Appendix B - BERWICK STREET MARKET PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS – S6 CONSULTATION – Summary of Responses
received
Name and address of
respondent
Mark Teverson (Chair)
Berwick Street
Community Group
9 Berwick Street
W1F 0PJ
020 7437 1223
Date
Comments made
24/01/14
The general improvements are welcome.
Over recent years there has been a dramatic increase
in the amount of traffic, particularly bicycles, riding in
the market before 9pm Mon-Sat. This is of great
concern and a hazard to the elderly and disabled.
Previously, the market supervisor has ensured the
gates at the Broadwick Street end were closed, but
these have now been removed.
www.foundrysoho.com
Charity Charity
26/01/14
charity__charity@hotmail.
com
Your plan makes no note of gates, or any other
physical method to make it clear that no traffic is
permitted on this stretch of Berwick Street in the
restricted hours. For pedestrians to have to look left
and right whilst buying their fruit and veg seems
unreasonable, and the council must ensure our safety
The scheme looks promising, two points to raise:
1. If you extended the proposed carriageway granite
setts across Peter St so that Berwick St connected
with Walker's Court, you would be making a long and
delightful paved walkway all the way from Broadwick
St through Rupert St which adjoins and is cobbled.
2. Please consider a bollard at the corner of Peter St
and Berwick St. The corner glass window has already
been knocked by a lorry.
Matthew Bennett
Soho Society
matthewbennett27@btinte
rnet.com
28/01/14
Hopes that the proposals fit with the aspirations of
market holders as their experience is important.
Only comment is that the number of gullies to be
provided in the newly repaved section of street seems
Officer response
The gates have not been removed and are closed by the
Market manager daily. However, the designer proposes
replacing the gates with 3 removable & lockable Cannon
type bollards at the northern end of the market near the
Broadwick Street junction.
The hours of operation are to be reviewed to better meet
the needs of the market.
Other issues related to cycling on pedestrianised streets
are being considered as part of the Cycling Strategy,
which has just completed consultation.
1. The designer agrees that this part could be laid with
granite setts. At this current time the raised carriageway
on Peter Street will remain asphalt as it is expected to be
heavily used by construction traffic redeveloping Walker’s
Court. Therefore it is proposed to consider any changes
in this part of Peter Street in with any proposals for public
realm coming forward from that development.
2. The designer would not recommend installing a bollard
at this location as it would obstruct pedestrians when the
street is open to traffic and add to street clutter.
The design reflects the views and feedback of the local
Market Development Group who are appreciative of the
provision of power and water for the market as a first
point. The shared surface being a practical approach to
improving the pedestrian environment. All our proposed
Name and address of
respondent
Date
Comments made
Officer response
very inadequate. There are none on the West side
fronting the Kemp House block and very few with
large gaps between them on the East.
materials are in line with the Westminster Way.
A large paved area like this will need good drainage
and graded falls to cope with flash flooding resulting
from the heavy downpours of rain we now experience.
In addition by introducing at least 2 new water points
for use of stall holders I think it would be sensible to
make gully provision close by to each to deal with any
spillages and misuse which could have an adverse
effect on those parts of the pavement.
The designer confirms that the drainage design for the
revised Berwick Street scheme, has been based upon the
following:
The impermeable area for Berwick Street has not been
increased.
The footway levels along Berwick Street have been
designed with regard to ensuring that the surface water
will flow to the eastern kerb/channel line.
The crossfall gradients from pavement in front of Kemp
House to the eastern kerb/channel line are a minimum of
1:40.
The locations of the gullies along the eastern kerb /
channel line have been adjusted to suit the longsection
falls and gradients on Berwick Street, to ensure they are
picking up all drainage from the catchment areas.
The detailed design will ensure that the water points are
located to take account of crossfall gradients to ensure no
ponding occurs.
Tim Lord
+44 7515 910771
16 Broadwick Street
timlord@mac.com
10/02/14
&
12/02/14
I am very concerned about the proposals and wish to
object strongly to them.
A similar scheme for semi pedestrianisation was
implemented in Old Compton Street a few years ago.
It led to increased crime, pick pocketing, loutish
behaviour and late night noise and drinking. I am
therefore surprised that the scheme for Berwick Street
has been suggested.
Replacing the tarmac with paving creates confusion
as to the right of way between cars and pedestrians.
To the extent it creates a wider area for groups of
people of congregate and drink so therefore
concerned about:
There will be no change to the status of the street. The
street is already pedestrianised in market hours, then the
street opens to traffic when trading has finished. Vehicles
will be using the street after market hours and parking will
continue to be allowed on the single yellow line.
The level surface proposed recognises the streets status
as a market, providing a step free pedestrian environment
for when the market is in operation. The shared surface is
required to accommodate proposals for a new stall layout
for the market. The proposed stall layout will mean that
the existing footway width on the eastern side would be
inadequate during market hours, and therefore the shared
surface will provide the additional pedestrian space
needed to make that layout work.
Name and address of
respondent
Date
Comments made
Officer response
Noise, pickpocketing, and a magnet for drug dealing in
crowds.
The proposal will also place power into the market by way
Concern about the pubs appropriating the road as well of bollards on the western footway (Kemp House side),
as pavement (Blue Posts & Endurance)
which will provide a barrier between pedestrians and
vehicle traffic when the street opens to traffic in the
Concern about noise from creating a pedestrian
evenings and on Sundays
corridor.
The surfaces are currently proposed to be granite in
Concern about aesthetic impact - Moving from the
reflection of the need for this street to ‘work hard’ as a
existing surface to a pedestrianised paved area will
market. There is differentiation between the materials
make it look like a suburban shopping centre which in used on the footway and the carriageway to make the
my view is completely out of character for Soho. A
distinction between the two.
street market should look like a market that is
operated in a street and then removed in the evening
However, in terms of the issues raised about aesthetic
with the street retaining the look of a street.
impact and also the council emerging Soho Public Realm
Study, it has been agreed to review the proposed
Purpose not linked to the proposal - In my view any
materials again internally as part of detailed design and
investment would be better spent on encouraging
feedback will be given.
better shops and stalls, and signage - not on repaving.
A meeting on site has taken place between officers and
Mr Tim Lord (26/02/2014). His concerns about noise and
Concern about inadequate consultation.
licensed premises in the vicinity will be raised with
premises licensing.