CHABOT COLLEGE
Curriculum Committee Minutes
November 23, 2004
Members Present:
Desmond Chun, Rudolph Cockerham, Cindy Hicks, Gayle Hunt, Bill McDonald,
Lupe Ortiz, Patricia Shannon
Ex-Officio
Members Present:
Edna Danaher, Denise Noldon, Ron Taylor
Guests:
Carolyn Arnold, Dmitriy Kalyagin, Gaila Moore, Judi Odom, Nolly Ruiz
I.
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order without a quorum at 2:08 by committee chair Cindy
Hicks.
II.
Business/Computer Application Systems/Computer Science Proposals
COMPUTER APPLICATION SYSTEMS
Dean’s Checklist: These courses do transfer. Correct Baccalaureate-level column to
read “Yes.”
CAS 8, Computer Literacy, 3 units
Removes cross listing; removes advisory statement. Gaila Moore said that the cross
listing was being removed because Computer Science was not going to offer
Computer Science 8 any longer. She asked how long the statement “May not receive
credit if Computer Science 8 has been completed.” should remain on the outline.
Consensus is that it should remain for 2-3 years, minimum. Before ultimately
removing the statement, the department should consult with Counseling.
Needed:
• Remove the check by “Title Change” on the Rationale page.
CAS 54A, Microsoft Excel I, 3 units
Description change; request to offer in Distance Education. The DECSC
recommends approval, but the signed tracking form has not been received.
Needed:
• Signed DE Tracking Form. (DECSC will forward this to Cindy Hicks who will
forward it to Academic Services.)
CAS 55, Microsoft Office Integration, 3 units
Title change from Microsoft Office Integration and Advanced Topics. Unit change
from 4 to 3. The lecture is being reduced to 2 hours, and the laboratory to 2 hours
with an expected additional hour of homework required.
Prerequisites are being changed to CAS 54A and CAS 88A. The committee
approved the prerequisites.
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CAS 84, Designing Business Graphics, 3 units
New course; 2 hours lecture, and 2 hours laboratory with an expected additional hour
of homework required.
Regarding the Advisory Content Review Form, Bill McDonald commented on the
number of items rated as #1. Judi Odom replied that she will reduce some of the
numbers to #2.
Request to offer in Distance Education. The DECSC has not ruled on this request.
Cindy will follow up.
Articulation Form #2 submitted and approved.
Needed:
• Revised Advisory Content Review Form
• Signed DE Tracking Form.
AS Degree, Software Specialist
Changed from AA Degree, Computer Software Applications. Reduces core units
from 38-41 to 30-33. Various course substitutions and deletions were made to
accommodate changes in curriculum.
Needed:
Add Business 95/96 as alternatives to Work Experience 95/96.
There was discussion on whether the outlines for Business 95/96 and Work
Experience 95/96 are the same. They vary slightly. Cindy asked Dmitriy to be sure
that the outlines are aligned for cross listing and brought forward in the next
curriculum cycle.
AS Degree, Administrative Assistant
Reduces core units from 35-38 to 32-35. Various course substitutions and deletions
were made to accommodate changes in curriculum.
Needed:
Add Business 95/96 as alternatives to Work Experience 95/96.
Certificate of Achievement, Administrative Assistant
Reduces core units from 27-28 to 21. Various course substitutions and deletions
were made to accommodate changes in curriculum. No changes suggested.
Certificate of Completion, Office Technology
Certificate of Achievement, Office Technology
Deletes Computer Science 8. No changes suggested.
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Certificate of Achievement, Software Specialist
Title changed from Computer Software Applications. Increases units from 23 to
24-25. Various course substitutions and deletions were made to accommodate
changes in curriculum.
Certificate of Achievement, Business Graphics
New certificate. Needs labor market research in order to present to state for approval.
Will be listed in the catalog as “Pending State Approval.” It was noted that
Photography 31A, 31B, 32A, and 32B are cross-listed courses. This needs to be
reflected on the program page.
Needed:
Add “Pending State Approval” to the program title.
Add “or Architecture 31A, or Interior Design 31A,” etc., to the cross-listed
courses.
AA Degree, Computer Programming
Request to eliminate program; remove from the catalog.
BUSINESS
It was noted that none of the degrees and certificates that are being revised have been
submitted to the state for approval. They will be submitted in their revised form.
Business 1A, Principles of Accounting I, 4 units
Dmitriy reported that the Expected Outcomes and Typical Assignments sections will
be rewritten. Denise stated that to be eligible for articulation to San Francisco State
the outline needs some additional content items. Cindy asked that the revised outline
be brought back to the committee on December 14.
Request to offer in DE format. The DECSC will approve the request at their next
meeting and send the signed tracking form to Cindy.
Needed:
• Signed DE Tracking Form.
Business 6, Introduction to Quickbooks Accounting I, 1 unit
Cindy commented on the lack of consultation with LPC. She stated that it is good
practice to let them know what we are doing even though they are not teaching the
course or have a separate rubric.
Articulation Form #2 submitted and approved.
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AS, Business (Emphasis in Management)S
Revises required courses. Reduces number of units from 40-43. Discussion resulted
in the recommendation that the option should be listed as a minimum of 6 units,
which makes the new core total 37-38 units.
Needed:
• Change Option* to 6 units.
• Correct Total to 37-38.
• Rewrite Option footnote to read “*Select a minimum of 6 units from the
following:”
• Add Business 95/96 to the list of options.
AS, Business (International Business)
Discussion on whether a student can get this degree in addition to the AS, Business
(Emphasis in Marketing) by taking just one additional course. As they are listed,
there are four degrees for which this is true. Dmitriy stated that the intention was to
have one degree in Business with the emphasis printed on the diploma.
Edna Danaher explained that this is technically possible to accomplish, but it must be
stated clearly in the catalog that only one Business degree will be awarded.
Cindy asked Dmitriy to rewrite the program page to include all areas of emphasis
(Management, International Business, Marketing, and General Business) and to
include a statement that only one degree will be awarded, with one area of emphasis
to be listed on the diploma. She asked that the new program page be brought back to
the committee on December 14.
Needed:
• Change Option* to 6 units.
• Correct Total to 37-38.
• Rewrite Option footnote to read “*Select a minimum of 6 units from the
following:”
• Add Business 95/96 to the list of options.
• Rewrite Business Program page per the discussion above.
AS, Accounting
Adds Business 15 as an option. This will be submitted as a non-substantive change.
Transfer Program and AA Degree, Business Administration
Discussion on putting a “Transfer Program” in the catalog; consensus was that it
must be made clear that the sequence is written for a specific school.
Needed:
The last paragraph of the program page should read, “This transfer program is
written…”
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AS, Retail Management
New. No changes suggested.
Certificate of Completion, Management
Revises course sequence. It was noted that at 18-20 units the course has too many
units to qualify as a Certificate of Completion. To remedy the situation, it was
suggested that the options be changed to “a minimum of 6 units.”
Needed:
• Change Option* to 6 units.
Correct Total to 18-19.
Rewrite Option footnote to read “*Select a minimum of 6 units from the
following:”
Add Work Experience 95/96 to options.
Certificate of Achievement, Retail Management
Request to delete CSCI 8 from the list of required courses due to changes in the CSCI
curriculum packet.
Dmitriy stated that gathering our own data for approval by the state (for this
certificate and the AS degree) may be comparatively easy because the Western
Association of Food Chains has done research.
Certificate of Achievement, Accounting Technician
Revises certificate to better align with the AS degree. No changes suggested.
Certificate of Achievement, Small Business Management
New.
Needed:
• Change Option* to 6 units.
Correct Total to 17.
Rewrite Option footnote to read “*Select a minimum of 6 units from the
following:”
Add Work Experience 95/96 to options.
Nolly Ruiz asked if the Curriculum Committee determines whether a program is
feasible. Cindy replied that the committee relies on the discipline and the dean to
provide feasibility information so the committee can affirm feasibility. The
discipline and the dean should have done that research before sending the proposal to
the committee and should note feasibility questions on the Statement of Rationale.
COMPUTER SCIENCE
The Computer Science packet as presented does not remove any courses from the
catalog, only programs. It was noted that a number of deletions and changes were
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made to Computer Application Systems programs due to the belief that certain
courses, particularly CSCI 8, were being deleted. Ron Taylor will check to see
whether any courses are being deleted. If they are not, CAS program pages will need
to be adjusted.
The Computer Science discipline requests the removal of the following programs
from the catalog:
AA/AS, Linux Administration and Web Site Management
AA/AS, Linux Systems Programming
Certificate of Achievement, Linux Systems Administration Specialist
Certificate of Achievement, Linux Systems Programming Specialist
Certificate of Achievement, Oracle/SQL, SQL Server Specialist
Certificate of Achievement, Web Site Development Specialist
Certificate of Completion, Microsoft Access/SQL Database Specialist
III.
Approval of Minutes of November 16, 2004
A quorum having been achieved, it was MSC (Chun/Ortiz) that the minutes of
November 16, 2004, be approved as presented.
IV.
Changes to Nursing Program Admissions
Cindy Hicks reported that the Nursing Program has changed its enrollment selection
criteria. She added that if this is a prerequisite change, Title 5 requires that it be a
Curriculum Committee process. The committee is charged with determining whether
there is a challenge mechanism in place and that there is not a disproportionate impact on
certain groups of students. Carolyn Arnold stated that she regards the selection criteria as
essentially prerequisites and added that she does not see the new process as impacting
any group over another. Ron Taylor added that there is a difference between a
prerequisite and a limitation on enrollment.
Carolyn described how the research was done. Ten years ago she and the Nursing
discipline did research on the GPAs required for admission. This year they added a
formula that combined the research variables. The major change is in the calculation
paragraph of the admissions criteria. The new admissions process is based on the new
formula. Bill McDonald expressed a concern that students will alter their study habits to
meet the new criteria, to the detriment of their overall studies.
Anyone from the pool established by the formula should be able to succeed in the
program; students are picked randomly from the pool. There was also discussion on
giving priority to district candidates and how alternates are chosen. Openings that come
about by attrition are filled from the alternate pool. It is hoped that the new process will
lessen the attrition rate.
Cindy stated that because changes are being implemented prior to Curriculum scrutiny
and prior to publication of the changes in the catalog, we will be making an exception to
our policy if we approve implementation. We are considering approval because the
Nursing Program cannot go through another three years allowing the numbers of failures
that now occur.
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Gayle Hunt asked if there is any possibility that students will sue because “they didn’t
know.” Nancy Cowan replied that they are trying to minimize that possibility by
honoring the old criteria along with the new for one year.
At 4:00 it was MSC (McDonald/Ortiz) to extend the meeting by 10 minutes.
Discussion ensued on whether a course or program must appear in the catalog before it
can be offered. Ron said that it is not mandated. All that is required is reasonable
advertisement. Cindy replied that the committee’s policy has been for many years to
implement after the change has appeared in the catalog. Consensus was that the
committee is willing to acquiesce in this case, but we would prefer not to be forced to act
after the fact again. Cindy asked that the Nursing discipline please keep the committee
informed. She added that she appreciates the pressure the discipline is under. Nancy said
that the last time changes were made they did not come before the committee, and the
discipline did not realize it was necessary. Any slight to the committee was
unintentional. Cindy acknowledged that the policy regarding when Title 5 applies to
such decisions and when not has been unclear. She thanked Nancy and Carolyn for
coming to the meeting.
V.
History 5 and American Cultures proposal
Tabled
VI.
Good of the Order
None
VII.
VIII.
Next meeting: December 7, 2004: Applied Health and Engineering; Math 32, 33; new
Physics sequence. (Please see December 7, 2004 agenda for changes made because of
time limitations.)
The meeting was adjourned at 4:10 p.m.
kk 12/3/04
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