Vicki Nunery Hittle
Harry Pettibone
vnunery@ccs.k12.in.us
hpettibo@ccs.k12.in.us
College & Career Resource Center
Powerpoint on CHS website, Video on Channel 99
Gold SRT Days
Personal Appointments
College Files
Books
 Insider’s Guide to Colleges
 Fiske Guide to Colleges
 Colleges that Change Lives
Acceptance Book
Programs
Financial Aid Night
November 16
6:30 pm Freshman Cafeteria
College Information for Juniors (during SRT)
March 2 and March 12
Internet Exploration
Individual College Website
College Board--www.collegeboard.com
College Search Matchmaker
Suggested Timelines/Articles--www.inlikeme.com
College Forum—www.collegeconfidential.com
See Handout for Additional Sites
Personal Exploration
Campus Visits
College Representatives at CHS
College Fairs
National College Fair
Tuesday, October 11
Indiana Convention Center
Greater Indianapolis College Fair
Date TBA-usually in April at the Ritz Charles.
Summer Jobs
Shadowing
Career Testing
 Counseling Department
 Private Testing
Internship Course at CHS
What Do Colleges Consider?
Grades
 Upward Trend
 Cumulative GPA
 Importance of Junior Year Grades
 Senior Grades Count
Course Selection
 Solid Core Subjects
 AP’s and Honors
Rigor with Reality
What Do Colleges Consider?
Facebook or Google
Extra Curricular Activities
Continuity
Level of commitment
No Ranking
Distinguished Grad
SAT
Take Twice
• January or March Junior Year
• May or June of Junior Year
• Fall Senior Year if Necessary
3 Parts--Critical Reading, Math, Writing
• 2400 Perfect Score
• Send Score to CHS
Register
www.collegeboard.com
SAT Prep Offerings
Is It Worth It?
CHS Course
 Info In Counseling Department
Computer Programs
Professional Programs
 Princeton Review
Private Tutors
Freebies
SAT Averages (3 Sections-2400)
Carmel 1672
• 550 critical reading, 576 math, 546 writing
Indiana
1483
National 1509
Other Carmel Statistics
• 50 Semi-Finalists
• 2 National Achievement Semi-finalists
ACT
Composite Score
36 is perfect score
Will use best score
Superscore
Register at www.actstudent.org
SAT
www.collegeboard.com
• Aptitude Based
• Vocabulary
• Subjects: Critical reading, Math, Writing
• Math thru Algebra II
Versus
ACT
www.actstudent.org
• Curriculum Based
• Grammar
• Subjects: English, Math, Reading,
Science, optional Writing
• Math thru Trig
Carmel High School Code
150445
Admission Terms and Dates
Rolling Admissions—do early fall
Regular Admissions
Early Decision
Early Action
Decision Deadline - May 1
Financial Aid Deadlines
College Go Week – Apply Free (September 26-30, 2011)
FAFSA
Free Application for Federal Student Aid
fafsa.gov. FREE
Basis Of All Need Based Aid & Some Merit
Everyone Complete Annually
Available January 1, DEADLINE March 10
State and College Financial Aid Deadlines may be earlier
Fafsa4caster
College Goal Sunday Feb 12, 2012
FAFSA
Estimated Family Contribution
Types of Aid
• Federal Work-Study
• Grants & Scholarships
• Loans--Federal, State
Financial Aid Tips
Investigate early-12 months
Respect deadlines
Use previous year’s info on FAFSA
Apply even if you think not qualify
Unsubsidized Stafford 6.8%
Several Thousand $$ per Year
Negotiate with facts and numbers
Financial Aid
Merit Aid
 Marketing Tool
 Be in Top of Applicant Pool
 Top of Heap vs. Up and Coming
Discounting
 No Sticker Price
 Don’t know till end of process
 Compare at www.collegeboard.com
Up And Coming Schools With Good Merit Aid
Hanover
 Most receive Merit Scholarship
Franklin
 3.0 GPA 1600 SAT (3 parts) $8500-$10000
 2.7 GPA 1400 SAT
$6000-$8500
Millkin (Illinois)
 No SAT or GPA consideration Talent Scholarships
 Strong Music Theater Program
 Entrance 3.0 GPA 1065 SAT
 Automatic merit $7,000 - $17,000
Financial Aid and Scholarships
Websites
Scholarship Board
Self nomination
Clubs and Organizations
Money Savers
Combined Degrees
• Bachelors & Masters
AP’s & Dual Credit & IB
Summer School at Community College
Community College
ROTC or National Guards
Service Academies
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Ivy Tech Community College
23 Campuses Statewide
More Affordable
 IU is $3860 for 15 credit hours
 Ivy Tech $1617 for 15 credit hours
Transfer
 2 + 2 Option
 Courses transfer to State Schools
Indiana University
Seniors 4-5 academic courses
Must have Core 40
One semester math beyond Algebra II, 7th semester math
course must be Trig, Pre-Calc or Calc
A’s & B’s
C’s - When received, what course
Academic Courses most important
Rigor with reality
Use weighted GPA
Upward Trend or Steady
CHS Stats: IU
Number of Students Denied Admission with a 3.0-3.5 GPA:
2008 (14) 2009 (24) 2010 (31)
Number of Students Accepted with a 3.0-3.5 GPA (2009):
3.0 (18) 3.1 (16) 3.2 (25) 3.3 (71)
Number of Students Accepted with a 3.0-3.5 GPA (2010):
3.0 (14)
3.1 (15) 3.2 (25) 3.3 (30)
3.4 (40)
CHS STATS: IU
CHS Minimum SAT Admitted: 1050-1060
IU Says: 1020 CR and Math or 22 or 23 ACT
GPA Match SAT Score
Deferred indicators
Lower GPA with Higher SAT
Higher GPA with Lower SAT
Increased emphasis on SAT score
Letter of Explanation
IU Kelley School Of Business
Direct Admit as Freshman
 1270 SAT or 29 ACT, 3.7 GPA
Sophomore Admit
B in course work
Take 4 required courses
 Includes W131 at CHS
One of top 10 by US News & World Report
IU Strong Programs
Music- Top 10
Business- Top 10
Research University- Top 25
Life Sciences
School of Education
IU Financial Aid
Total Cost for one year: $22,150
 November 1 deadline for full merit aid consideration
 21st Century Scholars Program
 IU Groups
 www.scholarships.indiana.edu
IU Automatic Scholarships
3.7 GPA and 27 ACT or 1220 SAT
3.8 GPA and 30 ACT or 1340 SAT
$4,000/year
$9,000/year
Purdue Admissions
Apply to 1 of the 11 colleges within Purdue
Admit, Deny, or Pending Additional Information
December 9, Initial Release of Decisions
Nov 15, Consideration for Purdue Scholarships
Four Years of Math
CHS Stats: Purdue Colleges
More Difficult Colleges
Management
Pre-Pharmacy
Nursing
Engineering
GPA
3.3
3.6
3.6
3.2
Less Difficult Colleges
GPA
Science
3.0
Liberal Arts
3.0
Education
3.0
Undergraduate Studies Program
3.0
School of Agriculture
3.0
*If denied first choice college:
Call to request reconsideration to another college
Must submit new information
Purdue
Undergraduate Studies Program (USP)
Benefits
Four Year Graduation Rate not Effected by Starting in
USP
USP Advisors Have Approx. 150 Students
Academic and Career Planning Course
Purdue Strong Programs
School of Management #21
College of Technology
College of Engineering #8
#2 in hiring (Wall Street Journal)
Hospitality & Tourism #1
Apparel & Design Technology
Pharmacy #9
Nursing
Purdue Financial Aid
$22,750
No Automatic Scholarships
15% of Incoming Freshmen Receive Merit Scholarships
Top Merit & College Scholarships
Essay Important-Why Purdue!
Ball State
Average Academic GPA Admitted: 3.3
 3.0 in core classes
Average SAT Admitted1600
 BSU looks at all three sections
Average ACT Admitted 23
Ball State Strong Programs
Telecommunications & Journalism -top in state & 45 nationally
Education
Architecture #5
Entrepreneurship-top 10
Landscape Architecture-top 11
Nursing
Special Immersive Learning Program
Ball State Financial Aid
$19,000
Automatic Scholarships
 3.5 core unweighted; 1750 SAT/26 ACT
 Approximately ½ tuition
86% get merit or need based aid
Core 3.5 GPA minimum for merit
CHS Stats: Ball State
CHS Minimum 2.7 GPA
CHS Minimum SAT slightly below 1000
Honors College
Must Apply
3.5 Academic GPA
 1700 SAT
IUPUI
$15,700 (tuition, room & board)
Minimum Admission:
 Core 40 Diploma (with Academic Honors Preferred)
 IUPUI Honors College 3.75 GPA and 1250 SAT
CHS Average Admission:
 Average CHS Admission GPA 3.25
 Average CHS SAT 1140
 Average CHS ACT 25
IUPUI Strong Programs
IUPUI Honors College
Kelley School of Business
Nursing
Herron School of Art and Design
Physical Education &
Tourism
Engineering
Informatics
Journalism (Sports Journ.)
Public Health
*Note: Students can combine pre-med, pre-dentistry, pre-PT, pre-law with almost any of
IUPUI’s 200 undergraduate majors.
IUPUI AUTOMATIC SCHOLARSHIPS
$8000/4yrs 3.75 and 1250 SAT/27 ACT
$4000/4yrs 3.5 and 1200 SAT/26 ACT
$1,000/3yrs Academic Honors Diploma
1150
SAT/25 ACT 3.25
Indiana State University
$18,000
ISU Minimum 2.5
CHS Minimum 2.0
SAT 850-1000
Summer Honors Program
ISU Strong Programs
Athletic Training-National Program
Aviation
Information Technology
Nursing
Motor Sports-business
Music Business
Indiana State University
Automatic Scholarships
3.7 & 1100 ACT 25
$2000/yr (also put in competition for
several $17,000 and $5,000 scholarships)
3.5 & 1000 ACT 20
$1500/yr
3.3 & no SAT req.
$1000/yr
3.0 & no SAT req.
$500/yr
3.0 & core 40 diploma
free laptop
University Of Southern IN
$13,500 –Least expensive state school
2.5 GPA
Automatic Scholarships
 3.5 GPA and higher receive $500 to full tuition based on test
scores
Medical Scholarship
 3.5 GPA and 1200 SAT /27 ACT –six full tuition scholarships
 Provisional Seat to IU Medical School
University Of Southern IN
Strong Programs
Creative writing (Scholarship opportunities)
Theater (Scholarship opportunities)
Art Therapy
Nursing
Business
Education
Vincennes University
$13,000
Two-Year College, but offers Six Bachelor Degrees
Residential Campus
Open Door Admissions
Vincennes University
Homeland security bachelor degree
Nursing 2.7 GPA
Secondary Science Education
Special Education
Secondary Math Education
Technology
Notre Dame
$53,000 Best Deal
80% not paying full price
5/18 CHS Students, 4.0 and up, above 2000 SAT, 32-33 ACT
Strong Points
 Business College
 Government & Political Science
 Meet 100% demonstrated financial need
 Limited Merit Aid
DePauw
$45,000-Best Deal
CHS 49/58 accepted
3.1-3.2 GPA
1150 SAT
Five Fellowship/Distinction Programs
Strong Programs
 Liberal Arts
 Alumni Support
 Greek System
$42,000
WABASH
Meets 100% of Demonstrated Financial Need
US News & World Report Best Value College
 Top 10% at CHS $70,000 (over 4 years)
 Top 20% at CHS $50,000 (over 4 years)
CHS 3.0 GPA
Strong programs
 Pre-med
 Pre-law
 Business
 Dual Engineering Degree with Purdue
Butler
$42280
Strong Programs
 Pharmacy and Physician Assistant
Direct Admit
4.0 1330 SAT 30 ACT
 Engineering Purdue/Butler Degree
 Performing Arts Multiple Areas
 Business
 Education
 100% placement
Butler Lab School
$4228
Hanover
$37,500
CHS Stats: 3.0 GPA, 1050 SAT; All Accepted
Scholarship Base: 3.3, 1020
Top Scholarships: 3.9 GPA, 1300 SAT
Strong Programs
• Liberal Arts
• Environmental Science
Earlham
$46,500
SAT/ACT Test Optional
Merit Scholarships
Diverse Student Body
Strong programs
 Biology/Chemistry
 Psychology
 Peace & Global Studies
 Japanese
100% Med School Acceptance
Franklin College
$33,840
CHS Minimum 3.0 1000 SAT
Generous Financial Aid
Strong Programs
• Journalism
• Athletic Training
• Education
Manchester College
$35,070
 Automatic Scholarships
Fast Forward Program
 4 Year Degree In 3 Years
Employment Guarantee—free year tuition if not employed in 6 months
Strong Majors
 School of Pharmacy opening 2012
 Accounting
 Athletic Training
 Education
Anderson University
$33,000
2.5 GPA; 900 SAT
Automatic Scholarships:
 1050 SAT; 22 ACT, No Minimum GPA $12,000
 1150 SAT; 25 ACT, No Minimum GPA $14,000
 State School Price
Strong Learning Center Services
Kentucky
University of Kentucky--$30,200
51/53 accepted 2.5 GPA CHS
3.3 & 26 ACT = $3,000/1yr
3.3 & 28 ACT= $3,000/4yr
3.75 and 31 ACT=$4500 to Full Tuition/Room and Board (must apply)
Blue Grass Technical Community College
Live on UK Campus
Open Admissions
Eastern Kentucky--$28,000
University of Louisville
3.3 & 26 ACT =$19,500 Total Cost
3.0 and 1170 SAT, Receive In-State Tuition
Ohio
Miami of Ohio
$41,500 Total Cost
Best value /Best college
CHS Minimum 3.1
Automatic Scholarship
ACT 26-27 GPA 3.7
ACT 28-29 GPA 3.7
ACT 30
GPA 3.7
$4500
$7000
$10,000
Business (#7), Education, Zoology
Michigan
Eastern Michigan
3.0 & 950 SAT/20 ACT receive in-state tuition
Grand Valley State
3.5 & 1190 SAT/26 ACT receive in-state tuition
Northern Michigan
$ 22,700 Total Cost
Adrian College
3.9 and 28 ACT = $14,000
3.8 and 26 ACT = $13,000
3.6 and 24 ACT = $11,000
3.3 and 22 ACT = $9,000
University Of Alabama
$33,500
Automatic Scholarships
3.5 1210-1240 SAT 27ACT
$1500/year
3.5 1250-1320 SAT 28-29 ACT
$3500/year
3.5 1330-1390 SAT 30-31 ACT
2/3 tuition/year
Slide Presentation Available
on CHS Website Under the
Counseling Department
Select Schools……….
Select Colleges
CHS Students “Rock”
Expand Your Definition of Select
Best College for you, Not Best College
Know the Stats
Average SAT and Average Grade Point
Know Carmel Statistics
Select School Stats
Yale
2/15
4.4
2300
Harvard
2/20
4.46
2310
Princeton
1/11
4.47
2390
Duke
4/27
4.4
2200
Stanford
4/20
Brown
0/8
Dartmouth
3/16
University of Chicago
4/15
Northwestern
13/41
4.0
Select School Acceptances
American
3/4
Case Western
6/8
Columbia
3/10
Cornell
2/16
Emory
6/10
University of Penn
3/16
Wash U at St. Louis
6/29
Select School Acceptances
Georgetown
3/9
Rice
1/6
Loyola
15/15
University of Michigan
Miami
46/48
Vanderbilt
5/18
DePauw
49/58
Wake Forest
1/3
NY University
4/15
Wabash
9/10
18/28
Admissions Factors
Grades
AP’s & Honors
Compare to other CHS applicants
Area of Interest
CHS Profile
Recommendations
2 Academic, 1 Nonacademic
Supply Information
Good Kid vs. Special Talent Pool
Admission Factors
Standardized Tests
SAT & ACT Test Scores
SAT – Eleven Subject Tests
Math—Junior Year or Fall Senior Year
Others
AP Test Scores
Develop Your Theme
Develop Your Skill
Get Awards & Honors
Positions Of Leadership
Use For Good Of Others
Extensive Resume
Essays
Reflective
Why This College
No One Else Could Write It
Interesting
Don’t Repeat What Is In Application
Prepare during the Summer
Passion Factor
Interview—Be Informed
College Representative at CHS
Campus Visit
Community Event
Email
Types Of Admission
Early Decision
• Approximate Dates-November 1, December 15
• Binding
• Can’t Compare Financial Aid Packages
Early Action
• First In Line For Merit Aid
• Remember the Passion Factor and Show It
Waitlisted
Indicate Strong Interest
Send New Info
Counselor Contact
Merit Aid
More Money at “Up & Coming” vs “Top of Heap”
Automatic Scholarships
No Merit vs Merit Aid
Limit Loans
Duke
• No more than $5000/year in loans
MIT
• < $75,000, loan free
• Average package $30,000
University of Pennsylvania
• No Loan
• Generous Need Definition
Apply To Range Of Schools
Safety
50/50
Reach
Honors College at State Schools
Common Application
How Parents Can Help
Research
Plan Visits
Discuss Financial Expectation
Be Realistic
Be A Cheerleader
Powerpoint
and
Video Available
On CHS Website