Chronicle of Higher Education 12-02-07 Concern Over Scientist's Support for Intelligent Design Surfaced Before Tenure Vote Public support for the idea of intelligent design damaged an Iowa State University astronomer’s prospects for tenure long before his peers voted against his application, The Des Moines Register reported, citing e-mail messages it obtained. The university denied tenure to Guillermo Gonzalez, an assistant professor of physics and astronomy, last spring, after a vote in November 2006 by his departmental colleagues. Officials stressed at the time that the decision was based on his scientific activity and publication record, which had trailed off after a promising start during his postdoctoral years at other institutions. But in the email messages obtained by the newspaper, professors were expressing concerns at least a year before the departmental vote about Mr. Gonzalez’s advocacy of intelligent design, which holds that some form of intelligence helped shape the universe. The Register quoted Iowa State officials as saying last week that Mr. Gonzalez’s high-profile support for intelligent design was discussed among his colleagues, but played only a secondary role in the tenure decision. In 2005, more than 120 faculty members at Iowa State signed a statement, started outside the department of physics and astronomy, that denounced intelligent design and urged professors not to portray the idea as science. —Charles Huckabee Comments 1. Wow! So much for the tolerance promoting libs who support the “theory” of evolution. Looks like the cry babies in the department of physics and astronomy decided it was easier to bully their opposition out than to stand up and take a few blows to the head. What wimps! — Scott Tatum Dec 2, 09:40 PM # 2. Perhaps Mr Gonzalez should consider switching to the pulpit instead of the classroom if he wishes to preach religion instead of science. Real science is difficult enough to find in this society. Sunday morning tv is flooded with preachers and there are churches on every street corner if students want religion. Universities should at least be one place a student should be able to find REAL science. — George Stevens Dec 2, 10:25 PM # 3. The study of astronomy relies either on the strict adherence to known physical laws (e.g. gravity) or the careful description of phenomena not adhering to the conventional model (e.g. dark matter). I can’t believe an astronomer who falls back on ‘God did it’ will have much to contribute to the scientific development of his or her department or to the discipline. — Chuck Levitan Dec 3, 05:34 AM # 4. It is interesting, but not surprising, to see how quickly a commentor leaps to ridicule science and evolution, equating them, of course, with liberal politics. Actually, it isn’t interesting, just more of the same old fluff. As a scientist, I care whether knowledge is acquired using the objective and empirical process of science—not what someone believes might have begun the process. It would not bother me to have a physician who believes in God or creation, as long as he understands medicine. I would rather that s/he understand something of evolutionary biology and humans in their context as primates and mammals, but s/he does not have to. I do not mind if a physicist or astronomer believes in God or intelligent design or is gay or has had an abortion (or wouldn’t) if that does not get in the way of how s/he teaches science or astronomy, and if s/he is a productive scientist and scholar and teacher. But, if any of those issues do interfere, that becomes a problem. — Joe Erwin Dec 3, 07:15 AM # 5. “ Real science is difficult enough to find in this society. “ – George Stevens George, I can’t agree with you more. What happened to ‘follow the evidence where it leads?’, and ‘let’s leave no stone un-turned in our quest for truth in science’, or ‘a fact is a fact… if the theory suffers, discard it’. Instead we have scientists distorting evidence, leaving out factual data, looking only where the data supports their precious theory and no-where else. When scientists are hand-cuffed to a theory and must make all their research fit or else, you can expect wondrous things, but unfortunately you can’t expect any science. — Ray Thompson 6. Zeus did it. Dec 3, 07:27 AM # — Joe Dec 3, 07:38 AM # 7. This is the politicization of science, and so no idea can be allowed to challenge established thinking. Funny how I read in these Chronicle pages a few days ago that some prof spouting racial bigotry in a class was found by the school’s faculty council to have had his academic freedom impinged when a student complained to the administration which took the complaint seriously. So what about this profs academic freedom to believe in creation? — Bill Dec 3, 08:49 AM # 8. No. Ray, we are not handcuffed by the theory of evolution. We are scientists. We are not likely to dabble long in untestable ideas. All of the theory of evolution is testable and has been subject to extensive testing. The core “theory” of Creationism (AKA Intelligent Design) is not testable and thus not science. When a member of a science department declares they are both a scientist and a believer in intelligent design (AKA Creationism) that strikes us an an intellectual conflict, not one of science and religious beliefs. I can be an evolutionary biologist and believe in God as creator of natural laws or the process of evolution. I cannot be an evolutionary biologist and believe in creationism. Besides, how does a physicist teach his class that the universe in only 10,000 plus years old? — JKW Dec 3, 08:53 AM # 9. In private moments I sometimes wish that those who prefer intelligent design could have their surgeon be a faith healer. Not really, I don’t wish anyone harm, but if intelligent design trumps everything, then ante up, my friends. Put yourself to the test rather than asking me to accept what is only supported by words. — Dave 10. Dec 3, 09:20 AM # I believe in a type of Intelligent Design. But I believe God had to design the laws of gravity, light travel, etc. He decides what causes DNA to mutate. He designed evolution. God works miracles…not magic. The problem is intellectuals try to out think FAITH. — Karlton 11. Dec 3, 09:40 AM # Intelligent design is not science. It is religion attempting to pass in scientific garb. Science seeks to explain nature by means of nature — not by reference to that which transcends nature. Intelligent design seeks to explain nature by means of something that transcends nature itself. That’s not science. — Sally 12. Dec 3, 09:43 AM # If they penalized him for being an advocate of Intelligent Design, what a shame! — M.A.R. 13. Dec 3, 09:48 AM # The young earth creationists and intelligent design advocates portray evolution as “mere” theory and like to refer to those who view evolution as fact as “Darwinists,” as if we were desciples of Darwin. All of us should be aware that the concept of natural selection, as set forth by Wallace and Darwin was not a complete explanation of the process of evolution. In fact, Darwin knew very little about genetics and inheritance. There was considerable debate, some quite heated, between the Mendelian geneticists and the Darwinian selectionists until Fisher’s “genetical theory of natural selection” introduced the “modern synthesis.” But even then, the structure of DNA was not known, and modern molecular genetics and genomics led to tremendous advances in the understanding of inheritance and development. Even then, the role of the parts of the genome other than the templates for making proteins was not appreciated. Now we are more aware of the role of mobile elements in modulating gene function and promoting insertions, deletions, and rearrangements. And much remains to be discovered. Perhaps some people’s faith in evolution is as uninformed as antievolutionists claim, but there are many scientists who continue to investigate without believing for a minute that Darwin had all the answers. Those are the people who “do real science” with an open mind. — Joe Erwin 14. Dec 3, 10:12 AM # Is there anyone out there old enough to remember “Red baiting”? Or, at least able to remember to concept of “spin”? As I read this report I was taken by what appears to be journalistic “spin.” I am willing to take at face value the allegation of that Mr. Gonzalez was denied tenure because he failed to meet the academic standards of his department. If that statement is correct, one can then wonder if his publication recorded tapered off as a result of his adherence to a belief in ID, thereby making publishable research difficult. If this be the case, then arguing that he was denied tenure because of his belief in ID has merit since that belief could have effected his ability to meet the academic standards of his department. However, the argument I have seen so far has failed to take into account the performance standards of Mr. Gonzalez’ department and any consideration of whether or not the faculty acted in good faith in denying him tenure. As someone who has served on tenure review committees, I am willing to accept that, in spite of concerns about Mr. Gonzalez’ beliefs, the department faculty acted on established performance standards and not capriciously. — Bob Harris 15. Dec 3, 10:20 AM # Why are we still debating this? As reported in the Onion, a peer-reviewed online journal, the widespread repression of the theory of Intelligent Falling demonstrates beyond question that Isaac Newton, with his “law” of gravity, has enshrined scientific intolerance. The Newtonians have so effectively stifled scientific inquiry that unbiased academics, simply for pointing out that gravity is only a theory, have been denied tenure! — BertW 16. Dec 3, 10:29 AM # Without wishing to intrude in what is shaping up to be a perfectly good food fight over evolution—the latest in the dozens, if not hundreds, of these to be waged in this forum over the past couple of years—I’d like to refocus attention on the fact that Prof. Gonzalez’ field is physics and astronomy, not biology. Unless I’m mistaken (and if I am, someone will no doubt contradict me), none of the research Prof. Gonzalez presented in his tenure dossier was on the subject of “intelligent design,” nor did he raise it in his physics classes. That being so, this revelation is disturbing indeed. My extracurricular beliefs may be odd, if not positively unhinged—I may be a British Israelite, or a Maoist, or the reincarnation of Queen Marie of Romania—but none of that should have the slightest bearing on my tenure application so long as they remain extracurricular. I don’t know what the faculty handbook at Iowa State says, but at my own institution, the deeply unprofessional behaviour to which members of the P & A department have now confessed to the Des Moines Register—that a colleague’s tenure application should suffer because of the “dangerous” nature of his personal views expressed in his non-academic publications—would be grounds for throwing out the original review and starting again, before the courts made us do so. Whatever one’s views on intelligent design (for my part, I’m a sceptic) all of us have a stake in academic freedom and uncorrupted process, concepts that seems to be unknown to ISU. If Prof. Gonzalez can be denied tenure because his non-academic writings are deemed “dangerous” to science, what are we to do when our non-academic writings, perhaps in the correspondence columns of the local newspaper, are declared “dangerous” by our employers to the arts and humanities? — Gustave 17. Dec 3, 10:35 AM # The 2005 Kitzmiller v Dover case against the school board members who advocated a discussion of intelligent design in their district’s classrooms was based on a “straw man” argument against intelligent design because it was proven that those board members and the literature that they used REALLY DID embrace biblical creationism. That was a sad day for intelligent design because it seems that forever more, through generalizing from the specific, it will always be equated as a mask for a childlike, bible-thumping, literal interpretation of Genesis, which is not always the correct way it should be seen. I say sad because there are thoughtful people, including myself, who see that science has yet to discover the actual source of the universe and, more importantly, its laws, gravity, magnetism, etc., and while it pursues that truth I am happy to look around and say that whatever or whoever started the process of creating this universe (which may have involved the creation of billions of other universes) must have had some intelligence, some ability to reason, to plan, to predict, even if the only thing that these features entail is the random nature of different systems and even the chaos that it produced. I believe that chaos and randomness are part of the genius of this creation and when I see genius I see some organizing principle behind it which is worthy of our continued exploration, scientific or otherwise. So for me to say that I recognize that an intelligent design must have preceded this universe is not to say that I believe in fairies or monsters or even God as presented in the Old Testament. It means I believe in an organizing principle that needs further explanation which is very close to what scientists would agree to if they don’t, in the most ignorant and yet prideful way, jump to the conclusion that I’m holding my bible behind my back. So in the future, now that you have been exposed to at least one person who accepts intelligent design as a likely explanation of the source of the universe but who also believes in evolution, natural selection, and recognizes the value of chaos and randomness — do not automatically presume that intelligent design is “A.K.A” biblical creationism in everyone’s mind. It is not. Paul A — Paul 18. Dec 3, 10:48 AM # Intelligent design does not mandate creationism or any particular age to the earth. There are different groups with different uses of the term intelligent design. Nor does Darwininan evolution absolutely make any statement about creation of life. There are many mergings of ideas that can be compatible. Dogmatic thoughts serve little purpose, on either side of the dicsussion. — B. Martin Dec 3, 10:51 AM # 19. This is an interesting discussion and in some respects an old tired discussion. Does anyone remember the events of Copernicus and Galileo? A thousand or so years passed before two brave souls decided to challenge the dominate discourse of the time (the religious community) “The earth was the center of the universe.” Obviously, it was clear that wasn’t the case – it was proven through scientific means that it was not and it changed the course of the planets history forever. What happened following those events, the religious community went on the defensive to exert it dominates. These men were censured and convicted of heresy. It wasn’t until 1992 when Galileo was vindicated by the religious institution that convicted him three hundred or so year’s prior. People believed this false assumption for over a thousand years, why because of the dominate discourse. These event speak volumes to what this outdated discussion speaks of. Theories are up for scientific debate through a means on non biased empirical investigation. A person can believe in or live for God and teach science, but when ones personal beliefs distort and influences what is being taught there have a problem, especially when tries to develop and implement policy based on what they believe with no empirical evidence. We need to decide in this country if we are going to teach science and rational/critical thinking, or teach intelligent design. This is the problem with this country, people lack critical thinking and rationalization skills and thus employers suffer from an underprepared workforce. If that is the case, and we teach intelligent design or whatever name their community decides to come up with tomorrow, we need to teach all forms of pseudo science (voodoo, mysticism, alchemy, astrology, etc) and not the assumptions from western thought, then we can see how the future turns out. I say stop straddling the fence and pick a side. Don’t hide one’s true intentions/motives. If you want to preach do it on Sunday in your place of worship and or outside of the educational classroom. If you want to teach science, do it at your respected place of employment. Intelligent design supporters will find it mighty strange if the pastor of their respected places of worship would teach mathematics and sciences on Sunday instead of preaching. Final note, if this country really believes in God as it so claims, then why do we have the highest levels of social ills, violence and racism toward people of color. Why do we have high levels of white collard crimes in this country? Why is the divorce rate so high? Someone is not paying attention to their Pastor and for that matter God. Instead of this ridiculous and vacuous debate, we should be concentrating our efforts of finding cures for cancer, AIDS, Alzheimer’s, and other terminal illness that affects thousands of people a year in addition to helping provide support networks for the less fortunate, the elderly, the orphan, the poor and homeless and for people who have suffered extreme forms of tragedy. — Aravind Sloan 20. Dec 3, 10:59 AM # One more thing, if a faculty member does not performance to the departmental, college, or university tenure guidelines as articulated by their policies, they cannot be award tenure. Now that is what has to be decided. Did he follow his department, college, and university guidelines for tenure as articulated by their policies, since coming to his respected university? If not – then no tenure, if so award him tenure. That is the question of debate, not so much personal views. — Aravind Sloan 21. Dec 3, 11:06 AM # The debate Intelligent Design v. Evolution/Darwinism is wrong and stupid. Very briefly: Darwin and men after him said that evolution went by small, independent and spontaneous changes – mutations. Now, Intelligent Designers say that these small, independent and spontaneous changes could not have lead to a meaningfully functioning organs, and that proves Intelligent Design. All – wrong. Evolution went by changes in the pattern of cell proliferation in the organism. In some cases, may be, it was a mutation that began to show its effect in embryo in some cells-progenitors (stem cells) leading to the change in the specific lineage of their large progeny. But, in other cases, I believe, a change in the pattern cell division affected entire embryo. Therefore, in this process the changes in PROGENY are NOT INDEPENDENT, or small, or spontaneous. Furthermore, the patterns of cell proliferation and the shape of the resulting structures are SEVERELY restricted by the intrinsic factor – cells do not move or proliferate independently (except in cancer), but are connected with each other in tissue. Just try to play with these structures and you will see the inevitability of DESIGN and the inevitability of all the well known shapes that we see in multicellular organisms. If we accept this, we don’t need to wonder about individual cells mutating independently but forming together meaningfully functioning structures. The design was there; it was smarter than some can imagine today. . — Michael Pyshnov 22. Dec 3, 11:51 AM # Fist let me say that I have a devout belief in God and Jesus Christ and believe that this universe was created with a purpose. However, I am also a scientist, and I don’t try to mix the two. Science is about what can be seen, observed, measured, proven, etc. Religion is about belief faith, the unseen, etc. Intelligent Design tries to cross the two areas. God will not be found when we develop a powerful enough telescope. He reveals himself in spiritual ways to those who seek Him. On the other hand, it is ridiculous to assert that scientists are ignoring truth to support their theories. Believe me, those who say that the theory of evolution has tenuous support are just ignorant of the facts. I am amazed at the evidence for evolution that comes from disparate disciplines such as psychology and geology. That is not to say that we fully understand how it works, but the main idea is really beyond any question for an intelligent person. So do I believe that God is the designer of all this? Yes. Is that a scientific belief? NO. At church I am happy to discus the answers to questions such as “Why are we here?”, “Where did we come from?” and “Where are we going?” because I believe that my religion holds the answer to those questions (you’ll notice the use of the word “believe”.) But when I am in the lab, I look at what I can SEE. You can’t prove the existence of a creator, and so Intelligent Design does not belong in science. If you had a scientist that said he believed in magic and alchemy and advocated its teaching in school you would be correct in identifying him as someone whose scientific fitness was questionable. Leave religion in church and science in the lab. — Jeff 23. Dec 3, 12:23 PM # I like what an old religion professor of my said, “Intelligent design, evolution, whatever. God did it.” Personally, I need no more reconciliation between faith and science than that. The problem with ID is that it is antievolution and unabashedly religious teaching; this was proven in the courts and is obvious to anyone who follows this ridiculous debate. This is contrary to the “give every opinion a chance” proponents of ID espouse. A physics professor who is content to simply say, “God did it” to everything he is uncertain about is not worthy of tenure.