RELATION BETWEEN ARMED FORCES AND CIVIL AUTHORITY A POSTATOMIC ATTACK SITUATION IN 6 May 1954 j.687 CO NTENTS Page INTRODUCTION--Colonel L. R. Bartlett, Member of the Faculty, Jr., USAF, ICAF ............. SPEAKER--Dr. Charles Fairman, Nagel Professor of Constitutional Law, Washington University, St. L o u i s , Missouri ...................................... GENERAL DISCUSSION .................................... 26 NOTICE: This is a copy of material presented to the resident students at the Industrial College of the A r m e d Forces. It is furnished for official use only in connection with studies n o w being p e r f o r m e d by the user. It is not for general publication. It m a y not be released to other persons, quoted or extracted for publication or otherwise copied or distributed without specific p e r m i s s i o n f r o m the author and the C o m m a n d a n t , I C A F , in each case. Publication INDUSTRIAL COLLEGE N o . L 5 4 - 128 OF THE ARMED Washington, D. C. FORCES Dr. Charles Fairman, Nagel Professor ofConstitutional Law, Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri, was born in Alton, Illinois, 27 July 1897. H e received the following degrees: A.B., University of Illinois, 1918 and M. A., 1920; Ph.D., Harvard, 1926; graduate work, University of Paris, 1925-26; L L . B . , University of London, 1934; S. J. D., Harvard L a w School, 1938. H e has taught at P o m o n a College, Harvard University, Williams College, Stanford University, and since 1953 has been in his present position. Dr. F a i r m a n served during W o r l d W a r s I and II and w a s active in the Reserve Corps between the wars. In this service he rose f r o m the ranks through all grades to Colonel. His World W a r II service was in the Judge Advocate General's Office, 1943-44, and as Chief International L a w Division, E T O , 1944-45. Other positions held by h i m are: consultant, C o m mission on Organization of Executive Branch of the Government, 1948, consultant %o Provost Marshal General's Office, 1950; and chairman, C o m m i t t e e on the L a w of Occupied Areas in the A m e r i c a n Bar Association's Section of International and Comparative Law. H e was admitted to the bar in the District of Columbia and in Missouri, and is a m e m b e r of the Board of Editors of the A m e r i c a n Journal of International L a w and Social Science Research Council. H e is author of "The L a w of Martial Rule, " 1930, 2d ed. 1943; "Mr. Justice Miller and the S u p r e m e Court, 1862-1890, " 1939; " A m e r i c a n Constitutional Decisions, " 1948, rev. ed. 1950; and m a n y articles on judicial biography and on constitutional and international law including: " T h e S u p r e m e Court on Military Jurisdiction: Martial Rule in Hawaii, and the Yamashita Case, " 59 Harvard L a w Review 833-82, July 1946; " S o m e Observations on Military Occupation, " 32 Minn. L a w Review 319-48, M a r c h 1948; and " S o m e N e w P r o b l e m s of the Constitution Following the Flag," i Stanford L a w Review 587-645, June 1949, This is his first lecture at the Industrial College. 1689 RELATION BETWEEN ARMED FORCES AND CIVIL AUTHORITY IN A POSTATOMIC ATTACK SITUATION 6 M a y 1954 COLONEL• B A R T L E T T : General Greeley, visitors, gentlemen: W h e n t h e M o b i l i z a t i o n B r a n c h d e v i s e d t h e f i n a l p r o b l e m on w h i c h y o u a r e w o r k i n g , we c o n s i d e r e d the p o s s i b i l i t y that one or m o r e c o m m i t t e e s w o u l d v i s u a l i z e a c o n d i t i o n of r i o t , p i l l a g e , a n d m a s s p a n i c a f t e r t h e b o m b s f e l l . It s e e m e d p o s s i b l e t h a t w i t h o u t a n y g u i d a n c e y o u r p r o p o s e d s o l u t i o n m i g h t b e to d e c l a r e m a r t i a l l a w a n d go o n to o t h e r problems. C o n s e q u e n t l y , w e s o u g h t a l e c t u r e r on t h i s t o p i c . T h r o u g h t h e J u d g e A d v o c a t e G e n e r a l ( J A G ) of t h e A r m y a n d t h e J A G S c h o o l a t C h a r l o t t e s v i l l e , V i r g i n i a , w e s e c u r e d t h e n a m e of today's speaker. As you have noted from his biography he is Nagel P r o f e s s o r of C o n s t i t u t i o n a l L a w a t W a s h i n g t o n U n i v e r s i t y i n St. L o u i s . H o w e v e r , h e h a s b e e n e n g a g e d f o r s e v e r a l y e a r s o n a s t u d y of a l l a s p e c t s of m a r t i a l l a w . " W h o ' s Wh o i n A m e r i c a " ' n e e d s 27 l i n e s to recite all his accomplishments and we were delighted when he accepted today' s assignment. P r o f e s s o r F a i r m a n , it i s a p l e a s u r e to p r e s e n t y o u to t h e I n d u s t r i a l C o l l e g e of t h e A r m e d F o r c e s . DR. F A I R M A N : gentlemen: Thank you, Colonel Bartlett. General Greeley, I h a v e w r i t t e n o u t w h a t I a m g o i n g to s a y to y o u i n 60 m i n u t e s b e c a u s e t h i s i s a t h o r n y s u b j e c t . If o n e s p e a k s e x t e m p o r a n e o u s l y , there is considerable danger of misstating one's thought or inadverte n t l y g i v i n g u n d u e e m p h a s i s to o n e a s p e c t a n d o v e r l o o k i n g s o m e t h i n g else. I do n o t s u p p o s e %hat t h e o u t c o m e of a n y b a t t l e w i l l t u r n on t h e m a t t e r I a m to d i s c u s s w i t h y o u t o d a y . I do a p p r e h e n d t h a t h o w w e win and, indeed, whether we win, a war would be profoundly influenced by our skill--or ineptitude--in civil-military relationships in the area a f f e c t e d b y m i l i t a r y o p e r a t i o n s . I do b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s i s a m a t t e r w h e r e w e a r e i n d e s p e r a t e n e e d of a s o u n d b a s i c p h i l o s o p h y , a n d of t h e a s s u r a n c e t h a t c o m e s f r o m p r a c t i c e u n d e r a v a r i e t y of s i m u l a t e d s i t u a t i o n s . T h i s i s n o t a m a t t e r t h a t c a n s a f e l y b e l e f t to t h e i m p r o v i s a t i o n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : • 1690 of the moment. A few days of bungling would get us off to a Very bad start. uncertainty, after an attack, We are a people inexperienced in sustaining a war within the body of the country. "Hardly a man is now alive" who remembers the four years prior to Appomattox. We have accumulated experience in the forging of armed forces at home while friends and eventual allies engaged the enemy far from our shores. We have learned a good deal about converting our economy to the ends of war. We have recently attained some proficiency in the conduct of civil affairs in foreign places. But how the Armed Forces and the agencies of civil government would get along together in the event that enemy action struck home--that is a matter of great importance on which we are woefully unprepared. Think~ for a moment, of actual situations. In the event of e n e m y action within domestic territory, disorganized civilians and organized evacuations would crowd the highways. The A r m e d Forces would be using the highways too. H o w should these m o v e m e n t s be coordinated and controlled? It is no s o l u t i o n s i m p l y to s a y , shove the c i v i l i a n s into the ditch and l e t the t r o o p s go by. We m u s t w o r k out s o m e t h i n g m u c h b e t t e r t h a n that. B l a c k o u t s and d i m o u t s would be i m p o s e d . T e l e c o m m u n i c a t i o n s m u s t be c o n t r o l l e d . Sabotage m u s t be w a t c h e d f o r and p r e v e n t e d . How would a l l t h e s e l o c a l i n c i d e n t s of w a r be p o l i c e d - - b y s o l d i e r s , s c u r r y i n g a l l o v e r the p l a c e ? - - o r by the civiliar, b l o c k w a r d e n s ? How s h o u l d an a p p a r e n t o f f e n d e r be d e a l t w i t h - - b y p e t t y p r o v o s t c o u r t s s i t t i n g in e v e r y t o w n ? - - b y an i n d i c t m e n t in one of the 80-odd F e d e r a l d i s t r i c t c o u r t s ? How ? L o c a l s u p p l i e s m u s t be c o n s e r v e d and r a t i o n e d ; f e e d i n g c e n t e r s and w e l f a r e s e r v i c e s m u s t be p r o v i d e d . G a s o l i n e is the k e y to m o v e m e n t ; but who is to k e e p t h e k e y ? Suppose the military authority orders the evacuation of an area. W h o will see to it that the inhabitants get off ? W h o will supply the transport ? W h o will conduct the m o v e m e n t , provide food and shelter, administer the relocation? Evidently combat forces could not perform all these functions--yet the functions m u s t be performed. There must be working arrangements between the A r m e d Forces and the local civil authorities. These working arrangements m u s t be flexible, responsive to the situation as it presents itself--like the quick interaction of trained players on a basketball team. 169 Plant security, I need hardly r e m i n d the Industrial College, would be a m a j o r concern in w a r production. It is a responsibility definitely fixed upon m a n a g e m e n t . But the civil authorities and the military authorities are vitally concerned in seeing to it that that responsibility is discharged. A g a i n , t h e r e m a y b e p r e s e n t i n t h e c o u n t r y p e o p l e who a r e r e a s o n a b l y s u s p e c t e d of a d i s p o s i t i o n to c o m m i t a c t s i n a i d of t h e e n e m y . I s a y " r e a s o n a b l y s u s p e c t e d , " f o r I r a i s e t h e p r o b l e m of " p r e v e n t i v e " m e a s u r e s , b e f o r e any "act" has b e e n c o m m i t t e d . E n e m y a l i e n s p r o d u c e no " m a j o r " p r o b l e m ; c e r t a i n l y t h e y m a y b e t a k e n into safe k e e p i n g , although they m u s t be given r e a s o n a b l e c a r e . B u t t h e d e t e n t i o n of A m e r i c a n c i t i z e n s m e r e l y b e c a u s e t h e y a r e " r e a s o n a b l y s u s p e c t e d " of h o s t i l e p u r p o s e s - - t h a t b r i s t l e s w i t h d i f f i c u l t i e s of c o n s t i t u t i o n a l law, of p o l i c y , of p r a c t i c a l a d m i n i s t r a t i o n . Such a c t i o n i s , I s h a l l p o i n t out, n o t a r e s p o n s i b i l i t y of t h e A r m e d F o r c e s . We m a y b e t h a n k f u l t h a t i t i s n o t , s i n c e i t i s a t o u c h y a n d u n w e l c o m e b u s i n e s s f o r w h i c h m e n i n u n i f o r m a r e i l l - s u i t e d . B u t it i s a m a t t e r in which the A r m e d F o r c e s have a p r o p e r i n t e r e s t . H e r e then is a n o t h e r field w h e r e a sound r e l a t i o n s h i p b e t w e e n civil a u t h o r i t i e s and t h e f i g h t i n g f o r c e s i s v i t a l to t h e n a t i o n a l d e f e n s e . I m i g h t go on f i r i n g t h e s e q u e s t i o n s . T h e y a r e n o v e l , d i f f i c u l t , and in the h i g h e s t d e g r e e i m p o r t a n t . They would a r i s e the m o m e n t o p e r a t i o n s b e g a n . T h e i r s o l u t i o n r e q u i r e s c a r e f u l a n a l y s i s of d u t i e s a n d c a p a c i t i e s - - a s o u n d p h i l o s o p h y of f u n c t i o n s a n d w o r k i n g relationships. Thinking should come before action--we should force o u r s e l v e s to t h i n k t h i n g s out, a n d t h e n t e s t , a n d r e v i s e a n d t e s t a g a i n and again, b e f o r e any e m e r g e n c y is upon us. L e t us s t a r t with the l a r g e s t s t r a n d in this t a n g l e d m a s s - ~ C i v i l D e f e n s e . D u r i n g W o r l d W a r II t h e r e w a s , you w i l l r e c a l l , a n O f f i c e of C i v i l i a n D e f e n s e , w h i c h s p o n s o r e d a v a r i e t y of n a t i o n a l p r o g r a m s - air-raid drills, victory gardens, bond drives, and other extraneous a c t i v i t i e s . I n 1948 t h e W a r D e p a r t m e n t C i v i l D e f e n s e B o a r d - - - o f w h i c h I s h a l l s p e a k i n a m o m e n t - - e x p r e s s e d t h i s c o n c l u s i o n : "It i s a p p a r e n t , i n r e t r o s p e c t , t h a t t h e c i v i l d e f e n s e o r g a n i z a t i o n , i n s p i t e of t h e n o t e w o r t h y p a t r i o t i c r e s p o n s e of t h e c i v i l i a n v o l u n t e e r s , w a s i n a d e q u a t e to c o p e w i t h a h e a v y a t t a c k . " 1 / 1/ A Study of C i v i l D e f e n s e . R e p o r t of t h e W a r D e p a r t m e n t C i v i l D e f e n s e B o a r d (the B u l l B o a r d ) , r e l e a s e d b y t h e O f f i c e of t h e S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e on 15 F e b 1948, p. 8. 1692 The W a r D e p a r t m e n t C i v i l D e f e n s e B o a r d was s e t up by a m e m o r a n d u m of 25 N o v e m b e r 1946, to f o r m u l a t e the D e p a r t m e n t ' s v i e w s and p o l i c i e s a s to c i v i l d e f e n s e . Its p r e s i d e n t was G e n e r a l H a r o l d R. B u l l - - l a t e r C o m m a n d a n t of the N a t i o n a l W a r C o l l e g e . The r e p o r t was r e l e a s e d by Mr. F o r r e s t a l , S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e , on 15 F e b r u a r y 1948. I quote a few p a s s a g e s m a t e r i a l to o u r p r e s e n t in-. quiry. " T h e m a j o r c i v i l d e f e n s e p r o b l e m s a r e not a p p r o p r i a t e l y m i l i t a r y r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s . Such p r o b l e m s a r e C i v i l i a n in n a t u r e and s h o u l d be s o l v e d by c i v i l i a n o r g a n i z a t i o n . " (p. 20) " T h e s t a t e g o v e r n m e n t m u s t a c c e p t the r e s p o n s i b i l i t y of c i v i l d e f e n s e f o r i t s p e o p l e and c o m m u n i t i e s . . . . Federal c i v i l d e f e n s e a g e n c i e s a d v i s e , a s s i s t and s e c u r e n e c e s s a r y u n i f o r m i t y , and m u s t h a v e the p o w e r to d i r e c t s t a t e a c t i o n when t h e e m e r g e n c y is i n t e r s t a t e o r v i t a l l y a f f e c t s F e d e r a l i n t e r e s t s . (p. 12) T h e r e m u s t be " m a x i m u m r e s p o n s i b i l i t y on c i v i l i a n o r g a n i z a t i o n s f r o m the F e d e r a l to l o c a l l e v e l s c o n s i s t e n t with n e c e s s a r y c o o r d i n a t i o n with the a r m e d f o r c e s . !' The A r m e d F o r c e s m u s t be f r e e " f o r t h e i r p r i m a r y m i s s i o n of o p e r a t i o n s a g a i n s t the e n e m y . " (p..16) S c a r c e l y a f o r t n i g h t t h e r e a f t e r , by d i r e c t i v e of 27 M a r c h 1948, M r . F o r r e s t a l s e t up the Office o f C i v i l D e f e n s e P l a n n i n g - - a n o f f i c e to p l a n a s y s t e m . It was a b l y d i r e c t e d by the late R u s s e l J. Hopley, an e x e c u t i v e of the B e l l T e l e p h o n e s y s t e m . The e x e c u t i v e a s s i s t a n t was C o l o n e l B a r n e t W. B e e r s , who had w o r k e d f o r the B u l l B o a r d , has ever since been involved in this business, and is today Assistaaut for Civil Defense in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. F r o m the elaborate report of i October 1948, I quote one remark: "It would be m o s t d i s a s t r o u s and c o n f u s i n g d u r i n g a n e m e r g e n c y to find both the A r m y and the C i v i l D e f e n s e o r g a n i z a t i o n d e p e n d i n g upon the s a m e r o u t e s of c o m m u n i c a t i o n , the s a m e s u p p l y l i n e s o r the s a m e t r a n s p o r t a t i o n f a c i l i t i e s . T h i s t a c t i c a l c o o r d i n a t i o n m u s t be c a r r i e d out in the f i e l d and with A r m y H e a d q u a r t e r s . " (p. 177) The H o p l e y R e p o r t a d v i s e d t h a t , on b a l a n c e , it s e e m e d b e t t e r t o put the Office of C i v i l D e f e n s e u n d e r the S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e , on t h e :i693 s a m e line with A r m y , Navy, and Air Force, rather than to m a k e it a n independent agency. But, as will be seen in a m o m e n t , the Executive and the Congress w e r e in accord in rejecting that suggestion. M o v i n g r a p i d l y o v e r t h e g r o u n d , 2 / I d r a w y o u r a t t e n t i o n to N S R B D o c u m e n t 128, " U n i t e d S t a t e s Cqvil D e f e n s e , " t r a n s m i t t e d to t h e P r e s i d e n t b y M r . S y m i n g t o n , t h e n C h a i r m a n of t h e N a t i o n a l S e c u r i t y R e s o u r c e s B o a r d , o n 8 S e p t e m b e r 1950. I t w a s , a n d r e m a i n s , the national plan for civil defense. The State and local organizations have been brought into line with this document; the State Civil Defense A c t s , i n t h e m a i n , f o l l o w t h e s u g g e s t e d M o d e l S t a t u t e on p a g e 135 of the plan. O n S e p t e m b e r 18 t h e P r e s i d e n t l a i d t h e p l a n b e f o r e C o n g r e s s . B i l l s w e r e a t o n c e i n t r o d u c e d , h e a r i n g s w e r e h e l d , a n d on 12 J a n u a r y 1951 t h e F e d e r a l C i v i l D e f e n s e A c t b e c a m e law. Y o u s h o u l d a c q u a i n t yourselves with that statute. TheFCDA, as you know, was made an i n d e p e n d e n t a g e n c y - - n o t p l a c e d u n d e r t h e r o o f of t h e D e p a r t m e n t of D e f e n s e . On t h e m a k i n g of t h i s d e c i s i o n I q u o t e f r o m t h e h e a r i n g s b e f o r e a s u b c o m m i t t e e of t h e S e n a t e A r m e d S e r v i c e s C o m m i t t e e : "Mr. C h a m b e r s (Colonel C h a m b e r s of the C o m m i t t e e Staff): Colonel Beers, was this matter--(that is, the question of putting Civil Defense in the Department of Defense)--considered by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and did they advise on the final disposition ? "Colonel Beers: Quite thoroughly. " M r . C h a m b e r s : A n d t h e J o i n t C h i e f s of Staff do a g r e e t h a t t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i o n of c i v i l d e f e n s e s h o u l d n o t b e a p a r t of t h e ,military structure ? "Colonel Beers: Yes, sir. Senato r Kefauver: W h y is it they don't want it a part of the.' military structure, Colonel Beers ? " 2/ A n enemeration of the major steps in the history of civil defense is set out i n H o u s e Report No. 3209, of 19 Dec 1950, 81st Cong., 2d sess. 5 • 1694 " C o l o n e l B e e r s : The f e e l i n g in m i l i t a r y c i z c l e s , the m i l i t a r y t h i n k i n g , e v e n b e l o w t h e l e v e l of t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e o f f i c e of t h e S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e , i s t h a t t h e y h a v e got e n o u g h to do a s it i s . . "3/ Now c o n s i d e r t h e s t a t u t e , a n d g l a n c e at t h e D e c l a r a t i o n of P o l i c y , s e c t i o n 2. "It i s . . t h e p o l i c y a n d i n t e n t of C o n g r e s s t h a t t h i s r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o r c i v i l d e f e n s e s h a l l be v e s t e d p r i m a r i l y i n t h e s e v e r a l s t a t e s and t h e i r political subdivisions. The F e d e r a l Government shall provide necessary coordination and guid,! ance . . . G l a n c e at t h e P o w e r s a n d D u t i e s of t h e A d m i n i s t r a t o r , t i o n 201: , in s e c - To p r e p a r e n a t i o n a l p l a n s a n d p r o g r a m s . 2. To s t u d y a n d d e v e l o p m e a s u r e s . 3. To c o n d u c t o r a r r a n g e t r a i n i n g p r o g r a m s . 4. To a s s i s t a n d e n c o u r a g e t h e S t a t e s to e n t e r i n t o m u t u a l aid compacts. 5. To a s s i s t a n d c o o r d i n a t e a c t i v i t i e s of t h e S t a t e s . 6. To p r o c u r e a n d d i s t r i b u t e m a t e r i a l s a n d f a c i l i t i e s . 7. To m a k e f i n a n c i a l c o n t r i b u t i o n s , a n d s o on. T h e s e a r e n o t s t r o n g p o w e r s - - t h e y f a l l f a r s h o r t of a u t h o r i t y to d i r e c t . P e r h a p s e x p e r i e n c e would s h o w t h a t they should be s t r e n g t h e n e d ; that is my own belief. We s t a r t , t h e n , w i t h a n a t i o n a l p o l i c y , e x p r e s s i n g t h e v i e w s of t h e c i v i l i a n h e a d s a n d of t h e p r o f e s s i o n a l m i l i t a r y l e a d e r s h i p of t h e E x e c u t i v e , t h e v i e w s of C o n g r e s s , a n d t h e v i e w s of t h e S t a t e G o v e r n o r s . 3/ H e a r i n g s on S. 4217 a n d S. 4219, p. 80. 6 1695 T h e a c t u a l o p e r a t i o n of C i v i l D e f e n s e i s a r e s p o n s i b i l i t y v e s t e d primarily in the States and their subdivisions. Each state has/its plan. R e c e n t l y I have b e e n e x a m i n i n g t h e m . H e r e (showing the d o c u m e n t ) is a t y p i c a l one, for O r e g o n - - a b a s i c plan, r e s t i n g upon t h e S t a t e ' s C i v i l D e f e n s e A c t a n d N S R B D o c u m e n t 128. T h e r e i s a f u n c t i o n a l o r g a n i z a t i o n i n t h e c e n t r a l o f f i c e , a n d l i n e s of c o m m a n d r u n n i n g d o w n to t h e l o c a l l e v e l . T h e r e a r e a n n e x e s - - o n s e c u r i t y a n d p o l i c e ; on f i r e s e r v i c e s ; on m e d i c a l s e r v i c e s - - r a d i o l o g i c a l monitoring, m e d i c a l e v a c u a t i o n , etc. ; on aid and w e l f a r e - - a s s e m b l y areas, - r e c e p t i o n c e n t e r s , c o n d u c t of e v a c u a t i o n s , r e l a t i o n w i t h t h e R e d C r o s s ; on e n g i n e e r i n g a n d h e a v y r e s c u e ; o n c o m m u n i c a t i o n s , o n t r a n s p o r t a t i o n , a n d .so f o r t h . T h e s e a r e loose-leaf books, for you see they need constant revision. Mutual aid, b a c k e d up by m o b i l e s u p p o r t , a r e b a s i c c o n c e p t i o n s - - j u s t a s t h e y a r e i n t h e t a c t i c a l e m p l o y m e n t of a n i n f a n t r y b a t t a l i o n . C i t y A h e l p s c i t y B if t h e l a t t e r i s h i t , a n d m o b i l e s u p p o r t c o m e s u p f r o m t h e r e a r t o t h e p o i n t w h e r e it i s m o s t n e e d e d . T h e r e i s n o w a p r e t t y h i g h l y d e v e l o p e d s y s t e m of i n t e r s t a t e c o m p a c t s , a n d e v e n c o m p a c t s r u n n i n g o v e r the b o r d e r s . Mutual support is, in some c a s e s , a o n e - w a y u n d e r t a k i n g ; t h e r e m a y be little r e c i p r o c i t y . For example, Arizona's plan is concerned very largely with how ta handle 250, 000 t o u r i s t s c a u g h t in C a l i f o r n i a , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 m i g r a t o r y w o r k e r s , a n d perhaps some panic- struck C alifornians--to route them along Arizona's f e w h i g h w a y s , to a l l o c a t e g a s o l i n e , a n d to p r o v i d e f o o d in a s t a t e m o s t of w h o s e g r o c e r i e s c o m e f r o m a f a r . D o w n at t h e g r o u n d l e v e l a r e t h e b l o c k w a r d e n s - - t h e d o u g h b o y s of Civil D e f e n s e - - s u p p o r t e d by s p e c i a l i s t s such as f i r s t - a i d t e a m s , police, rescue workers, and the like. T h e F C D A i s r e s p o n s i b l e f o r g u i d a n c e a n d c o o r d i n a t i o n of S t a t e a n d l o c a l t r a i n i n g . To t h a t e n d i t h a s p r e p a r e d - - w i t h e l a b o r a t e c o n s u l t a t i o n - - - a d m i n i s t r a t i v e g u i d e s , s u c h a s t h a t on P r i n c i p l e s of C i v i l D e f e n s e O p e r a t i o n s , a n d t h e o n e on E m e r g e n c y W e l f a r e S e r v i c e s - - a n d T e c h n i c a l M a n u a l s , s u c h a s t h a t on U t i l i z a t i o n a n d C o n t r o l of S t r e e t s a n d H i g h w a y s , a n d o n e on o r g a n i z a t i o n a n d O p e r a t i o n of C a s u a l t y Services. These are the drill and service regulations for the volunteer a r m y of C i v i l D e f e n s e . The Federal Civil Defense Administration (FCDA) maintains e i g h t r e g i o n a l o f f i c e s . T h i n k of t h e m a s f a c i l i t a t i n g a g e n c i e s , f i e l d o f f i c e s w h e r e b y t h e F C D A m o v e s c l o s e r to t h e S t a t e a n d l o c a l authorities and thus makes its assistance and coordination more 1696 r e a d i l y e f f e c t i v e . R e g i o n a l o f f i c e s a r r a n g e f o r the e f f e c t i v e u s e of F e d e r a l p e r s o n n e l and r e s o u r c e s i n a c i v i l d e f e n s e e m e r g e n c y . ~ W h i l e t h e r e g i o n a l o f f i c e t h u s a c t s a s a g o - b e t w e e n and f a c i l i t a t o r , i t i s not a r e q u i r e d c h a n n e l b e t w e e n t h e A r m e d F o r c e s a n d t h e l o c a l a u t h o r i t i e s i n the m a t t e r of t h a t i n f i n i t e v a r i e t y of d a i l y c o n t a c t s t h a t w o u l d be n e c e s s a r y i n the c o u r s e of a c t i v e o p e r a t i o n s . You k n o w , of c o u r s e , t h a t the s e v e r a l S t a t e s , w i t h v a r y i n g s u c c e s s , h a v e e n d e a v o r e d to r e c r u i t s k e l e t o n o r g a n i z a t i o n s . T h e r e are a few p e r m a n e n t e m p l o y e e s i n keY p o s i t i o n s ; r e t i r e d o f f i c e r s a r e p r o m i n e n t i n t h e s e g r o u p s . A s to the s t r e n g t h of t h e C i v i l D e f e n s e o r g a n i z a t i o n s , I h a v e o n l y i m p r e s s i o n s , a s h a v e you. P e r h a p s t h e g r e a t e s t t r o u b l e is that people, thus far, just don't get s c a r e d about a w a r and won't play at being w a r d e n s and n u r s e s . A y e a r ago, at San F r a n c i s c o , I w i t n e s s e d a d r i l l of A d m i r a l C o o k ' s o r g a n i z a t i o n f o r t h a t c i t y , a n d of the C a l i f o r n i a r e g i o n a l C i v i l D e f e n s e , a n d i t a l l l o o k e d v e r Y s u b s t a n t i a l and v e r y s e r i o u s . T h e r e w a s a c a p t a i n t h e r e f r o m the Presidio. H e r e p r e s e n t e d , h o w e v e r , not S i x t h A r m y H e a d q u a r t e r s , b u t o n l y the P r e s i d i o ' a s a p a r t of San F r a n c i s c o . The e x e r c i s e m a d e no a t t e m p t to d e v e l o p the m a t t e r o n w h i c h I a m s p e a k i n g ~ - ~ t h e d a y - t o day w o r k i n g r e l a t i o n s b e t w e e n the A r m e d F o r c e s and Civil Defense a f t e r an attack. S o m e m o n t h s ago, I a d d r e s s e d to t h e D i r e c t o r of C i v i l D e f e n s e i n each S t a t e s o m e q u e s t i o n s about ! e g i s l a t i o n , plans, and p r a c t i c e s , and then added this remark: " A n y c o m m e n t s o r r e f l e c t i o n s on y o u r e x p e r i e n c e i n C i v i l D e f e n s e e x e r c i s e s , i n t h e m a t t e r of t h e r e l a t i o n s h i p s b e t w e e n C i v i l D e f e n s e a c t i v i t i e s a n d t h e o p e r a t i o n s of the A r m e d F o r c e s , w i l l be m o s t g r a t e f u l l y r e c e i v e d . " S o m e e v i d e n t l y did not r e a l i z e t h a t t h e r e w a s a n y p r o b l e m of w o r k i n g r e l a t i o n s h i p s - - t h e y h a d not g o t t e n t h a t f a r . S o m e s a i d t h e y h a d b e e n given everythSng they sought f r o m the A r m y . Some had at l e a s t f a c e d up to t h e i r s i d e of the p r o b l e m . H e r e i s t h e e x p e r i e n c e of one State director: " I n 1952 we e n g a g e d i n a CPX a l e r t s u p e r v i s e d b y t h e J O C at A r m y H e a d q u a r t e r s , w h i c h s h o w e d up a c o n s i d e r a b l e p r o b l e m i n C i v i l D e f e n s e a n d M i l i t a r y c o o r d i n a t i o n . E a r l y i n 1953, we i697. - d i r e c t o r s w e r e c a l l e d to A r m y H e a d q u a r t e r s f o r a b r i e f i n g on a n o t h e r c o m b i n e d A l e r t to b e h e l d in t h e S p r i n g . "At this time there had b e e n a change in personnel at Headquarters, and it w a s obvious at this meeting that Civil Defense w a s less than a 'step-child' in this Alert. So w e declined to participate, and set up our o w n Operation--the military to observe. Actually, it w a s our feeling that Civil Defense w o u l d have to operate on its own, anyway, so let's get s o m e practice. " T h e Alert operated well within m o s t state areas, but f r o m an inter-state standpoint w a s far f r o m satisfactory . . . This year w e will again attempt an inter-state approach, but this time a blackboard drill. W e will again need military cooperation. " H e r e is the experience of another director: " M e m b e r s of the staff have participated in C o m m a n d Post Exercises with the (nearest) military District staff. While these exercises have been of s o m e instructional value to Civil Defense staff people, they have not b e e n too practical, mainly because of the vast difference in staff training and experience b e t w e e n Military and Civil Defense . . . . W e have a great deal of w o r k to do in this par'ticular field so that lines of responsibility and actual operating procedur e s can be m o r e clearly defined in advance. " I a m not u r g i n g that the a r m e d s e r v i c e s be a big b r o t h e r to C i v i l D e f e n s e j u s t out of k i n d n e s s to C i v i l D e f e n s e , a l t h o u g h to do s o w o u l d g r e a t l y s t r e n g t h e n t h e c o u n t r y w e a r e a l l s w o r n to p r o t e c t a n d defend. I am saying, rather, that an effective Civil Defense organizat i o n i s e s s e n t i a l to t h e s u c c e s s of t h e A r m e d F o r c e s . Suppose this atomic attack that has been given as our hypothesis: The Armed Forces will n e e d c e r t a i n h i g h w a y s for t h e i r own o p e r a t i o n s . Who will p r e v e n t i n g r e s s a n d r e r o u t e t r a f f i c ? T h e A r m e d F o r c e s m a y h a v e to e v a c u a t e certain areas. Who w i l l c o n d u c t t h e m o v e m e n t , w i t h a l l i t s l o g i s t i c a l s u p p o r t ? T h e A r m e d F o r c e s w i l l w a n t u n a u t h o r i z e d s i g n a l i n g to be p r e v e n t e d , s a b o t a g e to be g u a r d e d a g a i n s t , s u s p i c i o u s c h a r a c t e r s to be c h e c k e d . Who w i l l do a l l t h a t ? N o t G - l , G - 2 , G - 3 , G - 4 , t h e Signal O f f i c e r , the Q u a r t e r m a s t e r , nor the Engineer. A unit that t u r n e d f r o m i t s c o m b a t m i s s i o n to do by i t s o w n m e a n s a l l t h e t h i n g s it w o u l d r e q u i r e to be d o n e , w o u l d b e h o p e l e s s l y d i s s i p a t e d . I s u p p o s e 169S t h e c o m m a n d i n g g e n e r a l w o u l d e m p l o y h i s G - 5 S e c t i o n to s e e to i t t h a t the c i v i l a u t h o r i t i e s did the t h i n g s e s s e n t i a l to a i d t h e m i l i t a r y m i s s i o n , b u t i t w o u l d be t h e c i v i l a u t h o r i t i e s , w h i c h m e a n s the l o c a l C i v i l D e f e n s e o r g a n i z a t i o n , t h a t m u s t t h e m s e l v e s c o n t r i v e to dcv t h e i r part in meeting the crisis. T h e r e l a t i o n s h i p w o u l d not be one of c o m m a n d , b u t of c o o r d i n a t i o n a n d c o o p e r a t i o n . T h e c o m m a n d i n g g e n e r a l d o e s not t a k e c o m m a n d of the G o v e r n o r s o r t h e m a y o r s o r t h e d i r e c t o r s of C i v i l D e f e n s e i n t h i s a r e a . If he a n d h i s s t a f f a r e s k i l l f u l i n h a n d l i n g c i v i l a f f a i r s , a h i g h d e g r e e of m u t u a l s u p p o r t c a n be a t t a i n e d - - m o r e , c e r t a i n l y , c o u l d be a t t a i n e d in t h i s m a n n e r t h a n b y a n y a t t e m p t to o r d e r t h e m a r o u n d . M r . D a n i e l K. E d w a r d s , t h e n A s s i s t a n t S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e , s p e a k i n g on b e h a l f of t h e D e f e n s e D e p a r t m e n t a t the N a t i o n a l C i v i l D e f e n s e C o n f e r e n c e i n 1951, h a d t h i s to s a y : " C i v i l d e f e n s e i s a p r o g r a m t h a t s h o u l d be c a r r i e d on b y c i v i l i a n s . I n the f i r s t p l a c e , it w i l l r e q u i r e t h e m a x i m u m e f f o r t of o u r A r m e d F o r c e s to r e a d y t h e m s e l v e s a n d to c o n d u c t o p e r a t i o n s i n d e f e n s e of o u r c o u n t r y . T h e y s h o u l d not be b u r d e n e d w i t h a p r o g r a m t h a t c a n b e e f f e c t i v e l y c a r r i e d out b y the c i v i l i a n population. "But p e r h a p s even m o r e i m p o r t a n t than that, it is highly d e s i r a b l e that the p r o g r a m d e r i v e its g r e a t v i t a l i t y f r o m e n e r g i e s i n h e r e n t in local i n i t i a t i v e and in b r o a d popular support. " 4 / He w a s s p e a k i n g , not o n l y of p r e p a r a t i o n b e f o r e w a r b r o k e out, b u t a l s o of o p e r a t i o n s d u r i n g h o s t i l i t i e s . F o r i t w o u l d be t h e h e i g h t of f o l l y to p r e p a r e i n t i m e o f p e a c e on t h e t h e o r y t h a t C i v i l D e f e n s e w a s a c i v i l a n d S t a t e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y , a n d t h e n i n t h e h e a t of a c t i o n s u d d e n l y s h i f t to a d i f f e r e n t t h e o r y . T h e A r m e d F o r c e s a n d c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t , e s p e c i a l l y C i v i l D e f e n s e , m u s t l e a r n tO w o r k t o g e t h e r . L e a r n i n g to w o r k t o g e t h e r i s a m a j o r e l e m e n t i n m o d e r n w a r f a r e . T h e t h r e e s e r v i c e s a r e l e a r n i n g to w o r k t o g e t h e r . T h i s c o l l e g e i s a n e x a m p l e of j o i n t a 6 t i o n . D e f e n s e m u s t w o r k w i t h the D e p a r t m e n t of State, the T r e a s u r y , and other D e p a r t m e n t s . That is recognized by t h e p r e s e n c e i n t h i s c o l l e g e of r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s of o t h e r D e p a r t m e n t s . The p o l i t i c a l a d v i s e r f r o m t h e S t a t e D e p a r t m e n t i s now a f a m i l i a r 4] C o n f e r e n c e R e p o r t of m e e t i n g i n W a s h i n g t o n , 7 - 8 M a y 1951, p. 15. 10 i699 f i g u r e at a t h e a t e r h e a d q u a r t e r s . The United States and its allies m u s t c o n c e r t a n d c o o r d i n a t e t h e i r a c t i o n . We h a v e p r o g r e s s e d f r o m t h e C o m b i n e d C h i e f s of Staff of W o r l d W a r II to s u c h e l a b o r a t e a n d d e l i c a t e a r r a n g e m e n t s as the NATO s y s t e m . This has involved the d e v e l o p m e n t of s t a f f p r a c t i c e s , to w h i c h t h i s c o l l e g e a n d t h e N a t i o n a l War College make a major contribution. Defense today involves many r e l a t i o n s o t h e r t h a n c o m m a n d . I v e n t u r e to s a y t h a t m e r e c o m m a n d i s n o t a m a j o r e l e m e n t i n t h e o p e r a t i o n s of G e n e r a l G r u e n t h e r ' s h e a d q u a r t e r s a t S H A P E . O n e m u s t u s e o t h e r m e a n s to g e t t h i n g s d o n e . H e r e at t h e I n d u s t r i a l C o l l e g e , w i t h y o u r g r e a t c o n c e r n in t h e l o g i s t i c a l s u p p o r t o f m i l i t a r y o p e r a t i o n s , it m u s t be e v i d e n t t h a t m e r e c o m m a n d w i l l not a v a i l t o k e e p a l l t h e e l e m e n t s of p r o d u c t i o n l i n e d up. O n e m u s t develop other techniques. I u r g e t h a t t h e A r m e d F o r c e s m u s t l e a r n w a y s f o r g e t t i n g on w i t h the civil authorities--must develop staff techniques and standard procedures for cooperating with Civil Defense. The Assistant Secretary, i n t h e l a n g u a g e I j u s t q u o t e d , s p o k e of t h e " e n e r g i e s i n h e r e n t i n l o c a l i n i t i a t i v e and in b r o a d p o p u l a r support. " In p l a n n i n g for an a t o m i c attack, one should count upon that initiative and support. The great f e a r , it s e e m s to m e , i s t h a t a n a t o m i c a t t a c k w o u l d c a t c h C i v i l D e f e n s e so u n p r e p a r e d to s u s t a i n a n d r i s e f r o m a b l o w , t h a t i t m i g h t go to p i e c e s - - t h a t c r i e s w o u l d go u p , " N o b o d y k n o w s w h a t t h e s c o r e i s " ; " n o b o d y k n o w s w h a t to d o " ; w i t h a h e e d l e s s d e m a n d t h a t " t h e A r m y t a k e o v e r . " T h i s , I u r g e , s h o u l d be r e s i s t e d a n d w a r d e d o f f - both b e c a u s e the A r m y would be v e r y busy about its own p r o p e r r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s , a n d b e c a u s e of o t h e r w e i g h t y c o n s i d e r a t i o n s d r a w n f r o m e x p e r i e n c e , to w h i c h I s h a l l c o m e p r e s e n t l y . So I venture to urge that these relationships be practiced and strengthened and war-gamed, that staff practices be established and confirmed by trial, that hitches and kinks be spotted and corrected, to the end that, come an attack, the Armed Forces and Civil Defense could discharge their respective responsibilities with mutual understanding and confidence. T h i s m a y b e v i e w e d a s a s p e c i a l a n d d i f f i c u l t p r o b l e m of f e d e r a l i s m . The r e c o n c i l i a t i o n of n a t i o n a l a u t h o r i t y w i t h l o c a l a u t o n o m y d a i l y c a l l s f o r d e l i c a t e a d j u s t m e n t s - - a s in t h e r e g u l a t i o n of i n t e r s t a t e t r a n s p o r t a t i o n , f o r e x a m p l e , o r i n F e d e r a l j u d i c i a l c o n t r o l of S t a t e c r i m i n a l proceedings. H e r e w e h a v e a p r o b l e m , h o w e v e r , of a d j u s t i n g F e d e r a l m i l i t a r y a c t i o n w i t h t he a c t i o n of S t a t e c i v i l a u t h o r i t i e s . Civil-military 11 1700 relations are always s o m e w h a t delicate, and here w e have Federal military and State civil authorities. M o r e o v e r , the two m u s t learn to act together in m o m e n t s of emergency, w h e n there is little time for deliberation. So I repeat, here is a need for patient, thoughtful, resourceful staff work--a task for your very best endeavors. Now a b r i e f d i s c u s s i o n of t h e p r e v e n t i v e d e t e n t i o n of s u s p e c t e d c i v i l i a n s in t i m e of w a r . I w i l l n o t t a k e l o n g , f o r t h i s i s not a m i l i t a r y r e s p o n s i b i l i t y . It i s i m p o r t a n t t h a t y o u know t h a t we h a v e a s t a t u t o r y s c h e m e , a n d t h a t t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y h a s b e e n p l a c e d in other hands. I assume, for present purposes, that some preventive detention would be r e a s o n a b l e and n e c e s s a r y . The B r i t i s h - - c e r t a i n l y as l i b e r t y - l o v i n g a n d d e m o c r a t i c a s w e - , r e s o r t e d to s u c h m e a s u r e s i n b o t h W o r l d W a r s . 5 / I h a v e s t u d i e d t h a t h i s t o r y at s o m e l e n g t h . It is significant, v e r ~ i n s t r u c t i v e , and I b e l i e v e p r o p h e t i c . We should, and [ hope would, profit f r o m t h e i r e x p e r i e n c e . T h e a c t of C o n g r e s s of 23 S e p t e m b e r 1950, P u b l i c L a w 831, i n i t s T i t l e I I - - t h e E m e r g e n c y D e t e n t i o n A c t - - i n t h e e v e n t of w a r o r c e r t a i n o t h e r e m e r g e n c i e s , a u t h o r i z e s t h e d e t e n t i o n of any " p e r s o n a s to w h o m t h e r e i s r e a s o n a b l e g r o u n d to b e l i e v e t h a t .such p e r s o n p r o b a b l y w i l l e n g a g e i n . . . a c t s of e s p i o n a g e o r of s a b o t a g e . " P o w e r to i n i t i a t e a c t i o n l i e s w i t h t h e A t t o r n e y G e n e r a l . T h e r e m u s t b e a p r e l i m i n a r y h e a r i n g - - w i t h d i s c l o s u r e of t h e g r o u n d s a n d t h e r i g h t to c o u n s e l . If p r o b a b l e c a u s e i s f o u n d , t h e d e t a i n e e m a y a p p e a l to t h e D e t e n t i o n R e v i e w B o a r d , w h e r e u p o n a h e a r i n g i s h e l d , w i t h a c r o s s e x a m i n a t i o n of w i t n e s s e s . The B o a r d m a i n t a i n s o r t e r m i n a t e s t h e d e t e n t i o n . If t h e B o a r d f i n d s t h a t the d e t e n t i o n w a s w i t h o u t r e a s o n a b l e g r o u n d s , it a w a r d s a n i n d e m n i t y . J u d i c i a l r e v i e w of t h e s e actions is maintained. The Attorney General must render a report to t h e P r e s i d e n t and t h e C o n g r e s s e v e r y two m o n t h s . I see s o m e serious constitutional difficulties with the statute, but I will not bother you with that, o r with the grave problems of procedure. This has always been a very unhappy business in Great Britain, and it would be so with us. There are tremendous possibilities 5/ Cornelius P. Cotter, "E m e r g e n c y Detention in Wartime; The British Experience," 6 Stanford L a w Review 238-86, M a r 1954. 12 i701 of injustice, through mistake or excess of zeal. It would be a marvel if it did not run beyond all reason. I have mentioned this statutory scheme because of its interest to the Armed Forces, and because in times past some commanders have reached out to take this sort of concern into their own hands. T h i s w a s a s o u r c e of a n o t o r i o u s a n d lamentable conflict between the commanding general and a Federal judge in Hawaii in World War II. Now Congress has made its own provision for detention on suspicion; it has established procedural safeguards; and it has lodged the entire matter in the civil side of the G o v e r n m e n t . Now I have gotten thus far in my talk without once using the expression "martial law,"6/ or more accurately, "martial rule. U n i n f o r m e d people, even people w h o should be informed, are apt to suppose that, by saying "martial law, " the Executive can shift gears, throwing out the n o r m a l legal s y s t e m of p o w e r s and restraints, and throwing in an extraordinary s y s t e m with far m o r e p o w e r and far less restraint. This, I assure you, is a gross misconception. Put no m o r e trust in it than in the incantation "presto," or "abracadabra. " By declaring "martial law" one gains no lawful p o w e r that one would not have had without it. That last sentence m a y be subject to s o m e qualification in cases w h e r e a statute or a State constitution has m a d e s o m e express reference to "martial law. " T h e r e is, for instance, such a provision in the Organic Act of Hawaii. But for our present purposes-action by the F e d e r a l A r m e d F o r c e s within the body of the country-the proposition r e m a i n s true: declaring "martial law" does not m a k e lawful one single thing that w o u l d otherwise have b e e n unlawful. T o quote Chief Justice H u g h e s in a great opinion, a declaration of "martial law" affords no "avenue of escape f r o m the p a r a m o u n t authority of the Federal Constitution. "7 / In the law of the American Constitution, the questions are, first, Was the action taken--exclusion, restriction, seizure, removal, or whatever it may be--directed toward a legitimate end, an end that the law commands, for example, that the invader be repelled? Second, were the means used appropriate to that legitimate end? There, in a nutshell, is the entire law of the matter. 6/ 7/ T h e expression "martial law" has at various times had various meanings. I have discussed the historical b a c k g r o u n d in the law of "Martial Rule," 2d ed., 1943. A s here used, it refers to the a s s u m p t i o n by a military c o m m a n d e r of authority for s o m e or all of the functions of civil government. S t e r l i n g v. C o n s t a n t i n , 287 a n d 3 9 8 , 1 9 3 2 . m 13 Going o v e r the g r o u n d once m o r e , f i r s t , the end. I t m u s t be an end t h a t the C o n s t i t u t i o n and the law h a v e e s t a b l i s h e d ' - n o t m e r e l y s o m e end t h a t s o m e c o m m a n d e r c o n c e i v e s tt w o u l d be good to p e r s u e . The e n d s of w h i c h I s p e a k a r e a p p o i n t e d b y t h e C o n s t i t u t i o n - - t h a t the i n v a d e r be r e p e l l e d , t h a t i n s u r r e c t i o n be s u p p r e s s e d , t h a t the s y s t e m of c o n s t i t u t i o n a l g o v e r n m e n t be m a i n t a i n e d : The c o m m a n d e r h a s n o t h i n g to do with n a m i n g t h o s e e n d s . T h e y a r e e s t a b l i s h e d by the C o n s t i t u t i o n , w h i c h he and we a r e in duty bound to p r e s e r v e , p r o t e c t , and defend. So m u c h f o r the end. Now, " l e t the end be l e g i t i m a t e , l e t it be w i t h i n the s c o p e of t h e Constitution, and all m e a n s which are appropriate, which are plainly a d a p t e d %o t h a t end, w h i c h a r e not p r o h i b i t e d ° but c o n s i s t with the l e t t e r a n d s p i r i t of the C o n s t i t u t i o n , a r e c o n s t i t u t i o n a l . " 8 / I h a v e a p p r o p r i a t e d the l a n g u a g e of John M a r s h a l l , the g r e a t e s t of a l l the J u s t i c e s , i n M c C u l l o c h v. M a r y l a n d , j u s t 135 y e a r s ago. " W e m u s t never forget," he said in that s a m e opinion, "that it is a constitution w e are expounding . . . . a constitution, intended to endure for ages to come, and consequently, to be adapted to the various crises of h u m a n affairs." Marshall had been a soldier in Washington's a r m y - - a lieutenant at 19; later he had taken a major part in securing the ratification of the Constitution. H e was a m a n of faith, of confidence in the A m e r i c a n system of government, wherein public power is m e a s u r e d by a Constitution, adapted even to crises, and finally interpreted by an independent judiciary. C h i e f J u s t i c e H u g h e s - - o n e of M a r s h a l l ' s m o s t w o r t h y s u c c e s s o r s - once o b s e r v e d f r o m the C o u r t that, u n d e r the C o n s t i t u t i o n , " t h e p o w e r to wage w a r i s a p o w e r to wage w a r s u c c e s s f u l l y , and t h u s i t p e r m i t s the h a r n e s s i n g of the e n t i r e e n e r g i e s of the p e o p l e in a s u p r e m e c o o p e r a f i r e e f f o r t to p r e s e r v e the n a t i o n . " 9 / The p o w e r i s a d e q u a t e to a n y emergency. But t h e w a r p o w e r i s not e n t i r e l y E x e c u t i v e p o w e r ; t h e r e a r e s o m e t h i n g s t h a t r e m a i n f o r C o n g r e s s . S t i l l l e s s i s the w a r p o w e r e n t i r e l y confided %o m i l i t a r y c o m m a n d e r s ; it does not follow t h a t , b e c a u s e a c e r t a i n r e s u l t i s n e e d e d , the m i l i t a r y c o m m a n d e r m u s t himls e l f a s s u m e a u t h o r i t y to t a k e a c t i o n . M a y b e it b e l o n g s to s o m e b o d y e l s e 8/ 9] M c C u l l 0 c h v . M a r y l a n d , 4 Wheat~ 316 and 421, 1819. H o m e B u i l d i n g and L o a n A s s n . v. B l a i s d e l l , 290 U. S., 398 and 426, 1934. 14 703 to j u d g e on t h a t , C h i e f J u s t i c e H u g h e s s p o k e , a d v i s e d l y , of " a s u p r e m e c o o p e r a t i v e e f f o r t to p r e s e r v e t h e n a t i o n " ; a p r u d e n t c o m m a n d e r d o e s n o t c l a i m a m o n o p o l y on t h e b u s i n e s s of s a v i n g t h e Nations; he will seek and promote a supreme cooperative effort. I a m g o i n g to s p e a k of a n u m b e r of i n s t a n c e s of m i l i t a r y a c t i o n , to e x t r a c t ~ r o m e a c h i t s l e s s o n o n w h a t to d o - - o r , m o r e o f t e n , w h a t n o t to do, 10 / Ex parte Merryman, Federal C a s e No. 9487, 1861. T h i s c a s e a r o s e i n B a l t i m o r e , i n M a y 1861. M i l i t i a b e i n g r u s h e d to t h e d e f e n s e of W a s h i n g t o n h a d b e e n f a l l e n u p o n a n d b e a t e n u p by h o s t i l e m o b s at B a l t i m o r e . C o m m u n i c a t i o n s w e r e b e i n g c u t off. Presently President Lincoln instructed the commanding general that, if a t a n y p o i n t on t h e l i n e f r o m P h i l a d e l p h i a to W a s h i n g t o n h e f o u n d r e s i s t a n c e w h i c h r e n d e r e d i t n e c e s s a r y t o s u s p e n d t h e w r i t of h a b e a s corpus for the public safety, the commanding general was authorized to t a k e t h a t a c t i o n . M e r r y m a n , lieutenant in a secessionist militia c o m p a n y at Baltimore, w a s arrested and held at Fort M c H e n r y . His lawyer promptly obtained a writ of habeas corpus f r o m Chief Justice Taney, returnable at the Federal Circuit Court r o o m in Baltimore. The general in c o m m a n d replied that he w a s authorized by the President to suspend the writ; he respectfully declined to produce the prisoner; he requested time to receive instructions f r o m the President. T h e w r i t of h a b e a s c o r p u s , I s h o u l d e x p l a i n , i s t h e g r e a t w r i t of l i b e r t y ; i t i s t h e a c t i o n o n e b r i n g s to c a u s e t h e p e r s o n d e t a i n e d to be b r o u g h t i n t o c o u r t , i n o r d e r t h a t t h e l e g a l i t y of h i s d e t e n t i o n m a y b e determined. If t h e r e s p o n d e n t d o e s n o t s h o w l a w f u l g r o u n d s , t h e 10 F o r t h e b e n e f i t of a n y o n e w h o m a y b e i n t e r e s t e d , I c i t e t h e following where I have discussed more fully the instances mentioned i n t h e l e c t u r e : M r . J u s t i c e M i l l e r a n d t h e S u p r e m e C o u r t , 18621890, 1939, ch. IV, T h e C o u r t a n d t h e C i v i l W a r ; T h e L a w M a r t i a l R u l e , 2d e d . , 1943; " T h e L a w of M a r t i a l R u l e a n d t h e N a t i o n a l E m e r g e n c y ; ~~ 55 H a r v a r d L a w R e v i e w 1 2 5 3 - 1 3 0 2 , J u n e 1942; " T h e S u p r e m e C o u r t on M i l i t a r y J u r i s d i c t i o n : M a r t i a l R u l e i n H a w a i i a n d t h e Y a m a s h i t a C a s e , " 59 H a r v a r d L a w R e v i e w 8 3 3 - 8 2 , J u n e 1946. 15 "1704 . . . . . . . . . . p r i s o n e r i s s e t f r e e . T h e C o n s t i t u t i o n p r o v i d e s : " T h e P r i v i l e g e of t h e W r i t of H a b e a s c o r p u s s h a l l not be s u s p e n d e d , u n l e s s w h e n i n C a s e s of R e b e l l i o n o r I n v a s i o n t h e p u b l i c S a f e t y m a y r e q u i r e i t . " Who s h a l l d e c i d e , w i t h i n t h e m e a n i n g of t h i s l a n g u a g e , w h e t h e r t h e p u b l i c s a f e t y s o r e q u i r e s - - t h e P r e s i d e n t , o r the C o n g r e s s ? C e r t a i n l y it is the l a t t e r - - t h e C o n g r e s s . I w i l l not s t o p to g i v e t h e r e a s o n s w h y t h i s i s so. P r e s i d e n t L i n c o l n was, I think, i l l - a d v i s e d when he a u t h o r i z e d t h e s u s p e n s i o n of the w r i t . T h i s a c t i o n s e e m e d to put h i m i n t h e w r o n g . T h e C h i e f J u s t i c e p r o m p t l y w r o t e a f o r c e f u l o p i n i o n to t h e e f f e c t t h a t t h e P r e s i d e n t h a d u s u r p e d p o w e r t h a t b e l o n g e d to C o n g r e s s alone. On t h i s p o i n t , d o u b t l e s s h e w a s r i g h t . B u t m o r e b r o a d l y , s u r e l y u n d e r the c i r c u m s t a n c e s i t w a s l a w f u l to d e t a i n one who w a s e n g a g i n g i n a c t s h o s t i l e to t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s . It w a s l a w f u l to h o l d h i m t e m p o r a r i l y to k e e p h i m f r o m h u r t i n g the G o v e r n m e n t . This w o u l d b e t r u e w i t h o u t a n y f o r m a l s u s p e n d i n g of the w r i t . President Lincoln's measures were often, I think, far better in c o n s t i t u t i o n a l l a w t h a n the r e a s o n s t h a t w e r e a s s i g n e d . I r e g r e t t h a t he did n o t h a v e t h e b e n e f i t of b e t t e r l e g a l c o u n s e l ; at t i m e s he w a s put in the w r o n g - - a s by T a n e y ' s opinion in M e r r y m a n ' s C a s e - - w h e n b a s i c a l l y h e w a s on f i r m g r o u n d . W h y do I t e l l y o u of t h i s c a s e ? C h i e f l y to m a k e t h i s p o i n t : It i s o r d i n a r i l y u n n e c e s s a r y , a n d u n d e s i r a b l e , e v e n f o r C o n g r e s s to s u s p e n d the w r i t of h a b e a s c o r p u s . S u s p e n s i o n of the w r i t m e r e l y p u t s off the d a y of l e g a l r e c k o n i n g . I t t a k e s f r o m t h e p r i s o n e r h i s n o r m a l r i g h t to h a v e the v a l i d i t y of h i s d e t e n t i o n d e t e r m i n e d , h e r e a n d now. B u t if t h e r e i s good r e a s o n f o r h o l d i n g h i m , t h e G o v e r n m e n t w i l l d o w e l l to s e e k a n e a r l y d e c i s i o n - - n o t to s t a l l f o r t i m e . T h e n we w i l l k n o w w h e r e we a r e . F u r t h e r , I w o u l d t e l l y o u , a s o f f i c e r s of the armed services, that your prospects for being upheld are far better w h i l e t h e d a n g e r i s p r e s e n t , t h a n t h e y w i l l b e a f t e r t h e w a r i s won. I s h a l l h a v e o t h e r o c c a s i o n s to m a k e t h a t point. I f y o u m u s t h o l d a m a n to p r e v e n t h i m f r o m d o i n g a c t u a l d a m a g e to the U n i t e d S t a t e s - - n o t to p r e v e n t b i g t a l k , but a c t u a l d a m a g e - - t h e n g r a b h i m a n d h o l d h i m , a n d if h e s u e s f o r h a b e a s c o r p u s , go i n t o c o u r t a n d t e l l the j u d g e e x a c t l y w h y i t w a s n e c e s s a r y to do w h a t y o u did. If y o u h a v e a c t e d on r e a s o n a b l e g r o u n d s a n d h a v e done no m o r e 16 1705 than appeared necessary, to s u s t a i n y o u r a c t i o n . Ex parte Vallandigham, 1864. you may count upon the Federal Fed. C a s e No. 1 6 , 8 1 6 , judiciary 1863; 1 W a l l a c e 243, General Burnside had been relieved of the c o m m a n d of the A r m y of the P o t o m a c and assigned %o the c o m m a n d of the D e p a r t m e n t of the Ohio, with headquarters at Cincinnati. T h e area w a s infested with disloyal persons. Burnside issued G. O. No. 38, in part as follows: " T h e h a b i t of d e c l a r i n g s y m p a t h i e s f o r t h e e n e m y w i l l no l o n g e r b e t o l e r a t e d in t h i s d e p a r t m e n t . Persons committing s u c h o f f e n s e s w i l l b e at o n c e a r r e s t e d w i t h a v i e w to b e i n g i tried . o r s e n t b e y o n d o u r l i n e s i n t o t h e l i n e s of t h e i r f r i e n d s . T h e r e a f t e r B u r n s i d e r e a c h e d out and g r a b b e d C l e m e n t L. V a l l a n d i g h a m , t h e m o s t n o t o r i o u s of t h e C o p p e r h e a d s . Vallandigham h a d u n t i l 1863 b e e n a M e m b e r of C o n g r e s s , a n d a v i g o r o u s o p p o n e n t of t h e w a r . In a s p e e c h i n O h i o in 1863 h e h a d c a l l e d P r e s i d e n t L i n c o l n a t y r a n t a n d s a i d t h a t " r e s i s t a n c e to t y r a n t s i s o b i d e n c e to G o d . " V a l l a n d i g h a m w a s a r r e s t e d at Dayton and b r o u g h t b e f o r e a m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n at C i n c i n n a t i , c h a r g e d with h a v i n g p u b l i c l y u t t e r e d d i s loyal sentiments. H e w a s c o n v i c t e d , a n d s e n t e n c e d to c o n f i n e m e n t f o r t h e d u r a t i o n of t h e w a r . W h y did Burnside initiate all this controversy ? Did the A d m i n i s tration in Washington want h i m to silence and punish this noisy critic ? W h y did he suppress the "Chicago T i m e s " and forbid the circulation in his department of the " N e w Y o r k W o r l d , " as he did at this juncture ? T h e r e w a s telegraphic c o m m u n i c a t i o n with the capital. W h y did Burnside rush into this thicket of b r a m b l e s all on his o w n ? lit put the President in a m o s t unhappy position. If he sustained his ill-advised and impetuous subordinate, m a n y citizens, even perfectly loyal citizens, would resent this needless attack upon civil liberties. If he repudiated him, m a n y ardent loyalists would say the President lacked nerve and--to b o r r o w a m o d e r n w o r d - - w a s an appeaser. Burnside, a general w h o had failed in great things, might well have sought at least to be prudent in the smaller things that w e r e his responsibility at Cincinnati. But no, he rushed to take on the A d m i n istration's greatest critic, and to attack the press, by m e a s u r e s that w e r e needless, in excess of the occasion, and unconstitutional. 17 170{; L i n c o l n o v e r r u l e d h i m a s %o the n e w s p a p e r s . As to V a l l a n d i g h a m , the P r e s i d e n t o r d e r e d t h a t he be r e l e a s e d f r o m c o n f i n e m e n t and s e n t o v e r to the C o n f e d e r a t e s he l o v e d so w e l l . T h a t w a s a r e s o u r c e f u l w a y out of the m e s s B u r n s i d e had c r e a t e d . V a l l a n d i g h a m b e i n g no l o n g e r in c o n f i n e m e n t , t h a t ended the h a b e a s c o r p u s a c t i o n he had b r o u g h t . T h e n V a l l a n d i g h a m ' s l a w y e r - - s e e k i n g to g a i n a quick d e c i s i o n by the S u p r e m e C o u r t a d v e r s e %o the A d m i n i s t r a t i o n - a s k e d the C o u r t to r e v i e w the p r o c e e d i n g s of the m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n . The C o u r t h e l d , quite r i g h t l y , t h a t it i s not a p a r t of the c h a i n of m i l i t a r y a u t h o r i t y f o r the r e v i e w of r e c o r d s of t r i a l by a m i l i t a r y tribunal. I do not w i s h to discuss h e r e the p r e c i s e l e g a l p o i n t s i n v o l v e d . V a l l a n d i g h a m ' s c a s e i s of i n t e r e s t f o r us h e r e t o d a y a s a n o t a b l e i n s t a n c e of w h a t a g r e a t lot of t r o u b l e c a n be c a u s e d by one f i d g e t y g e n e r a l who l e a v e s h i s path of duty, w h i c h i s w i n n i n g the w a r , to e n g a g e in w r o n g - h e a d e d a t t a c k s upon the l i b e r t i e s of the c i t i z e n s . Here, as in so m a n y instances during the Civil War, President Lincoln could have cried, Save m e f r o m m y friends! E x p a r t e M i l l i g a n , 4 W a l l a c e 2, 1 8 6 6 L a m d i n P . M i l l i g a n of I n d i a n a w a s a m a j o r g e n e r a l in the O r d e r of t h e Sons of L i b e r t y , a C o p p e r h e a d o r g a n i z a t i o n t h a t h a d e n r o l l e d m a n y m e m b e r s in Ohio, I n d i a n a , and I l l i n o i s . The're w a s a plot, f i n a n c e d by C o n f e d e r a t e m o n e y s e n t in f r o m C a n a d a , to o v e r p o w e r the g u a r d s at P O W c a m p s at C h i c a g o , S p r i n g f i e l d , Rock I s l a n d , I n d i a n a p o l i s , and C i n c i n n a t i , to a r m t h e s e C o n f e d e r a t e s and to 6 v e t t h r o w the State G o v e r n m e n t s . 11 / T h i s w a s in the s u m m e r of 1 8 6 4 - when the e l e c t i o n c a m p a i g n w a d g e t t i n g u n d e r way. The G o v e r n m e n t w a s a w a r e of the plan, and took m e a s u r e s t h a t c o m p l e t e l y d i s h e a r t e n e d the c o n s p i r a t o r s . On 8 O c t o b e r the Judge A d v o c a t e G e n e r a l m a d e a r e p o r t to the S e c r e t a r y of W a r , d i s c l o s i n g the r a m i f i c a t i o n s of the p l o t A l l t h i s w a s i n j e c t e d into the e l e c t i o n c a n v a s s . What m e a s u r e s should be t a k e n a g a i n s t M i l l i g a n and the o t h e r s i m p l i c a t e d ? It s e e m s t h a t G e n e r a l H e n r y B. C a r r i n g t o n , who h a d 11/ T h i s plot i s the t h e m e of an i n t e r e s t i n g new book, J a m e s D. H o r a n ' s , C o n f e d e r a t e A g e n t , 1954. 18 1707 c o l l e c t e d the e v i d e n c e , wanted to have the t r i a l in a F e d e r a l c o u r t ; but G o v e r n o r M o r t o n of I n d i a n a and the S e c r e t a r y of W a r , Stanton, thought t h a t a t r i a l by m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n would have a m o r e s a l u t a r y e f f e c t in d i s c o u r a g i n g f u r t h e r p l o t s . 12/ On o r d e r s f r o m W a s h i n g t o n , the C o m m a n d i n g G e n e r a l of the D i s t r i c t of Indiana c o n v e n e d a m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n at I n d i a n a p o l i s and b r o u g h t M i l l i g a n and o t h e r s to t r i a l f o r giving aid to the r e b e l s , and on o t h e r c h a r g e s . He was c o n v i c t e d and s e n t e n c e d to be hanged. I n d i a n a was t h e n r e m o t e f r o m h o s t i l i t i e s . M o r g a n ' s r a i d in J u l y 1863 had b e e n the l a s t t i m e it was s e r i o u s l y t h r e a t e n e d . The F e d e r a l C o u r t was s i t t i n g r e g u l a r l y at I n d i a n a p o l i s . A t r i a l t h e r e would p r e s u m a b l y have r e s u l t e d in the c o n v i c t i o n of a l l w h o s e t r e a s o n could be p r o v e d . This trial by military c o m m i s s i o n w a s needless, unconstitutional, and politically erroneous. Justice David Davis, Lincoln's close friend and a judge of the utmost fideliiy to the Union, advised the President "that the various IT1ilitary trials in the Northern and B o r d e r States w h e r e the courts w e r e free and untrammelled, w e r e unconstitutional and wrong. " Lincoln put off acting upon the record of conviction, hoping that the w a r would soon be w o n and then, as he said, " W e shall none of us want any m o r e killing done. " But w h e n ~he record finally c a m e to the White House, Lincoln had been assassinated, and President Johnson approved the sentence--later it w a s c o m m u t e d to life imprisonment. T h e r e u p o n h a b e a s c o r p u s p r o c e e d i n g s w e r e b r o u g h t , and the c a s e c a m e up to the S u p r e m e C o u r t , which on 3 A p r i l 1 8 6 6 - - a y e a r a f t e r A p p o m a t t o x - - h e l d t h a t the t r i a l by m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n had b e e n u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l . M i l l i g a n went f r e e ; if he had had a p r o p e r c i v i l t r i a l p r e s u m a b l y he would have b e e n c o n v i c t e d and p u n i s h e d . Mr. J u s t i c e Davis spoke f o r the Court: "If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the court s are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theater of actual military operations, where w a r really prevails, . . (the military power) is allowed to govern by martial rule until ;he laws can have their free course. 12/ W. D. F o u l k e , .Life of O l i v e r -~P..M . . o. .r.t o n , I, 419. 19 vos, As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration . . . Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. V' It is also limited to the locality of actual war. The language m a y have been s o m e w h a t too strict, but the decision remains above question. So the Civil W a r ended on a note of constitutional restraint. The military authority had been placed, undeservedly, in a very unfavorable light as an e n e m y of civil liberty. In the decades that followed, down to World W a r If, the Court had no occasion to m a k e any further pronouncement about martial rule. But in the latter part of the nineteenth century, and down to the 1930's, governors in a n u m b e r of States b e c a m e m o r e and m o r e prone to declare "martial law" on slight provocation--on the occasion of s o m e labor dispute, or even for the most trivial incidents. The national guard would be called out and employed--usually, though not always, on the side of m a n a g e m e n t and against organized labor--and a good m a n y high-handed and rather outrageous things were done. Usually the matter was of brief duration, and only once did a case reach the S u p r e m e Court until Sterling v. Constantin, 287 U. S. 378, in 1932. Sterling v. Constantin w a s a part of the struggle over limiting production in the oil fields of Texas. Earlier prorationing statutes had been held invalid. Then the Governor declared "martial law" and instructed the adjutant general to do that which the courts had held unconstitutional. It was an attempt to bypass the Constitution by saying the w o r d s "martial law." Chief Justice Hughes, for a unanimous Court, held "No." That w a s the opinion where he said there was no "avenue of escape f r o m the paramount authority of the Federal Constitution. " The military authority, in the face of an actual emergency, has "a permitted range of honest judgment as to the m e a s u r e s to be taken in meeting force with force . . . . Such measures, conceived in _g_9odfaith, in the face of the e m e r e n ~ ed to the q_uell_!!! ~ of disorder or the prevention of and ~ t its continuance, a-rew-~-h~ the r a ~ e o-fp ~ i - ~ i ~ discretion. But "what are-the allowable limits of miiitar___~ydiscretion, and whether or not they have been overstepped in a _particular case, and judicial q'~e'-~ions Yt-w~'~a "gr--~ lnxon op" " and ever :---" today. 20 word of it rings true Y " " 1709: Now I c o m e to W o r l d W a r II. F i r s t , the e x c l u s i o n of U n i t e d S t a t e s c i t i z e n s of J a p a n e s e p a r e n t a g e f r o m the P a c i f i c C o a s t w a s s u s t a i n e d i n K o r e m a t s u v. U n i t e d S t a t e s , 323 U. S. 214, d e c i d e d i n D e c e m b e r 1944. J u s t i c e s R o b e r t s , M u r p h y , a n d J a c k s o n d i s s e n t e d . So f a r a s a l i e n J a p a n e s e w e r e c o n c e r n e d , t h e r e c o u l d be no s e r i o u s q u e s t i o n of the p o w e r to i n t e r n e n e m i e s . B u t to e x c l u d e A m e r i c a n c i t i z e n s on a c c o u n t of t h e i r a n c e s t r y - - t h a t w e n t v e r y f a r . I t i s f a i r to s a y t h a t the c o u n t r y h a s h a d a b a d c o n s c i e n c e a b o u t t h e w h o l e m a t t e r ; the m e a s u r e s t h a t we.re i n v o l v e d i n t h e K o r e m a t s u c a s e - b a s e d u p o n a r a c i a l c l a s s i f i c a t i o n - - a r e not to be r e g a r d e d a s h a v i n g solid judicial support today. I c o m e to t h e s e c o n d g r e a t e p i s o d e of W o r l d W a r H , t h e m i l i t a r y g o v e r n m e n t of H a w a i i . In D u n c a n v. K a h a n a m o k u , 327 U.. S. 304, d e c i d e d i n F e b r u a r y 1946, w h e n the f i g h t i n g w a s o v e r , the C o u r t h e l d that the m i l i t a r y r e g i m e that had been m a i n t a i n e d in Hawaii was beyond anything that the law could s u s t a i n . T h i s is a c a s e that t e a c h e s u s w h a t n o t to do. Go b a c k to the a u t u m n of 1941, b e f o r e P e a r l H a r b o r . The H a w a i i a n L e g i s l a t u r e was in s e s s i o n , c o n s i d e r i n g the s o - c a l l e d M - d a y b i l l , w h i c h b e c a m e the H a w a i i D e f e n s e A c t . 13 / T h i s s t a t u t e g a v e t h e G o v e r n o r p e r h a p s the m o s t s w e e p i n g a u t h o r i ~ e v e r c o n f e r r e d upon a n A m e r i c a n g o v e r n o r . In the e v e n t of w a r , h e w a s c l o t h e d w i t h p o w e r to m a k e r e g u l a t i o n s u p o n v i r t u a l l y e v e r y m a t e r i a l c o n c e r n , to r e q u i s i t i o n l a b o r a n d s e r v i c e s , to c o n t r o l the e c o n o m y , to r e q u i r e i n h a b i t a n t s to t a k e m e a s u r e s of d e f e n s e e t c . H e c o u l d e v e n s u s p e n d t h e o p e r a t i o n of s t a t u t e s . A n y v i o l a t i o n of one of t h e G o v e r n o r ' s r e g u l a t i o n s w a s a m i s d e m e a n o r p u n i s h a b l e in t h e c o u r t s . G e n e r a l S h o r t a p p e a r e d b e f o r e the t e r r i t o r i a l S e p t e m b e r 18 ¢o s p e a k i n f a v o r of t h e M - d a y b i l l . S e n a t e on He c o n c l u d e d : "I b e l i e v e i t i s a b s o l u t e l y e s s e n t i a l i n a n y b i l l p a s s e d b y the l e g i s l a t u r e to g i v e t h e g o v e r n o r the b r o a d e s t p o s s i b l e p o w e r s a n d d e p e n d on h i s d i s c r e t i o n n o t to u s e s u c h p o w e r s u n l e s s a real emergency arises. T h i s i n a l l p r o b a b i l i t y w i l l do a w a y w i t h the n e c e s s i t y f o r t h e d e c l a r a t i o n of m a r t i a l law. T h i s i s m o s t essential. 1_33/ Ch. 324, R e v i s e d L a w s of H a w a i i , a s L. SP. 1941, ch. 24. 21 1945; the s t a t u t e w a s e n a c t e d 17iO "I would very m u c h rather see the necessary action taken by the civilian population in the present emergency and have t h e m handle the e m e r g e n c y • • • 14/ You k n o w , of c o u r s e , t h a t i s n o t w h a t h a p p e n e d . O n t h e a f t e r n o o n of 7 D e c e m b e r 1941, t h e G o v e r n o r w a s i n d u c e d to d e c l a r e " m a r t i a l l a w " a n d to c a l l u p o n the C o m m a n d i n g G e n e r a l " t o e x e r c i s e a l l the p o w e r s n o r m a l l y e x e r c i s e d b y m e a s G o v e r n o r , " a n d to e x e r c i s e t h e p o w e r s n o r m a l l y e x e r c i s e d b y j u d i c i a l o f f i c e r s a n d e m p l o y e e s of and such other and f u r t h e r p o w e r s as the e m e r g e n c y this territory • m a y require." All this was done suddenly, on the Island. The President knew nothing of it until s o m e w h a t later. The A r m y authorities established what was styled a "Military Government." The courts of law were closed. Military commissions and provost courts were created, tO try "any case involving an offense committed against the laws of the United States, the laws of the Territory of Hawaii, or the rules, regulations, orders or policies of the military authorities."~/ Late in January 1942, the courts were permitted, "as agents of the Military Governor," to r e s u m e their normal functions, subject to considerable exceptions. 16/ Of course the Federal and Territorial courts created by Congres-~ could never be "agents" of a "Military Governor." The phrase s had supreme entire regime was conauc~e , power, supreme over the courts and the law. This was wrong; it must always be wrong so long as the A m e r i c a n constitution endures; and w h e n the validity of this regime c a m e before the S u p r e m e Court in 1946, the whole thing was struck down. Duncan v. K a h a n a m o k u was the case of a drunken civilian a~ the N a v y Y a r d w h o had punched a Marine sentry. The companion case of White v. steer concerned a stockbroker charged with embezzling the stock of his client. Both were tried before military tribunals. W h y w a s it necessary two years after Pearl Harbor in one case and eight months after in the other to bring these civilians before a military tribunal rather than the civil court appointed by law ? The counsel for one of the petitioners put that question to the C o m m a n d i n g General, in habeas corpus proceedings. Here is a part of the testimony: '~' 1 4 / M { n u t e s of t h e C o m m i t t e e of t h e W h o l e . 1-5] G. O. No. 4, 9 D e c 1941. "1"6] G. O. No. 57, 27 J a n 1942. 22 • 17ii Q. W h a t I a m t r y i n g to g e t f r o m y o u i s , why do y o u t h i n k we h a v e got to h a v e t h e p r o v o s t c o u r t s ? Y o u f i r s t s a i d t h a t o n a c c o u n t of the d e l a y s of t h e c i v i l c o u r t s . I s t h a t o n e of y o u r r e a s o n s ? A. That is one r e a s o n , yes. Q. You k n o w t h a t to b e a f a c t , t h a t t h e r e a r e d e l a y s i n t h e c i v i l c o u r t s of t h i s T e r r i t o r y ? A. I w o u l d not s a y in t h e c i v i l c o u r t s of t h i s T e r r i t o r y b e c a u s e I am not familiar with them. Q, A. Q. courts ? W e l l , t h a t i s w h a t w e a r e t a l k i n g about. But I say this: I d r a w on m y g e n e r a l e x p e r i e n c e . W e l l , i s t h e r e a n y t h i n g e l s e b e s i d e s t h e d e l a y s of t h e c i v i l A. Oh, y e s , t h e r e a r e m a n y r e a s o n s w h y we s h o u l d h a v e c o n t r o l u n d e r the p r o v o s t court s y s t e m . I thought I outlined that v e r y elabor a t e l y in m y d i r e c t t e s t i m o n y . Q. One of t h e t h i n g s y o u s a i d w a s t h a t y o u h a d to h a v e s o m e i n s t r u m e n t a l i t y to e n f o r c e y o u r o r d e r s ? A. Yes, which are not offenses against the Territorial or the Federal Courts. Q. Courts You a r e f a m i l i a r w i t h t h e f a c t t h a t t h e y c o u l d b e m a d e s u c h ? A. B u t , a s I s a i d , e v e n t h o u g h t h e y w e r e m a d e o f f e n s e s , I w o u l d s t i l l h a v e to go b e f o r e t h e c o u r t s , t h e c i v i l c o u r t s , w h i c h i s o b j e c t i o n a b l e w h e n t h e o f f e n s e s a r e of t h i s c h a r a c t e r t h a t r e s t upon s e c u r i t y . A n d y o u p l a c e t h e C o m m a n d e r , t h e n , of t h e a r e a u n d e r the c o n t r o l of o t h e r a g e n t s f o r e n f o r c e m e n t of h i s r e g u l a t i o n s w h e n h e h a s t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y of s e c u r i t y . A r e y o u g o i n g to t a k e t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o r t h e s e c u r i t y of t h e s e i s l a n d s ? Is t h e C o u r t g o i n g to t a k e t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o r t h e s e c u r i t y of t h e f l e e t ? I s G o v e r n o r S t a i n b a c k g o i n g to t a k e t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o r t h e s e c u r i t y of t h e f l e e t ? No. I h a v e it. And, n o r m y c o n s c i e n c e a n d n o r m y duty w i l l e v e r m a k e m e s a y t h a t I d o n ' t n e e d t h e a u t h o r i t y t h a t g o e s h a n d i n h a n d with m y a u t h o r i t y (sic}. 17 / 17 / Transcript of Record in Duncan 23 v. Kahanamoku, p. 1051 ff. The Supreme Court was unimpressed. Law Chief Justice Stone: "I f i n d n o t h i n g i n t h e e n t i r e r e c o r d w h i c h w o u l d f a i r l y s u g g e s t t h a t t h e c i v i l c o u r t s w e r e u n a b l e to f u n c t i o n w i t h t h e i r u s u a l e f f i c i e n c y at t h e t i m e t h e s e p e t i t i o n e r s w e r e t r i e d , o r that t h e i r t r i a l by j u r y i n a c i v i l c o u r t would have e n d a n g e r e d good o r d e r o r public s a f e t y . . . . the military authorities t h e m s e l v e s t e s t i f i e d a n d a d v a n c e d no r e a s o n w h i c h h a s a n y b e a r i n g on p u b l i c s a f e t y o r good o r d e r f o r c l o s i n g t h e c i v i l courts . . . I can only conclude that the trials and convictions . . . were . . . without lawful authority." Mr. J u s t i c e B l a c k , in his opinion for the C o u r t , said the m i l i t a r y a u t h o r i t i e s w e r e a u t h o r i z e d " t o a c t v i g o r o u s l y f o r t h e m a i n t e n a n c e of a n o r d e r l y c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t a n d f o r t h e d e f e n s e of t h e I s l a n d s a g a i n s t a c t u a l o r t h r e a t e n e d r e b e l l i o n o r i n v a s i o n " - - b u t t h e r e w a s no n e e d a n d t h e y w e r e n o t a u t h o r i z e d to s u p p l a n t t h e c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t . I n p r e p a r i n g t h i s l e c t u r e I w e n t b a c k to m y o l d f i l e on m a r t i a l r u l e i n H a w a i i , a n d I c a m e u p o n t h i s o f f i c e m e m o r a n d u m d a t e d 17 A u g u s t 1942--a m o m e n t w h e n the Hawaiian situation was at a critical state in Washington. The m e m o r a n d u m closes with this sentiment, to which I still subscribe: "If no c o m m a n d e r imposes any control over the civil population which cannot be justified in court, the judiciary will acquire s o m e confidence in the sobriety and self-restraint of military c o m m a n d e r s . It would be a splendid thing if at the close of the present W a r it could be said that the A r m y had imposed no control . . • that had not survived the test 'of judicial scrutiny." N o w , i n c o n c l u s i o n , to p u l l a l l t h i s t o g e t h e r . 1. W e l i v e u n d e r a n d a r e b o u n d to s u p p o r t a C o n s t i t u t i o n t h a t i s a d e q u a t e to t h e v a r i o u s c r i s e s of t h e N a t i o n . T h e p o w e r t o w a g e w a r i s a p o w e r to w a g e w a r s u c c e s s f u l l y . I t i s n e e d l e s s , it i s f o l l y , it i s a b l u n d e r , f o r a n y o f f i c e r to go on t h e t h e o r y t h a t h e h a s to b r e a c h t h e l a w of t h e C o n s t i t u t i o n i n o r d e r to s a v e t h e c o u n t r y . D o n ' t c r o s s t h e R u b i c o n - - d o n ' t a s s u m e a r b i t r a r y a u t h o r i t y on t h e theory that only so can you save the Nation. 2. T h e w a r p o w e r c o n t e m p l a t e s " t h e h a r n e s s i n g of t h e e n t i r e e n e r g i e s of t h e p e o p l e i n a s u p r e m e c o o p e r a t i v e e f f o r t to 24 171" p r e s e r v e t h e n a t i o n . " S e e k to m a x i m i z e t h a t c o o p e r a t i v e e f f o r t . C u l t i v a t e g o o d r e l a t i o n s , m u t u a l u n d e r s t a n d i n g . W e w i l l edl b e s e e k i n g to w i n t h e w a r ; we c a n do it b e s t by w o r k i n g t o g e t h e r . 3. W h a t e v e r a p p e a r s r e a s o n a b l y n e c e s s a r y to t h a t e n d , l e t i t b e d o n e . Done by w h o m ? If i t i s t h e s o r t of a c t i o n t h a t p e r t a i n s to t h e A r m e d F o r c e s , l e t t h e m do it. If it i s t h e s o r t o f a c t i o n t h a t p e r t a i n s to the c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t , l o o k to t h e c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t to do it. L e t the civil a u t h o r i t i e s close the saloons and e n f o r c e the c u r f e w s . If t h e c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t w i l l n o t o r c a n n o t at t h e m o m e n t p e r f o r m i t s p r o p e r functions, and action then and t h e r e is r e a l l y n e c e s s a r y , then t a k e it. B u t s e e k to a n t i c i p a t e a n d a v e r t a n y s u c h s i t u a t i o n . A s t h e Supreme Court said in Duncan v. Kahanamoku, the military authority should "act v i ~ for the maintenance of an o r d e r ~ o v e r n ment." 4. A d e c l a r a t i o n of " m a r t i a l l a w " d o e s n o t m a k e l a w f u l a n y t h i n g t h a t w o u l d n o t b e l a w f u l w i t h o u t it. 5. T h e A r m e d F o r c e s s h o u l d n o t a s s u m e t h e f u n c t i o n s of t h e S t a t e a n d F e d e r a l c o u r t s . T h a t w a s t h e p a r t i c u l a r f e a t u r e of t h e r e g i m e in Hawaii that the S u p r e m e C o u r t found u t t e r l y n e e d l e s s and unlawful. V i o l a t i o n s of C i v i l D e f e n s e r e g u l a t i o n s , of t r a f f i c c o n t r o l s , a n d t h e l i k e , w i l l be p u n i s h a b l e in t h e S t a t e c o u r t s . T h e a c t of C o n g r e s s of 21 M a r c h 1 9 4 2 - - n o w 18 U. S . C . s e c . 1383, 1 9 4 8 - - m a k e s it a F e d e r a l o f f e n s e - an o f f e n s e p u n i s h a b l e i n t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t s - - t o v i o l a t e r e g u l a t i o n s i m p o s e d i n m i l i t a r y a r e a s a n d z o n e s . I do not d o u b t t h a t i n t h e e v e n t of e n e m y a c t i o n w i t h i n tl~e b o d y of t h e c o u n t r y , t h a t s t a t u t e w o u l d n e e d t o b e e x p a n d e d . P e r h a p s r e l a t i v e l y p e t t y v i o l a t i o n s of l o c a l m i l i t a r y c o n t r o l s w o u l d be m a d e p u n i s h a b l e b e f o r e a U n i t e d S t a t e s C o m m i s s i o n e r , as is now p r o v i d e d for petty o f f e n s e s in p l a c e s u n d e r e x c l u s i v e F e d e r a l j u r i s d i c t i o n . 1_88/ B u t I u r g e u p o n y o u , t h e A r m e d F o r c e s s h o u l d not r u s h i n t o t h e b u s i n e s s of t r y i n g c i v i l i a n s by m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n o r p r o v o s t c o u r t f o r o f f e n s e s t h a t a r e c o g n i z a b l e in c i v i l c o u r t s . F o r a c t u a l o f f e n s e s a g a i n s t t h e l a w s of w a r - - a s i n t h e c a s e of t h e G e r m a n s a b o t e u r s who c a m e i n t o t h e c o u n t r y in 1 9 4 2 - - o f c o u r s e t h e m i l i t a r y c o m m i s s i o n is the a p p r o p r i a t e tribunal. 6. Establish channels for mutual consultation and for supporting action. This means continuous, intelligent, understanding staff practices. T h e s e a r r a n g e m e n t s s h o u l d b e t e s t e d in j o i n t exercises, in war games, until they become smooth and habitual. Treat the civil authorities with respect. Don't tell the Federal judge 18"] 18 U . S . C . secs. 3401 a n d 3402, 1948. 25 i?i or the State governor that you are making h i m your "agent." That is wrong in principle, and only gets us to fighting a m o n g ourselves. 7. Don't evade a challenge in the Federal courts to the m e a s u r e s you are taking. If you have done only what was necessary, you are on firm ground. Experience shows that it is safer for the c o m m a n d e r to have that settled during the w a r than to wait until the t is past. danger To work out wise patterns for civil-military relations in the event of an attack upon this country is a tremendous challenge to you, the future commanders and senior staff of the Armed Forces. I urge you to give it your best thought. QUESTION: I have two questions: The first one is about the Civil Defense Act of 1950. Isn't that divided into two parts, the one delegating the planning, guidance, and coordinating activities to the Administrator prior to the attack and then subsequent to the attack, doesnlt he have much broader powers as an operator which he uses through the regional director ? DR. FAIRMAN: doesn't have power The Administrator to command. Here has more power are the emergency but he still powers: "to sell, lease, lend, transfer, or deliver materials or perform services for civil defense purposes . . . reimburse any State, including any political subdivisions thereof, for the compensation paid to and the transportation, subsistence, and maintenance expenses . • • provide financial assistance for the temporary relief . . employ temporarily additional personnel .... Those " are things he needs--but they do not give the power QUESTION: Why don't they grant him those same to attack as he has subsequent to the attack ? It would a more to direct. powers prior seem to me actual situation. DR. FAIRMAN: That is for the FCDA to worry about. If it feels the need of a little more" elbow room now, I should think it would seek an amendment of statute. These are largely matters of procurement and spending, which are tied down by procedures. Congress is unwilling to turn the Administrator loose before an emergency. 26 17i5 QUESTION: I can see that in an emergency the Armed Forces would n e c e s s a r i l y h a v e to c o o p e r a t e w i t h the c i v i l i a n a u t h o r i t i e s a n d I c a n s e e t h a t i t would be u n d e r the a u t h o r i t y of t h e c i v i l i a n s . I d o n ' t s e e how we r e c o n c i l e t h e d o c t r i n e of " p o s s e c o m i t a t u s " w i t h t h i s u s e of t r o o p s . DR. F A I R M A N : I d o n ' t t h i n k t h e y a r e o p e r a t i n g u n d e r c i v i l i a n s . I t i s n o t a m a t t e r of the A r m e d F o r c e s b e i n g u n d e r S t a t e o r l o c a l c i v i l i a n a u t h o r i t y o r the c i v i l a u t h o r i t y b e i n g u n d e r the A r m e d F o r c e s . Y o u do y o u r job a n d y o u t r y to g e t t h e m a y o r to do h i s job. You c e r t a i n l y d o n ' t go o v e r a n d r e p o r t to t h e m a y o r a n d s a y , w h o m do y o u want shot. DR. F A I R M A N : P o s s e C o m i t a t u s g o e s b a c k to R e c o n s t r u c t i o n , l i k e so m u c h e l s e . 1 9 / T h i s w a s a s t a t u t e to t h e e f f e c t t h a t t h e A r m e d F o r c e s s h o u l d n o t e'~xcept a s e x p r e s s l y a u t h o r i z e d b y t h e C o n s t i t u t i o n o r b y a c t of C o n g r e s s , be u s e d a s a p o s s e c o m i t a t u s . It g o e s b a c k to R e c o n s t r u c t i o n w h e n t h e F e d e r a l f o r c e s w e r e s t a t i o n e d down t h e r e a n d w e r e c a l l e d o u t to a r r e s t a m a g i s t r a t e in the e x e c u t i o n of t h e law. T h e r e i s a n u n f o r t u n a t e c a s e w ~ c h o c c u r r e d i n I d a h o i n 1899. T h e N a t i o n a l G u a r d w a s s t i l l out, h a ~ n g gone ~o the S p a n i s h W a r , a n d t h e G o v e r n o r h a d a l a b o r d i s p u t e i n t h e C o e u r d' A l e n e m i n e s on h i s h a n d s . F e d e r a l t r o o p s w e r e s e n t t h e r e a n d t h e y got t h e m s e l v e s o r w e r e a l l o w e d to get t h e m s e l v e s i n t o a s i t u a t i o n w h e r e G e n e r a l M e r r i a m l e a d i n g the f o r c e o f the F e d e r a l t r o o p s to m a k e e f f e c t i v e ~ e t h i n g s the G o v e r n o r w a n t e d to d o - - a n d s o m e of t h e m w e r e , I t h i n k , r a t h e r u n w i s e t h i n g s . T h a t h a s s t o o d out e v e r s i n c e a s a n e x a m p l e of w h a t y o u s h o u l d n o t d o - - s e n d F e d e r a l t r o o p s i n a n d t e l l t h e m to r e p o r t to t h e G o v e r n o r a n d do w h a t e v e r l~e a s k s . W h e n E l i h u R o o t b e c a m e S e c r e t a r y of W a r , that whole thing was stopped. QUESTION: The thing I visualized, doctor, is such great conf u s i o n i n a n a t o m i c a t t a c k t h a t s o m e b o d y i s g o i n g to h a v e to s t a n d up t h e r e a n d s a y , " Y o u a r e g o i n g to do i t t h i s w a y . " I s i t g o i n g to be the g o v e r n o r or the m i l i t a r y ? DR. FAIRIVIAN: V~hat i s " t h i s ? " I s i t t a k i n g b o d i e s out of t h e d e b r i s ? I think that is the g o v e r n o r ' s b u s i n e s s . Is it shooting a r t i l l e r y ? That is y o u r b u s i n e s s . I know t h e r e is a f e e l i ng that t h e r e h a s to be one f e l l o w o v e r e v e r y o t h e r f e l l o w . T h e B r i t i s h h a d a good d e a l 19/ Sec. 15 of t h e A c t of C o n g . , 18~June 1878, 20 Star. 27 152. of e x p e r i e n c e with b l i t z e s , but the generals have n e v e r taken o v e r . Somehow l o c a l c i v i l d e f e n s e people get out the s u r v i v o r s and b u r y the dead. T h e y h a v e , I t h i n k - - I h a v e s e r v e d with t h e m as m a n y of you h a v e - - a b e t t e r c o n c e p t i o n of t h e s e w o r k i n g r e l a t i o n s h i p s t h a n we h a v e , p a r t l y b e c a u s e h e r e t h e r e a r e F e d e r a l , m i l i t a r y , and State o f f i c e r s , which a l w a y s m a k e i t h a r d e r t h a n as it is in E n g l a n d , w h e r e it i s the W a r Office and the H o m e Office, w o r k i n g u n d e r the s a m e g o v e r n m e n t . T h a t ' m a y not be a s c l e a r as you would l i k e it to be. I t h i n k if we h a d w a r - g a m e d t h i s thing, did i t o v e r and o v e r a g a i n , the s i t u a t i o n s would tend to c l a r i f y t h e m s e l v e s a lot m o r e t h a n by j u s t s i t t i n g h e r e in c h a i r s and s p e c u l a t i n g . QUESTION: I l e a r n e d quite a while ago t h a t you c a n ' t c o m m a n d by c o o p e r a t i o n , and, s i n c e doing two t e r m s in W a s h i n g t o n , I h a v e b e e n v e r y m u c h c o n f u s e d by the w o r d " c o o r d i n a t i o n . " It s e e m s to end up i n s o m e d i r e c t i v e w h e r e i n if y o u r e s t a b l i s h e d a g e n c y of G o v e r n m e n t d e c i d e s to u n d e r t a k e a p r o j e c t it a t t e m p t s to spend the funds of a n o t h e r agency. We in the m i l i t a r y s e r v i c e s b u m p e d up a g a i n s t t h i s p r o b l e m when we unified. We e s t a b l i s h e d p l a n s f o r j o i n t action; t h e y a r e quite l e n g t h y . We have s w e a t e d c o n s i d e r a b l y o v e r t h e m , but we h a v e t h e m . You can m o v e y o u r o r g a n i z a t i o n . You can p r e s e r v e y o u r o r g a n i z a t i o n i n t e g r i t y while f u n c t i o n i n g u n d e r a d i r e c t - c o m m a n d - a p p o i n t e d o f f i c e r w h e t h e r A r m y , Navy, C o a s t G u a r d , o r a f o r e i g n e r . What we n e e d is s o m e s o r t of p l a n s f o r j o i n t a c t i o n i n v o l v i n g m i l i t a r y and duly a u t h o r i z e d c i v i l i a n a g e n c i e s . The p a t t e r n of g r o u n d w o r k i s t h e r e . I w o n d e r w h e t h e r you have c o n s i d e r e d t h a t p o s s i b i l i t y ? DR. FIARMAN: QUESTION: Is it that in the end there Command is what will be one fellow ? you are after. DR. FAIRMAN: I think the answer then is the man in the White House. He is the only man far enough back to tell everyone what to doo QUESTION: No, I disagree, sir. You must have your authority delegated to the scene of action. If you are going to undertake tactical operations, you must have command on the spot. DR. FAIRMAN: Let us take five paces forward. Should I be at Denver or what about somewhere further toward the coast? All right; 28 17 7 I a m at S a c r a m e n t o . And y o u w a n t e i t h e r the G o v e r n o r of C a l i f o r n i a o r the C o m m a n d i n g G e n e r a l Sixth A r m y to h a v e o p e r a t i o n a l d i r e c t i o n of e v e r y t h i n g t h a t i s done. I think y o u r t h e o r y C a p t a i n , i s t h a t it h a s to be one o r the o t h e r of t h o s e two g e n t l e m e n . It c e r t a i n l y i s n ' t going to be the G o v e r n o r t h a t a s s u m e s c o m m a n d of the A r m e d F o r c e s . So in y o u r t h e o r y the A r m y c o m m a n d e r m u s t have u l t i m a t e d i r e c t i o n of e v e r y t h i n g in C a l i f o r n i a . A s soon as you have done that, every complaint--and they m a y be, not unreasonable and ill-mannered, but constructive and patriotic criticism--about h o w the General is exercising this total authority can be carried back only to the General's boss, w h o is the Secretary of the A r m y . This would d a m up all local civilian energy and dissatisfaction, too, because you put the civilian inhabitants and the m a y o r s and even the G o v e r n o r in the position of a private in the A r m y , w h o can m a k e his representation only through channels. I don't think that this_ is a practicable w a y of winning a w a r in this country. I think the experience in Hawaii shows that. I s a w that episode, not quite as a participant, but f r o m a ringside seat at one phase, here in Washington. The A r m y c a m e back to Mr. M c C l o y , the Assistant Secretary of W a r , and the civil authorities c a m e back to Mr. Ickes, Secretary of the Interior. There w e r e protracted conferences, in the office of the Solicitor of the Interior, over w h o w a s going to do this and w h o w a s going to do that. I believe that it should have been possible, on the ground, out there in Hawaii, to effect c o m m o n action--rather than to have to bring these local matters w a y back to Washington. A n d that w a s a relatively simple situation, because it w a s all Federal authority anyway. All parties w e r e subject to the President's direction. H o w m u c h m o r e theory it would be if it w e r e a Federal military c o m m a n d e r and a State governor. I don't think you can hand over to A r m y c o m m a n d e r s , with good prospects for successful action, c o m m a n d over State and local civil authorities. Don't misunderstand me. W h a t is it you want to have done ? If it is something really necessary to the national defense, get it done. I thought I m a d e that clear. But if the governor will do it, you are willing that he should do it, aren't you ? QUESTION: I want to m a k e it clear that I have no intention of disturbing the organizational integrity of the State and rnunieipal forces, but there m u s t be overall c o m m a n d . 29 DR. FAIR_MAN: W h a t i s t h a t o v e r a l l c o m m a n d ? QUESTION: T h e w h a t m u s t be d o n e , not t h e how but t h e w h a t . DR. F A I R M A N : P e r h a p s I a m w i t h y o u , i n t h e u l t i m a t e . B e f o r e t h i s t h i n g b e g a n , y o u s h o u l d h a v e y o u r w a r g a m e s . You w o u l d n ' t t a k e doughboys, and for that m a t t e r the Air F o r c e and Navy, who h a d n ' t w o r k e d t o g e t h e r , you would n e v e r s e n d t h e m out t h e r e with a book about w h a t t h e y h a d to do a n d l e t t h e m l e a r n h o w to do it. T h e k e y i s i n w o r k i n g t h e m out. I n t h e w o r k i n g out, y o u w i l l f i n d out how. N o n e of u s k n o w a l l a b o u t t h a t . If t h e g o v e r n o r w i l l s e e to it t h a t t h e y do get t h e b o d i e s out, a n d so on, y o u a r e c o n t e n t , a r e n ' t y o u ? If i t i s d o n e ? QUESTION: Yes. MR. F A I R M A N : T h a t i s h i s r e s p o n s i b i l i t y . As l o n g as h e i s d o i n g h i s job, a n d you a r e s t i c k i n g to y o u r s , I d o n ' t t h i n k y o u n e e d to say, " L o o k h e r e , G o v e r n o r , you a r e w o r k i n g for me. I a m y o u r b o s s . " I d o n ' t t h i n k t h a t i s g o i n g to m a k e h i m w o r k m o r e e a g e r l y . QUESTION: I still d o n ' t think we a r e o r g a n i z e d right; h o w e v e r , I c a n ' t put m y f i n g e r on it. DR. F A I R M A N : I d o n ' t t h i n k w e a r e e i t h e r . I t h i n k w e h a v e to l e a r n to do it. QUESTION: I merely suggested the pattern is there. DR. F A I R M A N : I a m w i t h y o u t h a t w e n e e d a c a r e f u l a n a l y s i s . If i n t h e e n d t h e g o v e r n o r s a y s , " L o o k , I a m n o t g o i n g to do i t , " a n d y o u s a y , " I t i s r e a l l y n e c e s s a r y , i t h a s to b e d o n e , " a n d s t i l l h e s a y s , "I w o n ' t do i t " - - d o u b t l e s s t h e n y o u w o u l d s e e to i t t h a t t h e n e c e s s a r y t h i n g w a s d o n e . B u t I t h i n k it w o u l d b e s i l l y to d i v e r t y o u r t r o o p s to do t h o s e t h i n g s u n l e s s t h e r e w a s no o t h e r m e a n s of d o i n g w h a t w a s necessary. QUESTION: That is the point, We c a n ' t . DR. FAIRMAN: Since you can't divert your troops, and these t h i n g s , if t h e y a r e d o n e , m u s t be d o n e by t h e g o v e r n o r ' s p e o p l e , t h e n e x t q u e s t i o n i s , A r e t h e y g o i n g to b e d o n e m o r e w i l l i n g l y by t e l l i n g h i m h e i s y o u r a g e n t o r by t e l l i n g h i m , "I k n o w y o u h a v e a h a r d t i m e 30 running your State but this must be done. " I think Civil Defense is pretty fopply. I don't think the conclusion is for the Army to rush in and fake over. The conclusion is, endeavor, very diligently, to get on together, and see how it works. Q U E S T I O N : Y ou h a v e l e d m e i n t o a d i s c u s s i o n I d i d n ' t i n t e n d to g e t i n t o . I w o u l d n ' t i n s i s t t h a t t h e c o m m a n d e r of t h e o v e r a l l s t r u c z u r e b e m i l i t a r y n e c e s s a r i l y , if, in t h e d e v e l o p m e n t of t h i s p a t t e r n , y o u e n d u p w i t h a c i v i l i a n , w i t h t h e m i l i t a r y r e s p o n s i v e to t h a t d i r e c t i v e . S o m e b o d y h a s to c o m m a n d t h e o p e r a t i o n . T h a t is w h a t I a m t r y i n g to s a y i n a n u t s h e l l , a n d n o w t h e y d o n ' t s e e m to h a v e it. It i s c o o p e r a t i o n a n d c o o r d i n a t i o n a nd it d o e s n ' t m e a n a d - - t h i n g . DR. F A I R M A N : T h e s e p r o b l e m s of c i v i l - m i l i t a r y r e l a t i o n s h i p s a r e t o o d i f f i c u l t a n d e l u s i v e , I t h i n k , to y i e l d to a s i m p l e f o r m u l a . U n i f i e d o p e r a t i o n a l d i r e c t i o n i s a s p l e n d i d c o n c e p t i o n a s it a p p l i e s to A r m y , N a v y , a n d A i r F o r c e c o m m a n d e r s , a l l of w h o m a r e s u b j e c t to a s i n g l e a l t e r n a t e a u t h o r i t y , t h e P r e s i d e n t t h r o u g h t h e S e c r e t a r y of D e f e n s e to t h e J o i n t C h i e f s of Staff. B u t t h e c o m m a n d i n g g e n e r a l a n d t h e S t a t e g o v e r n o r do not w o r k f o r a s i n g l e u l t i m a t e c h i e f ; o n e w o r k s f o r t h e P r e s i d e n t a n d t h e o t h e r h i m s e l f i s t h e h i g h e s t m a g i s t r a t e of o n e of t h e S t a t e s . The P r e s i d e n t d o e s n o t h a v e c o m m a n d o v e r g o v e r n o r s - - m u c h l e s s d o e s t h e c o m m a n d i n g g e n e r a l . I do n o t d o u b t t h a t t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t m a y , i n a l l t h a t i s r e q u i s i t e to e f f e c t i v e n a t i o n a l d e f e n s e , e s t a b l i s h s u c h a s y s t e m of n a t i o n a l d i r e c t i o n of S t a t e a c t i v i t i e s , s u c h a s c i v i l d e f e n s e , a s m a y a p p e a r n e c e s s a r y a n d appropriate. It w a s a g o o d p h r a s e w h e n y o u s p o k e of a n e f f e c t i v e o v e r all s t r u c t u r e . But however that may be, I believe that our greatest n e e d a t p r e s e n t i s f o r c o m m a n d e r s a n d s t a f f o f f i c e r s of t h e A r m e d F o r c e s on t h e o n e h a n d a n d g o v e r n o r s , m a y o r s , a n d o t h e r a g e n t s of c i v i l g o v e r n m e n t on t h e o t h e r to l e a r n to c a r r y on t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e functions with mutual understanding. T h e y w o u l d s t i l l h a v e to do t h a t , i n d a y - t o - d a y a c t i v i t i e s , e v e n if C o n g r e s s s h o u l d e s t a b l i s h s o m e u l t i m a t e o v e r a l l d i r e c t i o n . P r a c t i v e a t d o i n g t h e i r b e s t is t h e b e s t w a y to d e v e l o p w h a t m o r e m a y be n e e d e d . COLONEL BARTLETT: Professor, there are many hands that h a v e n ' t b e e n r e c o g n i z e d , but w e h a v e a p o l i c y t h a t t h e l u n c h h o u r c o m e s a l o n g a b o u t n o w . You w i l l r e c a l l w h e n I t e l e p h o n e d , p r o f e s s o r , I a s k e d y o u to t a l k to u s on M a r t i a l L a w . I k n o w t h e t o p i c y o u c h o s e i s m u c h m o r e c o m p r e h e n s i v e a n d m u c h m o r e b e n e f i c i a l to u s i n o u r f i n a l problem. So on b e h a l f of t he C o m m a n d a n t a n d t h e s t u d e n t s , m a y I e x p r e s s to y o u o u r d e e p a p p r e c i a t i o n . (7 June 1954--350)S/en 31