Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Terry Sturtevant Wilfrid Laurier University April 30, 2015 Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Introduction Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Introduction When you have points on a linear graph, sometimes they will line up pretty well. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Introduction When you have points on a linear graph, sometimes they will line up pretty well. In this case, the uncertainties in the slope and y -intercept will be determined by the error bars on the graph. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit clearly crosses all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit clearly crosses all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit clearly crosses all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit maybe crosses all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit doesn’t cross all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? Least squares fit definitely doesn’t cross all error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When does a line cross an error bar? Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work y = mx + b (xi , yi ) The line clearly crosses the vertical error bar. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work y = mx + b (xi , yi ) Actually, the error bars form a box. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work ∆yi ∆xi This is the box close up. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work y = mx + b (xi , yi ) The line goes through the box, even though it doesn’t cross either bar. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work ∆yi ∆xi Here’s the box again. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work ∆yi ∆xi We can define it by diagonal lines. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work ∆yi slope is ∆yi ∆xi ∆xi Here’s one. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? ∆yi When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work K K K K K K K i slope is − ∆y ∆xi K K K ∆xi K K Here’s the other. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work y = mx + b (xi , yi ) A line only needs to cross either diagonal. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work The slope of the diagonal with the positive slope is Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work The slope of the diagonal with the positive slope is m+i = Terry Sturtevant ∆yi ∆xi (1) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work The slope of the diagonal with the positive slope is m+i = ∆yi ∆xi (1) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the positive slope is Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work The slope of the diagonal with the positive slope is m+i = ∆yi ∆xi (1) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the positive slope is b+i = yi − m+i xi Terry Sturtevant (2) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work The slope of the diagonal with the positive slope is m+i = ∆yi ∆xi (1) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the positive slope is b+i = yi − m+i xi (2) since, by definition, (xi , yi ) must be on the line. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Similarly, the slope of the diagonal with the negative slope is Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Similarly, the slope of the diagonal with the negative slope is m−i = − Terry Sturtevant ∆yi ∆xi (3) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Similarly, the slope of the diagonal with the negative slope is m−i = − ∆yi ∆xi (3) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the negative slope is Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Similarly, the slope of the diagonal with the negative slope is m−i = − ∆yi ∆xi (3) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the negative slope is b−i = yi − m−i xi Terry Sturtevant (4) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Similarly, the slope of the diagonal with the negative slope is m−i = − ∆yi ∆xi (3) The y -intercept of the diagonal with the negative slope is b−i = yi − m−i xi (4) since, by definition, (xi , yi ) must be on the line. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work For two lines y = m1 x + b1 and y = m2 x + b2 , they cross when there is a single point (xc , yc ) that satisfies both equations. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Thus yc = m1 xc + b1 Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Thus yc = m1 xc + b1 and yc = m2 xc + b2 Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Thus yc = m1 xc + b1 and yc = m2 xc + b2 Combining this gives m1 xc + b1 = m2 xc + b2 Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Thus yc = m1 xc + b1 and yc = m2 xc + b2 Combining this gives m1 xc + b1 = m2 xc + b2 and so xc = Terry Sturtevant b2 − b1 m1 − m2 (5) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work To see where the best fit line y = mx + b crosses one of the diagonal lines, we just use Equation 5 and so Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work To see where the best fit line y = mx + b crosses one of the diagonal lines, we just use Equation 5 and so xci+ = Terry Sturtevant b − b+i m+i − m (6) Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work To see where the best fit line y = mx + b crosses one of the diagonal lines, we just use Equation 5 and so xci+ = b − b+i m+i − m (6) xci− = b − b−i m−i − m (7) and Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work If either of xci+ or xci− is between xi + ∆xi and xi − ∆xi Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work If either of xci+ or xci− is between xi + ∆xi and xi − ∆xi then the best fit line crosses the error bars for point i. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work If either of xci+ or xci− is between xi + ∆xi and xi − ∆xi then the best fit line crosses the error bars for point i. If this is true for all of the data points, then this is a case of small scatter. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When this doesn’t work Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When this doesn’t work This tests whether a given line crosses all of the error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When this doesn’t work This tests whether a given line crosses all of the error bars. So, if the least squares fit line crosses all of the error bars, then this test is easy to use. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When this doesn’t work This tests whether a given line crosses all of the error bars. So, if the least squares fit line crosses all of the error bars, then this test is easy to use. It’s possible, though, that the least squares fit line doesn’t cross all of the error bars, but another line can be drawn which does. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work When this doesn’t work This tests whether a given line crosses all of the error bars. So, if the least squares fit line crosses all of the error bars, then this test is easy to use. It’s possible, though, that the least squares fit line doesn’t cross all of the error bars, but another line can be drawn which does. Unless we can determine the equation of that line, we can’t apply this test. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work If the x co-ordinate has no uncertainty, (i.e. there are only error bars in the y direction), then this won’t work either. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work If the x co-ordinate has no uncertainty, (i.e. there are only error bars in the y direction), then this won’t work either. However, in that case, it easy to apply a similar test to see if the line crosses all of the (vertical) error bars. Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work In this case, for each xi , it must be that yi − ∆yi ≤ mxi + b ≤ yi + ∆yi Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University Introduction Example When does a line cross an error bar? When this doesn’t work Another case where this doesn’t work In this case, for each xi , it must be that yi − ∆yi ≤ mxi + b ≤ yi + ∆yi or |yi − (mxi + b)| ≤ ∆yi Terry Sturtevant Large and Small Scatter Wilfrid Laurier University