California Community Colleges Nursing Advisory Committee
Meeting Minutes
March 4, 2014
Date:
Location:
March 4, 2015
U.S. Grant
326 Broadway
San Diego, CA 92101
Time:
1:00pm—5:00pm
Project Director: Sue Albert
Recorder: Becky Miller
Members: Sue Albert, Chair; Brenda Fong, CCCCO Nursing & Allied Health; Linda Zorn, Health Care Initiative; Renee Ketchum, Chafee College; Lurelean Gaines, East Los
Angeles College; Debbie Yaddow, Grossmont College; Sally Scofield, Ohlone College; Tammy Rice, Saddleback College; Debbie Berg, San Diego City College; Becky Miller,
Santa Ana College; Michelle Gottwald, Santa Barbara College; Ida Danzey, Santa Monica; Sandy Comstock, Mira Costa College; Anna Valdez, Santa Rosa College; Karen
Cowell, Antelope Valley College; Sandy Baker, Riverside City College; Connie _____, Chabot College; Julie _____ San Joaquin Delta College
Agenda Item
Networking
Welcome and review of agenda
Review-Approve Minutes –
September 30, 2014
Introductions
Chancellor’s Office Report
ATI Update
Action/Discussion
Sue Albert called meeting to order. She welcomed everyone and explained the 3CNAC members and role of 3CNAC for the audience
members. Each member introduced self and the college affiliation.
Minutes of the September 30, 2014 meeting were approved unanimously.
Brenda Fong: 1. Letter of Intent for the Enrollment Growth and Retention grants for 2015/2016 were due last week. The packet for the
budget documentation is forthcoming. As this is 2 year funding, it is likely that schools will receive the same amount of funding as
2014/2015. Some schools have the Enrollment Growth grant, some the Retention grant, and some both depending on request and
retention rate. Staff update – Njeri Griffin has been moved to Academic Affairs. Therefore, Brenda is the only person in the grants for
Nursing. If you have any questions, email Brenda; she is the monitor for both grants. Dr. Noden is Interim Vice Chancellor for Student
Services. Jeff Spano is in Institutional Effectiveness Division. Jeanine Clemens is retiring this month.
2. Budget 2015/2016 – Looking good for next year with $13.5 million being the same. Need to wait for the May revise; for Career Tech
and Adult Education, all indications point to a good budget for next year.
3. Bachelor’s degree at the Community College – Board of Governors to confirm 14 schools in mid-March. Currently, visiting the
schools and checking with CSU and UC for duplication.
4. Taskforce of Doing What Matters is in Phase 2 for Regional Town Hall Meetings as well as meetings with faculties. Linda Zorn will
forward a compilation of the meetings. In Phase 3, 5 areas will be the focus: workforce data, curriculum and instruction instructors,
structure and student services, funding, and regional coordination.
5. Brenda’s office is moving from the 3rd floor to the 6th floor.
6. AB548 – Multi-criteria for admission: This is for Nursing only, not Allied Health. There is not enough data from Nursing to
encourage legislators to allow Allied Health programs to utilize the multi-criteria. It is illegal to use it if the program is not a Registered
Nursing program. The multi-criteria can be used for advanced-placed students in an RN program. Brenda will confirm it can be used for
advanced-placed students.
Santa Miller, VP of Solutions, and Michelle Dunham, Psychometrician, presented ATI update regarding TEAS test. Between January 1,
2011 and June 30, 2014, there were 22,345 tests studied. The question is whether there are students who have been admitted because
they met the benchmark but they fail/drop out (false positive) versus students who were denied admission but would have been able to
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Agenda Item
HWI
Roundtable
Action/Discussion
pass (false negative). If attrition is higher in program, set the cut score higher. Findings: 62.6% as a cut score does not get much for the
higher expense of the number of prospective students who would not be able to enter. At 64.6%, findings showed attrition dropped.
Executive summary will be compiled and sent. Recommendation: continue with current 62% as the cut score.
Linda Zorn: 1. SB 1309, allows faculty to teach clinical 4 semesters out of 6; has been extended through June 2015. Will not be pursuing
continuation because very few schools utilize it, due either to their Human Resource Departments not allowing it or the Affordable Care
Act requirements.
2. CINCH possibly becoming Health Impact. AB 1295 collaboratives for ADN to BSN from community colleges to CSU need to be
tracked but unclear as to who is doing this. Discussion of best way to assess this resulted in Linda to send survey to check. Discussed
which schools are involved (including private): Chamberlain College of Nursing, University of Phoenix, Walden University, CSU
Dominguez Hills, CSU Fullerton, CSU San Marcos, CSU East Bay, Sonoma State, Arizona State, and University of Texas at Arlington.
3. Nursing Education Re-design – through CINHC, 50 thought leaders are convening to update the 2008 White Paper. Discussion that
conference call should occur prior to the thought leaders meeting. Linda will arrange. Thought leaders include Sandy Baker, Tammy
Rice, Ida Danzy, Stephanie Robertson, Sandy Comstock, and Louise Bailey. New priorities in updating nursing education for discussion
– competent clinical instructors at the bedside and not PhD-ivory tower, BRN simulation amount, peds, fair and equitable use of clinical
placement by all levels, community placement supervision, more faculty with nursing education in their background, future of ADN and
focus (if you cannot get a job without a BSN and cannot get into a BSN program, how do you keep your skills and enter the job market),
provide education to clinical instructors. Discussion of the future of ADN – should the conversation be directed to an ADN graduate
required to obtain a BSN within 5 years and have all pre-licensure at community colleges and all BSN at the university level, thus
creating a constant stream of students for the universities and opening clinical placements for community colleges.
4. HWI has CDs regarding clinical instruction available. HWI received funding to develop “soft skills” curriculum.
Mira Costa – New President. BRN and ACEN site visits next year. Lot of applications.
Saddleback – Fewer applications due to TEAS and multi-criteria. Attrition improved and different kind of student who is entitled. Lost
peds site due to BSN school. Faculty hiring underway. Institutionalized simulation tech. Curriculum update coming and with
intraprofessional activities. Tammy is retiring December 31, 2015.
Santa Ana – ACEN visit 2 weeks ago. NCLEX scores at 72%. Major curriculum change coming and changing to concept-based
curriculum with implementation Fall 2016. Two nursing positions now closed; had 9-10 applicants for each.
Chabot – One FT med/surg (only 3 applicants last time). Multi-criteria process has been in use for 3 years and attrition is better but
applications are less; they are doing better in theory but less better in clinical.
Ohlone – Major curriculum change from Roy to Caring Science model. Decrease in applications. Three FT vacancies for 3 years
(college rationing). Difficulty placing preceptors due to hospital hires.
LA Community College District – All looking for med/surg, one for psych faculty. Finding that nurses applying for the positions want to
keep their FT hospital jobs. Difficult to get positions in priority at college. Two hospitals allowing only 8 students/cohort. Some
hospitals requesting students with second language. LACCD still continues with 7 programs.
Santa Monica – Curriculum change forthcoming. Multi-criteria tried for first time; there were fewer applications. Attrition was 32%.
Found those with overall GPA 3.1 and sciences under 2.6 dropped/failed and those who passed had overall 3.2 and 2.7 for science.
Ida reported for Glendale – curriculum change forthcoming.
Ida reported for El Camino – interim Director.
Chaffee – Two new Deans. College prioritizing who to hire; Nursing needed 1; there were 20 hires and Nursing was not among them.
There are union issues related to assignment. Many hospitals requiring cohorts of 8. Had 150 applications with GPA 2.8 to choose 40.
Antelope Valley – BRN site visit Tuesday and Wednesday. Multi-criteria applications taken but not yet chosen. Karen Cowell is retiring
December 31, 2015.
College of the Canyons – Looking for Director.
Grossmont – Looking for President. Looking for Director (Debbie Yaddow is Dean). Has established connection with Point Loma.
San Diego City – Trying for Point Loma. Has CSU San Marcos.
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Agenda Item
New Director Orientation
Adjournment
Action/Discussion
San Joaquin Delta – CNAs in hospital. Hired 4 new faculty. One position just closed. Has acting Director.
Riverside City - Hospitals are saying bachelor’s nurses are not staying and, therefore, hire an ADN. University of Phoenix is 30 units,
gives 20% and, therefore, about $12,000.
Santa Rosa – Applications decreased from 400-500 down to about 300 for 125 spaces. Attrition rate is 3%. Students seem very entitled.
Major curriculum change to add QSEN and test plan and away from Orem. Hoping for 2 FT next year. Last year had 2 qualified
applicants.
Santa Barbara – Looking for new Director; Michelle Gottwald is stepping down. Going to multi-criteria. Curriculum change
forthcoming. One hospital in town; trying for Magnet but decided to against it. Hiring BSN but some ADN.
Tammy Rice and Sue Albert presented orientation and distributed handbook.
Sue Albert adjourned the meeting.
Next meeting: April 30th in Sacramento.
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