force of law and invalidates any provision of the Constitution in so far as it is repugnant to the Treaty.
(Signed) CAVE.
DOUGLAS McGAREL HOGG ."
The Attorney-General points out that the term- is an abbreviation of the longer phrase used" in the King established under the Irish Free. State (Agreement) Act of last session, sitting as a Constituent Assembly.
r s Speech, viz, "the House of the Parliament
TT
(e) To take note of the decision of the
" Cabinet. Committee on Irish Legislation that no provision should be made in the
Bill in regard to indemnity, includi ng
Indemnity to soldiers . If this should be pressed for in Parliament it should be dealt with by a third Bill, although it is no longer possible to pass in the
Imperial Parliament an Act of Indemnity which would be applicable to the Irish
Free State:
(f) To take note that the Prime Minister of
Northern Ireland had accepted a period of five years within which the Council of Ireland might be brought into opera tlon by agreement, and that, subject p n to confirmation by the Government of
Jc ^ACW.^,^-—^North^rT^reland^ this period would be inserted in the Bill:
(g) That the question of altering in the
Royal Title the words "the United Kingdom, of Great Britain and Ireland" should not be raised in either of the Irish Bills: the view taken was that no alteration in the Royal Title could now be made witlicut full consultation, as in 1901, with all the Dominions and India:
(h) That the Chief Whip should at once notify the Whips of the Opposition Parties in the House of Commons that both the Irish
Free State Constitution Bill and the Irish
Free State (Consequential Provisions) Bill must be passed into law by December 6th, and not the former only, as notified to them earlier in the day, and that the '
Parliamentary time-table would have to be amended accordingly:
(i) That the following names should appear on both the Irish Bills:-
The Prime Minister. '' "
The Home Secretary.
The Atitorney-C-eneral,
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of the Colonial .Office
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THE E7ACU4TI0M 2
OF TEOOPS EEOM
SOUTHERN IRELAND. Memorar, dum by the Secretary of State for War on the subject of the Evacuation of Troops from Southern
Ireland (C,Po4215) the Conference agreed fa) That the Secretary of State for War should be authorised to inform the
General Officer Commanding in Chief in Ireland "that the British forces would be withdrawn from Southern . .
Ireland after December 6th Prepar a ations for the withdrawal of the troops should be made as unostentatiously as possible, but there should be no announcement for the present
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(b) That the Secretary of State for the
Colonies should notify the above decision confidentially to Mr,Cosgr^ye.
(o) That having regard to assistance given
1
in the past to other Dominions in suppressing insurrections, no decision should be taken at present to limit the supply of munitions of
F a
to the Government of Southern Ireland. and that the arran gements for payment by that Government for supplies of such munitions given after December 6th. should be considered by the- Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Secretary Of
State for War. fd) That the disposal after December 6th of the stocks of surrendered arms and ammunition should be settled by the
Secretary of State for the Colonies and the Secretary of State for War in consultation with Mr
0
Cosgrove oh the. general basis that, where arms and munitions had been haided over to the
Irish Provisional Government, that
Government should be responsible for them
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23rd November, 1922
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SECRET 9 0 CABINET 69(22)
MEETING of the Cabinet to be held at No.
10, Downing Street, 8.V7.1, on Thursday,
December 7th, 1922 at 12.0 Noon.
AGENDUM.
12., 0 Noon,-. . gjjSMLJ)! SOUSS ION ON THE FORTH CO MING MEETING
OF PRIME MINI VfERS ON RE PAR IT IONS.
Memorandum by the Foreign Office on the
History of the negotiations with regard to the Payment of Reparation and of
Inter-Allied Debts (excluding the American debt) since the despatch of the Allied
Ultimatum to the German Government of
May 5th, 1921.
(C.P.4344 - to be circulated)
Memorandum by the Foreign Office on the attitude of the French, Belgian and Italian
Governments to the latest developments in
. the Reparation negotiations.
(CP.4345 - to be ciirculated )
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.W. (Sgd. ) M.P.A.Hankey
6th December,1922. Secretary.
CABINET 69(82)
MEETING of the Cabinet to be held at No.
10, Downing Street, 3.A.1, on Thursday,
December 7th, 1922 at 12.0 Noon.
12,,0 Noon,
AGENDUM.
GEHERAJL
-
DISCU^3I0N ON THE FORTHCOMING MEETING
OE PRIME MINISTERS ON REPARATIONS.
Memorandum by the Foreign Office on the
History of the negotiations with regard to the Payment of Reparation and of
Inter-Allied Debts (excluding the American debt) since the despatch of the Allied
Ultimatum to the German Government of
May 5th, 1921.
( C P . 4344 - tp be circulate
Memorandum by the Foreign Office on the attitude of the French, Belgian and Italian
Governments to the latest developments in the Reparation negotiations.
(CP.4345 - to be cairculated)
2, Thitehall Gardens, 3.
P.
6th December,1922.
(Sgd. ) M. P. A. Han key
Secretary.
fSbls Doctonent is th Property of His Britannic
Majesty 1 a Government)". cr
SECRET .
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I H E f 69 (£2)
Q CONCLUSIONS of a meeting of the Cabinet held at Ho. 10, Downing Street', S on Thursday,
7th December,19 22 at 12.0 Noon.
P R E S E N T:
Th-e Prime Minister (in the Chair)
Th e- Most Hon A
Th e Mara ue s s. 0 f Sal I sburv,
K.G.; G.C.V-0V; C B v , lord
President of the Council
The Rt.Hon.
The Viscount Cave, G.-C..M, G,
Do rd Ch anc el 1 or.
The- Rt .,Hon.
Stanley Baldwin,. M,.p
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,
Chancellor- of the Exchequer,
His Grace the Duke of, Devonshire,
K, G, G, C .M, G..,. G.;.C-.. V. 0..,
Secretary of State for' the-
Colonies.
The RtMIon.
Viscount Peel,-. G-vBvEv.',
Secretary of State for India.
The Rt,Hon. .
Sir Philip Llovd- Greame . 3CB.B' ,
M, C. , M,P, ,. President of the
Board of Trade'.
The At, Hon.. . .
Sir Robert A.Sanders,' Bart;',.
M,,P.y Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries,
W, C. Bridgeman, M. P. , Secret tary of State for Home
Affairs.
The Rt. Hon.
. The Earl of Derby, K, G. ,
G C B, , GvCVlO.- Secretary of State for War.
The. .Rt,Hon.
LvS.Amery,. M. P. , First \
Lord of the Admiralty, i I
The RtV-Hohv
Sir A. Griff ith-Boscawen
Minister of Health.
The Rt.Hon.-
Sir Montague BapAow,- K, B
C
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M/P. , Minister of Labour.
The -Rt Hon.'
Vis Count Novaft G.. C ,, M
S e c r e ta ry for S
C
.G.
Ronald McNeill, Esy., M.P. , Sir Eyre A.Crowe, G.C,M.G,V
Parliamentary Under Secretary, K..C.B. ,. Permanent Under
Foreign Office, Secretary, Foreign Office.
Sir John Bradbury, G...C B,,
Principal British Representative,
Reparation Commission.
Lieut,.-Colonel Sir M.P.A Hankey,; G.C ..B. ..... -A .-... Secretary^.
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Ma j e s t v s G- ov ernment,)
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CABINFT' 69%(.2
2)
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at
No. 10, Downing Street, ?.S
:
on THURSDAY,
DECEMBER 7, 1982, at 12 Noon, :
VV.* T:
1. On a consideration of Lord; 3-arzo.nfs telegram of
December/St.h'f No . 80) from Lausanne (AppendixV recording a Turkish offer to meet us on every point in the Turkish
,Treaty If we would hand over to', them the Mosul'
;
vilayet,. and c-oiitaining an alternative suggestion to' offer to the
Turks the Kurdish part of the--Mosul:vilayet, the Cabinet agreed,— - . , -
(a) That the question should be'.;considered
... . * on .the following day as Itho^f^fe on the - e
Agenda,.at the reefing already arranged ,. u
(b) That the Foreign Office,' in consultation with--the Secretary of State for the Dolohiesy '
--should, r^-ply to Lord'Curs-en that Mr Buliard
. . would be sent to Lausann-- at'once; that no definite decision should "be taker,'until
Lord. Curzon, after discussing the question wlt.h' Mr.-Builard;,.- had again advised and consulted the. Cabinet; and' that the ques tion would be considered on the following day by,.the Cabinet. Commit tee on Iraq.'
S, After hearing-from -the/Prime -Minister and Sir ,J-ohn..
Y EFJHMAN REPA-.
RATIONS, f * For-th ng Con
. v e T S
ations .
Bradbury (the British. Representative on. the-Reparations
Commission) statements of the present situation in regard to German Reparations,, as set forth, generally irv-Memarajxda.^
( Previous
Reference,
Cabinet 52
(22), Aopen
. dxx V (1) ,
CoreIrsion
(a) ) . circulated by the Foreign Office I CP.-4344, CP,-4345 and CP.-4348) , the Cabinet approved the ,proposals of the
Prime Minister as to the attitude to be adopted by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer and himself at the forthcoming conversations with the Prime Ministers of Prance, Belgium and Italy, as summarised below:,
(a) That every effort should be made to induce
NL Poineare' to state his proposals in regard to reparations.. After hearing these proposals the discussion would probably be adjourned to give time for their consideration. If their examination was found likely to require so much, time as to prolong the London eonversa tiers unduly, the British reply should be postponed to a further meeting tc be held
'in Paris later in-the month.
(b) In. this latter event an undertaking should be given to Sft. Poineare'that, if his proposals were not found to provide an acceptable basis for discussion, the British Government would put forward their own counter-proposals in an attempt to reach a real settlement. These counter-proposals should be the subject of further consideration by the Cabinet, and must in any event be presented to the French
Government before any possible breakdown in r
the negotiations. j(c) A proposal for an Allied Conference on Re- parations at Brussels Cfcould not be rejected absolutely, but any proposal to place the question of Inter-Allied Debts on the Agenda of the proposed Conference should be refused, as at this Conference Great Britain would be
/ the only large creditor country among a large number of debtor States . It should be pointed out that the question" of Inter-Allied -Debts is one on which agreement should be obtained, in the first instance, by the States repre sented at the London conversations. Every effort should be made, if the question is raised, to induce M. Poincare to table his proposals,^which would be submitted to the
Cabinet befor a final decision was taken.'
3. Members of the Cabinet were, asked to hold themselves in readiness during Saturday and Sunday, December 9th and 10th, for a Cabinet Meeting at short notice,, if required
In the course.of the Conversations,
C O N S T R U C T I O N '".
4. The Cabinet took note that the question of the
O P THE. T W O
OAPITAX SIT. IPS const ruction, of the two capital ships permitted to
UNDER THE;. ' .' - A '
WASHINGTON .f-reat. Britain Under the provisions of the Washington
. T R E A T Y . ' \ " '
; ,,, . Treaty, for the Limitation of Naval Armaments, is to
(Previous be $hs subject of immediate oonveraations between the
Reference,
Cabinet 9 Chancellor of the Exchequer and the First Lord of the
(S3), Con- --; 4
n o t omsion -Admiralty, and that, if agreement is/reached, a Cabinet
.-decision ,will be taken in sufficient time for orders to be placed before the date necessary for com pliance -with the terms of the Treaty *
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THE SITUATION
1 % CONS TAW-
5. Placing considered, as a' mat-tar of vargency., General
'
TtNOPLE. , Earing ton'a telegram of December 7, 1922 (No. -3165), as
-well as a Joint Appreciation by the" Chiefs of Staff of
(Previous the Navy, Army and Air Force, -dated December 4, 1922
Reference,
Cabinet" 67 ';' (Reg. No'.' FA/J/S) , the Cabinet agreed' —
(22) / W o n . elusion. 3.) (a)' That, as a first step, the Foreign Office
' ' should telegraph to Lausanne drawing Lord
'' " Cursor's" attention to General Harlhgton's telegram; stating that it appeared nec.es sary to- issue instructions to General
Harirtgf on;, ashing if.
; which would limit the danger, of friction
- in Const ant iho pie 1'' and'inviting his views generally:
Lord Curzon had con-,
' "eluded' any' arrangements- -with the Turks ;
(b) That, in the event of Lord Curzon replying that he sees no immediate danger of a break at Lausanne, the Secretary of State for War, in consultation with the Prime Minister, should have authority to instruct General
Harington to make the best of the situation without enforcing martial law.
$IRELAND.: - 6. Hie Cabinet took note of the following letter,.
Governor-
General, of from the Prime Minister of,the. Irish Free State to the the Irish .. Prime Minister on the subject, of the appointment of
Free State.--'". .
' Mr T..M. Healy as Governor-General- of the Irish Free-State-:
(Previous
Reference,
Cabinet 68
(28), Con elusion 1(a) .)
"RIALTAS- SEALADAOS NA HEIREANN
- (Irish Provisional Government)
Private and Confidential.
Dear.Prime Minister,
.PRESIDENT'S OFFICE,
BAILE ATHA OLIATH.
4th December, 1922. .
I am in,receipt of your note intimating, that your Government have agreed to recom rcend Mr T.M. Healy as Governor-General of the Irish Free State.
I wish to convey to you and the other members of your Cabinet the sincere thanks of myself and my colleagues and our deep appreciation of the manner in which our wishes have been met.in the matter.
Yours v-ry truly,
(Sd.) W.T. COSGRAVE. "
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.W.1,
December 7, 1922.
A P P E N D I X.
S W I T Z E R L A N D .
Decypher. Lord Curzon (Lausanne) .
December 5th,- 1922.
D. 3.4-5 a.m, December 6th, 1922.
R. 8.30 a.m. December 6th, 1922.
No. 80.
Secret.
Second Turkish delegate Riza Nur Bey called, this morning to renew private conversation which he had begun yesterday. After many (? protestations of) friendly inten tions en both sides his case bailed down to this that Turkey would meet us on every point, conclude satisfactory treaty and even break with Soviet, if only we would give them
Vilayet of Mosul. Grounds, upon vhich he based this request were four in number :
1. Ethnic, which I sharply contested.
2. Historical, i.e., long connection with Turkey.
3, Economic i
;
.c., necessity for future economic life of Turkey in Asia.
4. National pact i.e., absolute and unalterable refusal of Angora to conclude any treaty that does not embrace Mosul,
I combatted whole of these points, and declined to
-yield upon any mere.
Colonial Office argument has led me to think that Mosul' cannot be given away without loss of Baghdad nor Baghdad without loss of Irak and collapse of Irak Kingdom, nor
-collapse of Arabs without return of Turks and final defeat of
British policy in the East. I also wonder somewhat how far
Turks demand for Mobul was really genuine, hou far it might be inspired by hope of thus wresting formal victory for Turkey in
Asia; or again whether It might not be subtle device of Turks, perhaps instigated by Russia to be able to say to the world later on "we offered to make peace with allies and'notably, with Great
- 1 -' Britain/
Ill
Britain, w e were willing to meet them on every point provided, only we recovered Mosul, but for the sake of Mosul and Its oil Britain flouted us and refused peace to the world
!
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This afternoon Idea occurred to'me that it might perhaps bo possible ostensibly and partially to meet Turkish wishes by offering them Kurdish part of Mosul Vilayet following line of mountains and including Keui Sandjak Rowanduz and
Sulelmanlek, while-retaining, for Irak Amadia for the sake of
Assyrian Christians Mosul town Erbil Kirpa and. whole -of plain country Inhabited by Arabs, Jaffer Pasha to-whom'I--submitted proposal was quite favourable, while pleading strongly., against-any Surrender of plain country.
Please ask Colonial Office to send out Young if he is sufficiently recovered, or failing him Bullard who has great.local knowledge, and to favour me with their views on above suggestion. It is not Intended to exclude Turkish participation in Mosul oil on;lines already under-'.-examination.
SUGGESTED AMENDED DRAFT.
Your telegram No. 68. The Chiefs of the Naval,
Military and Air Staffs are so decidedly opposed to conceding to Turkey the right to fortify the Straits that the Committee of Imperial Defence feel unable to recommend endorsement of the proposal of your Naval and
Military Advisers as it stands.
On the other hand, the Admiralty consider that the right of free passage for warships is the most important point to concentrate upon. If that right is conceded in the Treaty, it can be kept alive from the outset by us and could only be interfered with by a definitely hostile act on the part of Turkey, If to secure this some concession as regards demilitarisation becomes inevitable, it should be made only as regards the Asiatic side,
Gallipoli Peninsula and the European Shore of the Bosphorus remaining demilitarised as part of the general policy of demilitarising the Frontiers of Turkey in Europe.
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C A 3 I E E T 70 (22).
IPTETTEG of the Cabinet tc he held at 10,
Downing Street, S . , on llonday., 11th December,
1925
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at 11.0 a cm.
A G E IT D U M. ''
11,0 sum RCPAPt^TIOlTS ,
(Signed) M.p .A . EALfSSY,-
Secretary,
2, "hitehall Gardens, S.Y7, 1.,
10th -jecember,, 1922.
(TEillS-
DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OR HIS.. BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT)
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SECRET C A B I N E T 70 (BZl
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet "held at No, 10,Downing Street, S-.P. on Monday,
11th December, 1922 at 11.0 a.m.
PRESENT:-
The Prime Minister (in the Chair)
ISie Most Hon. the Marquess of Salisbury,
I Go, e . O J , O GoB., lord
President of the Council
She Rt.Hon,
The Viscount Cave, G.C.M.G. ,
Lord Chancellor. jibe Rt,Hon,
Stanley Baldwin, M,P..
Chancellor of the Exchequer. lie Grace the Duke of De yon shire,
K, G,
;
G,CvM,G. , G.,C .7 0, , e
Secretiry of State for the
Colonies, he Rt..,Hon\,
M
B r7
Hie B^ard of Education,
p , Minis t er of Lab our,
The Rt.Hon.
W/CBridgeman, M.P., Secretary of State for Home Affairs*
The Rt.Hon.
She Earl of Derby, G*,
G,C,3. G,C.V,0. , Secretary of State for Har* ie Rb-Hon.
Yisoount Peel, G.B E
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,
Secretary of State for India.
The Rt.Hon,
L,S,Amery, M
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P.,,. First Lord] of the Admiralty.. he Rt,Hon..
Sir Philip Lloyd Greame,H
11., C, of Trade.
0
B,E,, ,
The RtaHon.
Sir Arthur Griff ith-Boscawe. t
1:1.,p. , President of the Board Minister of Health.
The Rt,H6n.
Sir Robert A*Sanders, Bart,,
M.P., Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries,
The Rt,Hon,
- Viscount Novar, G.C.M.G,,
Secretary for Scotland.
The following were also present
MeNe.Ill,Esq. , M.P.,
Parliamentary Under Secretary,
Foreign Office.
Sir Eyre A.Crowe, G,CM, G v
,
Z.C.B,, Permanent Under
Secretary, Foreign Office^ faeut.-Colonel Sir M,P.A,Hankey, G.C.B.- . .. .. Secretary,
3 B 0 R, B T -
(This Document is the Property off His Britannic
Ma 3 esty
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OABXWgT 70 (3,3) .
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at 10, Downing Street, S.WJ, on
MONDAY , DECEMBER -11, 1923, at 11 a.m.
REPARATIONS. 1. After hearing from the Prime Minister an account of the Conversations which, he and the Chancellor of the
(Previous Exchequer had held on the two previous days with the Prime
Reference,-
Cabinet 69-, Ministers and Representatives of Prance, Italy and Belgium
(22), Con elusion 2.) (as set forth in detail in the British Secretary's Notes
I.C.P.-254, I.0.P.-255 and I.0.P.-256) as well as of a subsequent formal talk between the Prime Minister and M ,
Poincare on the previous evening, the Cabinet agreed —
(a) That, in view of the --inability of the French
President of the Council to enter'into any arrangement which did not include the ocou pat ion of Essen and the. Ruhr, and in view of the importance of not giving to the Turks during the- Lausanne Conference any impression of a breach in Allied unity, the b-st course for the moment was to adopt the arrangement agreed to between the Prime Minister and
'-M-r"Poincaro as set forth in the following draft formula:
"The Allied Prime Ministers have carefully examined the present position of the Repara tio-ns problem, as well as the cognate question of the inter-Allied debts.
-f,
A plan for an interim, arrangement in regard
to Reparations, submitted by the German Chan cellor, v/as also considered and was unanimously found to be unsatisfactory.
It is not possible, in the time available, for the Allied Prime Ministers to arrive at definite conclusions on the momentous issues involved.
In the circumstances, it was decided to adjourn ,the present meeting of the Allied Prime
Ministers, but to arrange for their re-assembly in Paris on the "4th of January.
(b) That, in announcing the above arrangement to Parliament, the Prime Minister should intimate that the questions of Reparations and Inter-Allied Debts were being further, considered, and that the British Government hoped to be in a position to present pro posals for a complete settlement at the Paris meeting in January. In view of the inaccurate reports in the newspapers, the Prime Minister should also make it clear what the British proposals were.
(c) That the proposal contained in the German
Note of December 9th (l.C .P.-256, Appendix I ) , was inacceptable in its present form and, in vie" r of the attitude of the Allied Prime
-Ministers, could not be used as a basis for coxmter-proposals . The possibility need not be excluded that before the January
Conference the Germans themselves might present revised proposals of a more accept- able c bar a c t -- r.
' NORTHERN S. The Cabinet agreed
IRELAND' ^ ^ ^ should be designated
' C Department as the. Department of the British. Government^ for Oommu- responsible for cornrrunxcatxons wxtn xJorthera nxcation with. Ireland.
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^CONSTRUCTION Z.
The Cabinet took note o-\ and approved, an agree-
F TWO CAPITAL
HIPS UNDER ment arrived at between th- Chancellor of the Exchequer
HE WASHINGTON
REATYo and the First. Lord of. the Admiralty for the construction of the two capital ships permitted to the British Empire
- previous under the provisions of the Washington Treaty for the
iabinet 69 Limitation of Naval Armaments, which, the Cabinet were
82) Conclu lion 4.) informed, would immediately be announced In Parliament.
m r
THE CANADIAN 4. On a. consi&eration-o^^
OATTEE EMBARGO.'
Minister by the President of the Irish Free State, dated
Its Applica tion to
Ireland
December 9, 1922 (Appendix) on the subject of the Canadian
Cattle Embargo and the application under the Bill of statu tory restrictions on the Importation of Irish cattle, the
(Previous
Reference:' Cabinet agreed —
Cabinet 68,
(280, Conclusion 8.)
(a) T h a t i n view of the agreement entered into by the late Government with the Canadian Gov ernrnent, it was impossible to make an exeep tion in the case of Ireland to the application of statutory restrictions which, the Cabinet were informed, for the last twelve months had been in force under Regulations'
(b) That the reply which, at the request of the
Prime Minister, was already being prepared by the Attorney-General in consultation with the .
Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries, should be remitted for approval by the Prime Minister, the Secretary of State for the Colonies, the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries and the Attorney-General:
(c) That the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries should be at liberty to announce in the House of Commons that the House would be given an opportunity at a reasonable hour to discuss the Order admitting Canadian Breeding Cattle, which would be issued under the provisions of the Bill and laid on the Table o^ the House.
2, Whitehall Gardens, S.Y.M,
December 11,"19 22.
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APPENDIX.
SAORSTAT EI.REA3TM
(IRI^R EREB STATE) c
PRESIDENT 1 S OFFICE,
Baile Atria Cliath,
(DUBLIN).
9th December, 1922
0
Dear Prime Mini s t er,
I desire to invite your attention to a grave aspect of the bringing of Ireland into the Bill for removing the embargo on the importation of
Canadian Store Cattle *
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and to put it to you that the imposition of statutory restrictions on the importation cf Irish cattle to Great Britain should be deferred at least until the Irish Ministry of Agriculture has had an opportunity of discussing the case with the British Ministry, as has been afforded to the Canadian Ministry in respect of cattle from that Dominione
That aspect Isj that in the first week off the existence of the Free State Great Britain, will appear as directing against Ireland's principal industry a new and permanent disability, not only without previous intimation, but contrary to what we were led to expects
I would draw your attention to the fact that when the Conference between your Ministry of
Agriculture and the Canadian Representatives commenced, the Irish Agricultural Department immediately raised the question of Ireland's being consulted with regard to the proposed new regulations,. Your Ministry of Agriculture replied, in a letter dated 2nd November, that the negotiations which had been taking place with the
Canadian Government related to the Conditions under which Canadian cattle might be admitted into
Great Britain and" that , therefore. It was not possible to make the Irish Government a party to these negotiations. It now appears from a further letter from your Ministry, dated Oth . instant, that Irish cattle are being included in the ..EiIl as a result of a stipulation made by the Canadian Government that restrictions similar to those imposed on Canadian cattle should be placed on all other imported cattle
0
These facts make it very difficult for me to combat the view which prevails here that Ireland is not
/Finally
Finally,, the step is entirely unnecessary' as a measure- for protecting live stock in Great
Britain from any danger of disease being spread through the agency of Irish cattle i : your Agricui- tural Ministry having already as regards, Irish cattle, the powers for this purpose which it is now sought to stereotype from departmental orders
Into statutory form by means of the Bills,
I refrain from going into details. My object is to- bring to your attention the larger and graver aspects which I have indicated above,.
I would ask you to give it your, most earnest attention.
Yours very truly,,.
(Signed) W..T. COSGRAVE..
The Right Hon. A. Bonar Lew, .P.C ,, M.P*
PrIme kini s t er,
10 i Downing Street.
London, B.W *
S C liE T,
0 A3 H U T 71 (22).
Meeting: of the Cabinet tt* be held at 10, Downing
Street, S.V7.1., on Tuesday, December 19th.
1922, at 12 Noon,
ADDITIONAL ITEM FOR AGENDA,
Lord Ourson's telegram from Lausanne (No.125) dated 16th, December, 192S, and the Prime
Minister r s Reply.
Both circulated herewith. (CP.4369).
(Sgd.) M.P.A. HANICEY. vVhitehall Gardens,
(This Document is the Property of His Britannic
* Majesty' s Government.T" hid
- S E C R E T
(JA3INET 71 (82) .
Meeting of the Cabinet to. be held at 10,
Downing Street,, S.W.1, on TUESDAY,
DECEMBER 19th, 1922, at 12 NOON. '
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A G E N D ,A.
1. NATIONAL EXPENDITURF.
Report of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's
Committee (0 ,P.-4270) - already circulated.
Memorandum by-the-Chancellor of the Exchequer
(CP.-4360) - already circulated.
2. REPORT 0F THE UNEMPLOYMENT COMMITTEE.
( C P . - 4364) - to he circulated.
3.
RECRUITMENT OF THE INDIAN.CIVIL SERVICE.
CP.-4328 - already circulated.
0.P.-4359 - already circulated.
4 . INDIAN CRIMINAL LEGISLATION.
Memorandum by the Secretary of State for
India (CP.-4320) - already circulated.
.. .. ( C- .P,-4363) - herewith.
Memorandum by the Secretary of State for the Colonies (CP.-4346) - already circulated.
5. RATING REFORM.
Memorandum by the Minister of Agriculture
(CF.-4329-) - already circulated.
Memorandum by the Chancellor of the r xcheq\\e\
(C.p.-4338) - already circulated...
Memorandum by the Minister of Health (CP.-4342)
- already circulated.
(Sgd.) M.P.A.. HA NILE Y
-Secretary v
2,'Whitehall Gardens, S.W.1,
December 16,.1922.
'(THIS DOC U IIENT IS. THE. P R O P E R T Y O F H I 3 . B R I T INNIC M A J E S T Y "3 e?Ciy,ERHl.ISHg);
C A B I N E T 71 (221;
SECRET
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet held at No. 10, Downing Street, S .V% on Tuesday,
19th December, 1922 at 12,0 Noon..
PRESENT:-
G.C.V
f for "Ear.
The Prime Minister fin the Chair)
The Rt.Hon,
The Viscount Cave, G.C.M.G. ,
Lord Chancellor.
The RtvHon.
W..0.3ridgeman,. M.P. ^---Secretary of State for Home Affairs.
2he Rt,Hon,
The Earl of Derby, H. G G.C.B,
0,, Secretary of State
The Rt.Hon.
I -S,Amery, M,p. ,-Eirst Lord of the Admiraltj?'.
The Rt.Hon. -
Stanley Baldwin, M.P..,
Chancellor of the Exchequer.'-.
His Grace the Duke of Devonshire',''
ICG.,. G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O.,
Secretary of State for the
Colonies,
Hie Rt,Hon.
Viscount Peel, G,B.Ea.,
Secretary of State for India,
The Rt.Hon,
Sir Philip Iloyd-Greame,
Ki B,S;, M,G., M,P., President
Of the Board of Trade, -
The Rt /Horn
Sir Arthur Griffith-Boscawen
Minister of Health, i
The Rt.Hon.
Sir Robert a.Sanders, Bart.,-
M.P., Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries,
The Rt'.'Hon.
S,PYL.WoOd, M.P , President of the Board of Education.
The Rt,Hon.--
Sir Montague Berlow, K.B.E..
II,?., Minister of Labour.
The Rt.Hon.-
Viscount Novar, - G.G.E..-.C.
3ecretary for Scotland.' t
Eieut^-rColonel Sir M,P.A.Hanfcey, - G.0-.B. ................... *. Secretary.
(Q
(This Document is the Property of. His Eritannio
Ma lest y T s G-ow af nm e rit.)
- S. E C R E T -
CABINET' 71,.
LM)
;
*-
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet, held at
10, Downing Street^ S.-W.1, on TUESDAY,- DECEMBER
19th,- 1922, at 12 Noon.
THE TURKISH
PEACE CON-
PERENCE.
(Previous
' Re fere no e'
Cabinet 67,
(22), Con olusion 1 ) .
1. The Cabinet agreed
(a) To take note of and approve- the Prime
Minister 1 s telegram of December 17,
1922, to Lord Cufzon (Foreign Office telegram No. 87 to Lausanne) w a m l y approving a programme of future proce dure at the Lausanne Conference subnit ted by Lord Curzon in his telegram of
December 16, No. 125 (Paper C.P.*-4369) :
(b) That, In order to obviate possible dif flenity o
Dominions and India and their agreement to ratification later on, the Foreign
Office, should ask Lord Curzon, if possible;, to send home an outline of the preliminary Treaty of Peace with
Turkey and any separate instrument In regard to the Straits in a form which could be communicated to the Dominions and India by telegraph.
NATIONAL
EXPEiroiTlTRB
Zj^Jkftnr consideration of the Report of the late
Chancellor of the Exchequer' s Cabinet Committee on Natioi
Expenditure (Civil Departments) (Paper CP.-4270) and a
(Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 34
(22), Con clusien 5.
Memorandum thereon by the Chancellor of the Exchequer
(Paper CP.-4350), the Cabinet agreed
V s
(a) To approve generally the outstanding recoro mendati ons in tlie Report of Sir Robert
R o m e ' a Corimittee (Paper CP.-4370) as
^ fixing the maximum, expenditure to be incurred by Departments:
1
(b) To take note that, subject to a small point now under discussion between the
Treasury and ibs Ministry of Pensions, agreement had been reached in regard to the representations made against the adoption of the Report by the Board of
Agriculture (Papers CP.-4289 and C.P.
4317), by the Ministry of Pensions (Paper
CP,-4371) and b y the Ministry of Labour
(Papers CP.-4288, 0.P.-4288-&, and C P .
4566):
(c) That the general approval recorded in (a) should not debar Departments from discuss ing with the Treasury questions of detail arising under the various groups of sub jects dealt with in the Report, provided that the figures contained in the Report
- should be treated as a maximum within which.
Departments are to work. Among the questions mentioned in regard to which the Cabinet ware warned that details might, in certain eircum stances, have to be raised, were:-
Education; Housing (in the event of the adoption of a State-aided scheme); Oversea
Settlement; " :
'-^d) That a Cabinet Committee, composed as followsf-
Th? Chancellor of the Exchequer,
The President of : the PoarH of Trade,
The Minister of Education,'
The Financial Secretary of the Treasury
*' (if the Chancellor'of the Exchequer was not available),
The. Attorney-Central, should meet to examine the Economy (Missel lansous Provisions) Bill in the light of the criticisms passed on the Bill in the last Session of the late Parliament, and to decide wheth. sr any modifications should be road3 in the Bill before it is introduced:
(e) To take note that opposition must he anticipated from the repres-entatives of the ex*-Servio-e men in Parliament to the reduction from £4,691,500 to
£3,000,000 of the sura to he provided in Estimates for 1923-24 for Industrial
Training.
: Q :
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UNEMPLOYMENT, 3, The Cabinet approved the recommendations contained in the Report of.the Cabinet Committee on Unemployment
(Previous (Paper 0.P.-4364), namely,-
Reference: .
Cabinet 68 That the Minister of Transport be author
(22), Cohclu- ised to proceed with the cons,traction of sion 3 (q) ',) two new arterial roads . Pur fleet-Tilbury and the, Sidcup by-pass road)," — subject,,), however, tg-the proviso that the
Treasury should not. as proposed by the
Committee, contribute up, to, 25 per cent, of the cost, but that their share should be raised by anticipation by the Road Board, to whom the Treasury should grant the neces sary authority for the purpose.
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The Cabinet agreed —
(a) To approve in principle that a Bill should be introduced early in the co&ilttg
Session to amend ths Transport Act by extending the power of the Minister of
Transport to sanction schemes' up to
£500,000 in place of the £100,000 pro vide d in the Act:
(b) That the above Bill should be referred to the Home Affairs Committee for exam ination in the usual way, but with a note of general Cabinet approval:
(c) That the Ministry of Transport should be ashed to keep the Unemployment Committee informed as to the progress made by
Railway Companies both in electrification and other capital schemes and in the anticipation of general orders.
RATING . 5. On consideration of Memoranda by the Minister of
REFORM,
Agriculture (Paper CP.-4329), the Chancellor of the
. Exchequer (Paper CP.-4338) and the. Minister of Health
(Previous
Reference: (Paper CP.-4342) , the Cabinet agreed -
Cabinet 22
(2.1) Conclu-- That the question of Rating Reform sion 5. and' ' -(including the rating of machinery)
Appendix XII,.) . ' should be examined -by a Cabinet. Corn mi t tee composed as follows:-
The Minister of Health (Chairman),
The Minister of Agriculture,
- The Minister of Education,
The Secretary for Scotland,
The Solicitor-General,
The Financial Secretary to the Treasury.
The above inquiry to bo conducted on the understanding that no money would be
' available during the financial year
1923-2^ to provide any additional
Government grant-in-a 1 d to local rates.
RECRUITMENT 6. After hearing from the Secretary of State for India
OP THE INDIAN
CIVIL SERVICE, a statement in amplification of the Memoranda circulated
the subject (Papers CP,-4528, 0.P.-4359), the Cabinet
Commission, agreed to give their support .to the recommendation of the
Secretary of State for India that a Royal Commission on the Services in India should, subjsot .fccu.tho agreement of the O-over-nmont of --India, be appointed with the following
Terms of Reference
"Having regard to the necessity of maintaining a standard of administration in conformity with the responsibilities of the Crown for the Government of India, and to the declared
- policy of Parliament in respect of the admis sion of Indians to every branch of the administration, to enquire into the organisa tion of the superior administrative services in India, with reference.to the functions they should exercise, the general conditions of service, financial and otherwise,, under which, they can best perform those functions., and methods of ensuring satisfactory recruit ment of Europeans and Indians respectively; and to make recommendations."
r
INDIAN CIVIL 7. After discussion of the proposals of the Secretary
LEGISLATION. of State for India on the subject of Indian -Criminal
Legislation (Papers CP,-4320, 0.P.-4328 and CP.-4363), as well as of the points of view presented by the Sec retar of State for the Colonies (Paper 0.P.-4346) and the War
Office (Papers CP,-4352 and C.P.^4370), the Cabinet agreed —
(a) Peat the proposal of the. Government of
India as to the definition of "European
British subjects" cannot be accepted:
(b) That a Committee, composed-as follows —
The Lord Chancellorj
The Sac re tary of Stats for the Colonies,
.The Secretary of State for War,
The First Lord of the Admiralty, should examine the question with the least possible delay, in concert with the Secretary of State for India. In the event of the
Committee coming to unanimous conelusions the Secretary of State for India should act on them at once, without referring again' to the Cabinet. In the contrary event, the
; question should" be -referred bach to the
:-... Cabinet With a view to a vary early meeting.
E M P I R E
JTOOTTON
' G R O W I N G .
(Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 76
( S O ) Oon clusion 4 ) ,
8, The Cabinet took note of and approved the action of the President of the Board of Trade in assuring the
Adminlstrativs Council of the Empire Cotton-Crowing
Corporation that Government support and full facilities would be given during the forthcoming Session of Parliament for a Private Bill to make compulsory on cotton spinners the levy of contributions towards the funds of the
Association (Paper C.P.-4336),
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IRELAND. 9. The Prims Minister corrmnicated to the Cabinet a
The Connaxight iattsr from the President of the Irish Free Stata vO Rangers.
(Anpendix) raising in connection with the Aranesty Bill
K the question of the Connaughi Rangers and other prisoners,
(Previous
Reference: together with a provisional reply (Appendix).
Cabinet IS
(s*i) Con- With a visw to discussion of the question at the elusion 7 ) . next meeting of the Cabinet, the Secretary v;as instructed to forward to the Home Secretary the particulars furnished by Mr Cosgrava of the various prisoners other than the mutineers of tha Conhaught Rangers, in order that the circumstances might be examined and reported on by the
Home Office.
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\ CABINET 10, It' was arranged that,, unless an emergency meat ins
BUSINESS. , . is - required, the next meeting of the. Cabinet should take
"-' ' -'''', . .
1
. . . . . .. place between Christmas and New Year's Day.
2, VTaitehall Gardens, S.W.1,
December 19, 1922.
APPENDIX
SAOBSTAT EIR3&HN
(Irish Free State).
BAILS ATEA CLIATB
(Dublin)
,16th, December, 1922.
The Right Hon. A. Bonar Law,
Prime Minister,
10 Downing Street,
I o n d o n.
Dear Prime Minister,
As you are doubtless, aware, the immediate legislation which we hope to get through Parliament , includes an Amnesty Bill to give legsp effect (so far as that may now be necessary) to the undertaking given by the.late General Collins with regard to
British Military, engaged in Ireland during the period -r. prior to the Truce,
*Ve had hoped that this Bill would be regarded as non-contentious, but we find' that the case of the'
Gonnaught Rangers and other prisoners - whose names are given on enclosed schedule^- now held by your Government, is occupying the public mind very considerably and
:
also the minds of many members of .our Parliament. vire have reason to believe that the question of these prisoners will be raised when the -amnesty Bill is brought forward, and that it will be urged that while wo propose complete amnesty for British Military in Ireland, the British Government, by its continued detention of the prisoners referred to above, have granted only a partial amnesty to our nationals.
The passage of the Bill will be considerably facilitated and much undesirable comment avoided If your Government could find it possible to permit the immediate release of these prisoners.
V7e would, therefore, earnestly request you to give this matter your consideration.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Gosgrave.
Not reproduced.
18th December 1982.
Dear Mr. Cosgr ave ,
I have your letter of the 16th and will see that the subject about which you write receives, as quickly as possible, the attention of the Government. we have a Cabinet to-morrow, but unfortunate!^" the Secretary for War has been abroad and is only returning to-uight, and in any case I do not think ittfould be possible to ask fer a deoision on a question so difficult and Important without more time.
I am afraid, therefore, that ft will not be possible for
- me to give you a definite reply until next week.. This I much regret.
Yours very truly,
(Sgd) A .B0NAR 2UW.
$BIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OP HIS BRITA1JRIC . Hi JESTY 1 S mTmW&ZlW',
SECRET
C A B I N E T 72(22)
C O N C L U S I O N S of a Meeting of the Cabinet held at No,, 10, Downing Street, SaU.
0
on Friday,
29th December, 1922 fro 3.30 p,m.
She Most Hcn for W a n r flhe Prime Minister fin the Chair) the Marquess of Salisbury,
ICG.- G, C .V,0,i , C.B.. ., Loid
President of the Council,
The Rt,,Hon. m^CBridgeman.. M P , Secretary of State for Home Affairs,.
The Rt,Eon the Earl of Derby, I C C , G,C,B. ,
S.C.Y
f
3
0, Secretary of State
The RtoHon.
Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame, EhB,E. ,
M,C., M.P., President of the
Board of Trade,
The Rt,Hon n
Viscount Cave, &.C.M,6, lord Chancellor.
His C-race -ohe Duke of Devonshire
K,a.
, G. Co-M .fr, , G,C .V
Secretary of State for the '
Colonies.
The R-LHon,
Sir Arthur Griffitk-Boscawen
Minist er of Heal th ,.
,0,,
The Rt,Hon.
Yiacount Peel, G,B.E.,
Secretary of State for India
The Rt,Hon.
E..E, L..V ood.,. Li,P.;, President of the Board of Education,
The Rt,Kon,
Sir Robert Ac Sanders. Bart.,
M. P. , - Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries. '
The Ft,Hen,
- Vise our: he. .r. C-,C,M,G..,
Secretary for Scotland, he. following were also, present
Ronald McNeill, Esq... M,P,,
Pa rl iame nta ry Und e r- Se c r et a ry.
Foreign Office,
- (For Item 1)
Sir John Bradbury, G.C.B
,
?
Principal British Representative,
Reparation Commission.
- (For Item 1)
C
Sir Eyre A, d o m e , G,G-M,G. , ,
K,.C.B. , Permanent Under
Secretary, Foreien Office?
(For Item 1) ,,,,,, i: , ;i %
The Rt.Hon, . !
Sir John Anderson, E,ChB.
Permanent Under Secretary,
Home Cffice. (For Item 4 ).''
Lieut,-Colonel Sir Maurice Eankey, G.C.B Secretary
(This Document. Is -the'. Property of His Britannic
Ma j es ty' g Government .)
OA BI WET 72 (22) *
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet
DECEMBER 89, 1982, at 3-3 3 p.m. .
4
held at 10, Downing Street, S.W.1, on FRIDAY,
, The Cabinet agreed .—
(a) To approve the general principles of the
. ."Plan for General Settlement of Rep&ra tion and European Inter-allied Debts" laid before them by the Prime Minister
(Paper C.P.-4376), leaving discretion to the Prime Minister and. the President of the Board of Trade to make such altera tions in detail as they might deem neoes sary in the course of the negotiations at the forthcoming meeting in Paris on the subject of Reparations by Germany:
(b) That, from the point Of view of the presentation of the plan to the French
Government, it would be useful to intro duce into the above plan. some, words to show that France would obtain from the proceeds of the loan to be raised during the proposed moratorium, some advantage to meet a part of the expenditure incurred on the reconstruction Of the devastated areas provided that this could be effected without serious detriment to ourselves and without antagonising Belgium and Italy. The qu.es tion of introducing a. clause to this effect was left to the Prime Minister and the
President of the Board of Trade in consult ation with Sir John Bradbury and Mr Nierceyer, of the Treasury;
(c) That if in the course of the negotiations the Prime Minister thought it advisable, he should be at liberty, in order to accentuate the generosity of tie scheme from a public point of view, to table the proposals with the omission of the frag$afcfcipn that France should transfer to Great Britain the first Series German Bonds to be received by France in -respect of the Belgian War Debt:
(d) That the plan should not immediately he presented to the French Government, hut that full discretion should be left to the Prime Minister and President of the
Board of Trade as to the right moment for its presentation:
(e) That,, in the event of insistence by the
French Government on "Gages produotives the Prime Minister and President of ;the
Board of Trade should be at liberty to agree to proposals, which were not serious ly mischievous-, even though they were not likely to prove productive. It was con* sidered preferable in this event that the enforcement of such pledges should be left to the French:
(f) In the event of a fixed determination on the part of the French Government to take independent coercive action against Germany, and a refusal to discuss any reasonable proposals, the Cabinet agreed with the course proposed by the Priire Minister-, namely, that he should state that large questions were raised, such as the future participation of the British Government in the Conference of Ambassadors and in the Reparation Commission, and the retention of a British garrison on the
Rhine - cpastions on which it would be necessary for'him to consult the Cabinet-.
THE TURKISP S, The Cabinet took note, with satisfaction, that
PEACE CCN-
FERBKfCE. the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs had arranged to leave Lausanne in order to meet the Prime Minister at
Previous Paris on Monday next, January 1, 1923.
Reference:
Cabinet 71
(22), Con clusion 1,) ..
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THE SITUATION 3. The attention of the Cabinet, was drawn to the with-
AT C0NS1AN-
TIN0P1E. drawal from Constantinople to Malta, - for - Chr is tmas , of the Naval Ocm-mai der-in-Chief in the Mediterranean with a
(Previous large part of the Fleet, Notwithstanding the difficult
Reference:
Cabinet 69 situation at Lausanne and the serious results which might
(22), Ccn clusion 5.) follow at Constantinople on a rupture of the Peace pegotia^ tions, this step had apparently been taken without consultation with the Foreign Office and War Office.
In the absence of the First Lord of the Admiralty the question was not discussed, but the Prime Minister under took to communicate with the First Lord of the Admiralty on the subject.
IRELAND -
The Connaught
Rangers.
(Previous
Reference:
Cabinet 71
(22) Con elusion 9.)
4. The Cabinet agreed —
(a) That the Secret;
Colonies should send to the President of the Irish Free State an emissary who should be authorised to intimate that,, in the opinion of the Prime Minister, the Cabinet would be prepared to advise the King that the mutineers of the
Connaught Rangers should be given a free pardon? but that they were prepared to make this great concession with great reluctance and only if it would, n without further concession, enable the
Irish Government to secure the passage of the Amnesty Bill through Parliament,
The emissary should add that the Cabinet could not make the same concession in regard to.Mr Joseph Dowling, who had been convicted of voluntarily serving and aiding the enemy and persuading British soldiers to do the same. If Mr Cougrave could not undertake that the passage of the Amnesty Bill would be secured without the release of Mr Dowling, the emissary should make it d e a r that the whole subject would come up again for consideration:
(b) That, in the event of Mr Cosgrave being unable to undertake the passage of the
Amnesty Bill without the delays permitted by the Irish Constitution unless Mr Dowling was also released, the whole question should be re-examined by the Cabinet . Should the
Cabinet discuss this question while the
Prime Minister was still absent in Paris, they were asked to bear in. mind the strong view of the Prime Minister that in the last resort Mr Dowling should also be released, rather than run the risk of losing the
Amnesty Bl .1 or of holding it up for a period in circumstances calculated to give rise to further disturbances in
Ireland:
That, in the event of the release of the routineers of the Connaught Rangers, it should be made clear in any announcement on the subject that the Xing was taking this action on the advice of his Ministers and not of the Army Council.
o
TEE REPORT OE
THE HONOURS
COMMISSION.
5. TTie Cabinet agreed —
' ' '
(a) To "adopt the Report of the Honours Commis sion of which two Ministers in the present
Government had been'members:
(Previous ,
Reference:
Cabinet 39
(22), Con-
(b) That the list of departmental Honours
should be issued on January 1st.,, and
that an'announcement should be made at elusion 5.)
the same time that the list of political
Honours would be reserved pending its examination by the Committee to be set up under the recommendations of the Commis sion:
(a-) That the Prime Minister should invite the following to become members of the .above
; Committee:-
The Right Hon. the Lord Dunedin, K.C,V.O.,
The Right Hon.. the Lord Mildmay^
The Right Hon. Sir Evylyn Cecil, G.B.E.,M.:
CABINET 6. The Prime Minister invited the Lord Chancellor to
PROCEDURE. act for him in the. event of a Cabinet Meeting being required during his absence in Paris.
NOTE o ' Mr RvB, Howorth will act as
Secretary of the Cabinet, and
Sir John Chancellor as Secretary of the Committee of Imperial
Defence during Sir Maurice
Kankey
T s absence with the Prime
Minister. .
8, Whitehall Gardens, S , 1,
December 29, 1022.
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