Regional Meeting Minutes
REGION:
South East
Date:
Wednesday 10th November 2010, 6.00 for 6:30pm
Venue:
Address:
The Knight’s Templar
95 Chancery Lane, WC2A 1DT
Where necessary please refer to support documentation in pre-meeting reports.
APPENDIX I – Pre-meeting Report from SIBA
APPENDIX II – Q&A with Nick Stafford, MD DDS
APPENDIX III – Celebration of Beers from the London & The South East of England Regions – details.
APPENDIX IV – Malt Report from Muntons
APPENDIX V – SIBA Membership Applications update
APPENDIX VI – Hop Report from Charles Faram – to follow!
1) Present
Brewer
WJ King
Pilgrim
Hepworth
Surrey Hills
Bowman Ales
Andwell
2) Apologies
Brewer
Sambrook’s
Nelson
Goddards
Hogs Back
Irving & Co
Flowerpots
Oakleaf
Westerham
West Berks
Meantime
Brewer
Tonbridge
Windsor & Eton
Ramsgate
RTWBC
Weltons
Other
Karen Goody – NYB
Peter McCabe – NYB
Martyn Hellier – Micropub.co.uk
Brewer
Wantsum
Twickenham
Ballards
Rectory
Dorking
Rectory
Havant
Camden Town
Flack Manor
Bingham
Associates
Fuller Smith & Turner
SIBA
Nick Stafford - DDS
Brewer
Ascot
Redemption
Associates
Murphy’s
Close Brewery Rentals
Botanix
SIBA
Julian Grocock – CEO
Charlie Gorham
3) SIBA DDS – Q&A with Nick Stafford, MD
 APPENDIX II – Q&A with Nick Stafford, MD DDS
4) Minutes & Matters Arising
 Proposed: WJ King
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 Seconded: Weltons
 Action Points from Last Meeting:
Oakleaf has been victim to a technical hitch, destroying the recording of the previous meeting however, CEO has a copy
and will forward it.
 Waiting…..still – giving up.
Treasurer - Ballards and Irving to liase over the transfer of duties.
 Half done – Dave and Carola remain signatories, Malcolm signing up. Should be completed shortly.
Hepworths will circulate a summary about the APPBG in general and the Christmas event in particular.
 More later…
….the meeting expressed strong concern that SIBA may be seen to endorse such prices and, furthermore, sought
assurances that steps would be taken to ensure that this would not happen.
 NS is present and this will be addressed later in the agenda.
Chair & Westerham on new SIBA sub-committee to discuss PBD. Need for level one brewers also to get involved. Is
position under threat? – Weltons (see pre-meet report).
 Wantsum Brewery (Kent) stepped up to the plate. More on PBD later.
Provisional Membership Applications. Royal Tunbridge Wells will organise as well as being Meeting Minutes ‘monitor’.
Colour coding to be confirmed.
 3 new Provisional Brewing Members - Not yet Brewing and 2 new Supplier Associate Members
 3 provisional members required to attend next meeting
 Appendix V. RTW picking up the mantle admirably.
Due in 2 weeks with expectation to go up in price, we will know price in Oct / Nov. (Westerham). Details to be circulated
when in possession by Chair. Any thoughts and theories on Malt group role as rep for SIBA SE please shout and contact
Westerham. Malt report attached, Appendix IV.
 Malt report on the way.

Hepworth advised brewers to set spec for any malt supplied. Proposed that a request be made to
Technical Director to produce a guide. RTWB
5) Regional Business
 PBD – the current situation. Ramsgate.
o Regionals lobbying strongly for a heavy reduction.
o We were hoping to negotiate a consensual proposal to take to the Treasury but failed.
o Now waiting for information from the SIBA Industry Report.
o The IR asked a question about SBR being paid at the end of the year – Ramsgate explains the
thinking behind it – basically it would help brewers price their beer more realistically. NS felt it
wouldn’t work as brewers would take bridging loans and nothing would change.
o SE Region has asked SIBA to highlight necessity of clarity from the Treasury in terms of the
future – accepted as a sensible request.
o No indication yet from the Treasury regarding timing of a review. We are currently waiting for the
report into alcohol duty to be published which might give a good indication of what we might
expect.
o Write to your MP, fill in the IR, write to KB, get your voice heard.
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o Ramsgate will report more after seeing results of the Industry Report.
Beer competition – Oakleaf.
o Reported a clear profit of £4080.10
o Agreed to pay £40 per firkin of beer supplied for the 2010 competition.
o Please send invoices for beer delivered to SIBA South East Treasurer, c/o Malcolm Irving, Irving
& Co. Brewers Ltd, Unit G1 Railway Triangle, Walton Rd, Portsmouth, PO6 1TQ.
o With sales of glasses, shirts etc to the rugby club the current bank balance is circa £7900
o With a few minor expenses to come in the prospective account balance will be about £3500, this
should allow us to buy beer for next years festival at a fixed price and pay immediately after the
festival.
o Well done and thankyou Oakleaf – stunning result.
o Next year more of the same:
 Venue – Juddians Rugby Club, Tonbridge.
 Date – Friday 15th July.
 Please send a representative.
Verbal maltster report – Goddards/Ramsgate/Flowerpot
o Contact Ramsgate if you need further info
Challenging the anti-alcohol lobby: beer is the solution – Westerham
o Challenge any reports, or reporting of alcohol issues that use beer as an example – beer is the
solution, not the problem.
Parliamentary Beer Club in Brussels – Westerham/Ramsgate/Hepworths
o More beer is required.
o Please consider donating a mixed case of beer – Westerham transporting.
o Please consider attending – a chance to tell your MEP about your business (and make sure they
help defend it).
o Details of the above in APPENDIX III, below.
o Contact Robert Humphreys on 07831270244 for further information.
6) SIBA Central
 See pre-meeting report attached
 Industry Report – deadline extended, please fill in.
o Given the necessity for PBD evidence this is more important than ever.
o JG very grateful to those brewers that have submitted.
o Request JG to confirm all completed IR’s.
7) Commercial Updates
 See pre-meeting report attached
 Beer & Brewing video blogs - In the pre meeting report “Beer and Brewing” Video Blog section there is a request for
opinions on £25,000 investment in the video blogs. In light of comments made about a similar level of investment in cask ale
week (which from memory was broadly disagreeing with £25,000 spent supporting cask ale week) I would certainly not
support £25,000 in video blogs and would consider cask ale week a much better investment. We at Sambrook’s would not
use the videos and we are actually in the process of doing a similar “home video” of our own. I estimate the cost of my home
video to be approximately £200. It may not be of the same quality but it will certainly be better for marketing/PR of our
brewery than the investment in the SIBA Video Blog. I would worry that such an investment would only benefit those
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breweries and brewers that were involved (of which it is only likely to be a few) and not the wider SIBA membership.
Sambrook’s
Ramsgate has contacted his film making brother, who says:
I would say they should cost - if you had a pro camera crew;
 £850 day camera and soundman
 £350 day editing
 £300 day directing
So to make those film (which are all done in a day)
 1 day film (with director/producer)
 2 day edit (with director/producer)
TOTAL
£850 + £700 (2 day edit) + £900 (3 day Director) = £2450
For all those vids from a region.
That's gonna get you a TV quality product. I suspect that they weren't filmed by a pro crew and probably by the director
himself. In that case they should cost = £1600
In reality £1600 ish is about right - that's approx what i would do em for. Each region of the country would cost that cos each
area is a seperate trip etc.\
Andwell – agrees with Sambrooks
Hepworth – On line TV company could do the job cheaper
Ramsgate – How is effectiveness measured for such a thing. Asked Fullers and W&E how effective the LBA video was.
Issue to be raised with council (Ramsgate)
8) Regional & National Updates
 Container management update – SIBA TS, Paddy Johnson.
o CASK REPATRIATION
 ORANGE STICKERS
 At the last RAMP meeting, attended by Paddy Johnson, all agreed that whatever
the 'good intentions' of the dray crews they must NOT uplift orange stickered
casks under any circumstances. To reinforce this the wording of the Orange
stickers
will
be revised
to
read:
WARNING!!!! DO NOT UPLIFT THIS CASK. ONLY OWNING BREWER (SEE
LABEL) IS AUTHORISED.A COMPANY INCORRECTLY COLLECTING WILL
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS RETURN COSTS. ANY QUERIES CALL SIBA:
01765
640441
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There are some consequences of this:
SIBA Brewers MUST use Orange stickers to be sure that their casks that are
directly delivered are not incorrectly picked up by other dray crews who are
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asked to clear cellars and who often are responsible for delivering a huge range
of cask beers.
 SIBA brewers using other Cos to distribute their beer (eg selling through JDW
centrally or Trade Team etc etc) will need to use casks that are NOT Orange
stickered. Casks will be picked up by the appropriate crews but as with all large
scale distribution of this nature there will be times that casks are incorrectly
picked up therefore and these will need to be repatriated in the usual ways.
 Where a SIBA member uses an Orange sticker they MUST uplift on a regular
basis or keg watch will be called to clear the cellar and the brewer will get a
charge. If a SIBA member therefore uses an orange stickered cask for say, a
wholesaler operating in some other area, they may receive calls from the account
to clear the cellar. They must arrange for this to happen immediately (either
personally or by the the wholesaler involved) or suffer clearance and then
charging by Keg watch.
 It was agreed by all that this simple system ,ie with or without Orange stickered
labels, was managable on a national basis and the large brewers undertook to
rebrief their crews (often via 3rd parties such as KNDL and trade team) ahead of
Xmas.
o LOGISTICS SCHEME FOR RETURN OF CONTAINERS
 Fortunately we have been making progress on two fronts: the resurrection of the transport
network between SIBA regional hubs and the more efficient use of the Kegwatch/Spatrak
system. More on that soon.
9) Future Meetings:
 Thursday 17th Feb 2011, 6 for 6:30pm
o The Crosse Keys, 9 Gracechurch St, EC3V ODR
o Keith Bott has agreed to attend for a Q&A session.
o Suggested topic du jour “PBD, what’s going on and what SIBA are doing about it”
o Please pre-submit any questions so we can manage the time effectively.
o Please don’t feel restrained by the title – feel absolutely free to ask questions at all and, as usual,
the trickier the better.
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APPENDIX I
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REGIONAL MEETINGS & COUNCIL October/November 2010
PRE-MEETING REPORTS
Prepared for meetings as follows:
 South-West – 22/10/10
 Scotland – 04/11/10
 Midlands – 09/11/10
 South-East – 10/11/10
 SIBA Council – 24/11/10
SECRETARIAT & OPERATIONS
National Activities Summary – since the last Council Meeting
 08/09: RAMP meeting, Burton
 08/09: Dea Latis meeting
 09/09: Morning Advertiser Pub Awards, London
 15/09: SOS meeting, Hambleton
 20/09: Publications planning meeting with Chris Freer, Long Eaton
 21/09: Official opening, National Brewery Centre, Burton
 22/09: Publications follow-up/website meeting with Freer Butler, Swadlincote
 27/09: Cask Report 2011 media launch, London
 28/09: SIBA Duty Committee inaugural meeting, London
 29/09: SIBA East Beer Competition, Wisbech
 29/09: Speaking engagement, ALMR Autumn Debate, Oxford
 01/10: SIBA North regional meeting, York
 06/10: Launch of annual SIBA Industry Survey
 06/10: Business meeting with supplier
 08/10: SIBA Wales & West regional meeting, Pontypridd
 12/10: SIBA Supplier Associates' Forum, Burton
 12/10: Annual Conference planning meeting
 12/10: SIBA Midlands Bottled Beer Competition, Nottingham
 13/10: SIBA Commercial Operations Board meeting, Burton
 13/10: BBPA Annual Dinner, London
 14/10: SIBA Midlands Beer Competition, Nottingham
 22/10: SIBA South-West regional meeting, Otter Brewery
 26/10: RAMP workshop, Burton
 26/10: Beer duty meeting with McMullen's, Hertford
 27/10: SIBA Great Northern Beer Festival final planning meeting, Manchester
 28/10: SIBA North Beer Competition and GNBF, Manchester
 02/11: Brewing Business Awards judging
 03/11: RAMP meeting, Burton
 04/11: SIBA Scotland regional meeting, Inveralmond Brewery
 05/11: Nottingham City Council licensing and night-time economy meeting
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JG/CG/LH
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JG
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JG/CG
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 09/11: SIBA Midlands regional meeting, Nottingham
JG/CG
 10/11: SIBA South-East regional meeting, London
JG/CG
 11/11: BBPA Beer & the Economy duty meeting, London
JG
 16/11: SIBA Pub Retail Conference, London
JG/CG
 16/11: SIBA Brewing Business Awards, London
JG/CG
 23/11: Keg & Cask working committee meeting, Burton
CG
 24/11: SIBA Council meeting, Peterborough
JG/CG
National Operations
 No further progress on a SIBA National office at the National Brewery Centre, but liaison and discussions
continue.
Commercial Operations
 Three non-executive appointments made to Commercial Operations Board (DDS): Stephen Gould, John
Hart and Francis Patton, bringing considerable business experience and acumen to SIBA's strategic
commercial planning from the wider corporate world of brewing, financial management and pubcos.
 One further SIBA Trustee appointment is under consideration to ensure that the balance of representation
on the Board is maintained.
National Finance
 Accounts in preparation for year ending 30/09/10.
 Budgets and forecasts prepared for new financial year, to be presented to Council 24/11/10.
MEMBERSHIP
Brewing Members 2010/11
 Beer Production Accounts received, subs calculated, invoiced, and Direct Debits charged.
 Subs income in line with target increase in revenue of 10%, calculated to redress fall in revenue last year.
 Subs charging formula for 2010/11 agreed unanimously by SIBA Council as follows:
LEVEL
HL PRODUCTION
BASE £
+ PER HL £
1
0 - 999
100
0.0750
2
1,000 - 4,999
175
0.0313
3
5,000 - 29,999
300
0.0200
4
30,000 - 59,999
800
0.0067
5
60,000 - 200,000
1,000
0.0071
ASSOCIATE
> 200,000
2,000
-
 BPAs show an overall increase in members' volume production of 4% year-on year (1.65m hl to 1.72m hl).
 Last year's brewers in levels 1/2/3 recorded an 8.5% increase in production (1.04m hl to 1.13m hl).
 481 brewing members on the books at 25/08/10, including those without production accounts for 2009,
those not yet brewing, and four associate brewers.
Supplier Associate Members
 Forum held at National Brewery Centre 12/10/10: to discuss all aspects of supplier associate membership;
to review membership services for associates; to evaluate sponsorship opportunities; and to look at
possible areas requiring improvement.
 Attended by approx. 40 delegates representing 30% of supplier associate members.
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Pub Associate Members
 Plans still being finalised for launch of a revitalised SIBA pub membership scheme.
 It is proposed to trial the scheme initially in one region (South-West) prior to national roll-out.
All Members
 £25 admin surcharge agreed by Council for members not paying by Direct Debit.
COMMUNICATIONS
Electronic
 The SMI is to be developed as the SIBA Members' Interface, to handle and facilitate all internal
communication for all members. It will effectively operate as a "noticeboard" for all SIBA member-services,
marketing and commercial messaging.
 Access to the SMI is now being (or already has been) extended to supplier associate members.
 All members are urged to maximise access to the SMI among their key employees.
 The SIBA website will continue to be developed as the online medium of communication to the "outside"
world: the wider brewing and pub industries; trade, national and regional media; potential members; and
local beer enthusiasts and consumers.
Members' Pack
 A compact hard-copy "Welcome and Introduction to SIBA" is being produced, which will include a
navigation guide to more detailed (but changeable) pages available in pdf form on the SMI.
Council Training
 CG has developed a comprehensive and ongoing IT training programme for Trustees incorporating email
systems, Microsoft programs and effective use of social network sites for marketing purposes.
SIBA Logo
 New logo launched 11/10/10. Overall very positive response to contemporary styling.
 Guidelines for use and download facility available to members.
PR Update Ros Shiel
Press Releases...
 07/09/10: on SIBA submission to Alcohol Taxation Review. Call to equalise beer and cider duty reported in
Morning Advertiser.
 11/10/10: for launch of new SIBA logo. Widely reported in trade press.
 w/c 25/10/10: on Foundation Inns joining DDS.
Other Activity...
 Glasses bearing new logo organised to be sent out with covering letter to distribution list of industry press,
trade associations and other stakeholders.
 Revised proposals for pilot of pub associate membership scheme.
 Attended first meeting of SIBA Beer Duty Committee.
COMMERCIAL
SIBA DDS
 DDS on-trade sales volume for the financial year ended 30/09/10 was 35,475 barrels, up 12.5% on the
previous year.
 Volumes for September were up 17.7%.
 On-trade sales turnover for the year was up 15%.
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 "Special" beers being introduced to Enterprise portfolio, to allow more than one seasonal or special at a
fixed ABV to count as one beer. To be rolled-out gradually, aiming to improve existing choice.
 Trust Inns secured as a new DDS customer. 500-plus pubs but initially only a few will take DDS beers, so
publicity deferred for the time being.
SIBA TS
 Further expansion of dispense provision capability for SIBA events, to service GNBF.
 Enquiries have been received from several companies regarding the possibility of SIBA TS providing
dispense services for 100% of their business.
 One enquiry has led to detailed discussions being started, and this is being actively pursued.
 Regularly updated TS messaging via SMI.
Members' Services – Commercial
 Centralised bulk purchase schemes (e.g. beermats) under review with a view to extending range of such
services offered to members.
 Any input/ideas from members most welcome.
MARKETING
SIBA Pub Retail Conference
 Morning Advertiser event at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, Blackfriars (19 New Bridge Street, EC4V 6DB),
16/11/10. Agenda and booking details at
http://siba.co.uk/2010/07/siba-pub-retail-conference-business-awards/
Brewing Business Awards
 Awards at the close of the SIBA Pub Retail Conference.
 Approx. 80 entries, including those for the inaugural design awards.
 Judging 02/11/10: brewers "in the frame" for an award will be notified immediately.
Cask Report
 SIBA represented on steering committee by JG.
 Report launched 27/09/10. Details and download at www.caskreport.co.uk.
 Hard copies and leaflets available at regional meetings and from julian.grocock@siba.co.uk.
Cask Ale Week
 Future participation remains under review.
 Consideration being given to moving CAW to coincide with launch of Cask Report (and shortly after launch
of CAMRA Good Beer Guide), to maximise publicity advantage.
Annual Conference 2011
 At Holiday Inn, Stratford, 03-04/03/11.
 Theme being finalised: JG is proposing focus on pride in local brewing, with regard to its remarkable growth
and enrichment thanks to SIBA and its members, and in the face of health-and-harm lobby attacks on beer
as part of the alcohol industry.
 Significant alterations to format under consideration, especially for the Thursday.
"Beer & Brewing" Video Blogs
 Part-sponsorship of series of short programmes by Pete Brown and Peter Amor under consideration.
 Blogs of a highly professional standard, could be made available to conference, website etc.
 First two films available to view at
http://vimeo.com/15392306 ; http://vimeo.com/15392979
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 Significant investment of £25k has been requested – opinions welcome.
POLITICAL
Alcohol Tax & PBD
 SIBA's formal contribution to the Government's Alcohol Tax Review submitted 03/09/10.
 First meeting of SIBA's Beer Duty Committee took place in London 28/09/10.
 Committee chaired by JG. In attendance were
Level 1: James Sandy (Wantsum)
Jim Kenyon (Hereford)
Level 2: Eddie Gadd (Ramsgate)
Robert Wicks (Westerham)
Level 3: Keith Bott (Titanic)
Level 4: Patrick McCaig (Otter)
Level 5: Stephen Pugh (Adnams)
 Invited but absent was John Roberts (Fuller's – associate brewing member).
 Ros Shiel attended to offer PR and media advice.
 For larger brewers, retention of the 50% rate of relief for the smallest brewers – to which SIBA remains
committed – is currently the principal stumbling block to progress and consensus.
Survey and Local Beer Report
 Questionnaire launched 06/10/10; to close Monday 08/11/10.
 Survey includes significant questions about PBD. Participation by as many brewing members as possible is
therefore crucial.
 SIBA Local Beer Report 2011 will be drafted from responses to the Survey and from membership and
production stats gleaned from Beer Production Accounts.
 LBR to be published February 2011.
Alcohol Issues
 JG invited to participate in Nottingham City Council's review of licensing, licensing reform, and night-time
economy issues in the city centre. To attend meeting 05/11/10.
 "Beer Champions" Forum, following SIBA/Castle Rock initiative, due to meet again, date tbc.
TECHNICAL
 Ongoing work with BRi developing more services for SIBA
 Please remind your region that the BRI helpline is there to be used and it IS confidential as well.
CONTAINER MANAGEMENT
 Cask repatriation processes and procedures under review.
 Proposals under consideration include enhancement of current Kegwatch operation to take in nominated
SIBA regional hubs for collation and collection.
 Feedback requested on SPA-Trak operational system.
BEER COMPETITIONS
"Keg" Competition
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 National Brewery-Conditioned Draught Beer Competition and Beer Festival to be held 17/12/10 at the
National Brewery Centre, Burton, as part of the museum's Christmas festivities.
 Members canvassed to gauge likely number of entries; official entry invitations to follow.
National
 National Final (10/02/11): Canalhouse, Nottingham. Followed by SIBA Champions Beer Festival.
 Category winners in brewery-conditioned draught competition to vie for overall "keg" champion at
Canalhouse and be included in beer festival.
Organisation
 Rules revision in progress – comments/observations/opinions welcome to julian.grocock@siba.co.uk and
paul.davey@siba.co.uk.
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APPENDIX II
Question and Answer session with Nick Stafford, MD SIBA DDS
(Answers from NS recorded here are abridged and not a complete record of details presented by NS)
1. The region has expressed strong concern regarding the (low) Punch price structure, feeling that it is setting a
dangerous precedent. Could Nick please explain the background and rationale to such a commercial position?
Region
Punch Taverns has been a target for DDS since 2004 and two years ago a trial for one year in the east of
England was agreed. This trial has ended, after two years, but not discontinued. A commitment to extend DDS
throughout the UK has been unsuccessful. Punch considers that the benefits of local beers are not conclusive
and, because of their other logistic routes, considers that Punch offers enough local beers to satisfy demand
without extended use of DDS. However, when extraordinary circumstances prevail, DDS will be asked to supply.
DDS advises brewers to continue in their general campaigning in their local pubs for an extension of DDS, but
brewers must not imply through their actions that Punch licensees are allowed to join the scheme without the
permission of their BDM.
Punch Taverns do not see that local beers should be priced at a premium to other beers. The price that they
have offered local brewers is the price at which, after adding their margin, it is fair for retailers to pay. Bearing in
mind Punch’s relative indifference to a meaningful supply of local beers and their reluctance to see premium
quality local ales being sold at a premium price, there is nothing that DDS can do to improve the price. Indeed,
Punch’s stance does serve to reinforce the concept that local beers are not commodities, but added-value
brands, which other pubcos realise and from which they benefit.
Questions and points raised;
Hepworth – Maybe option to remove from Punch and back EIP more especially when lager market is down 7%
Currently only three brewers have formally refused to supply Punch and four more informally. This leaves 350+
brewers who are happy to supply. For DDS to refuse to supply Punch would create greater dissatisfaction
amongst members. DDS continues to support any opportunity that promotes members beers and this applies to
the support of SIBA members who brew lager.
Ramsgate – Political Angle. Are Punch working with DDS only to show willing?Yes, a possibility, but perhaps
Punch is preoccupied with servicing that huge debt problem and just not enough concerned with the subtleties of
the local beer industry.
WJ King – Is there a danger that EIP will want Punch prices now or in the future? No, Enterprise is aware of the
price differential, but is very keen to promote local ales as a premium offering to consumer. A USP such as local
beers needs to be recognized by price, let alone a reflection of the extra costs involved in producing such beers.
Ramsgate – Punch are currently offering the chance of FOT pubs. Will Punch DS price influence the supply
price to these pubs?No, the two schemes are totally separate.
East /West – Better to be engaged with Punch than not.
2. Enterprise Inns only allow three beers per brewery on their list, yet there are some with more, for example:
Birds 2009
4
Lytham 2008
4
Grafton 2007
4
Mayfields 2005
4
Naylors 2005
5
Thornbridge 2005
5
Will this concession be extended to the rest of us? All decisions are made by Enterprise Inns. Historically
Enterprise allowed more brands, but this was only in the very early days. Enterprise and not DDS decide what
happens. Enterprise has allowed Specials to replace poor selling brands. Indeed, Enterprise has indicated that
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brands not selling will be withdrawn, rather than new brands be allowed. Enterprise will always consider any
brand that is a ‘must have’ brand to be included in a listing in addition to three brands.
Bowman/Ramsgate
Questions and points raised;
Ramsgate – Are any additional beers generated only via the EIP BDM? The BDM has considerably
autonomy.He or She may indeed suggest anything to a licensee. Brewers are advised not to approach BDMs as
any inference that a BDM does not know what the beer market offers could do you more harm than good!
RTWBC – Can you substitute one beer for another from the list? Never. If Enterprise find substantiated evidence
they may delist a brewer. Brewers are advised to inform DDS confidentially of any suspected breaking of rules
by another brewer. SIBA will fully support the expulsion from DDS of a brewer who has cheated the system,
unfairly gained business from other brewers and jeopardized the whole scheme for all participating brewers.
3. Is there anyway that we could change the system whereby the addition of a "special" beer to the list means
the removal of a standard beer. When I have a meal in a pub and choose from the specials board I don't see
them taking a dish off the main menu. No. As much as DDS continuously supports choice in its negotiations with
Enterprise, it is their decision on policy.
Bowman
Questions and points raised;
Ramsgate – Can brewers deliver for one another?Same answer to ‘substitution’. No.
4. I have a lot of good quality Enterprise Inns in my area and all of the licensees are enthusiastic about what the
DDS scheme can bring to their business. However, many restrict the amount of volume they buy through DDS
because of a significant difference in price vs. ales brought via the official distributor. SIBA beers been reported
to be as much as 30% higher when directly comparing like for like ABV products brought from the nominated
Enterprise distributor. (a similar issue mentioned by Admiral licensees).
Why does there need to be such a difference in pricing, particularly as the DDS member carries the distribution
costs which can be quite high when a pub can order as little as one cask, and the total supply chain is one party
shorter than beers via a distributor? Further to the previous answer on Enterprises support of premium pricing of
local beers, Enterprise is looking at discount banding, but DDS is concerned that price competition between
members would ensue and be detrimental overall for local brewers. DDS has always promoted a free market
economy, but has to handle contradictory wishes of its brewing participants.
Tonbridge Brewery
Questions and points raised;
Windsor & Eton – Are all EIP leases being told about SIBA DDS and their potential to buy SIBA DDS beers? Is it
a right for the lease to buy from this list? No, it is not a right. Licensees are not necessarily told anything. It is up
to the RM to support the commercial interests of the licensee and Enterprise as they see fit.
5. When will Enterprise and Punch be able to buy bottled beers through DDS? Bottled beers have been
discussed, but attention has been focussed on the primary commercial activity of cask ale for obvious reasons.
As the market for bottled beers grows, especially the nascent super premium category, discussions should
continue with greater vigour.
Meantime
Questions and points raised;
Ramsgate – Any time scale on changes in this position? No
Hepworth – Do try local off trade as they are often very willing to list local beers. As reported at the last Annual
Conference, SIBA spent around £20,000 investigated routes to the bottled beer market that SIBA could open
additionally as a facilitator. Unfortunately these openings are few. Brewers need to rely in the short term on
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usual routes to the Off trade. The main obstacle is the Off Trade predilection to price premium bottled beers from
local brewers at commodity values. SIBA considers that a £1.90 500ml bottle of beer should actually be sold at a
minimum of £2.20. Without the consumer paying such a price for an inherently rarer and potentially better beer,
the Off Trade will not have the benefit of supply of choice to the same degree as the On trade.
6. With the loss of the Threshers / Wine Rack stores for the bottled market are there any potential customers in
this growing sector such as Co-op, Budgens etc?SIBA is always alert to any opportunity, but there are no
ongoing discussions currently. The research conducted last year showed multiple retailers concentrating on low
prices for consumers suffering in a recession. This is a very difficult tide to turn, even for SIBA!
Ascot Ales
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APPENDIX III
To: All those participating in the Celebration of Beers from the London & The South East of England Regions
Tuesday 30th November 2010
Beers Offered
I have some information but could you please look at your entry and let me have quantities and styles of beer you will be
providing if this information is missing. Also whether bottled , polypin or cask. Could I also ask please that you forward
tasting notes to me as CAMRA will be compiling these for guests information on the day.
Beer delivery arrangements
Robert Wicks of the Westerham Brewery has very kindly offered to drive the consignment of beer over to Brussels. Can
you please ensure you beer is delivered to
The Westerham Brewery Co
Grange Farm
Pootings Road
Crockham Hill
Edenbridge
Kent TN8 6SA
T: 01732 864427
BY NOON ON MONDAY 29TH NOVEMBER AT THE VERY LATEST. Please also ensure that you supply a delivery note
marked “ British Beer Club in the European Parliament – Brussels Presentation”.
Hotels
I have block booked rooms in 3 hotels as follows: Stanhope
Crowne Plaza
Sabina
240 Euros excl breakfast
194 Euros incl breakfast
80 Euros single
90 Euros Double (incl breakfast)
1 room available
2 rooms available
6 single available 4 double available
For those who are attending and don’t have a booking listed on my table could you let me know asap which hotel you
would like to stay in. Once booked in I will let you have addresses and phone nos. for the hotel of your choice.
Mobile nos
Please let me have your mobile no. if I haven’t entered it on the table.
Kind regards
Marietta
PA to Robert Humphreys (07831270244)
All-Party Parliamentary Beer Group
And British Beer Club in the European Parliament
01547 520724
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APPENDIX IV – Nigel’s take on the current state of the malt industry.
Evening Eddie- Reference the Malt/Barley Market the key issues are of course primarily in Russia where the
fires have led to Putin putting a block on Export. There has been heavy flooding in Czech Republic and
Pakistan. In Contrast the UK could have done with some more rain earlier in the season. Denmark and
Germany more than ideal. We need to analyse the UK harvest however to get a clearer picture and as yet, it is
not in!
In June the UK crop outlook still looked reasonable but due to lack of rain allied to less UK plantings in 2009 for
both Wheat and Barley, the above picture has changed the scenario quickly!
Until the crop is in, it is difficult to be to specific but I understand that Spring barleys are not of the same
quality as Winters..
In August, Wheat markets rose rapidly- partly due to the futures markets driving them up.( Investment here
must look pretty attractive in comparison to other area’s of investment over the last year. ) These did ease
recently but are still high. These market figures do not give a completely accurate picture of the true situation
but are a good guide.
If bread is looking to go up 20p a large loaf in the UK (It has already seen a 20% increase in Moscow)..then you
would expect Barley price’s to go up.
Recent market information suggests Spot winter Barley prices at £150mt against Springs at £160mt. I was
informed today that some Malting barley was being quoted as high as £185mt against £120-150mt last year
(depending upon contracted and spot price’s paid) Feed £10mt less .
However farmers are not selling because they are holding out for higher prices and Maltsters are loath to buy,
hoping that prices fall if the global harvest provides us with the volumes we require. Some Malting barley is
being sold as Feed because Feed prices are firm and higher than expected and farmers are cashing in now. This
is a concern because Malting Barley could be in great demand.
With Feed largely bought , Malting prices may start to rise again!
There was some raw material carried over from 2009 in the UK but in the context of a Global Market-Malting
Barley accounts for just 1% of the World Cereal crop. This will have little, if no effect on pricing looking ahead.
Muntons may have a small volume of Maris Otter carried over and with Otter being grown under contract, this
will help keep price increases to a minimum in the Micro Brewing Sector.
Otter contract prices were over £200mt last year and with yields likely to be down- they are expected to
remain the same and may go up this year.
Population growth, fewer plantings, Bio fuels factories swallowing up to hundreds of thousands tonnes of
Wheat per annum.. this all puts the World markets under increasing pressure.
Muntons have long standing relationship with their suppliers and are confident we can meet our customers
demands on quality and required volumes.
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I hope this is of some help. I apologise for not being able to attend in person. I am already committed to other
meetings.
Nigel Gibbons
UK Micro Brewing Sales Manager
Muntons Plc
The Cedars Maltings
Stowmarket
IP14 2AG
Mob Tel-07979-537763
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Appendix V
Existing Provisionals (since AGM) waiting to become full members: Green have attended a
meeting
Green have attended a meeting
Red need to be at the next meeting (assuming you have quarterly meetings)
Purple aren’t effected by provisional status, but should still be encouraged to attend
Crossed out provisionals-not yet brewing, have started brewing and will appear further down the list
South East
23.04.2009
HENSTING BREWERY (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
01962 777219
rebecca@henstingbrewery.co.uk
REBECCA CRAWFORD
HILL VIEW FARM, HENSTING LANE, OWSLEBURY, WINCHESTER,
HAMPSHIRE, SO21 1LE
23.04.2009
NITTEL GmbH & Co.KG
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
0049 614294670
michael.grosse-bley@nittel.com
MICHAEL GROSSE-BLEY
KELSTERBACHER STR 18, D-65479 RAUNHEIM, GERMANY
06.05.2009
mybrewerytap.com
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
01372 379298
ed@mybrewerytap.com
ED TURNER
16 ST MARYS ROAD, LEATHERHEAD, SURREY, KT22 8EY
14.05.2009
BUFF COAT BREWERY CO LTD ( P )
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07949 565424
david.hewitt05@btinternet.com
DAVID HEWITT
FLAT 2, 4 LEANDER ROAD, LONDON, SW2 2LH
21.05.2009
STUART SMALL (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07817001376 stuartjsmall@gmail.com
STUART SMALL
42 ETON RISE, ETON COLLEGE ROAD, LONDON, NW3 2DF
19.06.2009
TWO BRIDGES BREWERY (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
0 7915540926
service@movinz.com
KEVIN DURKAN
37 ARDLER ROAD, CAVERSHAM, READING, BERKSHIRE, RG4 5AE
01.09.2009
KERNEL BREWERY
FULL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1 - Upgrade
07757552636 evin@thekernelbrewery.com
EVIN O'RIORDAIN
98 DRUID ST, LONDON, SE1 2HQ
14.09.2009
LAVERSTOKE PARK PRODUCE LLP
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER – REOPENED ACCOUNT
01256 772817
vicki@laverstokepark.co.uk
NIGEL CROSS
LAVERSTOKE PARK OFFICE, OVERTON, HANTS, RG25 3DR
14.09.2009
MILLER BRANDS UK/SABMILLER
ASSOCIATE BREWING MEMBER
07917 628556
mike.edwards@millerbrands.co.uk
MIKE EDWARDS
SAB MILLER HOUSE, CHURCH ST WEST, WOKING, SURREY, GU21 6HS
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14.10.2009
ISLE OF WIGHT BREWERY LTD (P)
STEVE MINSHULL
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
01983 821731
steve@islandales.co.uk
ISLAND ALES LTD, DINGLERS FARM, YARMOUTH RD, NEWPORT, ISLE IF
WIGHT, PO30 4LZ
13.11.2009
KERNEL BREWERY (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07757552636 evin@thekernelbrewery.com
EVIN O'RIORDAIN
98 DRUID ST, LONDON, SE1 2HQ
27.11.2009
HOOPERS
PUB ASSOCIATE
02077334797 info@hoopersbar.co.uk
JAMIE HOOPER
28 IVANHOE ROAD, LONDON, SE5 8DH, ,
27.11.2009
01.05.2010)
REDEMPTION BREWING CO LTD (P)
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1 (UPGRADE –
ANDY MOFFAT
UNIT 2 COMPASS WEST IND EST, 33 WEST ROAD, TOTTENHAM,
02088855227 andy.moffat@redemptionbrewing.co.uk
LONDON, N17 0XL
07.01.2010
WANTSUM BREWERY
PROVISIONAL - BREWING LEVEL 1
08450 405980
wantsumbrewery@googlemail.com
JAMES SANDY
UNIT 22 LAKESVIEW INT BUS PARK, SPARROWS WAY, HERSDEN,
CANTERBURY, KENT, CT3 4AL
28.01.2010
FAHNENBRUCK FAHRZEUGBAU GMBH
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
00447735000000
josling@fahnenbruck.com
PETER JOSLING
GRENZSTASSE 211, D-46562 VOERDE, GERMANY
10.02.2010
QUICKLABEL SYSTEMS
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
01628 668836
dstillingfleet@astromed.com
DEREK STILLINGFLEET
11 WHITTLE PARKWAY, SLOUGH, BERKSHIRE, SL1 6DQ
10.02.2010
TONBRIDGE BREWERY (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
01732 366770
paulbournazian@aol.com
PAUL BOURNAZIAN
WHITEOAKS, TUDELEY ROAD, TONBRIDGE, KENT, TN11 0NW
26.02.2010
LEVEL 1
ISLE OF WIGHT BREWERY LTD
STEVE MINSHULL
PROVISIONAL MEMBER–UPGRADE-BREWING MEMBER–
01983 821731
steve@islandales.co.uk
ISLAND ALES LTD, DINGLERS FARM, YARMOUTH RD, NEWPORT, ISLE IF
WIGHT, PO30 4LZ
16.03.2010
CAMDEN TOWN BREWERY (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07961 169048
jasper@camdentownbrewery.com
JASPER CUPPAIDGE
28 HEATH ST, LONDON, NW3 6TE
16.03.2010
FLACK MANOR BREWERY LTD (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
01794 518520
nigel@flackmanor.co.uk
NIGEL WELSH
8 ROMSEY IE, GREATBRIDGE ROAD, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 0HR
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16.03.2010
HYPOTECH LTD
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
0845 5190901
daniel.spacie@hypotech.co.uk
DAN SPACIE
LANDGUARD MANOR, LANDGUARD ROAD, SHANKLIN, PO37 7JB
16.03.2010
OLD DAIRY BREWERY LTD
FULL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
01580 243185
edward.wray@olddairybrewery.com
EDWARD WRAY
THE OLD PARLOUR, RAWLINSON FARM, ROLVENDEN,CRANBROOK,
KENT, TN17 4JA
16.03.2010
ROYAL TUNBRIDGE WELLS BREW (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07824662438 simon@royaltunbridgewellsbrewing.co.uk
SIMON LEWIS
SPA BREWERY, 18H CHAPMAN WAY, HIGH BROOMS, ROYAL TUNBRIDGE
WELLS, TN2 3EF
16.03.2010
UPGRADE FROM PROV.
TONBRIDGE BREWERY
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
PAUL BOURNAZIAN
WHITEOAKS, TUDELEY ROAD, TONBRIDGE, KENT, TN11 0NW
15.04.2010
UPGRADE
WINDSOR AND ETON BREWERY
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
PADDY JOHNSON
1 VANSITTART ESTATE, WINDSOR, BERKSHIRE, SL4 1SE
27.11.2009
01.05.2010)
REDEMPTION BREWING CO LTD
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1 (UPGRADE –
ANDY MOFFAT
UNIT 2 COMPASS WEST IND EST, 33 WEST ROAD, TOTTENHAM,
01732 366770
-
paulbournazian@aol.com
-
07767310005 paddy.johnson@webrew.co.uk
02088855227 andy.moffat@redemptionbrewing.co.uk
LONDON, N17 0XL
26.04.2010 – date reflects 1st brew
Upgrade
ROYAL TUNBRIDGE WELLS BREW
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
-
SIMON LEWIS
SPA BREWERY, 18H CHAPMAN WAY, HIGH BROOMS, ROYAL TUNBRIDGE
07824662438 simon@royaltunbridgewellsbrewing.co.uk
WELLS, TN2 3EF
01.05.2010
UPHAM BREWERY
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
01489 860959
cjmcmillan736@btinternet.com
ANDY BURDON
STAKES FARM, CROSS LANE, BISHOPS WALTHAM, HAMPSHIRE, SO32 1FL
01.05.2010
HENSTING BREWERY
FULL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1 - Upgrade
01962 777219
rebecca@henstingbrewery.co.uk
REBECCA CRAWFORD
HILL VIEW FARM, HENSTING LANE, OWSLEBURY, WINCHESTER,
HAMPSHIRE, SO21 1LE
12.05.2010
FLACK MANOR BREWERY LTD
FULL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1 - UPGRADE
01794 518520
nigel@flackmanor.co.uk
NIGEL WELSH
8 ROMSEY IE, GREATBRIDGE ROAD, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 0HR
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20.05.2010
BINGHAMS BREWERY LTD (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
07780 600606
chris@binghams.co.uk
CHRIS BINGHAM
C/O 81 COLLETON DRIVE, TWYFORD, BERKSHIRE, RG10 0AX
10.06.2010
ITCHEN VALLEY BREWERY LTD
CHANGE CONTACT
01962 735111
RICHARD ROBINSON
UNIT D PROSPECT COMM PARK, PROSPECT RD, NEW ALRESFORD, HANTS,
info@itchenvalley.com
SO24 9QF
17.06.2010
DARK STAR BREWING CO LTD
CHANGE ADDRESS
01403713085 sales@darkstarbrewing.co.uk
ROB JONES
22 STAR ROAD, PARTRIDGE GREEN, WEST SUSSEX, RH13 8RA
17.06.2010
19.08.2010
MOULSHAM BREWING CO (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING – closed
NIGEL SADLER
C/O THE STAR & GARTER, 159 MOULSHAM ST, CHELMSFORD, ESSEX,
07798764198 moulshambrewing@aol.co.uk
CM2 0LD
14.07.2010
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
BOTLEY BREWERY
07830 369573
ANDY INGRAM
THE OLD COOPERAGE, THE SQUARE, BOTLEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO30 2EA
14.07.2010
W J KING & CO
NEW OWNERS
01403 272102
IAN BURGESS/NIGEL LAMBE
3 - 5 JUBILEE ESTATE, FOUNDRY LANE, HORSHAM, WEST SUSSEX, RH13
charliedabubble@hotmail.co.uk
office@kingfamilybrewers.co.uk
5UE
21.07.2010
WHITE'S BREWERY LTD
PROVISIONAL BREWING MEMBER – LEVEL 1
01424 731066
vikki.boundy@brewmad.com
VIKKI BOUNDY
PEBSHAM FARM IND ESTATE, PEBSHAM FARM, BEXHILL ON SEA, EAST
SUSSEX, TN40 2RZ
19.08.2010
17.06.2010 Closed
MOULSHAM BREWING CO (P)
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING – Opened
NIGEL SADLER
C/O THE STAR & GARTER, 159 MOULSHAM ST, CHELMSFORD, ESSEX,
07798764198 moulshambrewing@aol.co.uk
CM2 0LD
02.09.2010
SIMMER DESIGN LTD
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
08456 446608
anthony@croglinbrewery.co.uk
RICHARD REEVES
STUDIO 1, 39 LARKHALL RISE, LONDON, SW4 6HU
17.09.2010
GOODY ALES (P)
KAREN GOODY
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
02088789879 dawn@zigzaglighting.co.uk
24 WEST PARK AVE, RICHMOND, SURREY, TW9 4AL
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17.09.2010
HASTINGS BREWERY LTD (P)
PETE MASON
TN34 1HL
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
01424 205437
pete@hastingsbrewery.co.uk
CREATIVE MEDIA CENTRE, 45 ROBERTSON ST, HASTINGS, ,
24.09.2010
SUPPLIER ASSOCIATE MEMBER
HCT CREATIVE LTD
LEE HETHERINGTON
01256 884555 lee@hctcreative.com
08.10.2010
CHANGE OF ADDRESS
BUFF COAT BREWERY CO LTD ( P )
07949 565424 david.hewitt05@btinternet.com
DAVID HEWITT
40 MARCONI RPAD, CHELMSFORD, ESSEX, CM1 1QD
15.10.2010
PROVISIONAL MEMBER – NOT YET BREWING
BLACK CAT BREWERY (P)
MARCUS HOWES
01892 860659 marcus.howes@virgin.net
STOCKS BARN, MINCHENS LANE, BRAMLEY, HAMPSHIRE, RG26 5BH
TOP LODGE, ERIDGE ROAD, GROOMBRIDGE, TUNBRIDGE WELLS, KENT, TN3
9NJ
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