Howard High School College Admissions Night This Whole College Application Thing Chip Saltsman Vice-President, Capgemini MIT Alumni Interviewer Parent More education means more earning power Education Didn’t finish high school Average Annual Earning Power $22,000 High school diploma $31,000 Associate degree (2-year) $38,000 Bachelor’s degree (4-year) $50,000 Source: College Board, Education Pays, 2004 College “lifetime” payoff (US Census Bureau Day and Newburger study, 2002). The value isn’t just money Longer life-span Greater economic stability and security More prestigious employment and greater job satisfaction Less dependency on government assistance Greater participation in leisure and artistic activities Greater community service and leadership The self-respect you get from your achievements Broad base of knowledge on which to build and solve more of life’s problems. Much of what you gain in college comes from learning outside the classroom, from participating in clubs, campus organizations and “testdriving” careers through internships and practicums. With some jobs, a degree is a requirement. For other it is a “check mark” and door opener. It is a ticket to compete that puts you in the running for a better future—but it isn’t a guarantee. Everything else is up to you. For a lot of people, it isn’t the destination, it’s the journey! Words to know: Associate Degree (AA, AS, AAT) = Twoyear degree program Bachelor’s Degree (BA, BS) = Four-year degree A “Credit” = one hour of class + two hours of other work FAFSA = Free Application for Federal Student Aid Chip’s Top Ten Rules . . . 10. There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! Put together a “portfolio”: 1-2 “Safety schools” (that you would attend) 3-4 “In your zone” 1-2 “Stretch schools” The challenge is actually narrowing down the list! Narrowing Down the List Location Setting – Urban/Suburban/Rural Size Diversity Activities & Sports Majors & Academic Programs Admissions Selectivity & “Degree of Difficulty” – How much do you want to challenge yourself? Cost Other specialization Narrowing Down the List www.collegeboard.com and use “College Matchmaker” tool. www.princetonreview.com Guidance office reference tools Library reference books www.kiplinger.com/tools/college - “Best values in Public Colleges” Just type “college search” into Google (106,000,000 hits) Popular Maryland Four-Year Schools College Accept Rate Average Reading SAT Average Math SAT Frostburg Univ. 66% 450-550 450-500 Goucher 67% 560-670 540-640 Loyola 46% 560-650 570-660 McDaniel 79% 490-610 500-620 Morgan State 19% 880-1050 total Salisbury 57% 520-600 530-610 Towson 64% 490-580 510-600 UMBC 71% 540-650 570-670 College Park 49% 580-670 600-700 Stevenson (used to be Villa Julie) 70% 450-560 450-560 Popular Out-of-State Schools College Accept Rate Average Reading SAT Average Math SAT Boston College 30% 610-700 640-720 Clemson Univ. 57% 550-650 550-670 Delaware, Univ. of 47% 550-640 550-650 Elon University 41% 560-640 570-650 James Madison 68% 530-620 540-630 Lehigh University 41% 600-680 640-720 Penn State Univ. 62% 530-630 570-670 Virginia Tech 72% 540-630 570-660 William & Mary 31% 630-730 630-710 York College 75% 500-600 500-590 9. They really do consider “the whole package” There there! are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out The key rule . . . There is no magical combination of attributes that will ensure acceptance to any college. “We’re looking for kids who have pursued their passion, whatever it is, and have become very good at it while they’ve been top-notch students. There are an awful lot of kids across the country that fit that outstanding profile—one in nine are accepted.” --Martha Homer, Harvard Senior Admissions Officer “95% of last year’s 11,300 applicants were qualified on paper to join the freshman class of 1,000. We are looking for students who are self-motivated, who are willing to take risks, who are willing to risk their ego and who are OK with being wrong. We want the nerdy, very un-cool kids who live full industrial strength for their interests and have a passionate curiosity.” --MIT Dean of Admissions What are they actually looking for, anyway? The Wesleyan checklist (each application is reviewed three times): Can they do the work? Class rank They read the essays SAT scores as an indicator Stand out in two extracurricular activities The track record of other students from your high school Are they living up to their potential? Do they match, and can they handle the culture at our school? Are they interested in us? So, how much does the SAT actually matter anyway? It is one of 20 things in the whole application packet. Some schools don’t even look. It matters when it is out of synch from the rest of your story. Every year, Harvard rejects people with 800’s, and every year, MIT admits people with SAT’s in the 500’s 8. Visit. Really VISIT! really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! They 7. Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! The “Highly Selective Universities” 7% - Juilliard School 8% - Harvard 9% - Stanford, Yale 10% - Columbia, Cooper Union, Princeton 12% - MIT 13% - Brown, Dartmouth, Amherst 14% - US Naval Academy, US Coast Guard Academy 15% - US Military Academy (West Point), Swarthmore 16% - Pomona, Claremont McKenna 17% - Cal Tech, University of Pennsylvania 18% - Middlebury, Georgetown 19% - US Air Force Academy, Williams, Bowdoin, Duke 20% - Cornell, CUNY – York 21% - UC Berkeley, USC 22% - Washington University (St. Louis), Rice 23% - College of the SouthWest 24% - Tufts Only 2.6% of schools admit less than 25% of applicants! US News & World Report, 2008. What do these colleges have in common? Harvard Yale Michigan Columbia United States Naval Academy Georgetown Eureka College Whittier College Texas State San Marcos The studies show: When it comes to long-term success, 75% of the educational benefit is determined by the student’s efforts and abilities. Some of it comes from the school. 6. Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! If it is so hard to get in, why on earth apply? Contact with people who are exceptionally bright, motivated, interesting, and who come from diverse backgrounds. From all over the world. Academic depth and breadth in your selected fields Academic and administrative flexibility. Academic challenge and the highest possible standards. A professional reputation that opens career paths and employment opportunities. To learn self-discipline and time management skills from having to apply yourself to your studies. The self-respect that you will gain from your achievements. To be challenged and grow to meet these challenges. The chance to be among other students who regard learning as fun, rather than a chore. Being taught by professors who actually enjoy teaching. The cultural and artistic environment on campus. Prestige. To get to know another part of the country. To avoid the housing and class scheduling problems typical of large state schools. Taking freshman classes from Nobel laureates and well-known authorities in their fields. 5. You can probably pay for it Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! How?!?!?! Some strategies . . . FASFA – The “Expected Family Contribution” (EFC) at $45,000 is zero Go to Community College, then transfer State schools are a LOT less expensive than private schools. Average 4-year private university expenses: Average 4-year public university expenses: Average 2-year public university expenses: $30,000+ $13,489 $2,361 Schools compete for particular students The “transfer student” strategy Barack Obama Stephen Colbert Columbia Northwestern (Occidental College transfer) (Hampden-Sydney transfer) How?!?!?! There is more financial aid than you think . . . Hope Scholarship Credit Lifetime Learning Credit Grants Federal Loans Coverdell ESA Private Scholarships Unsecured private loans Home-equity loans and lines of credit Work-study programs 529 savings plans ROTC Is Community College for you? You know where you want to be but need some training to get there You want to explore different choices before settling on a path You need to cut the cost of a four-year college degree Average 4-year private university expenses: $30,000+ Average 4-year public university expenses: $13,489 Average 2-year public university expenses: $2,361 You want to sharpen your study skills before enrolling at a university You want small classes and personal attention during your first college years You want to continue to work at your job while going to college You want to live at home Timeline: Community College Registration is 1st come, 1st served! Fairly straightforward process: Accuplacer test Meet with advisor Create your schedule You can register up to the day the class starts Most classes fill up – sign up early to get the best times for you! Fastest Growing Professions 2008-2018 (2-year Degrees) Dental Hygienists (+36%) Veterinary Technologists and Technicians (+36%) Physical Therapist Assistants (+33%) Forensic Scientist Technicians (+31%) Environmental Science and Protection Technicians (+30%) Occupational Therapist Assistant (+30%) Registered Nurses (+22%) Source: US Bureau of Labor Statistics, Department of Labor, Dec. 2009 Associates Degree jobs that pay serious money Accounting - $57,020 (average annual income) Employment & Placement Manager - $42,420 (study Business/Human Resources) Registered Nurse - $57,280 Dental Hygienist - $30.19/hour Private Investigator - $33,750 (study Criminal Justice) Paralegal - $43,040 Chef - $34,370 (study Culinary Arts) Fashion Designer - $62,610 (best to go to NYC) Computer Systems Administrator - $62,130 Engineering Technician - $49,440 (source: Yahoo Education web page & CNN Education web page) Community College Grads Jim Lehrer Jeanne Kirkpatrick Newscaster Victoria University, TX UN Ambassador Stephens College, MO Career Profile: Grew up in Philadelphia. Quit high school to help support his family. Joined the Navy, worked as a corpsman, finished his GED. Went to Temple and majored in Phys. Ed. Paid for it with a Football and Track scholarship Career Profile: Bill Cosby Grew up in Philadelphia. Quit high school to help support his family. Joined the Navy, worked as a corpsman, finished his GED. Went to Temple and majored in Phys. Ed. Paid for it with a Football and Track scholarship 4. Your parents, relatives and friends all have opinions. So what? You can probably pay for it Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! 3. This is your Senior Year longterm assignment Your parents, relatives and friends all have opinions. So what? You can probably pay for it Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! Do’s and Don’ts: Do: Get psyched! A bunch of schools really want you! Think about your recommendations. Look at the programs they have. Understand their educational philosophy. It isn’t a resort. Get organized. Know the deadlines. Don’t: Don’t ask, “It’s December 15. Umm, tell me where I should apply?” Don’t pick safety schools you would never attend! Don’t get hooked on “the one and only” school. Don’t get intimidated! Timeline: Four-Year College Take the SAT (March 25 registration deadline for May 1, 2010 SAT test) Note admissions packet deadlines! Many schools – Jan 1 Salisbury – Jan 15 College Park – Jan 20 Stevenson (Villa Julie) – rolling, Feb 1 UMBC – Feb 1 Towson – Feb 15 Admissions packet (they are all slightly different): Your personal information Your essays Guidance office forms Teacher recommendation forms SAT scores forwarded About that essay! “The euphemism we use is ‘polished.’ If you're paying someone that much money, there shouldn’t be fingerprints. But some essays have that sheen, that lemony-fresh smell that makes you wonder.” --Parke Muth, Admissions Dean, University of Virginia on college essay specialists Be honest Take a risk Write. Re-write. And re-write Get a second opinion. And a third. Proofread it again Don’t make the essay too important “The danger lies not in writing bad essays, but in writing common essays—the one that admissions officers will read dozens of. My advice? Ask your friends what they are writing—and then don’t write about that!” Scott Anderson, Associate Director at Mercersburg What is the parent’s role? It is not this . . . What is the parent’s role? It isn’t this either . . . The way your parents see it: What is the parent’s role? You know your student better You know the stakes better WHAT’S NOT OKAY Write the essay (Admissions offices will know if you do. Only grownups use semicolons or words like “heretofore”!) WHAT IS OKAY Brainstorm with your student about essay topics Read the first draft and talk about what “works” in the essay from an adult’s view Encourage a 2nd draft and review by others Sit on them (make “essay time”) Keep a log of their accomplishments What is the parent’s role? TO KEEP PERSPECTIVE 2. “I have no clue what I want to major in” is an OK place to be! This is your Senior Year fall semester project Your parents, relatives and friends all have opinions. So what? You can probably pay for it Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! Bachelor's Degree Starting $$$ Accounting $48,020 Business Administration/Mgmt. $46,171 Economics $51,062 Finance $48,158 Business $46,800 Marketing/Marketing Mgmt. $41,506 Computer Science $61,110 Information Sciences & Systems $52,322 Chemical Engineering $63,773 Civil Engineering $51,780 Mechanical Engineering $57,024 Electrical/Electronics Engineering $57,603 English Language & Literature Psychology Visual & Performing Arts Sociology (NACE Fall 2008 Salary Survey) $35,453 $34,095 $35,073 $35,434 Fastest Growing Professions 2008-2018 (4-year Degrees) Biomedical Engineer +72% Network Systems/Data Communications +53% Financial Examiners +41% Physicians Assistants +39% Athletic Trainer +37% Computer Software Engineers +34% Environmental Engineers +31% Survey Researchers +30% Personal Financial Advisors +30% Management Analysts +24% Accountant/Auditor +22% Elementary School Teachers +15% Source: US Bureau of Labor Statistics, Department of Labor, Dec. 2009 Strong local schools: Towson top-ranked teacher’s school, and you can get a degree in e-business UMBC one of US News ‘the best values in education’ and Newsweek ‘School to Watch’ Stevenson (Villa Julie) a Newsweek ‘School to Watch’ & US News #16 “Best Comprehensive” College Park #18 in US News Top Public Universities, #18 Best Business Program Speech Therapy Major Jay Leno Emerson (MA) Philosophy Major Phil Jackson NBA Coach University of North Dakota Sociology Majors Barbara Mikulski Michelle Obama Loyola (MD) Princeton Electrical Engineering Majors Amar Bose Judith Resnik (Astronaut) (Bose Electronics) Carnegie Mellon MIT Did Doctorate at Maryland Roommates at Harvard Al Gore Government major Tommy Lee Jones English major (All-Ivy football player) English Majors Julia Stiles Stephen King Columbia University University of Maine Economics Majors Donald Trump Sam Walton University of Pennsylvania Missouri Computer Science & Math Sergey Brin (founder of Google) University of Maryland History Major Steve Carell Denison University Math AND Physics Major Rear Admiral Grace Hopper (Computer Pioneer) Vassar Dentistry Major Thurgood Marshall Lincoln University (PA) Biology Majors Susan Hockfield Lisa Kudrow Vassar (President of MIT) University of Rochester Business Major Mick Jagger London School of Economics Education Major Gene Simmons Sullivan County Community College, NY Psychology Majors Natalie Portman Harvard Jon Stewart William and Mary 1. There are ways to increase your chances of admission! “I have no clue what I want to major in” is an OK place to be! This is your Senior Year fall semester project Your parents, relatives and friends all have opinions. So what? You can probably pay for it Actually, you should apply to Harvard! Who needs Harvard? Visit. Really VISIT! They really do consider “the whole package” There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out there! And what are they, please? The best single thing you can do to strengthen your application is to take the tougher classes and do well in those classes. The double-edged sword of “Early Decision” Have an Interview (MIT 2009 admit rate if you had an alumni interview – 15.4%. If you didn’t – 4.7%) Visit the campus, and make sure they know it The length of your resume doesn’t matter nearly as much as quality/value of experience Don’t do gimmicks Parents, I feel your pain. This is what I learned: My experience of 25-30 years ago is no longer valid. I needed to help my kids think as broadly as possible early on about all the schools out there. Just because you haven’t heard of a school doesn’t mean it’s no good. Remember that 75% thing (the value that comes from the student, not from the school). Don’t set your student up to consider they are a “failure” if they didn’t get into a super-selective school. You are the coach and the cheerleading squad. Celebrate each step, but they should do the work. Here is what really matters in the long run . . . Finding the right fit – schools that Share the same fundamental values and priorities as the student Are a place where they are comfortable enough to take the social and intellectual risks that make college really worthwhile Supporting Slides beyond here Why is college so #$%^@ expensive? Quest to be as good as they can drives up per-student cost. Reduced state government support It’s weird, but higher cost increases perceived desirability Top-talent bidding war for faculty Building all those plush amenities Cost of providing financial aid Plain old supply and demand "Basically, if you can pass on your costs, you don't care what your costs are!" –Joel Naroff, MIT Economics Professor